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jams1234
04-06-2010, 10:14 PM
Mirror Story (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-News-Paddy-Kenny-has-been-called-a-money-grabbing-traitor-after-deserting-Sheffield-United-for-QPR-article448871.html)

Snippet at bottom about Sheff Utd. wanting Johnny Ertl as a replacement for Paddy Kenny. :D

Even if it is the Mirror, and Johnny isn't a keeper, I'm still pleading with him to stay.

Johnny :afro:

Excowboy
04-06-2010, 10:17 PM
Mirror Story (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-News-Paddy-Kenny-has-been-called-a-money-grabbing-traitor-after-deserting-Sheffield-United-for-QPR-article448871.html)

Snippet at bottom about Sheff Utd. wanting Johnny Ertl as a replacement for Paddy Kenny. :D

Even if it is the Mirror, and Johnny isn't a keeper, I'm still pleading with him to stay.

Johnny :afro:

"Stoke’s Steve Simonsen, and Crystal Palace’s Johannes Irtl are potential replacements"

Irtl? is this some amazing youth keeper we've been hiding?

Son of Ron
04-06-2010, 10:17 PM
Mirror Story (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-News-Paddy-Kenny-has-been-called-a-money-grabbing-traitor-after-deserting-Sheffield-United-for-QPR-article448871.html)

Snippet at bottom about Sheff Utd. wanting Johnny Ertl as a replacement for Paddy Kenny. :D

Even if it is the Mirror, and Johnny isn't a keeper, I'm still pleading with him to stay.

Johnny :afro:

that and the fact they spelt his name wrong ! But 20k a week, over a million a year for that fat druggy - hasn't football learnt its lesson yet.

Gollum
04-06-2010, 10:18 PM
Warnock's offering 20k a week salaries !

cockles
04-06-2010, 10:21 PM
I don't read the Merror.

Jolly Norwegian
04-06-2010, 10:23 PM
What does it take to become a journalist for these sorts of papers? I'm fairly certain I could come up with something a little bit more convincing.

Irtl the GK... :rolleyes:

keithywonder
04-06-2010, 10:57 PM
Billy bullsh*t comes to mind and also a very old story.Ertl will stay

hoskingt
04-06-2010, 11:12 PM
And they wonder where some of the tabloid's bad reputation comes from?

garronrav
04-06-2010, 11:19 PM
i just hope that the ivory coast can find another replacement goal keeper for drogba before their opening match against portugal:D

CPFC_DAVE77
04-06-2010, 11:32 PM
Mirror should be ashamed.

gold76
05-06-2010, 07:00 AM
As an aside though, I hope Johnny is persuaded to stay, alot of heart & determination,

cockles
05-06-2010, 07:59 AM
Getting Johnny Ertl on a long term contract is probably the biggest no brainer decision facing 2010. If he weren't already here - he's exactly the sort of player we'd want to sign right now.

Brett
05-06-2010, 09:32 AM
What do you expect from a Charlton rag?

rhynoeagle
05-06-2010, 09:36 AM
Why didnt we protest at the mirror HQ either ? They are a joke of a newspaper.

Shipsisourking
05-06-2010, 09:54 AM
School boy error there rhyn, the mirror is a comic not a newspaper :)

Woodford Eagle
05-06-2010, 09:54 AM
I think Jonny has said before he likes living in London, I can't see him moving to Sheffield (unless he couldn't get a london club).

deftones_eagle
05-06-2010, 10:28 AM
brilliant

Jim Cannon
05-06-2010, 10:31 AM
Billy bullsh*t comes to mind and also a very old story.Ertl will stay
He absolutely loves playing for us, deserves a new contract we need players like him proud to wear the shirt

EMLEY EAGLE
05-06-2010, 10:36 AM
Is this like the North Korea striker pretending to be a keeper?

Chickereagle
05-06-2010, 09:49 PM
Perhaps this story, published online on the 4th by a Yorkshire paper called The Star, is the source of the Mirror story:

Blades: Sheffield United eye Palace coup

Published Date: 04 June 2010
By James Shield

SHEFFIELD United are expected to hold further talks with Johannes Ertl, the versatile Austrian defender, shortly.

Kevin Blackwell's side, who privately concede goalkeeper Paddy Kenny is poised to join QPR, are understood to have identified the 28-year-old as a possible solution to their defensive problems.

Crystal Palace, where Ertl has spent the past two seasons, still hope to retain his services following a takeover by the CPFC 2010 consortium earlier this week.

The deal saved the Londoners from extinction but, with their new owners yet to appoint a successor for manager Paul Hart, United hope to exploit the uncertainty surrounding Selhurst Park by offering Ertl a long-term contract.

With Chris Morgan the only centre-half presently on Bramall Lane's books, Blackwell must sign a raft of re-inforcements before Championship competition resumes in August.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/blades/Blades-Sheffield-United-eye-Palace.6342677.jp?

Doesn't mean he'll go but perhaps lends some credence to their interest.

Gooders
05-06-2010, 10:52 PM
They can't count either - he's 27, not 28.

Ron Dogers
06-06-2010, 10:00 AM
They can't count either - he's 27, not 28.
We can't afford to lose our 29 year old beanpole goalscoring target man can we?

cockles
06-06-2010, 11:09 AM
I think Jonny has said before he likes living in London, I can't see him moving to Sheffield (unless he couldn't get a london club).

Another plus is that his experience of 2nd May in Sheffield gave him an idea of how dodgy it can be up there.

Most Austrians I know value quality of life above money, so I'm sure he'll be favouring our contract offers.

orp pisshead1
06-06-2010, 01:53 PM
What do you expect from a Charlton rag?
:eek: Wonderd what happend to the caravan club news.

orp pisshead1
06-06-2010, 01:57 PM
Agree with those saying give him a new contract, Very under valued player.

cpfck1llz
06-06-2010, 02:22 PM
i reckon they mean julian speroni

Palestinian
07-06-2010, 08:28 AM
Agree with those saying give him a new contract, Very under valued player.
the right answer - really proved his worth last season

CPFC_DAVE77
07-06-2010, 08:37 AM
501 members of the Johannes Ertl Appreciation Society! :lux: :lux:

eagle101
08-06-2010, 04:54 PM
"I believe Johnny Ertl has left and I imagine Darren Ambrose will leave still."

http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/sport/football/8208018.Lawrence__New_Palace_owners_must_act_fast/?

cpfcfan1
08-06-2010, 04:55 PM
Shame if true about Ertl :(

GodstoneEagle
08-06-2010, 04:56 PM
:(

LeeH
08-06-2010, 04:56 PM
he hasn't heard anything form the club so hopefully he's as in the dark as we are

pauldrulez
08-06-2010, 06:04 PM
I like Lawrence, but can he keep his gob shut.

Barbara4003
08-06-2010, 06:09 PM
I'm not sure I agree with Matt Lawrence giving that interview. It's not very positive.

And Johnny Ertl :sob: :sob:

gold76
08-06-2010, 06:11 PM
Johnny may not be the most technically gifted, but he makes up for it in determination & grit. I hope the rumours turn out to be false. With Hill looking likely to move & Derry possibly too, we currently lack a bit of bite.

Jordan's Jacket
08-06-2010, 06:16 PM
Not the time Matty, please keep your comments to yourself

Arron
08-06-2010, 06:20 PM
"I believe Johnny Ertl has left and I imagine Darren Ambrose will leave still."

http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/sport/football/8208018.Lawrence__New_Palace_owners_must_act_fast/?

:(
Really hope this isn't true. Maybe it's just Matty's way of trying to speed up the whole process of getting contracts sorted.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
08-06-2010, 06:22 PM
Let's hoe not :(

Barbara4003
08-06-2010, 06:22 PM
:(
Really hope this isn't true. Maybe it's just Matty's way of trying to speed up the whole process of getting contracts sorted.

The new owners only took control last night. What does he expect?

cpfck1llz
08-06-2010, 06:50 PM
if he wants to leave let him go but im happy for him to stay

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 07:27 PM
I'm not sure I agree with Matt Lawrence giving that interview. It's not very positive.

