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Il Padrino
10-06-2010, 10:33 AM
http://www.southlondon-today.co.uk/tn/sport.cfm?id=20551&headline=Premier%20League%20clubs%20queue%20up%20t o%20sign%20Nathaniel%20Clyne

FOUR Premier League clubs are fighting to sign Crystal Palace teenager Nathaniel Clyne.
Aston Villa, Everton, West Ham and Wolves are all interested in the 19-year-old Stockwell-born defender.
The England U19 international rejected the chance to move to Molineux in January, preferring to stay at Selhurst Park and help keep the Eagles in the Championship.
However, with that feat now achieved, it seems likely that Clyne will be on his way out of SE25.
“A few clubs have enquired about him,” said a source close to the player. “Lots of managers are interested and I do expect him to go to a Premier League club."
For the full story and all the latest Palace news, see Friday's South London Press.

kolinkins
10-06-2010, 10:33 AM
Piss off.

eagles #1
10-06-2010, 10:35 AM
£5m please.

GodstoneEagle
10-06-2010, 10:36 AM
Who's the 'quote' from?

Stigma
10-06-2010, 10:37 AM
:( Well £5m and okay you can have him.

JamTheEagle
10-06-2010, 10:38 AM
For balls sake. Let's hope Nathy does the same again and rejects them all, nothing has changed from January - you will still go there and possibly not even get on the bench for 2-3 years.

Probably MON leading the chase, for the love of god don't go there.

EagleSE24
10-06-2010, 10:38 AM
Stay and have a full season with us Clyney. You'll learn far more in the first team than the Spammers' reserves.

Let us get on an even financial keel and then go with everyone's blessing for a decent price.

We'll just get done if he goes now. £8m for Connor Wickham?! In that case £5-10m for Clyne please.

pauldrulez
10-06-2010, 10:41 AM
£5m+ please or dont ask

dannyboy1807
10-06-2010, 10:41 AM
can we please if he goes get the players true value.

Psychokiller
10-06-2010, 10:43 AM
£5m? Are you lot on crack? For one of the best young full backs in the country? Double that at least. If he was playing for the reserves at a Premiershit club he'd have at least 10 England U21 caps by now.

Absolution
10-06-2010, 10:46 AM
£5m? Are you lot on crack? For one of the best young full backs in the country? Double that at least. If he was playing for the reserves at a Premiershit club he'd have at least 10 England U21 caps by now.You can base his value purely on Kyle Naughton, who is 1 or 2 years older, and arguably Clyne is already better than him.

EagleSE24
10-06-2010, 10:48 AM
£5m? Are you lot on crack? For one of the best young full backs in the country? Double that at least. If he was playing for the reserves at a Premiershit club he'd have at least 10 England U21 caps by now.

Problem is, RB is traditionally where you put your worst player. The money is in the more glamorous positions, even though I think he can go on to be on a par with Cashley in his full back skill.

EagleSE24
10-06-2010, 10:50 AM
You can base his value purely on Kyle Naughton, who is 1 or 2 years older, and arguably Clyne is already better than him.

Ah yes. Great point! £10 combined for Walker and Naughton wasn't it. Both have done approximately **** all since leaving Sheff U.

David of Kent
10-06-2010, 10:55 AM
Hopefully, at least with the new board, we will be able to get a more realistic value on our players than we had with Moses. Clyne has a contract for at least a couple of years yet, and CPFC2010 seem the sort to play hardball, so I'm hoping that at least if we lose our young stars we will at least be heavily compensated from hereon in.

webbo1990
10-06-2010, 10:56 AM
Ah yes. Great point! £10 combined for Walker and Naughton wasn't it. Both have done approximately **** all since leaving Sheff U.
£10m? They did wonders getting that didnt they! I don't know how SU aren't rolling in dough these days.

For all our hopes and aspirations of getting lorry loads of cash, i am sure no one will bid more than £3m.

