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JamieBcpfc
21-06-2010, 04:39 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1288180/Jay-Simpson-talks-Omonia-Nicosia-Arsenal-tell-striker-leave.html

The Mail claims that Jay Simpson will be allowed to leave on a free transfer and only Omonia Nicosia and Peterborough are interested. Surely he would be an excellent signing for any championship team. He had a pretty good goal record for QPR last year and I was impressed whenever I saw him for WBA in the premiership

DaveP
21-06-2010, 04:40 PM
If true and he is available on a free i would most certainly make an offer for him.

hamge
21-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Erm "The 21-year-old, who is in the final year of his contract at Arsenal, was on loan at QPR last season but has been told he is free to leave if a suitable offer comes in."

Sell on fee?

the kooch
21-06-2010, 05:30 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1288180/Jay-Simpson-talks-Omonia-Nicosia-Arsenal-tell-striker-leave.html

The Mail claims that Jay Simpson will be allowed to leave on a free transfer and only Omonia Nicosia and Peterborough are interested. Surely he would be an excellent signing for any championship team. He had a pretty good goal record for QPR last year and I was impressed whenever I saw him for WBA in the premiership


Are you sure?

hamge
21-06-2010, 08:28 PM
2009–2010 → Queens Park Rangers (loan) 39 (12)

CPFC_DAVE77
21-06-2010, 08:33 PM
He is certainly worth bringing in as a squad player.

gold76
21-06-2010, 09:14 PM
A good age, can develop

FromSelhurst
21-06-2010, 11:45 PM
would defo improve our team, add pace and a goal threat. him on the right and ambrose on the left would be handy.

Kirby
22-06-2010, 12:53 AM
I wasn't sure about him after his loan spell at WBA, but he seemed to do pretty well for a disjointed QPR side last season.

If he's available on the cheap he would be exactly what we're looking for. Someone tell George!

brooklynlou
22-06-2010, 01:29 AM
Its that "free to leave if a suitable offer comes in" part that gums up the work as who knows how much do Arsenal value him?

GreatGonzo
22-06-2010, 08:38 AM
would defo improve our team, add pace and a goal threat. him on the right and ambrose on the left would be handy.

Is that not 2 players out of position?

FromSelhurst
22-06-2010, 05:29 PM
Is that not 2 players out of position?

not really.

David Amsalem
22-06-2010, 06:02 PM
If we were going to pay a fee, this is the sort of player I would like us to purchase.

Low risk but good potential selling on fee.

Palestinian
23-06-2010, 07:52 AM
If we were going to pay a fee, this is the sort of player I would like us to purchase.

Low risk but good potential selling on fee.
Agree
But still may be out of our price range & wage policy

CallMeBernard
24-06-2010, 01:17 PM
His mum is god-mother to my kid, and best mates with my missus.

rhynoeagle
24-06-2010, 05:59 PM
Wanted by Millwall

cpfc4evandeva
24-06-2010, 06:01 PM
Low risk but good potential selling on fee.
And my guess is that Arsenal would end up taking most of it.

cpfcfan124
24-06-2010, 06:04 PM
His mum is god-mother to my kid, and best mates with my missus.
Tell him to sign for us than :p :p lol

Woosie
24-06-2010, 06:12 PM
I think he's a good player, but for some reason I'm not a fan of his. I wouldn't complain if we did sign him of course. I imagine Millwall might have an edge over us in a battle to sign him because he has played at Millwall before and done well, so probably enjoyed it there. Be interested to find out what price they want for him.

HARRY MONK
28-06-2010, 09:24 AM
I think he's a good player, but for some reason I'm not a fan of his. I wouldn't complain if we did sign him of course. I imagine Millwall might have an edge over us in a battle to sign him because he has played at Millwall before and done well, so probably enjoyed it there. Be interested to find out what price they want for him.
too good for millwall we should be pulling up trees to get him if hes realistic financially !

brooklynlou
21-07-2010, 11:08 PM
Arsenal starlet to quit club after summer tour snub

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-starlet-Jay-Simpson-to-quit-club-after-summer-tour-snub-article533147.html

Jay Simpson is set to quit Arsenal after being excluded from their pre-season tour.

Homegrown Gunners’ striker Simpson, 21, hoped for a final chance to save his Emirates career after scoring twice against Barnet.

But Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has omitted Simpson from the party which travelled to Austria.

Simpson, who has 12 months left on his contract, is now set to leave on another season-long loan after being farmed out to QPR last term.

QPR, Leeds, Hull and Leicester all want the starlet with a view to a permanent transfer next summer when he will be available for just compensation.

JamTheEagle
21-07-2010, 11:14 PM
Hope this could be the Premiership striker we are linked with.

Oh south london
22-07-2010, 01:15 AM
Think he is a little out of our league atm. Suppoes we could attract him because we are a London club.

doodledandy
22-07-2010, 03:59 AM
If true and he is available on a free i would most certainly make an offer for him.
Better make your offer then!

doodledandy
22-07-2010, 04:02 AM
If we were going to pay a fee, this is the sort of player I would like us to purchase.

Low risk but good potential selling on fee.
Perhaps you can go 50/50 with Dave P then?

GDP
22-07-2010, 08:21 AM
Yes please, I thought he looked more than capable at this level while playing at QPR.

I would expect a whole host of clubs in for him though.

Jasper
22-07-2010, 08:50 AM
I went to the Barnet Arsenal game when I couldn't get a ticket to Palace. Simpson looked quite good, his two goals were fairly simple finishes but he got himself into good positions. He would be a decent signing. In fact any of the young Arsenal players would be good for us, perhaps we could take 8 or 9 on loan.

Absolution
22-07-2010, 09:08 AM
I went to the Barnet Arsenal game when I couldn't get a ticket to Palace. Simpson looked quite good, his two goals were fairly simple finishes but he got himself into good positions. He would be a decent signing. In fact any of the young Arsenal players would be good for us, perhaps we could take 8 or 9 on loan.Pretty sure our Academy beat theirs a couple of months back. :D We can play our U18's.

We can't bank on an unknown loan signing having any real impact. Most Prem-Reserves have little to no first team experience.

eagleforlife
22-07-2010, 09:12 AM
Pretty sure our Academy beat theirs a couple of months back. :D We can play our U18's.

We can't bank on an unknown loan signing having any real impact. Most Prem-Reserves have little to no first team experience.

TBF they gave their U16s a run out against our U18s.

okey eagle
22-07-2010, 09:18 AM
Arsenal starlet to quit club after summer tour snub

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-starlet-Jay-Simpson-to-quit-club-after-summer-tour-snub-article533147.html

I reckon it would be worth go to try and sign him. It always amazes me why anyone would want to move to and live in places like Leicester, Hull and Leeds.

rhynoeagle
22-07-2010, 09:22 AM
Imagin signing him permenantly, That would be amazing. :D

He'll go to QPR i guess.

cockles
22-07-2010, 09:34 AM
TBF they gave their U16s a run out against our U18s.

Add how many of our line-up were actually 18 I wonder?

I think Kyle Da Silva for instance was playing for the U18s last season and was actually maybe only 15 or 16.... Some others here will know for sure.

EDIT: so what's to say Zaha won't become at least as good as Simpson.

kettle
22-07-2010, 11:35 AM
Either way, we have a fairly good record with Arsenal youngsters.

Cole, Taylor (not great I admit), Black, Gray, Upson?

Sign him up! I know that we should use people like Zaha, but Simpson has more experience at this and a higher level.

ChristalPalace
22-07-2010, 11:36 AM
Either way, we have a fairly good record with Arsenal youngsters.

Cole, Taylor (not great I admit), Black, Gray, Upson?

Rui Fonte? Ah...

cpfcfan1
22-07-2010, 11:37 AM
Surely will want to go to Milwall?

rhynoeagle
22-07-2010, 11:38 AM
Either way, we have a fairly good record with Arsenal youngsters.

Cole, Taylor (not great I admit), Black, Gray, Upson?

