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ItalianEagle
16-07-2010, 06:19 PM
Italian Sky Sport 24 just reported that midfielder Davide Baiocco is on trial at Palace

Imho, he could be a decent addition to the squad, but just for free and not in the starting line-up.

Davide Baiocco Profile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davide_Baiocco)

Nelson Muntz
16-07-2010, 06:21 PM
His goalscoring record suggests he's a holding midfielder?

ItalianEagle
16-07-2010, 06:23 PM
he's very similar to Danns

ChristalPalace
16-07-2010, 06:23 PM
The 0 (0) for his time at Brescia is out of date. If you click on the Italian version (bottom left of Wikipedia), he played 38 games this season, scoring once.

Jim Cannon
16-07-2010, 06:23 PM
well according to wiki he's 35

dannyboy1807
16-07-2010, 06:24 PM
He is 35 years old

ItalianEagle
16-07-2010, 06:28 PM
yes, not a young prospect... But I think he can play 20-25 games this season, he has a good experience

andy m
16-07-2010, 06:28 PM
Italian football is well suited to the older player. Not convinced the Championship is.

Still, in George we trust and all that.

jobiinthelastmi
16-07-2010, 06:29 PM
Wow I can hear his knee's creaking from here!

:eek: :eek:

Still not the World cup trialist though....

Stigma
16-07-2010, 06:57 PM
35 year old Italian that have never played outside Italy..seems like a strange player to give a trial.

brooklynlou
16-07-2010, 07:00 PM
Is there another Palace? Maybe some second tier Italian team?

The Bishop
16-07-2010, 07:10 PM
35 year old defensive midfielder.

Brett
16-07-2010, 07:20 PM
I recall him being quite useful in his pomp but 35 may be pushing it now to fit into the hustle and bustle of the Championship.

Kipungu
16-07-2010, 07:22 PM
He may have Paulo Maldini type vitality. Wouldnt rule him out yet!

kolinkins
16-07-2010, 07:29 PM
How old was Idiakiz (sp) when Burley had him?

joyce the voice
16-07-2010, 07:43 PM
Is there another Palace? Maybe some second tier Italian team?
LOL. Football is so strange these days--how on earth could Palace have such an extensive scouting network that they would know who to chose among all the aging Italian players, let alone all the rest of Europe. With all the language problems/relocation etc it seems crazy to sign such players, but I suppose it works more often than not.

Thedane
16-07-2010, 07:44 PM
"Kolinkins: How old was Idiakiz (sp) when Burley had him?"

32-34

Davide Baiocco could still be worth a go though

917L
16-07-2010, 07:51 PM
"Kolinkins: How old was Idiakiz (sp) when Burley had him?"

32-34

Davide Baiocco could still be worth a go though

He originally signed him for Derby when he was 30

bradpitt
16-07-2010, 08:02 PM
He sounds dubious

chatham_eagle
16-07-2010, 08:17 PM
Is there another Palace? Maybe some second tier Italian team?

Baltimore?
You never know :D

gold76
16-07-2010, 09:16 PM
He may be good for a season, in a holding role, with Danns & Dorman acting as his "legs". No harm in a trial, looks like he has a good pedigree

andy m
16-07-2010, 09:37 PM
I bet the chain of "contacts" between someone at Palace and a 35 year old Brescia midfielder contains some interesting names.

Sometimes I'd really like to know who rang who rang who to say either "I need an experienced Italian, know anyone" or "any chance you can wangle me a couple of years in London".

Bizarre.

cranesparkeagle
16-07-2010, 09:47 PM
we wont be launching it from back to front if this guy is playing. Burley seems to like his 30+ers

the kooch
16-07-2010, 09:51 PM
http://www.cpfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/76/1/0,,10323~3473782,00.jpg

http://img.skysports.com/08/11/218x298/DavideBaiocco_1454974.jpg

a9lpc
16-07-2010, 10:00 PM
"A product of the Perugia youth system, he transferred to Juventus in January 2002 for 7.2 million euros"

bloomin ell

hamge
16-07-2010, 10:01 PM
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/catania/?action=read&idnet=aXRhc3BvcnRwcmVzcy5pdC0zMDYzNQ

Confirms he is here.

a9lpc
16-07-2010, 10:03 PM
he just likes red and blue...

PalaceSince2004
16-07-2010, 10:07 PM
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/catania/?action=read&idnet=aXRhc3BvcnRwcmVzcy5pdC0zMDYzNQ

Confirms he is here.

According to that article, he is only here for a trail and that he is commited to his club only

andy m
16-07-2010, 10:08 PM
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/catania/?action=read&idnet=aXRhc3BvcnRwcmVzcy5pdC0zMDYzNQ

Confirms he is here.