Will S
10-06-2010, 11:01 AM
It'll be an interesting litmus test for the new regime... tell them he's not for sale? Or... sell for 5-6 million and show we're no longer push overs.... or sell for 1 million and signal to the fans that pragmatism rules.

cpfcben
10-06-2010, 11:02 AM
Look how much Spurs paid for Walker and Naughton the Sheffield United defenders. £8m the pair. Minimum £5m. More likely price £1.5m

Aki Aki Aki
10-06-2010, 11:09 AM
Wolves again ? Didn't they get the message (from Nathaniel) a few months back.

The Gerry Queen
10-06-2010, 11:10 AM
We don't have to sell him so unless the price is right and up there in Prem fantasy prices, then he should stay and get a full season under his belt. If somebody offered upwards of £4m we should think about it. The days of ripping Palace off are over :)

stinky
10-06-2010, 11:11 AM
I hope Stephen is reading this thread

Psychokiller
10-06-2010, 11:14 AM
Problem is, RB is traditionally where you put your worst player. The money is in the more glamorous positions, even though I think he can go on to be on a par with Cashley in his full back skill.
Hmm, well, England have gone to the world cup with only one specialist right back in Glen Johnson which suggests that they're lacking in that position....

Palace Dan
10-06-2010, 11:19 AM
Well if it goes to tribunal we may get 2 grab bags of Walkers .... :rolleyes:

A word to the Prem clubs - grow your own!!

Absolution
10-06-2010, 11:23 AM
£10m? They did wonders getting that didnt they! I don't know how SU aren't rolling in dough these days.

For all our hopes and aspirations of getting lorry loads of cash, i am sure no one will bid more than £3m.Probably because they splashed out £3mil on Ched Evans, and £2mil on Billy Sharp.. for starters!

webbo1990
10-06-2010, 11:29 AM
Probably because they splashed out £3mil on Ched Evans, and £2mil on Billy Sharp.. for starters!
Ahh yes, well said. Evans looked good for all of one month! SU also got the ruling on the Tevez affair, so got paid out didnt they? I'm sure they're loaded.

Hopefully Nath will stay put for a couple of more seasons at least, signing a new contract on the way, before moving on. He only needs to look at past departures to realise that the grass isn't always green on the other side.

Palestinian
10-06-2010, 11:33 AM
Problem is, RB is traditionally where you put your worst player. The money is in the more glamorous positions, even though I think he can go on to be on a par with Cashley in his full back skill.
Maybe on a Sunday morning (I was often put there...) but not sure that's true at Championship level or above
I hope he stays, but if he goes wouldn't expect anything like £5m - transfer market values were very deflated in January (look at what we got for Victor) unlikley that they'll pick up in the summer.

Woosie
10-06-2010, 11:39 AM
Well if it goes to tribunal we may get 2 grab bags of Walkers .... :rolleyes:

A word to the Prem clubs - grow your own!!

It's ok though, Clyne isn't out of contract so there would be no need for it to go to a tribunal. I can't see why that report makes it seem as though he would leave because he's helped us stay in the championship. Surely he helped us stay where we are so that he can play for us and get us into the premiership? Anyway like everyone is saying at least £5million and then plenty of clauses should be added. It's possible for us to keep him though isn't it, now that CPFC2010 are providing funds?

FraserH
10-06-2010, 11:41 AM
i wouldn't balme him if he went after he turned down wolves earlier in the season.

if he goes he would leave with my best wishes I just hope it doesn't ruin his career if he leaves and sits on a bench for 3 seasons as he is a lot better than that.

NRM the 2nd
10-06-2010, 11:42 AM
To be honest if he is to go to the prem I hope it is with some like Everton and a manager like Moyes who will push his career forward, would hate to see him go and languish in the reserves at one of the talent wasters that are the "big 4"

PalaceForever
10-06-2010, 11:42 AM
"Another shit story with crap quotes from no one in particular" said a source close to PalaceForever.