Sign him up! I know that we should use people like Zaha, but Simpson has more experience at this and a higher level.

Players like Simpson can be a great role model for youngens like Zaha, i think Jay would be a great addition to our squad. But i cant see him coming here. But it would be amazing to see him come here permenantly.

JamTheEagle
22-07-2010, 11:38 AM
Surely will want to go to Milwall?

Probably, http://www.southwarknews.co.uk/sport/00,news,20227,5226,00.htm

rhynoeagle
22-07-2010, 11:46 AM
Probably, http://www.southwarknews.co.uk/sport/00,news,20227,5226,00.htm


Is John Bostock trying to get himself hated as much as he can. If he goes to Millwall on Loan he will be the most criminal thing ever to be seen at Palace.

cpfc4evandeva
22-07-2010, 12:07 PM
If he goes to Millwall and ends up playing against I can imagine the atmosphere will spill over.

ChristalPalace
22-07-2010, 12:13 PM
Is John Bostock trying to get himself hated as much as he can. If he goes to Millwall on Loan he will be the most criminal thing ever to be seen at Palace.

God will show him the divine path towards a big pile of cash for doing sweet Faustino Asprilla.

brooklynlou
22-07-2010, 01:09 PM
Bostock at the Den? Wow. The kid is rapidly trying to make himself the most hated man in Palace history.

Pikie Punisher
22-07-2010, 07:39 PM
It always amazes me why anyone would want to move to and live in places like Leicester, Hull and Leeds.

Prostitutes?

yorkshire eagle
22-07-2010, 07:57 PM
:hi:

(however east anglia is the best place to live in the uk!)

Dal
22-07-2010, 08:23 PM
Prostitutes?

I live in Leicester and my wife and I were woken up in the middle of the night last week by two prostitutes arguing in our street about a punter. :(

NZsparky
22-07-2010, 10:13 PM
I live in Leicester and my wife and I were woken up in the middle of the night last week by two prostitutes arguing in our street about a punter. :(
What was NW doing in Leicester? Must be up there on Business buying a striker for the qpha

dufski13
22-07-2010, 11:06 PM
Either way, we have a fairly good record with Arsenal youngsters.

Cole, Taylor (not great I admit), Black, Gray, Upson?

Sign him up! I know that we should use people like Zaha, but Simpson has more experience at this and a higher level.

Upson was rubbish at Palace.

jobiinthelastmi
22-07-2010, 11:12 PM
Upson was rubbish at Palace.

Some of the loans we've had in recent years have been woeful!

Sears, Dickov, Idrijaz (Liverpool guy), Halls?, Rui Fonte, i'm sure there are more.

But some of the decent loan signings like Derry, Hill, Beattie, Sinclair

ChristalPalace
22-07-2010, 11:21 PM
Some of the loans we've had in recent years have been woeful!

Sears, Dickov, Idrijaz (Liverpool guy), Halls?, Rui Fonte, i'm sure there are more.

But some of the decent loan signings like Derry, Hill, Beattie, Sinclair

Halls was a free agent on a short-term contract.

And though you're right, cut Idrizaj some slack... RIP.

doodledandy
22-07-2010, 11:56 PM
I live in Leicester and my wife and I were woken up in the middle of the night last week by two prostitutes arguing in our street about a punter. :(
Did you fling the window open and tell them to go **** themselves? :D

GodstoneEagle
23-07-2010, 01:50 AM
Halls was a free agent on a short-term contract..
nope

917L
23-07-2010, 06:56 AM
Halls was a free agent on a short-term contract.

.

Halls was a Loan from Reading

Ryan Smith was a free agent on an STC

Lords Eagle
23-07-2010, 07:53 AM
Upson was rubbish at Palace.

Indeed, truly dreadful

rhynoeagle
23-07-2010, 08:46 AM
Upson was rubbish at Palace.

And Upson is still terrible now.

rhynoeagle
23-07-2010, 08:46 AM
Some of the loans we've had in recent years have been woeful!

Sears, Dickov, Idrijaz (Liverpool guy), Halls?, Rui Fonte, i'm sure there are more.

But some of the decent loan signings like Derry, Hill, Beattie, Sinclair


I though Halls was good for palace ? Or atleast he wasnt woeful.

ChristalPalace
23-07-2010, 09:41 AM
Halls was a Loan from Reading

Ryan Smith was a free agent on an STC

Just looked it up, and indeed you're right.

Apologies everyone.

jobiinthelastmi
23-07-2010, 09:58 AM
I though Halls was good for palace ? Or atleast he wasnt woeful.

Away at Leicester he was very very bad :D

Glazier69
23-07-2010, 01:16 PM
Did you fling the window open and tell them to go **** themselves? :D

They would have still wanted paying

cpfcfan1
03-08-2010, 04:22 PM
Sandowneagle says we are talking to him tomorrow, heres hoping :)

deftones_eagle
03-08-2010, 04:42 PM
Sandowneagle says we are talking to him tomorrow, heres hoping :)

He would be a fantastic signing, and would marry up with what GB said about getting a striker in before Saturday.

Shipp Ahoy!
03-08-2010, 04:56 PM
Would absolutely LOVE this to come off!

If it does I will be putting a cheeky couple of quid on us going up this season :D

DaveP
03-08-2010, 04:56 PM
Would be absolutely ecstatic if we could sign him, would be a great signing!

CPFC_DAVE77
03-08-2010, 04:59 PM
Please happen.

Voldo
03-08-2010, 05:03 PM
Brizzle after him too....

South London could be the pull in our favour?

cockles
03-08-2010, 05:04 PM
If so, I'd assume it a vote of confidence from Wenger in GB's style over NW's.

It seems he can put the ball in the net, which is what we need of course.

rhynoeagle
03-08-2010, 05:04 PM
Please Please happen

eagle101
03-08-2010, 05:05 PM
Yes please.

Typical Palace
03-08-2010, 05:07 PM
Upson was rubbish at Palace.
To be fair (which I really don't want to be after his World Cup 'performance') he was played at right back by Alan Smith when Arsenal had been promised he'd be played in his 'natural' position at centre back.

As for Rui Fonte. Garbage. A waste of time. The loan system at its worst. Where is the waster these days?

glaziers fan
03-08-2010, 05:08 PM
excellent news. Is he a proven goalscorer though? If not he might hold back Zaha. At least he is proven as a player in the championship though. :)

Typical Palace
03-08-2010, 05:11 PM
To answer my own question: Rui Fonte is playing for Vitória de Setúbal, still on loan from Sporting Lisbon, in Portugal. He made seven appearances and, yep, you guessed it, he still has not scored a goal. Not one. Never. At all.

kolinkins
03-08-2010, 05:15 PM
Would be a cracking signing.

Neillo's Son
03-08-2010, 05:18 PM
13 in 41 last season for a side which ultimately struggled. Basically 1 in 3, if he could replicate that for us (if he signs) then we could be in for a good season!

Really hope this comes off...

Bobsta
03-08-2010, 05:19 PM
Is he on a free or loan?

David Amsalem
03-08-2010, 05:20 PM
This is exactly the type of signing we ought to be making.

A young player with a good history in a position that needs filling.

C'mon Burley, work your magic :p

aj forever
03-08-2010, 05:30 PM
if were up again sir steve then i can prob see him going there....but hey keep our fingers crossed, cant wait to singing again in block b......

Dedders
03-08-2010, 05:31 PM
if we get him my expectation for the season will double
no triple

rhynoeagle
03-08-2010, 05:34 PM
Is he on a free or loan?

Thats what im thinking ? He doenst want to stay at arse im sure he said that. I guess loan.

cpfcfan1
03-08-2010, 05:37 PM
Got a year left, Im gussing we would look to loan then an option to buy, with a small fee through tribunal

ChristalPalace
03-08-2010, 05:37 PM
Is he on a free or loan?

Not on a free. He's in contract and would be subject to a tribunal in any case.

FromSelhurst
03-08-2010, 05:37 PM
would be a seriously good signing.