And Johnny Ertl :sob: :sob:

I will be extremely surprised if Ertl has already signed for someone else.

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 07:27 PM
501 members of the Johannes Ertl Appreciation Society! :lux: :lux:

514 :lux: :lux:

Barbara4003
08-06-2010, 07:28 PM
I will be extremely surprised if Ertl has already signed for someone else.

So will I. But it's worrying coming from Matt Lawrence, who you think would know about these things :(

Cuddles
08-06-2010, 07:43 PM
Maybe he got his info from this thread. Hope it isn't true.

pauldrulez
08-06-2010, 07:43 PM
http://fypfanzine.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/the-johnny-ert-fyp-blog-why-sheffield-wednesday-win-was-the-best-moment-of-my-career/

Johnny's blog for FYP about the Sheff Weds game and why he wanted to stay.

I have to be honest, I smiled and had a tear in my eye when I read bits of that.

JLY_CPFC
08-06-2010, 08:55 PM
great read hope he stays would be a key feature in the team next season

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 09:03 PM
great read hope he stays would be a key feature in the team next season

How's it a great read?

Joooe
08-06-2010, 09:15 PM
Gone. :(

Official Sheff Utd site - Blades bring in Ertl (http://www.sufc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10418~2066773,00.html)

bigend1
08-06-2010, 09:17 PM
shit

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
08-06-2010, 09:20 PM
Ah bollocks! :sob:

maestro
08-06-2010, 09:21 PM
Im sorry if I upset anyone but I think any player who leaves before new owners even have a chance to talk to them is a bit of a ****, all teh supporters are rallying around tryign to save the club but meanwhile several of the players seem to be sorting themselves out with transfers away.

thanks for nothing ertl

cpfcben
08-06-2010, 09:21 PM
Ertl the turtle has gone and I am absolutely gutted. Derry is next. No one will want Lawrence.

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 09:24 PM
What do I do with the facebook group now?

eagle101
08-06-2010, 09:25 PM
:( :sob:

pauldrulez
08-06-2010, 09:31 PM
Oh, wankers.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
08-06-2010, 09:31 PM
What do I do with the facebook group now?

Agree a few with a Sheffield United fan?

eagles #1
08-06-2010, 09:33 PM
Quite suprised....He seemed to really like it here.

pauldrulez
08-06-2010, 09:34 PM
Too add to my previous reaction.

If we lose Dezza and Butts. We are left with Clyne to play RB and N'Diaye as the defensive midfielder. I'm pretty sure there is no-one else left in the squad to play there. Bearing in mind, we've lost Comley there as well. And I wont even look at Left Back where we have erm, no-one.

Lets hope there are some decent cheap buys and loans we can use. This team is in for a re-build.

RUSSELL
08-06-2010, 09:38 PM
I hope that this is a CPFC2010 decision.

RUSSELL
08-06-2010, 09:38 PM
A bit gutted though...I liked him.

cockles
08-06-2010, 09:42 PM
Big loss :( :( :(

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 09:43 PM
I hope that this is a CPFC2010 decision.

It won't have been.

RUSSELL
08-06-2010, 09:44 PM
It won't have been.

How do you know? It was part of their deal to buy the club.

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 09:47 PM
How do you know? It was part of their deal to buy the club.

I don't know what you mean about part of their deal to buy the club? Johnny is out of contract, CPFC2010 haven't had time to offer contracts yet. In any case, if any player is out of contract little sway is held by the existing club. He was out of contract, and IMHO would have agreed this deal a few days ago, before we were even bought out.

SpikeyMatt
08-06-2010, 09:48 PM
:(

You can take your signature off now, Dave.

RUSSELL
08-06-2010, 09:49 PM
I don't know what you mean about part of their deal to buy the club? Johnny is out of contract, CPFC2010 haven't had time to offer contracts yet. In any case, if any player is out of contract little sway is held by the existing club. He was out of contract, and IMHO would have agreed this deal a few days ago, before we were even bought out.

Fair enough, didn't know he was out of contract.

jams1234
08-06-2010, 09:49 PM
Massive shame, big loss.

Reckon Pembo advised it.

Psychokiller
08-06-2010, 09:50 PM
He was ok, a trier who mucked in when it was needed and had personality but let's face it, ability wise he was nothing special whatsoever.

And I don't understand why he's gone to a club that will be changing managers within two months of the season starting anyway?

Son of Ron
08-06-2010, 09:51 PM
http://fypfanzine.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/the-johnny-ert-fyp-blog-why-sheffield-wednesday-win-was-the-best-moment-of-my-career/

Johnny's blog for FYP about the Sheff Weds game and why he wanted to stay.

I have to be honest, I smiled and had a tear in my eye when I read bits of that.

the lying Austrian git !!

sure of a good reception when he comes back with the Blades, but unhappy that he's gone. Nearest we had to an Aki replacement for a while - hopefully CPFC2010 knew about the departure and maybe even have someone lined up to replace him ?!

Barbara4003
08-06-2010, 09:51 PM
Glad I got my shirt when I did :(

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 09:51 PM
:(

You can take your signature off now, Dave.

Done.

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 09:52 PM
Glad I got my shirt when I did :(

I thought that, I must say I am disappointed in him.

HRS
08-06-2010, 09:54 PM
Disappointing considering our squad position and he suited our system well but in all honesty hes not much better or worse than anybody else at our level. Shame though, good character to have about the place.

Barbara4003
08-06-2010, 09:57 PM
I thought that, I must say I am disappointed in him.

Me too.

But it proves the point that you can't take anything any of them say too seriously. And usually, the more they go on about loving Palace and don't want to leave, the more it means they are on their way.

When will we ever learn? :(

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 09:57 PM
He was ok, a trier who mucked in when it was needed and had personality but let's face it, ability wise he was nothing special whatsoever.

And I don't understand why he's gone to a club that will be changing managers within two months of the season starting anyway?

Your right in that he is not fantastic, but he really did seem to represent what we all felt on the terraces. He was like the fan in all of us. Not great but would die on the pitch if need be. I have far more time for a player of lesser ability but 100%, than a John Oster with bags of technical ability but couldn't give a shit.

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 09:59 PM
Me too.

But it proves the point that you can't take anything any of them say too seriously. And usually, the more they go on about loving Palace and don't want to leave, the more it means they are on their way.

When will we ever learn? :(

Your right, Barbara.

Dougie is the only one we can trust!

I just wonder if when the buy out was announced, whether Johnny suddenly thought '****, I signed for Sheff Utd yesterday..."

jb888
08-06-2010, 09:59 PM
Really disappointed but I wish him well. A player that reallystepped up to the plate during the season we needed him to most.

Good luck Johnny. :sob:

Halfwayline
08-06-2010, 09:59 PM
Good luck. Thanks for everything.

jb888
08-06-2010, 10:00 PM
Your right in that he is not fantastic, but he really did seem to represent what we all felt on the terraces. He was like the fan in all of us. Not great but would die on the pitch if need be. I have far more time for a player of lesser ability but 100%, than a John Oster with bags of technical ability but couldn't give a shit.
Never was a truer word spoken.

Barbara4003
08-06-2010, 10:02 PM
Your right, Barbara.

Dougie is the only one we can trust!

I just wonder if when the buy out was announced, whether Johnny suddenly thought '****, I signed for Sheff Utd yesterday..."

Yep - Dougie is different altogether. Nobody compares to Dougie :)

The Gerry Queen
08-06-2010, 10:02 PM
Oh well. I liked his spirit and guts. Abilitywise he won't be hard to replace but he was good to have around apparantly.

Good luck Johhny

Psychokiller
08-06-2010, 10:03 PM
Of course it's quite possible that the person lined up to take over as manager told him he didn't have a future here.....

Godstone Eagle
08-06-2010, 10:04 PM
Thanks Johnny for your fantastic efforts last season, wish you all the best:)

CPFC_DAVE77
08-06-2010, 10:06 PM
Of course it's quite possible that the person lined up to take over as manager told him he didn't have a future here.....