But still under contract to Brescia and they remain his priority.

Weirder and weirder.

hamge
16-07-2010, 10:11 PM
Strange. He is on the worst Juventus XI

the kooch
16-07-2010, 10:13 PM
So is he on trial just to play against Chelsea, then he'll bail?

hamge
16-07-2010, 10:15 PM
I think he is doing it to see if Chelsea offer him a contract?

jobiinthelastmi
16-07-2010, 10:16 PM
I think he is doing it to see if Chelsea offer him a contract?


30+ player at Chelsea? Never :hi:

fa4ab
16-07-2010, 10:30 PM
I love the fact no one on this board has probably ever seen him play but are happy to pass judgement. We could give him 90 minutes and then make a decision??

The Addonians
16-07-2010, 10:30 PM
http://www.cpfc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/76/1/0,,10323~3473782,00.jpg

http://img.skysports.com/08/11/218x298/DavideBaiocco_1454974.jpg

I think i bought the big issue from him at tesco's last week

hamge
16-07-2010, 10:32 PM
I love the fact no one on this board has probably ever seen him play but are happy to pass judgement. We could give him 90 minutes and then make a decision??

I not saying we shouldn't but his wages will be high.

fa4ab
16-07-2010, 10:34 PM
Based on what?

hamge
16-07-2010, 10:35 PM
I just think he will be on 10k plus. Ex juve and all that.

fa4ab
16-07-2010, 10:41 PM
Half our ex juve plaers haven't been too bad

hamge
16-07-2010, 10:43 PM
Half our ex juve plaers haven't been too bad

Agreed but wages.

fa4ab
16-07-2010, 11:19 PM
Based on the players burley has had on trial, I don't believe he will be held to ransom on wages or taken advantage of on tranfer fees

LuckyJ
16-07-2010, 11:39 PM
LOL. Football is so strange these days--how on earth could Palace have such an extensive scouting network that they would know who to chose among all the aging Italian players, let alone all the rest of Europe. With all the language problems/relocation etc it seems crazy to sign such players, but I suppose it works more often than not.

i agree with you to an extent..., it is extraordinary! however...

if he's old news in italy then he may have expressed to an agent or contact that he wishes to play overseas in england and then his names been banded about amongst the championship and we've bitten and taken him on trial.... it says alot that he's on trial. i do like a foreigner tho...something intriguing and mystical about waiting to see what he'll be like!! haha pathetic.

SpikeyMatt
16-07-2010, 11:40 PM
http://img.skysports.com/08/11/218x298/DavideBaiocco_1454974.jpg

He looks like a cross between a kling-on and Robbie Savage.

Stellavista
16-07-2010, 11:45 PM
http://img.skysports.com/08/11/218x298/DavideBaiocco_1454974.jpg

F*ck me, it's Riff-Raff....

http://www.beempa.com/images/igor-riff-raff-rocky-horror.jpg

rhynoeagle
17-07-2010, 08:10 AM
Was once worth 7.8 million. As long as hes not on much i wouldnt mind taking him on board.

andy m
17-07-2010, 10:20 AM
The Juve things a bit odd as well. Paid over 7m euros for him, then loaned him out to three different clubs in three years and let him go on a free.

Fa4ab is right, we can't judge until we've seen him play, but there's a lot strange about this one.

hamge
17-07-2010, 10:29 AM
A loan? He has one year left on his contract.

http://www.bresciaoggi.it/stories/Home/167691_il_brescia_sale_a_storo_baiocco_vola_a_lond ra/

http://www.giornaledibrescia.it/sport/baiocco-va-a-giocare-in-inghilterra-1.384906

NateEagle
17-07-2010, 10:36 AM
Let's just c how he does hey...it's only a trial

alf
17-07-2010, 11:04 AM
If I recall, didn't T. Brolin look good for Palace until we signed him on a permanent basis and then if I'm right all went downhill very quickly :) .

CPFC_DAVE77
17-07-2010, 11:26 AM
Actually, if he was brought in to play the quarterback roll. I don't think being 35 is that big an issue. If he is fit enough, he will still be able to spray the ball around and keep the game ticking over while the likes of Ambrose Danns N'Diaye etc do the leg work. I know nothing about him, but don't jump on the age thing just yet.

brooklynlou
17-07-2010, 03:13 PM
Actually, he just played a nice 45 minutes. Still has some pace. gets stuck in. Nice ball control.

And yes, he does look like Riff Raff :)

Riley
17-07-2010, 03:42 PM
He looks like a cross between a kling-on and Robbie Savage.

Or alternatively... (http://brucemhood.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/zelda-1.jpg)

Bobby Dandruff
17-07-2010, 04:18 PM
Yes i thought he had a decent game worth another look i reckon.