Hope we hang onto him - classy player

LiamCPFC
10-06-2010, 11:46 AM
You can base his value purely on Kyle Naughton, who is 1 or 2 years older, and arguably Clyne is already better than him.


Exactly what I was thinking. With Sheff Utd getting £8-10 million for Naughton and Walker, makes Clyne worth at least £5 million.

LiamCPFC
10-06-2010, 11:55 AM
Who's the 'quote' from?


Matt Lawrence?

Son of Coveta
10-06-2010, 11:55 AM
7 m plus a few clauses will really help us out and would be fair i reckon.We could really strengthen the team then and put a couple of million in the bank as well.Never happen though it just does not happen to us.

Stavros 69
10-06-2010, 12:09 PM
When's everyone going to start blaming ML.

Sunny Fan
10-06-2010, 12:13 PM
"A source close to" a player is often an agent. Not always, but often.

Palace Kebab
10-06-2010, 12:34 PM
"A source close to" a player is often an agent. Not always, but often.

In this case his Dad IIRC

He is under contract, so is unlikely to be going anywhere unless a very good offer is received.

elgin eagle
10-06-2010, 12:37 PM
It'll be an interesting litmus test for the new regime... tell them he's not for sale? Or... sell for 5-6 million and show we're no longer push overs.... or sell for 1 million and signal to the fans that pragmatism rules.

Or keep Clyne and buy the enquiring Clubs right back as backup for their cheek :D


Seriously though, now is the real test for the consortium, they did an amazing deal there, lets see how they fare against scum agents, greedy players, and hardened managers and chairmen.

An entertaining young squad with promise and resale values acquired through free transfers and academy growth please cpfc2010 :p

Stonewall
10-06-2010, 12:39 PM
Can't see Natty moving too far outside London yet. He like's his home life and being around his mates at the mo. His Mum told me this last year just before he signed that new contract.

Psychokiller
10-06-2010, 12:49 PM
Unlike Bostock, Clyne has a decent family looking out for him. I can't see him leaving just yet.

kolinkins
10-06-2010, 12:53 PM
"A source close to" a player is often an agent. Not always, but often.

It's not his agent. His agent thinks he should stay for at least 1 more year.

pedro
10-06-2010, 01:01 PM
:( Well £5m and okay you can have him.
I agree his talent is probably worth that but Premier league clubs are going to say he couldn't get in the first team ahead of Butterfield so he cannot be that good!

webbo1990
10-06-2010, 01:03 PM
I agree his talent is probably worth that but Premier league clubs are going to say he couldn't get in the first team ahead of Butterfield so he cannot be that good!
That's right Ped. He's not a regular starter for the U19's either, from what i read.

Absolution
10-06-2010, 01:08 PM
It's not his agent. His agent thinks he should stay for at least 1 more year.Hopefully he also thinks Clyne should sign a 3 year contract extension with a minimum release clause of £10mil!

cockles
10-06-2010, 01:09 PM
I expect Newcastle is one of the 4 clubs. The manager Houghton was very complimentary about our team when we unluckily lost up there in January.
I guess Wolves, Villa and maybe Wigan to be the rest.

Sunny Fan
10-06-2010, 01:10 PM
I guess it's Aston Villa, Everton, West Ham and Wolves.
What do I win?

maestro
10-06-2010, 01:16 PM
I know alot wont agree but if it were me owning cristal palace and we got a very good offer Id probably let him go, he's a great little player but a right back isnt really a crucial position and its not going to make or break our season, if bvy selling him it let us hold onto ambrose and possibly bring in another attacking player to play alongside lee I think it would be fairly good business.

I also think the prices suggested on here are a bit wishfull thinking, id expect 2million would get him.

We have to live within our means now, which unfortunately means selling good players

STEVECPFC
10-06-2010, 01:17 PM
If he goes, will we resign Abnett?

Lords Eagle
10-06-2010, 01:29 PM
I agree his talent is probably worth that but Premier league clubs are going to say he couldn't get in the first team ahead of Butterfield so he cannot be that good!