Very much doubt it.

dannyboy1807
08-06-2010, 10:15 PM
Cheers Johnny all the best

Sussex Eagle
08-06-2010, 10:19 PM
Disappointed to see him go, but to be honest, he'd have been taking a massive risk turning that move down - best of luck to you Johnny, you'll be remembered.

RUSSELL
08-06-2010, 10:26 PM
Of course it's quite possible that the person lined up to take over as manager told him he didn't have a future here.....

This is what I'm hoping.

beef
08-06-2010, 10:28 PM
All the best to him. Brutal honesty time: he's not good enough.

eagle_ali9
08-06-2010, 10:31 PM
Very sad news. Good luck johnny.

Oh south london
08-06-2010, 10:42 PM
Not too bothered at all. Ertl is a great guy but a limited footballer. Suprised Sheff U have gone for him. Good luck in the future sure he will get a great reception.

CT_Palace
08-06-2010, 10:46 PM
Put in a lot of effort, especially towards the end of the season, but I always had down as a bit of a donkey.
Thanks all the same Johnny and good luck with the new club.

Jammyknees
08-06-2010, 11:06 PM
put in a couple of good shifts towards the end of the season but lets be fair for most of his career at the club you'd struggle to notice if he was on the pitch. And as for all this loyality twaddle I think someone nailed it on the head when they asked if we will ever learn. WE the fans love this club not the players who prattle on about what the club 'means to them' when in reality the wage slip at the end of the month is all that matters

Whyteleafe_Sage
08-06-2010, 11:16 PM
Very disappointed that a player who so publicly professes how happy he is at Palace should choose to leave just as the club has turned the corner. I just hope that his decision isn't indicative of a general feeling in the squad that last season would be as good as it gets...

He does have his limitations as a player and should, in all honesty, be relatively easy to replace, but his timing stinks of an agent behind the scenes with too much control over his client...

thehalifaxman
09-06-2010, 12:12 AM
Hero of Hilsborough never to be forgotten. Good luck Johnny you will be sorely missed. You are still one of us

Martin H
09-06-2010, 01:32 AM
To be fair if he read the BBS a couple of times over the past week I think he could hardly be blamed for thinking it was all over and in the absence of any formal communication and an offer - likely with a time limit on it - plus a familiar face from last year up there - how bad is it that he accepted the offer.

I think its a shame but to be honest its a fallout of being saved and for me that is so huge that if this is the cost - I am cool with it. Good luck Jonny

RDSdaEAGLE
09-06-2010, 01:52 AM
FYP's take on it - HERE (http://fypfanzine.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/thanks-and-farewell-johnny-ertl/)

RDSdaEAGLE
09-06-2010, 01:54 AM
Not too bothered at all. Ertl is a great guy but a limited footballer. Suprised Sheff U have gone for him. Good luck in the future sure he will get a great reception.

Being a limited footballer is great if what said player does do contributes to the team in a positive way.

Ertl may well have been a limited player, but what he did, he did very well for us.

I realise that it's a disappointing piece of news. We will try and get a comment from him about it. No promises.

FromSelhurst
09-06-2010, 05:15 AM
is there a fee?

real shame, spoke to him at the service station on the way back from sheffield and he said this was the best season in his career.

jjeagle
09-06-2010, 05:20 AM
He was ok, a trier who mucked in when it was needed and had personality but let's face it, ability wise he was nothing special whatsoever

This.

Jordan's Jacket
09-06-2010, 05:50 AM
Nice guy, but really not very good.

cpfcben
09-06-2010, 06:07 AM
Some of the comments here are a bit harsh. I think he played the holding midfield role excellently

gold76
09-06-2010, 06:16 AM
will be missed for his heart, desire & passion.

Any ideas for a muck & bullets type replacement?

As an aside, I know we have N'Diaye (who I don't think is ready for a 40+ game stint this season) But hasn't Wynter player a few game as holding DM too?

MasterYoda
09-06-2010, 06:28 AM
disappointed with this and in him. I genuinely believed he wanted to stay here for a while and can't imagine CPFC2010 wouldn't have wanted to keep him.

Oh well - you can't dwell on it. He turned out to be just another mercenary player.

Stigma
09-06-2010, 06:28 AM
Sad news:(

kettle
09-06-2010, 06:32 AM
did OK, nothing special, am sad he left, but would be more worried if Ambrose left. As for the comments about him leaving when he should have waited, if I was out of contract with so much uncertainty surrounding my clubs future, I would have an agent looking at clubs for me as soon as the season ended.

Cuddles
09-06-2010, 06:35 AM
Shame. One day I will learn not to believe the stock responses footballers give to leading questions about their intentions :rolleyes:

cockles
09-06-2010, 07:18 AM
Shame. One day I will learn not to believe the stock responses footballers give to leading questions about their intentions :rolleyes:

...and if he'd been given a deadline by Sheff Utd to accept the offer - not knowing what or if he'd be offered anything by Palace....

This contract will be the main earnings of his career - would you have taken the risk with it in that situation?

This is Palace's loss, make no mistake. There has been some pretty disrespectful comments about his ability above in this thread. So many people rate Shaun Derry - yet Ertl did more to keep us up in the last couple of months. John Pemberton clearly saw this....

Psychokiller
09-06-2010, 07:22 AM
I suppose him going will give N'Diaye a chance to shine, and if he plays like he did when he came on at Hillsborough I won't be complaining..

Payney
09-06-2010, 07:26 AM
Did well for us last couple of months of the season but always looked a limited player through my eyes. Good luck to him though.

Cuddles
09-06-2010, 07:27 AM
...and if he'd been given a deadline by Sheff Utd to accept the offer - not knowing what or if he'd be offered anything by Palace....

This contract will be the main earnings of his career - would you have taken the risk with it in that situation?

This is Palace's loss, make no mistake. There has been some pretty disrespectful comments about his ability above in this thread. So many people rate Shaun Derry - yet Ertl did more to keep us up in the last couple of months. John Pemberton clearly saw this....

I don't begrudge any player for doing what's best for himself. I get annoyed with myself for actually believing they'll stay put no matter what!

spt1978
09-06-2010, 07:33 AM
Good guy, average football, wage bill slightly lower. Not fussed to be honest.

cockles
09-06-2010, 07:35 AM
I don't begrudge any player for doing what's best for himself. I get annoyed with myself for actually believing they'll stay put no matter what!

This is true. Again, I myself have also said many things meaning them at the time - but then gone back on them when reality struck.

Wake up call for the Four Horsemen but I think we've out missed on what should have been our highest proirity of the out of contract players. Ertl is at the prime of his career - on a free and would have been happy to stay.

Absolution
09-06-2010, 07:44 AM
Just want to say thank you to Johnny Ertl, he stuck at it and was very important to us in the latter stages of the season, especially on our final match at Wednesday.

Good luck at Sheff United, but I don't think it'll ever be the same as your first English club!

adrenalin john
09-06-2010, 07:47 AM
Am very sad to see him go. I liked Ertl and he seemd to love it here.

I am also not sure he has made the right decision, he improved greatly at Palace, and his stock is high. He is the type of player to thrive on camaraderie and he loved living in London.

Sheffield is pleasant in places but let's be honest it is not a cosmopolitan world city, it is an overgrown village split in two - parochial in other words.

If he carries on improving at the same rate he will be a big loss, however it really wouldn't surprise me to see him go backwards and fade away.

I can understand he may well be getting financial security but am not convinced he has made the right move. I feel sure he would have kicked on for Palace, a couple of bad games for Sheff U and he will find it very different up there.

Will get a great cheer from me when he returns to Palace, but equally I would be unsurprised to see him not in their starting line up.

Baldy
09-06-2010, 07:51 AM
'Legend'
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :S: :S:

CPFC_DAVE77
09-06-2010, 08:05 AM
He emailed me this morning, will put it up later but can't access emails at work. Just said it's true he has moved on, hardest decision of his life and it's the best time he has had in his career. Appreciates all the support and will send some more words later. Like I said I can't view my emails at work but will post it up later with anything else if he sends more words along (if anyone even cares now!)

Eddie McGoldrick's tash
09-06-2010, 08:11 AM
Definitely a shame - would be useful member of our squad.