Woolwich Eagle
03-08-2010, 08:24 PM
yes please...come on burley..bring him in

Stigma
03-08-2010, 08:46 PM
Sandowneagle says we are talking to him tomorrow, heres hoping :)

Ohh sounds promising this..would be a great signing!

doodledandy
03-08-2010, 08:54 PM
excellent news. Is he a proven goalscorer though? If not he might hold back Zaha. At least he is proven as a player in the championship though. :)

Sorry, but this made me laugh. First of all you say "excellent news" then you ask "Is he a proven goalscorer". There's nothing like getting your priorities in order! :p ;) ;)

doodledandy
03-08-2010, 09:02 PM
Got a year left, Im gussing we would look to loan then an option to buy, with a small fee through tribunal

Not wanting to pi$$ on your fire, but I can't see it being a small fee involved for an Arsenal youngster. Even though Palace were disenchanted with what they got for Bostock (700k with add-on's, possibly taking it up to 1.2 mil), it would still be a massive sum for Palace to find if the tribunal values him in a similar way.

jobiinthelastmi
03-08-2010, 09:16 PM
Not wanting to pi$$ on your fire, but I can't see it being a small fee involved for an Arsenal youngster. Even though Palace were disenchanted with what they got for Bostock (700k with add-on's, possibly taking it up to 1.2 mil), it would still be a massive sum for Palace to find if the tribunal values him in a similar way.

There are a lot of factors to take into consideration in a tribunal.

"Oh he came from Arsenal he must be worth 1.5m" won't cut it :)

little dedders
03-08-2010, 09:16 PM
Sandowneagle says we are talking to him tomorrow, heres hoping :)

i might be being an idiot but where does sandowneagle say we're talking to him?

BulletEagle
03-08-2010, 09:24 PM
i might be being an idiot but where does sandowneagle say we're talking to him?

Twitter:

Loads asking who striker coming in.....I don't know but #cpfc talking to Simpson as well as Volkes again 2mrw. Lots of irons in fire

webbo1990
03-08-2010, 09:37 PM
Twitter:

Loads asking who striker coming in.....I don't know but #cpfc talking to Simpson as well as Volkes again 2mrw. Lots of irons in fire
Has there been a massive fire in Brighton tonight, then?

ThisIsDoM
03-08-2010, 09:44 PM
If we got either Vokes or Simpson then I would be absolutely over the moon. Please happen!

the digger
03-08-2010, 09:52 PM
Not wanting to pi$$ on your fire, but I can't see it being a small fee involved for an Arsenal youngster. Even though Palace were disenchanted with what they got for Bostock (700k with add-on's, possibly taking it up to 1.2 mil), it would still be a massive sum for Palace to find if the tribunal values him in a similar way.

Not if Arsenal don't offer him an improved contract, in writing.

webbo1990
03-08-2010, 10:01 PM
Not if Arsenal don't offer him an improved contract, in writing.
I've no idea if this is correct or not, but the Gosling debacle at Everton is the first case i'd ever heard of with regarding 'no contract in writing = completely free transfer'.

Certainly if the fee was decided by a tribunal, i suspect with a good few senior appearances and goals to his name, Simpson would cost several hundred grand, maybe a mil? Who knows. I think they pull a fee from a tombola!

We're probably getting ahead of ourselves anyway, it's probably a loan. Fantastic signing though, he's a good finisher!

doodledandy
03-08-2010, 10:12 PM
Not if Arsenal don't offer him an improved contract, in writing.

I wouldn't bet on that. It seems to me that any youngster with a top 6 premiership club is always valued at a pretty high figure by a tribunal. Anyway, time will tell, when and if the time comes.

ChristalPalace
03-08-2010, 10:15 PM
For a transfer to go to a tribunal, the player must be under 24, and his club must offer him a contract at least equal to his current one.

If they only offer him reduced terms then he can go for nothing.

james powell
03-08-2010, 10:15 PM
If we can BUY Simpson I'll wank myself to death.

craigybaby
03-08-2010, 10:19 PM
If we can BUY Simpson I'll wank myself to death.

:D

NZsparky
03-08-2010, 10:20 PM
If we can BUY Simpson I'll wank myself to death.
Well I hope I get the chance of calling you a tosser then:p

rainbow_child
03-08-2010, 10:24 PM
If we can BUY Simpson I'll wank myself to death.

If we can BUY Simpson I'll do it for you! :D

NZsparky
03-08-2010, 10:27 PM
If we can BUY Simpson I'll do it for you! :D
And before he knows it there are a long line of wankers outside his door:eek:
Still you reap what you sow

kuqicrisp
03-08-2010, 10:27 PM
If we got either Vokes or Simpson then I would be absolutely over the moon. Please happen!

lol

the digger
03-08-2010, 10:38 PM
I wouldn't bet on that. It seems to me that any youngster with a top 6 premiership club is always valued at a pretty high figure by a tribunal. Anyway, time will tell, when and if the time comes.

Ok then, I'll have £100 on Jay Simpson being available on a free if his contract expires and he is not offered better terms by Arsenal.

Heb 7:4
03-08-2010, 10:51 PM
the Gosling debacle at Everton
That Gosling. You can't take him anywhere

PauLo
03-08-2010, 11:03 PM
It'd be a great signing, but file it under "I'll believe it when I see it".

doodledandy
04-08-2010, 04:02 AM
For a transfer to go to a tribunal, the player must be under 24, and his club must offer him a contract at least equal to his current one.

If they only offer him reduced terms then he can go for nothing.

If that is true and I'm not convinced it is, they're not going to be daft enough to miss out, so I'm sure they will offer him exactly what he's on, especially if clubs are sniffing around.

doodledandy
04-08-2010, 04:04 AM
:D

With respect, he probably is anyway! :D

jansabo
04-08-2010, 05:27 AM
If that is true and I'm not convinced it is, they're not going to be daft enough to miss out, so I'm sure they will offer him exactly what he's on, especially if clubs are sniffing around.

Why should they offer him the same wages he is on if they think he never will reach the first eleven of Arsenal? I don`t think they will take the chance on him anymore and offering him the same deal as before can make him accept it and stay at Arsenal (where he probably never will earn himself matches at top level).

ed_glenn
04-08-2010, 06:33 AM
Going to Hull for 1.2 mill according to the mirror.

ricks-big-honda
04-08-2010, 06:51 AM
Oh Jay Simpson ! where did he put his gloves !!

cockles
04-08-2010, 06:54 AM
Going to Hull for 1.2 mill according to the mirror.

With who's money are Hull going to pay a fee for anyone?

cockles
04-08-2010, 07:15 AM
That Gosling. You can't take him anywhere

That was always going to be a wild goose chase....:moo:

Nigelbrag
04-08-2010, 07:56 AM
According to SSN this morning he is going to Hull 1.2m, looks like we are running out of options, it is a pity as we do need at least 1 possibly 2 strikers. I am surprised that GB has not considered some of the strikers in Scotland, the prolific ones we read about scoring week after week and who seem to score a hatful season after season. They may not be the most gifted playing wise, but do seem to know where the goal is, and that is what we need now, surely its worth considering GB.

Gooders
04-08-2010, 08:07 AM
According to SSN this morning he is going to Hull 1.2m...

Little children wept and cried as the waves came over the side
It was sad when that great ship went down

Stavros 69
04-08-2010, 08:10 AM
We need 2 strikers now Scanner is out.
No doubt they'll be loans.

The Gerry Queen
04-08-2010, 08:10 AM
According to SSN this morning he is going to Hull 1.2m, looks like we are running out of options, it is a pity as we do need at least 1 possibly 2 strikers. I am surprised that GB has not considered some of the strikers in Scotland, the prolific ones we read about scoring week after week and who seem to score a hatful season after season. They may not be the most gifted playing wise, but do seem to know where the goal is, and that is what we need now, surely its worth considering GB.

This is the same Hull City who were begging the Premier League yesterday not to withold their parachute payment in lieu of unpaid transfer and loan fee payments to UK and foreign clubs :rolleyes:

stinky
04-08-2010, 08:13 AM
Surely surely surely Hull can't afford to spunk £1.2m on a player, when they're on the verge of admin?