Then why do they want him at all, afraid they can't use that argument.

AJ
10-06-2010, 01:42 PM
There is a lot of "unknowns" at Palace at the moment. I am sure some, if not most of the players don't know what to think about the clubs and their status.

They probably have had little of no contact with CPFC2010, no idea who will be manager and according to someone, nothing at all from the club since the SW game. There are going to be a lot of rumours flying around and sadly, a lot of unhappy players who may prefer to move on to another club.

Woosie
10-06-2010, 02:20 PM
If he goes, will we resign Abnett?

I doubt it, as we have Kenlock who is capable of stepping up and filling Clyne's role.

ebyeeckeagle
10-06-2010, 02:24 PM
All our players are for sale. I think we are realsitic enough to know even with new owners, we are not in a clever position.

For the moment, it's about the right price.

pauldrulez
10-06-2010, 02:26 PM
CPFC2010 browsing.

You know it makes sense Stephen :hi: We're no longer pushovers with the Chuckle Brothers no longer in charge

And before my Dad looks at the thread, yes I should be working.

whoisdanze?
10-06-2010, 02:53 PM
bullshit, all bullshit. he can not be that daft to go.

gold76
10-06-2010, 03:33 PM
Under contract till 2012?

No need to sell him this year.

Would be best for him to stay & play 40+ games, then sit on some one's bench.

PeterH
10-06-2010, 03:49 PM
I expect we will get 2m.

cpfck1llz
10-06-2010, 03:51 PM
nathaniel says he wants to stay for as long as possible and he would be wasted at a prem club. let him stay at palace for another season then he would probably be ready for the premiership.

Seaside Eagle
10-06-2010, 04:46 PM
Another good Championship season will see his value increase again by at least another million.

orp pisshead1
13-06-2010, 09:59 PM
We don't have to sell him so unless the price is right and up there in Prem fantasy prices, then he should stay and get a full season under his belt. If somebody offered upwards of £4m we should think about it. The days of ripping Palace off are over :)

Imo £4 mill is a rip off
1: Hopefully we don't need to sell.
2: His only competition is johnson(liverpool) for future rb position for england.
3: With the new rules in place re: premiership where clubs need 10 "home grown" players imo prem clubs will be desperate to buy class english/british players and lets face the premiershit has loads of money floating around , so £ 7 mill +

orp pisshead1
13-06-2010, 10:01 PM
I expect we will get 2m.

Why? new owners ain't no mugs and can't see them getting ripped off:p

glaziers fan
13-06-2010, 10:38 PM
I know alot wont agree but if it were me owning cristal palace and we got a very good offer Id probably let him go, he's a great little player but a right back isnt really a crucial position...

I agree with this to an extent.

In fact, so much, that I'd consider him for the holding role. He's so good at tackling and retaining possession and then offloading a simple pass, and he has the coolness to not panic and the ability to dribble past if necessary.

As a right-back he so far hasn't shown he has the shot/cross to contribute as much as even DannyB in an attacking -role, despite his performances showing he is infinitely more talented, and that he has the ability to effortlessly dribble his way down the wing.

AJ
14-06-2010, 10:20 AM
3: With the new rules in place re: premiership where clubs need 10 "home grown" players imo prem clubs will be desperate to buy class english/british players and lets face the premiershit has loads of money floating around , so £ 7 mill +

With FIFA about to scrap their home grown plan, I expect the FA to scrap theirs also.

thefox
14-06-2010, 10:39 AM
Why? new owners ain't no mugs and can't see them getting ripped off:p

Because we still aren't and probably never will make a profit unless it's selling players like previous chairmen. We don't know how much of our losses 2010 are prepared to fund out of their own pockets. Other clubs know this so will offer low especially with football debts mounting up.
2010 are smart enough to know though that selling Clyne for a low price could put people off coming though.

thefox
14-06-2010, 10:40 AM
Imo £4 mill is a rip off
1: Hopefully we don't need to sell.
2: His only competition is johnson(liverpool) for future rb position for england.
3: With the new rules in place re: premiership where clubs need 10 "home grown" players imo prem clubs will be desperate to buy class english/british players and lets face the premiershit has loads of money floating around , so £ 7 mill +

That's right Ped. He's not a regular starter for the U19's either, from what i read.
.