But more important things have happened to us lately, this is just an unfortnate consequence of our financial mess. Let's hope there aren't too many more.

But... we have a club

CPFC_DAVE77
09-06-2010, 08:11 AM
Oh So for some reason today private emails are available! Anyway, for what it's worth from Ertl:

Hey Dave!!!

Thank you very much for your lines.
I wanna say thank you to all my friends and supporters at Palace. It has been the best time in my football career. Its true that i moved on. It was the toughest decision in my career and i wanna right some lines today. I am gonna send it to you later.

Thanks for your effort and support.

Johnny

Like I said will chuck the other bit up if and when he sends anything.

Bobsta
09-06-2010, 08:13 AM
Not fussed.

Woosie
09-06-2010, 08:15 AM
I'm gutted at this tbh. I thought Ertl was a good player who mucked in and did a lot of things that went unnoticed. Had great passion, and was a good guy. Wish he had stayed :(

judge
09-06-2010, 08:15 AM
So has Pembo fecked off to Sheff Utd and giving Blackwell the run down on which Palace players to nick? If so feck him and the horse he road in on, legend my ar5e!!

Sorry to see Johnny go as I believe he was our replacement for Derry as the holding midfielder, reckoned on N'Diaye needing another year in the squad.

I can understand the uncertainty posed by being out of contract and the club going through what its going through but players are employees and professionals seeking work, how many of us would sit and wait for the renewal of a contract after it has ended and ignore offers of work elsewhere.

I don't believe any player in the same situation isn't putting their agents to work on getting re-employed somewhere irrespective of the sound bites offered by the players themselves.

For all their 'loyalty' the need for their agents to earn mean they will always be seeking work.

Sorry you've gone Johnny, I wish you well in your new club but I hope you have a mare and we murder your lot every time we play you.

Glazier69
09-06-2010, 08:19 AM
All heart, little ability. Will be remembered as playing his part last season - especially the headed goal v Villa and his "DEZZZAAAA" celebration captured on TV at Hillsborough.
Many more players in our squad I'm more worried about losing.
Good luck to him.

foxinthebox
09-06-2010, 08:20 AM
he was out of contract. he had every right to move and sort his familys future out. probably deal done before the takeover or on its way and the takeover was dragging. fair play, he will have made the decision based on whats right for his family and him, that comes first not any football club. all that without having to mention what a limited player he wasn't going to progress into something irreplaceable. there are other squad members that are more valuable to the team and its vital we get them sorted first, our captain for one.

thanks jonny, all the best at sheff utd, youre still a hero in my eyes for the sheffield wednesday game

kolinkins
09-06-2010, 08:22 AM
Liked Ertl and think he did a very good, and much needed job for us. He'll be a miss.

However, his sort of player is also readily replaceable, even on a free. Onwards and upwards.

Palestinian
09-06-2010, 08:22 AM
All heart, little ability. Will be remembered as playing his part last season - especially the headed goal v Villa and his "DEZZZAAAA" celebration captured on TV at Hillsborough.
Many more players in our squad I'm more worried about losing.
Good luck to him.
Good summary
Sad to see him go, he was one of my favourite players last season - he always looked as though his performance and the result really mattered to him; that passion and commitment will be really ahrd to replace, his ability won't be though.
Thanks for your efforts here Jonny

cross_eyed_ed
09-06-2010, 08:26 AM
Shame. Nice guy, and appeared to really like being at Palace. I don't blame him for seeking security in the face of uncertainty. Solid player who got better the more he played for us.

JamTheEagle
09-06-2010, 09:17 AM
Can't say he ever really amazed me, he did a job and is easy to replace. I am disappointed after reading his interviews, but I would rather he went and we are left with players who were willing to wait and see what happened - players that will hopefully be rewarded sooner rather than later.

the kooch
09-06-2010, 09:31 AM
Good. Now that Derry is also out of contract N'Diaye can get the chance he deserves.

Also interesting how he said all that about loving Palace but was first to get the f off.

Gooders
09-06-2010, 09:37 AM
Liked Ertl and think he did a very good, and much needed job for us. He'll be a miss.

However, his sort of player is also readily replaceable, even on a free. Onwards and upwards.


I was going to post just a "meh" but this ^^^, instead.

sw16girl
09-06-2010, 10:23 AM
Good. Now that Derry is also out of contract N'Diaye can get the chance he deserves.

Also interesting how he said all that about loving Palace but was first to get the f off.

Not the first - Carle already gone and I think other deals have been done but not announced - has Hill been announced yet?

I can't say I have much confidence that N'Diaye will turn out to be an acceptable replacement but therre are a lot of players out there and available and he was never outstanding. So sad but not the end of the world.

CPFC_DAVE77
09-06-2010, 10:28 AM
Not the first - Carle already gone and I think other deals have been done but not announced - has Hill been announced yet?

I can't say I have much confidence that N'Diaye will turn out to be an acceptable replacement but therre are a lot of players out there and available and he was never outstanding. So sad but not the end of the world.

SW is Hill 100% going?

rhynoeagle
09-06-2010, 10:30 AM
Not, to bothered to be honest. N'diaye is a far better player then he is. Thanks for the time spent at Palace though Johnny

unsensibleLiam
09-06-2010, 10:31 AM
Very disappointed to say the least. :( Ertl was one of my favourite players last year.

Psychokiller
09-06-2010, 10:32 AM
SW is Hill 100% going?
TBH I think we've had Clint's best years out of him. If he wants to go to the player's graveyard that is Loftus Road for one final big payday I don't begrudge him that at all as he's been a top player for us and is a fu cking smashing bloke. He'll be looking for a new club when Warnock gets sacked at Christmas anyway and will be able to return to the north west to play out his career.

adrenalin john
09-06-2010, 10:39 AM
Not the first - Carle already gone and I think other deals have been done but not announced - has Hill been announced yet?

.


Deals with out of contract players I can understand, but players in contract?

Who have those deals been done with at Palace and who authorized them?

adrenalin john
09-06-2010, 10:41 AM
TBH I think we've had Clint's best years out of him. If he wants to go to the player's graveyard that is Loftus Road for one final big payday I don't begrudge him that at all as he's been a top player for us and is a fu cking smashing bloke. He'll be looking for a new club when Warnock gets sacked at Christmas anyway and will be able to return to the north west to play out his career.

^
agree with this

I too hope he lands a final massive pay day. Adds steel but surely that is the one item QPR are not short of

Gooders
09-06-2010, 10:42 AM
Totally agree PK.

We need a new start. New owners, new manager on the way and a new first team squad.

The old stagers were great last season but they are just that - old. And expensive, some of them.

We've seen that we can't afford the sort of wages we've been paying to even mediocre players and that a different approach is needed.

I'd love us to be able to hang on to Ambrose and Danns but apart from those two, I'm not really going to lose any sleep about the others.

Season of struggle next year I reckon with a sprinkling of older heads and a plethora of youngsters. And the idea of it doesn't bother me one bit. :)

Ant.Palace
09-06-2010, 10:42 AM
Very disappointed to say the least. :( Ertl was one of my favourite players last year.


I feel the same. I feel a bit let down too, after all he said.

CPFC_DAVE77
09-06-2010, 10:42 AM
TBH I think we've had Clint's best years out of him. If he wants to go to the player's graveyard that is Loftus Road for one final big payday I don't begrudge him that at all as he's been a top player for us and is a fu cking smashing bloke. He'll be looking for a new club when Warnock gets sacked at Christmas anyway and will be able to return to the north west to play out his career.

I completely agree, I was just wondering, is it now definately, definte to those really ITK that he is gone?

kolinkins
09-06-2010, 10:43 AM
I'd love us to be able to hang on to Ambrose and Danns but apart from those two, I'm not really going to lose any sleep about the others.



speroni?

Ant.Palace
09-06-2010, 10:44 AM
Totally agree PK.

We need a new start. New owners, new manager on the way and a new first team squad.

The old stagers were great last season but they are just that - old. And expensive, some of them.

We've seen that we can't afford the sort of wages we've been paying to even mediocre players and that a different approach is needed.