I mean, they've still got bloody Bullard and his wages on their books.

cdm61
04-08-2010, 08:14 AM
Jay Simpson is a wanted man...every club seems to be after him

stinky
04-08-2010, 08:15 AM
Oh Jay Simpson ! where did he put his gloves !!

I only just got this.

Very good

Bobsta
04-08-2010, 08:19 AM
According to SSN this morning he is going to Hull 1.2m, looks like we are running out of options, it is a pity as we do need at least 1 possibly 2 strikers. I am surprised that GB has not considered some of the strikers in Scotland, the prolific ones we read about scoring week after week and who seem to score a hatful season after season. They may not be the most gifted playing wise, but do seem to know where the goal is, and that is what we need now, surely its worth considering GB.

yeah but in fairness one of those strikers is stokes and look what he did for us in the championship bar one wondergoal!

Absolution
04-08-2010, 08:21 AM
How the hell can Hull afford a transfer fee? No doubt they will stick him on 20k a week wages.

I thought they hadn't been paid their parachute payments, as they owe money (probably to Fulham for Bullard).

cpfcben
04-08-2010, 08:25 AM
We cannot compete. Next target please.

Biggineagle
04-08-2010, 08:40 AM
But isnt he meeting GB today?? I think I read it somewhere on here, or maybe I am dreaming it.

SE25Eagle
04-08-2010, 08:42 AM
But isnt he meeting GB today?? I think I read it somewhere on here, or maybe I am dreaming it.

Someone posted yesterday that Sandown had said that GB was meeting him today

Clapham Grand
04-08-2010, 08:44 AM
would be a spectacluar signing

kettle
04-08-2010, 08:44 AM
How the hell can Hull afford a transfer fee? No doubt they will stick him on 20k a week wages.

I thought they hadn't been paid their parachute payments, as they owe money (probably to Fulham for Bullard).

Re: Hull and affording stuff, I think the way they position it, is that with wages removed from the wage bill from the likes of Giovanni and soon to be Bullard etc.etc. they will save £100-150K a week. Which gives them a bit more leeway in terms of buying power.

BulletEagle
04-08-2010, 08:45 AM
I mean, they've still got bloody Bullard and his wages on their books.

And long may it stay that way.

stinky
04-08-2010, 08:45 AM
would be a spectacluar signing


hint?

cockles
04-08-2010, 08:47 AM
How the hell can Hull afford a transfer fee? No doubt they will stick him on 20k a week wages.

I thought they hadn't been paid their parachute payments, as they owe money (probably to Fulham for Bullard).

You are correct.

I don't believe this report as it stands. Maybe Arsenal put this out to set a gambit for the fee they want.

dannyboy1807
04-08-2010, 08:49 AM
Hull can't afford 1.2 million apprently the Premier league have withheld the 9 million they get because they owe clubs money for players.

cdm61
04-08-2010, 08:56 AM
Hull can't afford 1.2 million apprently the Premier league have withheld the 9 million they get because they owe clubs money for players.

Dont they pay the clubs directly instead?

The Gerry Queen
04-08-2010, 09:04 AM
Dont they pay the clubs directly instead?

No. It's the same with us and the Football League. Transfer payemnts are made through the League body and that's how they apply a transfer embargo.

The Prem have said that Hull have to cough up for foriegn as well as UK Football debts. Hull weren't expecting to have to pay the foreign clubs yet ( or maybe at all ?) so this will eat up their first £9m due on Friday and could put their repayment plan for £4m due to HMRC in doubt as well. Hardly a time to be splashing out £1.2m on a new transfer you would have thought ?

ChristalPalace
04-08-2010, 09:05 AM
Re: Hull and affording stuff, I think the way they position it, is that with wages removed from the wage bill from the likes of Giovanni and soon to be Bullard etc.etc. they will save £100-150K a week. Which gives them a bit more leeway in terms of buying power.

They can't get rid of Bullard.

Their policy now is that if no-one signs him he'll just be paid £2m a year to do nothing. They don't want to play him because a) they have to pay him bonuses and b) they're scared he'll get injured again.

Absolution
04-08-2010, 09:05 AM
Re: Hull and affording stuff, I think the way they position it, is that with wages removed from the wage bill from the likes of Giovanni and soon to be Bullard etc.etc. they will save £100-150K a week. Which gives them a bit more leeway in terms of buying power.That is a fair point, but despite saving £100-100k a week, but if they are honestly paying almost the entire first team well over £10k a week each, then they will still be haemorrhaging money week on week.

God knows what they are paying James Harper and their other new signings.

The Bishop
04-08-2010, 09:08 AM
Signing one of either Simpson or Vokes would be a real coup. Getting them both would be absolutely fantastic.

cockles
04-08-2010, 09:29 AM
They can't get rid of Bullard.

Their policy now is that if no-one signs him he'll just be paid £2m a year to do nothing. They don't want to play him because a) they have to pay him bonuses and b) they're scared he'll get injured again.

True.....and he'd be injured within minutes against some teams in our league.

I believe they could not get any insurerer to cover him for injury either since he failed the medical when they signed him from Fulham.

rhynoeagle
04-08-2010, 09:34 AM
Not sure if this has been posted but SandownEagles said the prem don't want to loan out players this week as they lack the fitness.

Alan Lee vs Leicester it is :lux:

kettle
04-08-2010, 10:39 AM
That is a fair point, but despite saving £100-100k a week, but if they are honestly paying almost the entire first team well over £10k a week each, then they will still be haemorrhaging money week on week.

God knows what they are paying James Harper and their other new signings.

I know they will be haemorrhaging money left right and centre, but this is the way football works! See Portsmouth for example...

"we have to cut the wage bill - it's far too high. Get rid of 4 people on £50K a week, will save us £2.6m a year. Sign someone for 1.2m and pay them £10K a week = a saving of nearly 900K!"

It's completely bonkers, but Hull I am sure and others will somehow get round it. Sheff Wed are another example - they must have signed 7-8 players over the summer, but are meant to be on the edge themselves!

Ralph
04-08-2010, 10:59 AM
Sheff Wed are another example - they must have signed 7-8 players over the summer, but are meant to be on the edge themselves!


I guess a lot of clubs would argue that they could go in to Administration with debts of £10,000,000 or gamble for another 10 months, rack up debts of £15,000,000 and either go up and be safe or just go in to Administration. Either way the chances are you'll only be paying between 1p and 10p in the pound. It's probably worth the gamble. Jordan did it and although he personally lost CPFC has come out of it far brighter.

ChristalPalace
04-08-2010, 11:07 AM
I guess a lot of clubs would argue that they could go in to Administration with debts of £10,000,000 or gamble for another 10 months, rack up debts of £15,000,000 and either go up and be safe or just go in to Administration. Either way the chances are you'll only be paying between 1p and 10p in the pound. It's probably worth the gamble. Jordan did it and although he personally lost CPFC has come out of it far brighter.

So perhaps Lee Strafford and Paulo Sousa were right with their point about the penalties needing to be harsher, even if they were factually inaccurate in claiming we'd chosen administration as an easy option.

Ralph
04-08-2010, 11:13 AM
So perhaps Lee Strafford and Paulo Sousa were right with their point about the penalties needing to be harsher, even if they were factually inaccurate in claiming we'd chosen administration as an easy option.

Yes - the laws about football finances stink and are morally corrupt. But as Jordan also learnt [from the whole Bostock saga and even going back as far as Bruce] there are no morals in football and if you cant beat 'em....

Lords Eagle
04-08-2010, 11:17 AM
Not sure if this has been posted but SandownEagles said the prem don't want to loan out players this week as they lack the fitness.

Alan Lee vs Leicester it is :lux:

Are you saying the Premiership has made a collective decision here? Or is it a general feeling that they won't?

kolinkins
04-08-2010, 11:23 AM
Not sure how true it is either - Watt just went to Leeds. And there have been others.