BulletEagle
14-06-2010, 05:31 PM
£5 million please. Unfortunately, we aren't broke any more. :hi:

whereEaglesFly
14-06-2010, 05:44 PM
I expect we will get 2m.
Then your an idiot:veryangry

AJ's right boot
14-06-2010, 08:14 PM
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3: With the new rules in place re: premiership where clubs need 10 "home grown" players imo prem clubs will be desperate to buy class english/british players and lets face the premiershit has loads of money floating around , so £ 7 mill +
I thought that rule had been scrapped? happy for someone to tell me im wrong though.

Russ_uk
14-06-2010, 08:22 PM
hasn't he already said i didnt wanna go to wolves

Plus new owners said they do NOT need to sell players - and selling our young talent is like shooting ourselves in the foot

orp pisshead1
15-06-2010, 05:30 AM
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And your point? Its about supply and demand imo , quality rb's are in very short supply and we've one of the best in the business. So what if he wasn't a reg last season(mistake by the managers imo) his assured displays against premiership sides in the cup last season showed his true class.

thefox
15-06-2010, 08:24 AM
And your point? Its about supply and demand imo , quality rb's are in very short demand and we've one of the best in the business. So what if he wasn't a reg last season(mistake by the managers imo) his assured displays against premiership sides in the cup last season showed his true class.

My point ?

You said Johnson is his only competition for the future England right back position, what about the first and second choice for England under 21s or under 20's ? He seems to only start every second game for the under 19's for whatever reason. Is it because there is someone else as good as him ?

Yes he is good and hopefully he does become Englands right back and if he has to leave we won't get £5 million for him.




We will get at least £10m.

Seaside Eagle
15-06-2010, 05:19 PM
My point ?

We will get at least £10m.

Not until he has played in the Premiership, will he be worth a penny over £3/4 million. He's a great defender, and could play for England in the future; but we don't know for sure.

I'd bite anyone's arm off for 10m, but it is so INCREDIBLY unlikely that we'd get anything like that.

bearman
15-06-2010, 05:46 PM
Not until he has played in the Premiership, will he be worth a penny over £3/4 million. He's a great defender, and could play for England in the future; but we don't know for sure.

I'd bite anyone's arm off for 10m, but it is so INCREDIBLY unlikely that we'd get anything like that.

Thefox was joking...

orp pisshead1
15-06-2010, 11:02 PM
My point ?

You said Johnson is his only competition for the future England right back position, what about the first and second choice for England under 21s or under 20's ? He seems to only start every second game for the under 19's for whatever reason. Is it because there is someone else as good as him ?

Yes he is good and hopefully he does become Englands right back and if he has to leave we won't get £5 million for him.




We will get at least £10m.

At least we agree on his value:p , any idea who the u-20 and u-21 rb's are?

orp pisshead1
15-06-2010, 11:04 PM
Not until he has played in the Premiership, will he be worth a penny over £3/4 million. He's a great defender, and could play for England in the future; but we don't know for sure.

I'd bite anyone's arm off for 10m, but it is so INCREDIBLY unlikely that we'd get anything like that.

He was superb in the cups last season against premiership oppo:p .

orp pisshead1
15-06-2010, 11:05 PM
Thefox was joking...

Doh!

hoskingt
15-06-2010, 11:38 PM
It does worry me that the reason he stayed in January was because of Warnock? I feel he may want to follow him - get a starting 11 spot and be with the manager that brought him into the spotlight.

jordanismygod
16-06-2010, 08:22 AM
Birmingham say they are in advanced negotiations with us.