I'd love us to be able to hang on to Ambrose and Danns but apart from those two, I'm not really going to lose any sleep about the others.

Season of struggle next year I reckon with a sprinkling of older heads and a plethora of youngsters. And the idea of it doesn't bother me one bit. :)

Speroni is the one we really need to keep.

Gooders
09-06-2010, 10:45 AM
speroni?

He's a given. :p

adrenalin john
09-06-2010, 10:45 AM
[QUOTE=Gooders]
I'd love us to be able to hang on to Ambrose and Danns but apart from those two, I'm not really going to lose any sleep about the others.

QUOTE]


You would be happy to lose, McCarthy, Clynne and Speroni :eek:

I sure as hell wouldn't - I would also like to keep Hills, Scannel, Andrew, Ndaiye and all our youth players

adrenalin john
09-06-2010, 10:53 AM
He's a given. :p


shoulder injury?

Asagaya_Eagle
09-06-2010, 10:56 AM
shoulder injury?

:)

GodstoneEagle
09-06-2010, 11:01 AM
Oh well. He will always be on of the admin boys held in high regard. Good luck turtle

Jordan's Jacket
09-06-2010, 11:02 AM
It would be nice to have a team of footballers for a change. Ertl, Hill and Lawrence cannot be questioned for effort and guts, but they are all limited in a technical sense. It would bring me great joy to see a future Palace team build from the back, through the midfield rather than desperate hoofing.

John1000
09-06-2010, 11:36 AM
Am I the only one who is quite pleased about this?

We have to cut our wage bill so we can start living within our means. I will therefore not be too disappointed if any players leave with the following exceptions:

Speroni
Clyne
McCarthy
Ambrose
Danns

Possibly Scannell (as his best years are ahead) and Derry (as we are unlikely to replace him with a free transfer of similar quality) should be added to that list.

Beyond this core, tough decisions need to be made. I would much rather see the likes of Ertl leave if it means we can afford to keep those above.

I too liked Ertl and his attitude, but (lets be honest) he was one of the least talented players in the squad.

Excowboy
09-06-2010, 11:55 AM
If Derry goes too, I think we'll definitely have to get a holding midfielder in. I like N'Diaye but he strikes me more as a box to box midfielder than someone who will consistently protect the back four. And if he's injured or suspended we haven't got Comley to come in anymore.

Stigma
09-06-2010, 11:57 AM
How high are Derry's wages? Do we know?

Palestinian
09-06-2010, 12:04 PM
Totally agree PK.

We need a new start. New owners, new manager on the way and a new first team squad.

The old stagers were great last season but they are just that - old. And expensive, some of them.

We've seen that we can't afford the sort of wages we've been paying to even mediocre players and that a different approach is needed.

I'd love us to be able to hang on to Ambrose and Danns but apart from those two, I'm not really going to lose any sleep about the others.

Season of struggle next year I reckon with a sprinkling of older heads and a plethora of youngsters. And the idea of it doesn't bother me one bit. :)
Excellent post
We have to have a different model for the future - that looks to youth through the Academy and to League 1 and below for purchases and frees
I would perhaps be willing to sacrifice either Danns or Amrose to keep Jules

webbo1990
09-06-2010, 12:08 PM
Am I the only one who is quite pleased about this?

We have to cut our wage bill so we can start living within our means. I will therefore not be too disappointed if any players leave with the following exceptions:

Speroni
Clyne
McCarthy
Ambrose
Danns

Possibly Scannell (as his best years are ahead) and Derry (as we are unlikely to replace him with a free transfer of similar quality) should be added to that list.

Beyond this core, tough decisions need to be made. I would much rather see the likes of Ertl leave if it means we can afford to keep those above.

I too liked Ertl and his attitude, but (lets be honest) he was one of the least talented players in the squad.
I like a lot of the recent posts, Jordans jacket makes a lot of sense. Ertl, nice fella as he is (i met him on the evening of the 2nd May in Patricks in Beckenham with Lawrence, Paddy & Derry too), but he, like Derry, is not a gifted footballer and has severe limits. We should be a bit pleased that a Championship rival has taken him on, to be honest.

This doesn't mean that I am not grateful of his efforts last season, though.

N'Diaye is an odd one, i'm not convinced of him in any position as yet. Super header for the goal away at Boro, but suspect when defending (too many fouls given away). He's young though so, like Scanell, can only improve. If we get him a consistent run in the team, in the same position, he might be a jewel.

eagle mart
09-06-2010, 12:09 PM
Wow, am surprised at some of the comments here. Technically - not brilliant, but he had a hell of a lot of heart, and guile. I thought he was our best player at Villa in what was a good team performance.

He was a massive part of the second half of the season, and I saw him as the ideal replacement for Derry.

I'm very disappointed he's gone.

PhyshtaMagishta
09-06-2010, 12:15 PM
Am I the only one who is quite pleased about this?



Possibly Scannell (as his best years are ahead) and Derry (as we are unlikely to replace him with a free transfer of similar quality) should be added to that list.



the only potential reason for getting rid of scannell is surely the transfer fee we might receive? he surely cannot be on very high wages? Thinking it must be a grand a week tops - would've expected it to be in the hundreds though?

I think he showed enough towards the end of the season to suggest (to me anyway) that if he gets a decent run in the time, he will improve, and hopefully become a lot more consistent... definitely should not be got rid of... we aint gonna pick up anyone better on his ages, unless its from our own academy

webbo1990
09-06-2010, 12:17 PM
Wow, am surprised at some of the comments here. Technically - not brilliant, but he had a hell of a lot of heart, and guile. I thought he was our best player at Villa in what was a good team performance.

He was a massive part of the second half of the season, and I saw him as the ideal replacement for Derry.

I'm very disappointed he's gone.
I didnt mean to slate him off the minute he left, but I did say the same stuff while he was with us. He wasn't a very good footballer with the ball at his feet, let's be honest. Most teams like a 'spoiler' and it seems we've lost the two that we had, so maybe N'Diaye can take over the mantle and we can bring in some useful ball players instead.

PhyshtaMagishta
09-06-2010, 12:20 PM
Wow, am surprised at some of the comments here. Technically - not brilliant, but he had a hell of a lot of heart, and guile. I thought he was our best player at Villa in what was a good team performance.

He was a massive part of the second half of the season, and I saw him as the ideal replacement for Derry.

I'm very disappointed he's gone.

agree... and definitely about the replacement for derry bit...

There were times last year when I think we really could've done with having one or the other... the both of them in Central midfield was a bit to much to bear at times!

Johnny running up to us against Watford and chucking his shirt in the crowd is in my top 5 moments of last year I think. Love him

Psychokiller
09-06-2010, 12:21 PM
Blackwell signing Ertl shows beyond any reasonable doubt that the fans are right - he IS just a shit Neil Warnock.

CPFC_DAVE77
09-06-2010, 12:24 PM
Blackwell signing Ertl shows beyond any reasonable doubt that the fans are right - he IS just a shit Neil Warnock.

In theory, seeing as they've both signed him aren't they as shit as each other?

gold76
09-06-2010, 12:25 PM
Blackwell will be gone by xmas if they are nowhere near the top 6

webbo1990
09-06-2010, 12:27 PM
Blackwell will be gone by xmas if they are nowhere near the top 6
They haven't got a GK now that fat boy has gone, have they? Fancy selling him after keeping him on-board all though his drug debacle! Doesn't make sense, unless he wanted to join NW at WhoPR.

Psychokiller
09-06-2010, 12:29 PM
In theory, seeing as they've both signed him aren't they as shit as each other?
No, otherwise Warnock would have taken him to Palace Reserves, sorry, QPR :clown:

CPFC_DAVE77
09-06-2010, 12:31 PM
No, otherwise Warnock would have taken him to Palace Reserves, sorry, QPR :clown:

Excellent point; I stand corrected!

Gooders
09-06-2010, 12:42 PM
You would be happy to lose, McCarthy, Clynne and Speroni :eek:



I should have elaborated a bit. I meant that of the players that have been linked with moves or might be angling for moves, I would like to hang on to Danns and Ambrose.