Stavros 69
04-08-2010, 11:24 AM
If there is money on the table to sell him, we'll never get him. I'm sure Arsenal will live without him.

Jordan's Jacket
04-08-2010, 11:28 AM
Surely, being a London club must hold some leverage

jeffers1960
04-08-2010, 11:38 AM
Love this to happen ..but just cant see it going through...anyone around the training ground to confirm a sighting ?

Who Cares?
04-08-2010, 11:39 AM
Not sure if this has been posted but SandownEagles said the prem don't want to loan out players this week as they lack the fitness.

Alan Lee vs Leicester it is :lux:

I am not an expert by any means on Twitter but I did look at SE's page and I do not think it was him that said this but a contributor to the thread (and I might be totally wrong!!)

Riccardo
04-08-2010, 11:42 AM
Love this to happen ..but just cant see it going through...anyone around the training ground to confirm a sighting ?

Where is Dean Childs and his banners when you need him ?

Chris K
04-08-2010, 11:43 AM
Sandown has also said that there's lots going on at the Club today but 2010 have said not to Tweet anything (or whatever the hell its called) as they don't want it on the BBS! Bloody charming, after all we've done for them too :p :D

kolinkins
04-08-2010, 11:43 AM
What about HoL?

kolinkins
04-08-2010, 11:43 AM
But it sounds good, if that is the case.

Chris K
04-08-2010, 11:46 AM
didn't mention them, they probably see them as less significant :D

The12thman
04-08-2010, 01:56 PM
I am just keeping my fingers and toes crossed we get him on loan. This would be an awesome signing and the 'finisher' we need to compliment our other strikers like Alan Lee and Calvin Andrew.
He is the 10+ goals a season striker we need, but if the tabloids are correct we face competition from Bristol City, Hull and Millwall and I expect a couple of other clubs like QPR to be interested so we have our work cut out to get him.
All I can say is come on Jay join the revolution. You know it makes sense.
:p

Celestial Empire
04-08-2010, 02:25 PM
Sandown has also said that there's lots going on at the Club today but 2010 have said not to Tweet anything (or whatever the hell its called) as they don't want it on the BBS! Bloody charming, after all we've done for them too :p :D

Couple of sensitive negotiations ?
Surely we can keep schtum for a few days for the good of the club ?

webbo1990
04-08-2010, 02:34 PM
Couple of sensitive negotiations ?
Surely we can keep schtum for a few days for the good of the club ?
I'm sure we can.

I've just heard that Messi has been sighted in Copers Cope! Or was that there's now a mess in Copers Cope because of the torrential rain? Hmm...

kestoneagle
04-08-2010, 02:37 PM
Couple of sensitive negotiations ?
Surely we can keep schtum for a few days for the good of the club ?

Yep, order the engine room to go to maximum diving depth, put the sub on the bottom and adopt radio silence.

Gerry from Sussex
05-08-2010, 11:38 AM
I am just keeping my fingers and toes crossed we get him on loan. This would be an awesome signing and the 'finisher' we need to compliment our other strikers like Alan Lee and Calvin Andrew.
He is the 10+ goals a season striker we need, but if the tabloids are correct we face competition from Bristol City, Hull and Millwall and I expect a couple of other clubs like QPR to be interested so we have our work cut out to get him.
All I can say is come on Jay join the revolution. You know it makes sense.
:p

But Sir Steve looks like he is getting Michael Owen on loan so may not need Simpson as well. Where are Bristol C getting all this money from anyway?!

rhynoeagle
05-08-2010, 11:56 AM
But Sir Steve looks like he is getting Michael Owen on loan so may not need Simpson as well. Where are Bristol C getting all this money from anyway?!


Owen is 200% not going to Bristol, go to the Bristol Home Site and read the article. He cracks a few jokes as well.

Brizzle always seem to do well in the Market but never go anywhere. Their Chairman must be pretty loaded but i dont know what he does ?

the kooch
05-08-2010, 11:58 AM
It's all the farming and cider, loads of money in that biz.

The12thman
05-08-2010, 11:59 AM
But Sir Steve looks like he is getting Michael Owen on loan so may not need Simpson as well. Where are Bristol C getting all this money from anyway?!

If that's the case then it's good news for us. One less club competing for his signature!
IMO I am not sure if I believe the talk of Owen going to Bristol City. Man U probably wouldn't let him go, I doubt Owen wouldn't want to drop to the championship and wages may be an issue (although he is allegedly on a modest Premier wage of £20k a wk at Moan U with appearance and goal bonueses etc to boost this).
I am not sure where BCFC are getting their money from for this signing if true - that's even if they have loads of money. I think they have released a load of players and sold a couple. Not sure how many they have signed but perhaps they have lowered their monthly outgoings a significant amount to allow them some freedom in the transfer market.
Either way I personally would prefer Simpson to Owen in my Palace team. Might sound crazy but the loan fee would be significantly cheaper, wages would be cheaper, less injury prone, he is a young talent eager to achieve and make his name in football and I prefer to give a player like that a go. Sometimes getting a big name player doesn't just bring great things in with it but it disrupts the harmony of a changing room.

Gerry from Sussex
05-08-2010, 12:06 PM
They signed James as well - he must be on pretty high wages

Chris K
05-08-2010, 12:08 PM
Couple of sensitive negotiations ?
Surely we can keep schtum for a few days for the good of the club ?

slight bit of wooooosh there, although not too major :p

Whyteleafe_Sage
05-08-2010, 12:43 PM
They signed James as well - he must be on pretty high wages

And Vokes on loan - just announced...

Celestial Empire
05-08-2010, 01:39 PM
slight bit of wooooosh there, although not too major :p

Yeah, I know you were "tongue in cheek" like, but thought it was worth repeating.:)

According to our Bristol poster Ooya (or whatever), the City owner is a very rich house-builder/property developer.

PALACE_FOR_LIFE
05-08-2010, 02:11 PM
Sandown has also said that there's lots going on at the Club today but 2010 have said not to Tweet anything (or whatever the hell its called) as they don't want it on the BBS! Bloody charming, after all we've done for them too :p :D
My thread got the whole rumour of nile ranger GOING!!

doodledandy
05-08-2010, 04:53 PM
Surely, being a London club must hold some leverage

Yep. Overpriced property, high cost of living, sever traffic chaos, high property tax, dodgy main stand, warm beer, plastic burgers, to name but a few! very appealing :D

PALACE_FOR_LIFE
05-08-2010, 04:55 PM
Yep. Overpriced property, high cost of living, sever traffic chaos, high property tax, dodgy main stand, warm beer, plastic burgers, to name but a few! very appealing :D
Oi twat, Simpson lives in london and is still very young, doubt he'll want ot move out of london?

doodledandy
05-08-2010, 04:55 PM
And Vokes on loan - just announced...

Where?

CPFC2010ANDON
05-08-2010, 05:08 PM
Bristol City

thereichstuff
05-08-2010, 05:09 PM
Bristol CitySam volkes

rhynoeagle
05-08-2010, 05:10 PM
Oi twat, Simpson lives in london and is still very young, doubt he'll want ot move out of london?

STFU. He was joking around.

doodledandy
05-08-2010, 05:49 PM
Another gonna, but to fair to him, Bristol is only just over an hours drive from his home, whereas South Norwood is the wrong side of london for a quick trip.

http://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10327~2111665,00.html

SE25Eagle
05-08-2010, 06:16 PM
Another gonna, but to fair to him, Bristol is only just over an hours drive from his home, whereas South Norwood is the wrong side of london for a quick trip.

http://www.bcfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10327~2111665,00.html

He's blocked so many people on here he's a hour behind with the news :D :D he must be reading his own post's lmao.

rhynoeagle
05-08-2010, 06:17 PM
He's blocked so many people on here he's a hour behind with the news :D :D he must be reading his own post's lmao.