To be honest, it hasn't crossed my mind for one minute that Speroni, McCarthy or Clyne might leave - they're all under contract and we won't get proper offers for any of them, IMHO.

st albans
09-06-2010, 12:44 PM
i think hearts are ruling heads here

took him about a year to convince anyone he was actually a footballer. i've seen more ability at sunday league. looked like he knew what he was doing most of the time, and couldn't pass for shite

yes yes, he was a trier, worked hard and showed passion. a good player to have during admin when are backs were against the wall. now that things have been sorted we don't need players like this. easily replaced

surprised sheff utd went for him, even on a free

LiamCPFC
09-06-2010, 12:47 PM
They haven't got a GK now that fat boy has gone, have they? Fancy selling him after keeping him on-board all though his drug debacle! Doesn't make sense, unless he wanted to join NW at WhoPR.


QPR offered what it took to activate a release cause in his contract and he then agreed terms, nothing Sheff U could have done about it seeing as though he also turned down an improved contract with them!

Kirby
09-06-2010, 12:57 PM
Gutted :(

Come back Johnny! :sob:

FraserH
09-06-2010, 12:58 PM
i will get slated for this but I don't rate him much anyway.

good desire but lacks any skill or a first touch.

rhynoeagle
09-06-2010, 01:07 PM
Am I the only one who is quite pleased about this?

We have to cut our wage bill so we can start living within our means. I will therefore not be too disappointed if any players leave with the following exceptions:

Speroni
Clyne
McCarthy
Ambrose
Danns

Possibly Scannell (as his best years are ahead) and Derry (as we are unlikely to replace him with a free transfer of similar quality) should be added to that list.

Beyond this core, tough decisions need to be made. I would much rather see the likes of Ertl leave if it means we can afford to keep those above.

I too liked Ertl and his attitude, but (lets be honest) he was one of the least talented players in the squad.


I agree with all but Derry, I'm sure we will hang on to all in the list too :afro: :p

webbo1990
09-06-2010, 01:13 PM
QPR offered what it took to activate a release cause in his contract and he then agreed terms, nothing Sheff U could have done about it seeing as though he also turned down an improved contract with them!
I see. Cheers, I wasn't aware of the release clause.

Going off the subject again (sorry), i wonder if CP might soon be in the position to try for Billy Sharp. I think Donny and SU were at loggerheads over the price.

CPFC_DAVE77
09-06-2010, 01:16 PM
I see. Cheers, I wasn't aware of the release clause.

Going off the subject again (sorry), i wonder if CP might soon be in the position to try for Billy Sharp. I think Donny and SU were at loggerheads over the price.

Not going Donny last I heard. Definitely nearly secured a move elsehwere, not sure why but Derby is ringing a bell.. I'll check.

Just checked, dunno where I got Derby from, Donny bid rejected, linked with Leeds.

Absolution
09-06-2010, 01:32 PM
Not going Donny last I heard. Definitely nearly secured a move elsehwere, not sure why but Derby is ringing a bell.. I'll check.

Just checked, dunno where I got Derby from, Donny bid rejected, linked with Leeds.He has been a great piece of business for Sheff Utd, sold for 100k as a youngster and went on to score 50 odd goals for Scunthorpe.. then he was re-signed for 2mil??? Only to be loaned out again within 18 months.

No doubt he will leave for peanuts again.

Woosie
09-06-2010, 01:41 PM
i think hearts are ruling heads here

i've seen more ability at sunday league. looked like he knew what he was doing most of the time, and couldn't pass for shite

surprised sheff utd went for him, even on a free

Stop talking bollox.

doodledandy
09-06-2010, 02:19 PM
i think hearts are ruling heads here

took him about a year to convince anyone he was actually a footballer. i've seen more ability at sunday league. looked like he knew what he was doing most of the time, and couldn't pass for shite

yes yes, he was a trier, worked hard and showed passion. a good player to have during admin when are backs were against the wall. now that things have been sorted we don't need players like this. easily replaced

surprised sheff utd went for him, even on a free

Oh yes palace do need player like him!

The club is desperately short of playing staff as it is and to see a solid performer go for nothing, means that the club has to replace him with an equal or better one. That will cost precious money, which the club really doesn't need to be spending at this stage of the game.

Aaroncpfc
09-06-2010, 03:05 PM
I'm dissapointed in him that he's decided to move on, there's been so many examples of players who you could tell were on the verge of having a good season that was going to set themselves up well in the future, some stayed and have done (Danns 09/10, Watson 07/08) whilst others moved on and haven't really improved since (Borrowdale refusing to sign a new contract, Leigertwood chasing the Premiership etc.). I think the same applies with Johnny Ertl.

I wouldn't put him in the team ahead of Williamson, Montgomery etc. and he's not the creative type of player Sheffield United fans believe they're in desperate need of. I believe he's been signed as more of a versatile defender, and I don't believe that's his strongest posistion at all.

I wish him well as you could tell he cared, but with Derry moving I believe that if he had stayed he would have become an integral part of the team and i'm quite disspointed he hasn't done so.

hoskingt
09-06-2010, 04:51 PM
Gutting.

exiledeagle
09-06-2010, 05:21 PM
I can't say I have much confidence that N'Diaye will turn out to be an acceptable replacement but therre are a lot of players out there and available and he was never outstanding. So sad but not the end of the world.


Thought i was in minority about N`Diaye - if honest i just dont see anything in his game which is Championship level . He appears to lack concentration , loses possision too much and for such a tall guy , cant jump or head very well . I hear people saying he is like a young Vierra , but i just dont think he is good enough for this standard of football ( waiting to be shot down and yes i know he s still young )

pumaspalace
09-06-2010, 05:35 PM
I'll miss him :(

pumaspalace
09-06-2010, 05:37 PM
Was he released?

Ridcully
09-06-2010, 05:56 PM
This has spoiled my day :(

Gooders
09-06-2010, 05:57 PM
pumaspalace - he was out of contract.

Gooders
09-06-2010, 05:59 PM
Thought i was in minority about N`Diaye - if honest i just dont see anything in his game which is Championship level . He appears to lack concentration , loses possision too much and for such a tall guy , cant jump or head very well . I hear people saying he is like a young Vierra , but i just dont think he is good enough for this standard of football ( waiting to be shot down and yes i know he s still young )

He's erratic, I agree.

Watch him during the first couple of games next season and look out for what he does well, whilst ignoring the bambi-on-ice moments. You might be pleasantly surprised. :p

Banger
09-06-2010, 06:02 PM
Sad to see Johnny go. Put in the best performance I saw from a palace player all season during the cup game at Wolves - looked a quality centre half that day!!!

Good luck Johnny. Chin that **** Blackwell for me!

jams1234
09-06-2010, 06:08 PM
I think that N'Diaye has massive potential, but I don't think he will be our new defensive midfield anchor anytime soon. He was in his best role at Hillsborough, and changed the game for us.

The Omen
09-06-2010, 06:13 PM
Sad to lose one of the true fighters of last season, but I don't think he will be that hard to replace. Never struck me as being that good, but he fought his heart out for us and for that he has my total respect and best wishes.

Owngoal
09-06-2010, 06:18 PM
Wayne andrews Mark 5 - great heart but not particularly skilled. Bit like Calvin, both bust a gut trying but not ever going to set the world alight. Wish him good luck and will give him a clap when he comes back.

gold76
09-06-2010, 06:38 PM
N'Diaye is very raw & needs to be introduced gradually, I'd hate to see him ruined by the boo boys. If we had a bigger squad, I'd loan him out for a bit to a lower league side, unfortunately, we can't do this at the moment.

postman plod
09-06-2010, 06:48 PM
N'Diaye is very raw & needs to be introduced gradually, I'd hate to see him ruined by the boo boys. If we had a bigger squad, I'd loan him out for a bit to a lower league side, unfortunately, we can't do this at the moment.

I won't boo him, have you seen him?
He is Massive.:eek:

Woosie
09-06-2010, 06:58 PM
N'Diaye is very raw & needs to be introduced gradually, I'd hate to see him ruined by the boo boys. If we had a bigger squad, I'd loan him out for a bit to a lower league side, unfortunately, we can't do this at the moment.

N'Diaye is a poor footballer imo, however there are certainly aspects that he is talented in, and I don't think we should let him leave that's for sure. I think he would probably benefit from being loaned out, but obviously that's a luxury we're not going to be able to afford. I think like you say he is still raw, and will go either way and become a good championship player or fade into obscurity. But if he is going to make it he will have to start improving sooner rather than later.

rhynoeagle
09-06-2010, 07:03 PM
I think N'diaye has alot of Qualities, he can be a great passer, his ability to take men on is also very good and he can knock in a goal or two. I accept his presence in the air is poor for his size, and alot of you are forgetting his ages, hes a young lad and (Correct me if i'm wrong) his levels of English are very very low, I know people may say footballs spoke in one language but just imagen it must be quite tought for the lad.

He has great potential, when he came on away vs Derby he was instrumental, if the new gaffer can play him in bursts of 5,6,7,8 games in a row then rest him, he'll be a key to our attack in the league. I dont think as a defensive mid he'll be useful but if we are to keep Derry he and N'diaye would work a treat, like the 2 England CM one attack, one defend.

cpfcben
09-06-2010, 07:17 PM
I think that N'Diaye has massive potential, but I don't think he will be our new defensive midfield anchor anytime soon. He was in his best role at Hillsborough, and changed the game for us. n'diaye is an incredibly exciting talent. Certainly has the potential to play at a higher level . when I see ethu for fulham I already think we have a much better player.

Ruskin Old Boy
09-06-2010, 08:31 PM
He'll be an instant hero at Bramall Lane for being part of the Palace side that sent Wednesday down but I'd rather he had stayed. Hope he does well there - except against us!

Typical Palace
09-06-2010, 09:21 PM
I won't boo him, have you seen him?
He is Massive.:eek:
But he's got a cute chubby baby face

Typical Palace
09-06-2010, 09:22 PM
I think that N'Diaye has massive potential, but I don't think he will be our new defensive midfield anchor anytime soon. He was in his best role at Hillsborough, and changed the game for us.
He did the same at Derby.

PeterH
09-06-2010, 09:26 PM
Good luck to him.

Less on the wage bill, and perhaps makes an new manager's job easier.

cartwheel
09-06-2010, 09:45 PM
No great loss, tried hard but didn't have a clue with the ball.

However the alternative is N'Diaye...who basically is shit and I'm shocked how highly he is rated on here. Would like to see him develop on loan and get someone decent in the middle.

Jason
09-06-2010, 09:57 PM
I'm dissapointed in him that he's decided to move on, there's been so many examples of players who you could tell were on the verge of having a good season that was going to set themselves up well in the future, some stayed and have done (Danns 09/10, Watson 07/08) whilst others moved on and haven't really improved since (Borrowdale refusing to sign a new contract, Leigertwood chasing the Premiership etc.). I think the same applies with Johnny Ertl.

I wouldn't put him in the team ahead of Williamson, Montgomery etc. and he's not the creative type of player Sheffield United fans believe they're in desperate need of. I believe he's been signed as more of a versatile defender, and I don't believe that's his strongest posistion at all.

I wish him well as you could tell he cared, but with Derry moving I believe that if he had stayed he would have become an integral part of the team and i'm quite disspointed he hasn't done so.

I know where you're coming from, but I'm not sure it's as simple as that. As it stands today, Ertl is out of a job at the end of the Month. While we appear to be almost out of the woods, there's still the issue that we are without a manager. It may well take a few weeks to sort a new one (although the club wants to do it sooner), and the new manager might then decide that Ertl isn't his cup of tea, and is a wage best saved.

If that happens, the Shef Utd. offer may not still be open, as they may have "filled the vacancy" with someone else (indeed, they may have used that very threat to get a quick decision). In that scenario, there might not be another good offer for him and then what ?. He may well have felt that a guaranteed contract at a good club was something he couldn't turn down, especially that relatively speaking, he probably isn't a high earner.

I'm dissappointed for us that he's gone, but certainly not in any way dissappointed in him for doing what he thought was best for him. Thanks and good luck Mr. Ertl.

imashed
09-06-2010, 10:05 PM
another ex player to score against next season

David Amsalem
09-06-2010, 10:20 PM
Ertl was fantastic for us last season and will be fondly remembered for the part he played.

But if I'm honest, it's no big loss as long as we look to replace him.

Whilst he'll give 110% every game, he is a very limited player and is definitely replaceable.

At best, he is a squad player. He shouldn't command a regular spot looking to push on, he is the type of a player you play when trying to consolidate. We'll perhaps miss him as a squad player.

Neckinger Eagle
10-06-2010, 06:26 AM
Sad to hear this. Three players in one. Centre back, full back, midfielder. The right attitude. I hope for all the 'easy to replace' merchants here that our new owners have the budget to afford the player or players needed to fill such a void and our next manager had the acumen to spend wisely. A player of Ertl's versitlity and appetite is worth his weight in gold in this league

PalaceSince2004
10-06-2010, 06:43 AM
Was already a Palace legend and was becoming one my favourite Palace players. Shouldn't have left. Always seemed a Palace man true and true

Maiden Eagle
10-06-2010, 06:51 AM
So much for his supposed undying love for the Palace.
To be fair, he did well last season and always gave 100%, but I'm not sure he'll be a great asset for Sheff Utd

FraserH
10-06-2010, 07:56 AM
i dont see what all the fuss is about, yes he had a few good performances and showed great desire but he lacked anything else imo.

jhc
10-06-2010, 08:12 AM
Good luck to him.
To be fair there was every chance that the new manager(when he comes in) would not offer Ertl a new contract.
I don't blame him for taking up the opportunity to join Sheff Utd.
I wish him well - but replaceable IMO.

Will S
10-06-2010, 08:22 AM
Nothing like the potential of N'Diaye in the middle, a total liability in defence...

wedgetail
10-06-2010, 08:29 AM
I can see SU struggling next season if they think signing Ertl is a good move.

David
10-06-2010, 08:43 AM
Are people seriously upset we have lost Johnny Ertl?

He's a decent bloke but footballing wise he was playing a division higher than he should.

Palestinian
10-06-2010, 08:45 AM
N'Diaye is very raw & needs to be introduced gradually, I'd hate to see him ruined by the boo boys. If we had a bigger squad, I'd loan him out for a bit to a lower league side, unfortunately, we can't do this at the moment.
I think you are right - there were glimpses last season of a really good player. He needs a decent run of games with less pressure on him (smaller crowds) to build his confidence and reading of the game.
He is certainly not ready for 46 games in the Championship. We soemtimes expect too much of young players - remember he is only 20 (I think!)

Palestinian
10-06-2010, 08:50 AM
Are people seriously upset we have lost Johnny Ertl?

He's a decent bloke but footballing wise he was playing a division higher than he should.
I am sorry that we've lost him - while he isn't the most talented footballer, he plays with complete and utter commitment. He played no small part in ensuring that we still playing Championship football next season - we only stayed up by 2 points.
Yes he is replaceable and ideally we would aim for someone with a little more skill, but don't understate how important he was to us last campaign.

Psychokiller
10-06-2010, 08:56 AM
Sad to hear this. Three players in one. Centre back, full back, midfielder. The right attitude. I hope for all the 'easy to replace' merchants here that our new owners have the budget to afford the player or players needed to fill such a void and our next manager had the acumen to spend wisely. A player of Ertl's versitlity and appetite is worth his weight in gold in this league
You say that but Ertl never really convinced me at centre back or right back. He was a competent defensive midfielder but there are plenty of them around anyway.

FraserH
10-06-2010, 09:58 AM
by some peoples reactions on here you would have thought we had just lost a 30million pound player.

fioreuk
10-06-2010, 10:03 AM
Useful-Yes, Hardworking-Yes, Irreplacable-No.

It's a shame we did not hang on to him but there are plenty of comparable if not better players out there to take his place....

cockles
10-06-2010, 10:11 AM
It's a shame we did not hang on to him but there are plenty of comparable if not better players out there to take his place....

People keep saying this.