:D

JAS78
05-08-2010, 08:19 PM
Would be nice to announce Jay Simpson signing tomorrow, would be a nice ending to the week

c'mon Jay Simpson, you know it makes sense

hamge
05-08-2010, 10:07 PM
Leeds and Crystal Palace want to hijack Hull’s £1.3million move for Jay Simpson – after all THREE clubs agreed a fee.

The 21-year-old Arsenal striker will decide within the next 48 hours.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Arsenal-kid-Jay-Simpson-in-three-way-tug-of-war-between-Leeds-Hull-and-Crystal-Palace-article545641.html#ixzz0vluovldn

More Bull****?

SpikeyMatt
05-08-2010, 10:08 PM
A fee? We can't match that £1.3m, surely?

rhynoeagle
05-08-2010, 10:10 PM
Leeds and Crystal Palace want to hijack Hull’s £1.3million move for Jay Simpson – after all THREE clubs agreed a fee.

The 21-year-old Arsenal striker will decide within the next 48 hours.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Arsenal-kid-Jay-Simpson-in-three-way-tug-of-war-between-Leeds-Hull-and-Crystal-Palace-article545641.html#ixzz0vluovldn

More Bull****?


Please be true.

rhynoeagle
05-08-2010, 10:11 PM
A fee? We can't match that £1.3m, surely?


I reckon we have a fair bit to spend, its just we dont want to spend it. So maybe.

SpikeyMatt
05-08-2010, 10:12 PM
I reckon we have a fair bit to spend, its just we dont want to spend it. So maybe.

I'd imagine the only way we'd be able to afford such a substantial fee would be if Clyne's off.

Or the Daily Mirror are printing bullshit again.

EagleinOz
05-08-2010, 10:22 PM
Really getting bored of the Mirror

Heb 7:4
05-08-2010, 11:16 PM
The mirror really is the biggest pile of shit

Shipp Ahoy!
05-08-2010, 11:34 PM
I suspect if it comes down to a choice between us and the other two we won't have much of a chance :(

eagles #1
05-08-2010, 11:39 PM
Mirror :S:

Seaside Eagle
05-08-2010, 11:40 PM
I suspect if it comes down to a choice between us and the other two we won't have much of a chance :(

It's bollocks anyway, so it won't really matter.

But I agree; I can't imagine us being a better proposition for Simpson than Hull.

Would love it though :D

james powell
05-08-2010, 11:42 PM
A fee? We can't match that £1.3m, surely?
I'm not saying they would or even should put thay kind of money into the club but between all four of our new owners, I'm sure they'll be able to come up with 1.3 mill.
Long alone sold Churcill for 1.(something) Billion in 2003 and im sure Parish is a multimillionaire. Again, I'm not saying that I expect them to put that kind of money into the club but I am saying that between all of them I'm sure they'd be able to if needed.
Wages would probably be an issue too.

deftones_eagle
05-08-2010, 11:44 PM
If this was true it would be immense...but i suspect it's a load of horse shite.

The Vicar
06-08-2010, 01:52 AM
Hmmm...

in Parish and co. we trust.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Hull-given-transfer-embargo-as-Fulham-demand-Jimmy-Bullard-cash-article545729.html

gold76
06-08-2010, 05:59 AM
I'd have thought it would have been a long time till we spend £1 million plus on a player again.

As an aside, M'bargo's transfer to Hull doesn't bode well. If they can't bounce straight back this season, then surely admin beckons.

cockles
06-08-2010, 06:41 AM
Firstly, I moreso now think that the "bid" from Hull is a fabrication from the Arsenal media to attempt to get other clubs to "match" this bid. So if cpfc have bid, it'll be lower than that.

Also, from the rhetoric of Parish, I got the impression that a large value signing would be properly evaluated - unlike in the past. Nowhere did he rule out £1m+ signings.

There is a huge difference between (1) investing £1m+ in an asset which is certain to depreciate in value in the immediate future (i.e. 1st contract) - as with Kuqi.
and (2) investing £1m+ in an asset which can likely hold value if not increase it, as well as having a longer intrinsic worth (i.e. a 20 year old proven at our level).

Falco
06-08-2010, 06:48 AM
Firstly, I moreso now think that the "bid" from Hull is a fabrication from the Arsenal media to attempt to get other clubs to "match" this bid. So if cpfc have bid, it'll be lower than that.

Also, from the rhetoric of Parish, I got the impression that a large value signing would be properly evaluated - unlike in the past. Nowhere did he rule out £1m+ signings.

There is a huge difference between (1) investing £1m+ in an asset which is certain to depreciate in value in the immediate future (i.e. 1st contract) - as with Kuqi.
and (2) investing £1m+ in an asset which can likely hold value if not increase it, as well as having a longer intrinsic worth (i.e. a 20 year old proven at our level).

Absolutely: it would be a sensible policy (a la Ron Noades) to be prepared to pay for young players who may have a re-sale value. Albeit it is still highly risky. I'm happy for us to never pay a fee for a player again, but could understand the owners' logic in thinking that Palace have a good record of developing young, unproven strikers into marketable assets.

Of course, were we to do such a thing (and I don't think its likely), no-one on here should complain when we do come to sell the player ...

Garfy
06-08-2010, 06:52 AM
As has been mentioned before we may, in due course, be grateful that we were at the front of the queue for administration because I suspect numerous clubs, across the Football League, will suffer similar this season.

cockles
06-08-2010, 06:57 AM
As has been mentioned before we may, in due course, be grateful that we were at the front of the queue for administration because I suspect numerous clubs, across the Football League, will suffer similar this season.

Yes, in retrospect - one could say Agilo did us a favour. And that's already on another thread....

Garfy
06-08-2010, 07:28 AM
Yes, in retrospect - one could say Agilo did us a favour. And that's already on another thread....

I wouldn't call it a favour but it's good to have it behind us!

Scoot
06-08-2010, 07:36 AM
I'm not saying they would or even should put thay kind of money into the club but between all four of our new owners, I'm sure they'll be able to come up with 1.3 mill.
Long alone sold Churcill for 1.(something) Billion in 2003 and im sure Parish is a multimillionaire. .

LOL You really should read things carefully. RBS (spit scum) bought the business for that much, mr. long DID not sell it for that much,

elgin eagle
06-08-2010, 07:49 AM
Firstly, I moreso now think that the "bid" from Hull is a fabrication from the Arsenal media to attempt to get other clubs to "match" this bid. So if cpfc have bid, it'll be lower than that.

Also, from the rhetoric of Parish, I got the impression that a large value signing would be properly evaluated - unlike in the past. Nowhere did he rule out £1m+ signings.

There is a huge difference between (1) investing £1m+ in an asset which is certain to depreciate in value in the immediate future (i.e. 1st contract) - as with Kuqi.
and (2) investing £1m+ in an asset which can likely hold value if not increase it, as well as having a longer intrinsic worth (i.e. a 20 year old proven at our level).

^
spending a total of 1.4 million to rebuild a team with quality players is still very good business, unless we can find a better young striker on a free, which is doubtful at this late stage.

james powell
06-08-2010, 07:50 AM
LOL You really should read things carefully. RBS (spit scum) bought the business for that much, mr. long DID not sell it for that much,
From a 'This is London' article: Parish is the frontman. He has made his money from his marketing company, Tag:Worldwide, and is co-chairman along with Martin Long, who set up Churchill Insurance before selling it to the Royal Bank of Scotland for more than £1.1billion in 2003.

That's where I got that info from. To me that reads that Long sold it for 1.1 billion. I am EVER so sorry if I'm wrong.

HARRY MONK
06-08-2010, 08:39 AM
spending a million on a young promosing english forward is a great bit of business , if he developes and even equals his goalscoring record at championship /lower level and league cup football his value will only go one way

Bounty_Killa
06-08-2010, 08:42 AM
spending a million on a young promosing english forward is a great bit of business , if he developes and even equals his goalscoring record at championship /lower level and league cup football his value will only go one way

Yes but... it ain't gonna be us that spends the million pounds to get him ;)

Should we not just move on and leave the beta blockers in the medicine cabinet lol

thehalifaxman
06-08-2010, 08:43 AM
From a 'This is London' article:
That's where I got that info from. To me that reads that Long sold it for 1.1 billion. I am EVER so sorry if I'm wrong.

You are wrong but the article does read to suggest what you said to be true. I don't think he owned the whole company outright when it was sold

Scoot
06-08-2010, 09:35 AM
From a 'This is London' article:
That's where I got that info from. To me that reads that Long sold it for 1.1 billion. I am EVER so sorry if I'm wrong.


Bless.. dont be after all ThisisLondon used to be run by the Evening Echo (or is it still??)

GreatGonzo
06-08-2010, 09:36 AM
Agreed a fee of £1.3m would also not mean we are paying £1.3m, we may be paying £500k, another £250k if we stay up, £250k if we are promoted and £300k linked to apeparances. Thats if the total deal is as high as £1.3m.

Anyway him and Sinclair, apparently going for £1.5m, we should hijack both and have some fun attacking teams this season :D

Brod
06-08-2010, 09:51 AM
^ That would be a dream.

But quite a gamble. £1.5m a piece or is it a BOGOF type deal?

Sorry, just re-read it. £1.3m for Jay and £1.5m for Sinclair. But it would be fun. Sinclair plays wide left, doesn't he? Or right? I forget... It's age, you know.

Alderman
06-08-2010, 10:01 AM
Absolutely: it would be a sensible policy (a la Ron Noades) to be prepared to pay for young players who may have a re-sale value. Albeit it is still highly risky. I'm happy for us to never pay a fee for a player again, but could understand the owners' logic in thinking that Palace have a good record of developing young, unproven strikers into marketable assets.

Of course, were we to do such a thing (and I don't think its likely), no-one on here should complain when we do come to sell the player ...
I can recall having a conversation with a Palace Director (can't remember his name) when we paid 1 million for Martyn.He said that they only allowed Coppell to sign him as we could sell on for a profit,as he was young,if we were relegated.

rhynoeagle
06-08-2010, 10:06 AM
I doubt we are in for him. But the mirror did get our Garvan fiasco right so heres hoping.

The Bishop
06-08-2010, 10:10 AM
I doubt we are in for him. But the mirror did get our Garvan fiasco right so heres hoping.

Sandowneagle (who is a reliable poster) confirmed the other day that GB was speaking to Arsenal on Wednesday about Jay Simpson.

rhynoeagle
06-08-2010, 10:14 AM
Sandowneagle (who is a reliable poster) confirmed the other day that GB was speaking to Arsenal on Wednesday about Jay Simpson.


I know, but i mean on a permenant basis. - I'm sure he was talking about a loan deal. I hope it is permenant though, that'd be great for the club and shows how much we've moved on.

m_reid
06-08-2010, 10:16 AM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_6297297,00.html

Jay Simpson is in talks with a couple of Championship clubs, his agent has confirmed to skysports.com.

The Arsenal forward spent last season on loan at Queens Park Rangers and impressed with 12 goals.

Now a number of clubs are looking to land him, including Leeds, Hull City, Crystal Palace and QPR.

Skysports.com understands that it is Leeds and Hull who are leading the chase, and Simpson could be set to make a decision before the weekend.

"I can confirm a couple of clubs have agreed a deal with Arsenal and we are now in talks with them," his advisor Uben Gray told skysports.com.

Sources in the capital suggest Arsenal have agreed a deal of around £1.2million for Simpson - who has featured three times for the Gunners, scoring twice.

glaziers fan
06-08-2010, 10:17 AM
Absolutely: it would be a sensible policy (a la Ron Noades) to be prepared to pay for young players who may have a re-sale value. Albeit it is still highly risky. I'm happy for us to never pay a fee for a player again, but could understand the owners' logic in thinking that Palace have a good record of developing young, unproven strikers into marketable assets.

Of course, were we to do such a thing (and I don't think its likely), no-one on here should complain when we do come to sell the player ...

This was how SJ almost ruined the club. £2m for Kuqi. Massive wages for the likes of Kennedy. Depreciating assets not worth the money at the beginning!
If we'd spent £1.5m on a Sinclair or a Simpson it would have been money well spent.

rhynoeagle
06-08-2010, 10:19 AM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_6297297,00.html

Jay Simpson is in talks with a couple of Championship clubs, his agent has confirmed to skysports.com.

The Arsenal forward spent last season on loan at Queens Park Rangers and impressed with 12 goals.

Now a number of clubs are looking to land him, including Leeds, Hull City, Crystal Palace and QPR.

Skysports.com understands that it is Leeds and Hull who are leading the chase, and Simpson could be set to make a decision before the weekend.

"I can confirm a couple of clubs have agreed a deal with Arsenal and we are now in talks with them," his advisor Uben Gray told skysports.com.

Sources in the capital suggest Arsenal have agreed a deal of around £1.2million for Simpson - who has featured three times for the Gunners, scoring twice.

Good theres some info, but it doesnt sound like we're going to get him :(

CPFC_Mad
06-08-2010, 10:22 AM
So my source has confirmed. He wants to stay in London so he is very keen on coming to us. He is exactly what we need and would be a great addition and will compliment Lee.

Fingers crossed we can pull this one off.

Woosie
06-08-2010, 10:24 AM
So my source has confirmed. He wants to stay in London so he is very keen on coming to us. He is exactly what we need and would be a great addition and will compliment Lee.

Fingers crossed we can pull this one off.

Weren't you wrong every other time you said something was going to happen?

rhynoeagle
06-08-2010, 10:26 AM
So my source has confirmed. He wants to stay in London so he is very keen on coming to us. He is exactly what we need and would be a great addition and will compliment Lee.

Fingers crossed we can pull this one off.


I dont care what your rep suggests. If we have put in a bid i wouldnt be suprised if he comes as we are London.

Selhurst Celtic
06-08-2010, 10:27 AM
So my source has confirmed. He wants to stay in London so he is very keen on coming to us. He is exactly what we need and would be a great addition and will compliment Lee.

Fingers crossed we can pull this one off.

Is it 'nailed on' like you said Ambrose going to QPR was, you dribbling prat?

PauLo
06-08-2010, 10:28 AM
According to him, Ambrose going to QPR was 'nailed on'. About as reliable as ol' 'arry.

Sir.S.C Remembered
06-08-2010, 10:33 AM
Long got about £90m when he sold up. The article is indeed very misleading.

As for signing Simpson for a fee, I would only be happy if it was broken down something like GreatGonzo has said. Although he has been around for a few years at WBA and QPRhahahah I don't think it can be said we would have watched him play in a scouting capacity anywhere near enough to spend that kind of money outright. He is still a gable at his age too as many players look good for Arsenal and then end up at Hemel Hemstead etc! So a low upfront fee would be well worth it.

He is the kind of player we are after though, although with a slightly better goal record of course, but importantly he is young but not too young to not make an instant impact. Is real potential for a few million down the line

The Bishop
06-08-2010, 10:41 AM
Would be very suprised if this were to happen. Sandowneagle has already indicated that we're going to sign Danny Rose (on loan) the week after next. A player who, like Simpson, is a left-sided forward/winger.

Simpson will more than likely chose either Leeds or QPR. Probaly the latter.

CallMeBernard
06-08-2010, 10:41 AM
And he's good with kids.

m355y
06-08-2010, 10:41 AM
Leeds board convinced through the usual dubious 'inside sources' bollocks that it's Leeds and Hull who've had offers accepted by Arsenal, now the player's in talks with both clubs.

Thing is, if he doesn't want to move up north that could be a sticking point for both.

Oh yeah, and people on the Leeds board are always either totally wrong, bullshitting or both.

pardew's shorts
06-08-2010, 10:43 AM
If Hull have bid £1m plus for anyone, they are really, really, really stupid.

CPFC_DAVE77
06-08-2010, 10:44 AM
you dribbling prat?

:D

hoskingt
06-08-2010, 10:45 AM
If Hull have bid £1m plus for anyone, they are really, really, really stupid.