"plenty of comparable if not better players "

"easily replacable"

"loads of players for that role available"

I'd like to know who; and for what fee & on what wage?

Carl Fletcher wasn't up to Ertl's level - and he cost us how much....

Aaroncpfc
10-06-2010, 10:53 AM
Carl Fletcher wasn't up to Ertl's level - and he cost us how much....

Really? In his first season as captain I thought Fletcher was quite a useful addition. Just as - if not more - useful than Ertl has been for us. He started off very well, faded for a bit like any players does and then had a good second half of the season. That season our spine appeared to consist of Cort, Hudson, Fletcher and Morrison, even though we didn't push for promotion we still looked very comfortable in this division.

The only reason why I can think people may believe Fletcher wasn't up to the level of Ertl was that he wasn't considered an important player by Warnock, but even after losing the captaincy he still looked like a useful player when he was called upon. He was just unlucky that our tactics suited a midfielder more in the Sean Derry role more.

It's a shame he was at an underperforming Plymouth side last season, if he was at a team that finished above us i'm pretty sure your opinion would be very different of him.

magician
10-06-2010, 10:54 AM
would have preferred he stayed as i liked his no nonsense approach and his willingness to do the unglamourous things that need to be done to gain points in this division

Palestinian
10-06-2010, 11:28 AM
Really? In his first season as captain I thought Fletcher was quite a useful addition. Just as - if not more - useful than Ertl has been for us. He started off very well, faded for a bit like any players does and then had a good second half of the season. That season our spine appeared to consist of Cort, Hudson, Fletcher and Morrison, even though we didn't push for promotion we still looked very comfortable in this division.

The only reason why I can think people may believe Fletcher wasn't up to the level of Ertl was that he wasn't considered an important player by Warnock, but even after losing the captaincy he still looked like a useful player when he was called upon. He was just unlucky that our tactics suited a midfielder more in the Sean Derry role more.

It's a shame he was at an underperforming Plymouth side last season, if he was at a team that finished above us i'm pretty sure your opinion would be very different of him.
Agree with you - quite liked Fletcher when he was here
He always seemed to take ages to fully recover from injury, which were quite frequent when he was here. He was injured when Neil Warnock arrived and by the time he was fit Derry had already been brought in and had established himself.

herts_palace
10-06-2010, 11:36 AM
I am very sad to see him go. Towards the end of last season he seemed to epitomise all that was good about this club. An unsung hero, he could play anywhere and get at least 6.5 out of 10 and always give 100%. I won't forget how his second half performance transformed the game at Doncaster to rescue a crucial point for us when we had been outplayed in the first half. Also his celebration in the changing room st Sheffield Wednesday was something else. Good Luck Johnny Ertl you will always be fondly remembered at Selhurst Park.

Shipp Ahoy!
10-06-2010, 01:16 PM
What amazes me is when a player like Johnny leaves all of sudden its "didn't really convince me" or "didn't exactly do a fantastic job in the few games he got".

Sure lets forget the number of games this season in which we actually did/didn't win or draw when he was in the team (or not). Think he is a very good player and quite frankly don't think we are going to be able to look at too much better so for me this is a blow, especially as he seems like a top bloke in a mold similar (albeit a lot lesser) than Aki.

Neckinger Eagle
10-06-2010, 04:16 PM
You say that but Ertl never really convinced me at centre back or right back. He was a competent defensive midfielder but there are plenty of them around anyway.

Examples are required - preferrably realistic targets for Palace.

gold76
10-06-2010, 05:23 PM
Examples are required - preferrably realistic targets for Palace.

I can't think of one, Aki aside!

David
10-06-2010, 05:37 PM
I am sorry that we've lost him - while he isn't the most talented footballer, he plays with complete and utter commitment. He played no small part in ensuring that we still playing Championship football next season - we only stayed up by 2 points.
Yes he is replaceable and ideally we would aim for someone with a little more skill, but don't understate how important he was to us last campaign.

Dele Adebola and Ade Akinbiyi were two of the most hard working and committed players I have seen in the Red and Blue...........

DAS PHANTOM
10-06-2010, 09:54 PM
I am very sad to see him go. Towards the end of last season he seemed to epitomise all that was good about this club. An unsung hero, he could play anywhere and get at least 6.5 out of 10 and always give 100%. I won't forget how his second half performance transformed the game at Doncaster to rescue a crucial point for us when we had been outplayed in the first half. Also his celebration in the changing room st Sheffield Wednesday was something else. Good Luck Johnny Ertl you will always be fondly remembered at Selhurst Park.

Well said.

nutmeister
11-06-2010, 12:49 PM
I am sorry that we've lost him - while he isn't the most talented footballer, he plays with complete and utter commitment. He played no small part in ensuring that we still playing Championship football next season - we only stayed up by 2 points.
Yes he is replaceable and ideally we would aim for someone with a little more skill, but don't understate how important he was to us last campaign.
Over the years this club has a tradition of hard working players who gave it 100% when they pull on the shirt. Johnny fitted that bill exactly. He seemed a very genuine guy who reminded me of some of our players from a previous era- not stars but grafters. I wish him well.

CPFC_DAVE77
11-06-2010, 01:07 PM
Over the years this club has a tradition of hard working players who gave it 100% when they pull on the shirt. Johnny fitted that bill exactly. He seemed a very genuine guy who reminded me of some of our players from a previous era- not stars but grafters. I wish him well.

part of the reason I feel we have this love for these sorts of players is because they are the player we could be. We have not got the talent to play for Palace, but if we ever did pull on the shirt, and run out onto that pitch, each and every one of us would die on that turf if need be for the Palace. These players with that never give up attitude personify the bare minimum we expect, and indeed deserve. It's also the reason it hurts a bit more when they leave us.

Stellavista
11-06-2010, 04:27 PM
but if we ever did pull on the shirt, and run out onto that pitch, each and every one of us would die on that turf if need be for the Palace.



Speak for yourself, Gunga Din.....:o

pauldrulez
11-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Dele Adebola and Ade Akinbiyi were two of the most hard working and committed players I have seen in the Red and Blue...........
One of them bloody wasn't.

pauldrulez
11-06-2010, 04:47 PM
However, Super Wayne Andrews was.

Squash
11-06-2010, 04:51 PM
Very sad to see him go. The passion expressed by ertl for a club that he had only recently broken into the team for shows exactly the sort of players we need at palace. Players that are playing for the shirt. Good luck to him.

Squash
11-06-2010, 04:53 PM
However, Super Wayne Andrews was.


When we beat Nowrich 4 - 0 or something at home, i remember getting up from a challenge form huckaby and just showing him 4 fingers. legend! :lux:

maestro
11-06-2010, 09:15 PM
To be honest Im not really that dissapointed, he was a bit of a ten a penny championship player, tried hard but couldnt pass a ball to save his life, it really frustrated me to watch him give the ball away time and time again, I think his wages could be better served elsewhere.

He seems a nice honest guy though and I wish him the best.

gold76
11-06-2010, 09:36 PM
Muck & bullets players are always required in any side, what they lack in terms of skill, more than make up for in terms of effort & dedication.

The SQUAD as a whole is poorer for losing Johnny

maestro
11-06-2010, 10:22 PM
Ofcourse at the moment its poorer but I think its a player who you can replace fairly easilly.


If we lost Speroni or Ambrose, real quality players then we be far worse off.

Duffle Coat
12-06-2010, 05:54 PM
I can honestly say, I am shocked by this news. Been out of touch with developments but JE was one player I was sure we had in the squad. Shocking !

qphahaha
13-06-2010, 11:25 AM
Oh dear.

Palestinian
14-06-2010, 08:55 AM
part of the reason I feel we have this love for these sorts of players is because they are the player we could be. We have not got the talent to play for Palace, but if we ever did pull on the shirt, and run out onto that pitch, each and every one of us would die on that turf if need be for the Palace. These players with that never give up attitude personify the bare minimum we expect, and indeed deserve. It's also the reason it hurts a bit more when they leave us.
what an excellent post!

Jordan's Jacket
14-06-2010, 09:08 AM
Even so, he wasn't very good was he