Yeah i'm confused as to how they are still spending money when i got the idea they were close to administration a few weeks back.

rhynoeagle
06-08-2010, 10:46 AM
Yeah, the article does only say a couple. I really doubt we will put a 1 million offer anyone until next year.

hamge
06-08-2010, 10:48 AM
We can't compete with Hull, Leeds and Q.P.R so he won't come here which is a shame.

stevek
06-08-2010, 10:49 AM
Oh yeah, and people on the Leeds board are always either totally wrong, bullshitting or both.Thank God the BBS isn't like that.


oh...

NateEagle
06-08-2010, 10:51 AM
I would suggest that if QPR have put in a successful bid he will be there this season...loads of money for wages, London-based and he has played there last season with success and thus probably a fans favourite.

Personally I have my doubts as to whether we would actually bid 1mill for a player whereas id totally expect it from the idiots at Hull, and also Leeds, who seem to have the backing financially...though not telling anyone who they are! So i doubt we are in for him and at 1mill, Im quite pleased. Desperation to sign someone leads to signings like Kuqi...i.e. over-priced gamble

CPFC_DAVE77
06-08-2010, 10:52 AM
We can't compete with Hull,

For now. As has been mentioend on here bids in excess of 1mill in their current climate is short sighted and, unless they bounce straight back up which seems highly unlikely, could prove completely suicidle.

Scoot
06-08-2010, 10:54 AM
We can't compete with Hull, Leeds and Q.P.R so he won't come here which is a shame.

Shame cos I beleive that on the pitch we can and will.

hamge
06-08-2010, 10:55 AM
Shame cos I beleive that on the pitch we can and will.

Agree with that but money wise we just can't.

AJ's right boot
06-08-2010, 10:56 AM
^ That would be a dream.

But quite a gamble.
No more gambles please, no more 31/05's ever again please :(

The Gerry Queen
06-08-2010, 10:59 AM
We can't compete with Hull, Leeds and Q.P.R so he won't come here which is a shame.

Leeds are not flush by any means and the only competition Hull will be having is with HMRC and the High Court if they intent to continue living so far beyond their means. QPR we know all about and he was on loan there last season but surely they would have moved for him before now or are the rumours about Briatore sticking his oar in again ? They have recently signed Taarbt for £1m but that may be the limit of Warnock's kitty.

GreatGonzo
06-08-2010, 11:09 AM
Agree with that but money wise we just can't.

Can't we?

You sure?

Truth is none of us know if we can or will.

We may all doubt that we can compete with them and therefore doubt he will come but it is a possibility that we can compete in the transfer market with these teams IF 2010 so wish.

cockles
06-08-2010, 11:14 AM
So my source has confirmed. He wants to stay in London so he is very keen on coming to us. He is exactly what we need and would be a great addition and will compliment Lee.

Fingers crossed we can pull this one off.

He might be right this time.....


When he says "us" he means QPR.

SE25Eagle
06-08-2010, 11:14 AM
I can't be arsed to read this whole thread, have we really bid £1m for Simpson..?

PauLo
06-08-2010, 11:15 AM
Not as far as anyone knows, no.

SE25Eagle
06-08-2010, 11:16 AM
Not as far as anyone knows, no.

So if we are after him, its just on loan..?

DaveP
06-08-2010, 11:19 AM
The rumours and whispers are starting to gather pace now and the word is that yes we might actually be the ones that Jay Simpson joins.

I will be over the moon if he does!!!

rhynoeagle
06-08-2010, 11:20 AM
The rumours and whispers are starting to gather pace now and the word is that yes we might actually be the ones that Jay Simpson joins.

I will be over the moon if he does!!!

Where are you hearing this ?

I would love him at Palace :lux:

stinky
06-08-2010, 11:23 AM
CG

SE

These are the only two people I will believe.

rhynoeagle
06-08-2010, 11:24 AM
CG

SE

These are the only two people I will believe.

SE seems buttoned up about it..

prizesucker
06-08-2010, 11:36 AM
I believe DaveP :)

Big Blue Eagle
06-08-2010, 11:37 AM
I believe DaveP :)

I agree - DaveP is usually "in the loop"

hamge
06-08-2010, 11:38 AM
The one thing we can offer that the others can't is that he will be in my opinion our number 1 striker.

Adlerhorst
06-08-2010, 11:40 AM
I can't be arsed to read this whole thread, have we really bid £1m for Simpson..?No idea.

Am surprised if we have, but not too worried. We ought to be able to recover if the need ever arises and plenty of upside. Better this than £1m on someone in their late twenties / early thirties with little upside and no resale value.

FraserH
06-08-2010, 11:40 AM
The one thing we can offer that the others can't is that he will be in my opinion our number 1 striker.

i think he would be at leeds, alongside becchio, now beckford is a toffee

hamge
06-08-2010, 11:41 AM
i think he would be at leeds, alongside becchio, now beckford is a toffee

Forgot Beckford had left them.

rhynoeagle
06-08-2010, 11:42 AM
CPFC2010 will only do something for the profit/benefit of the club, and by "Signing" him for 1 million now looks better for the present and future (Larger resale - if we dont get to the prem in however many years), So I do now think we are in for him :D

jeffers1960
06-08-2010, 11:42 AM
Leeds signed Paynter from Swindon

Brod
06-08-2010, 11:42 AM
No more gambles please, no more 31/05's ever again please :(

My bad.

Not a gamble, but a risk.

A different sort of risk from the Juqi/Scowcroft/Kennedy type as they had no sell-on. I'm fairly sure Jay & Sinclair would have sell on value - they're young and still learning. If we got them, factored in a loss of 50% on transfer fees on each, we'd might have good chance on making a profit or at least breaking even. The down side is £2.8m plus wages, the upside, best case scenario, is potentially £5/6m profit on each. Unlikely, but look at what we got for AJ.

I think Jay certainly worth a flutter if the finances will cover it. And none of us really, truly know what CPFC 2010 are willing to invest in the team. Maybe GB's been canny enough to have kept a large part of his budget back?

Friskey
06-08-2010, 11:44 AM
They've accepted two bids from Hull and Leeds. I'll be amazed if we have matched the bids they've put in.

Big Blue Eagle
06-08-2010, 11:46 AM
They've accepted two bids from Hull and Leeds. I'll be amazed if we have matched the bids they've put in.

That is what "Sky Sports believes" - no evidence. And as said elsewhere, the idea of Hull forking out serious cash while Bullard is around.

DaveP
06-08-2010, 11:47 AM
Let me clear something up here too, when CPFC2010 took over the club and held their press conference they said they wouldn't be spending millions of pounds on ageing players with past glories and high wages which is something we had done in the past, Kuqi, Scowcroft, Macken etc, and that they would be looking to youth and if they were to spend xxx amount on a player there would have to be good reason to do so.

In this case i feel CPFC2010 see value for money in a purchase for Jay Simpson who is a player that can still get better and better and should in my view get value for money especially if sold on at a later date.

We do have a finanacially stable club now and there is money available but it will just be spent very wisely.

cpfcben
06-08-2010, 11:50 AM
Not sure we can offer the same wages.

Sir.S.C Remembered
06-08-2010, 12:03 PM
Let me clear something up here too, when CPFC2010 took over the club and held their press conference they said they wouldn't be spending millions of pounds on ageing players with past glories and high wages which is something we had done in the past, Kuqi, Scowcroft, Macken etc, and that they would be looking to youth and if they were to spend xxx amount on a player there would have to be good reason to do so.

In this case i feel CPFC2010 see value for money in a purchase for Jay Simpson who is a player that can still get better and better and should in my view get value for money especially if sold on at a later date.

We do have a finanacially stable club now and there is money available but it will just be spent very wisely.

They did also stress they would look to not pay fees generally due to the value in the free transfer market, although nominal fees would be possible. They said £1m+ transfers have hardly ever worked out for Palace and if such signings were to be made we would have to have scouted them for a long time to reduce the risk as well as only purchasing players with a good sell on value