MFC
17-07-2010, 04:45 PM
crystal palace site said he had a great game Davide Baiocoo we should sign him up now before a other clubs gets him.

PalaceFan in Alabama
17-07-2010, 04:49 PM
I agree with you

cpfcmazz
17-07-2010, 04:54 PM
Airrrrrrrr-Shotttttt!, apart from that I dont think from what I saw he would add anything to our squad.

hamge
17-07-2010, 04:54 PM
If that translator works he says: "Crystal Palace can offer me a two-year contract"

lewisham eagle
17-07-2010, 04:54 PM
Thought he played well bit like michael Hughes.

dannyboy1807
17-07-2010, 04:57 PM
Did his job simple passes protected the defence well overall a sound performance.

whereEaglesFly
17-07-2010, 05:00 PM
For such an old player he was everywhere, worth getting him on a year contract IMO

Godstone Eagle
17-07-2010, 05:02 PM
Was Very impressed with him, experienced and a coop head on him, passed the ball well.

Bobby Dandruff
17-07-2010, 05:05 PM
Thought he played well bit like michael Hughes.
I was thinking the same thing and we know how good he was for us.

prizesucker
17-07-2010, 05:06 PM
oozed class! He was terrific.

joe walker
17-07-2010, 05:18 PM
the airshot was not enough to blight a great performance, looked a cut above

lewisham eagle
17-07-2010, 05:27 PM
Does anyone else think it will come down to choice between him and the Slovenian can't see us signing 2 over 30 definsive mids.

rhynoeagle
17-07-2010, 05:29 PM
Sign him on a 1 year deal. Looked very good and encouraged the youngens.

Ruskin Old Boy
17-07-2010, 05:32 PM
Thought he had a good game, covered a lot of ground, an unfussy type of player.

kolinkins
17-07-2010, 05:35 PM
Really liked him. So so composed.

cpfc4evandeva
17-07-2010, 05:35 PM
I liked him.

Looked so comfortable with the ball at his feet.

Jammyknees
17-07-2010, 06:09 PM
I was impressed by the bloke. Plus with a face like that he could become cult status very quickly

jams1234
17-07-2010, 06:12 PM
He only ever lost the ball once, and that was with the fantastic airshot in front of the Holmesdale. Every time he got the ball he'd do something with it.

SpikeyMatt
17-07-2010, 06:13 PM
I liked him a lot. Didn't shirk a tackle and was very decent with the ball at his feet.

Big thumbs up from me.

BulletEagle
17-07-2010, 06:14 PM
Does anyone else think it will come down to choice between him and the Slovenian can't see us signing 2 over 30 definsive mids.

I saw him as more attacking, and they played in midfield together well today. Sign them both, don't bother with the left back. Didn't see enough of Morgan or Bridcutt.

BulletEagle
17-07-2010, 06:14 PM
Oh, and I absolutely ******* love him. The way he applauded us was brilliant at the end, he looked like he really wanted the contract, too.

hamge
17-07-2010, 06:17 PM
This is him?

http://d.yimg.com/i//ng/sp/eurosport/20100717/25/762853cab2e6150db2a0430680f03f9f.jpg

From what he said in the interview i think the club have offered him a two year contract.

jams1234
17-07-2010, 06:18 PM
What interview?

jams1234
17-07-2010, 06:19 PM
Oh, and I absolutely ******* love him. The way he applauded us was brilliant at the end, he looked like he really wanted the contract, too.
Somebody on the HF website brought up the fact that since he's from Italy, has been all his life, he probably has a proper good idea about the ultras and proper supporters. Think if he did sign he'd have a fantastic relationship.

hamge
17-07-2010, 06:20 PM
http://www.bresciaoggi.it/stories/Home/167691_il_brescia_sale_a_storo_baiocco_vola_a_lond ra/

The middle bit translates as:

"I thank the President for Corioni find everything you are giving me - says Baiocco England -. Crystal Palace can offer me a two-year contract: I make this friendly and Sunday I'll be in store with my companions of Brescia. I spoke with Iachini and let me be clear: if there are the conditions to go play in England, well, as long as this does not create problems to Brescia. If it is a good thing good for everyone goes through, otherwise I will remain happy playing with Brescia at the moment is my priority. No yellow that goes wrong I'll play against Chelsea, which I missed in his career. "

maxpower
17-07-2010, 06:20 PM
Yeh what interview?

maxpower
17-07-2010, 06:22 PM
So it seems he is still under contract but we can sign him on a free if they allow

Shipsisourking
17-07-2010, 06:23 PM
he was good, hope we can sign him for at least this season.

adrenalin john
17-07-2010, 06:27 PM
presumably they are happy to let him go otherwise why on earth would they let him train and play for a different team

Kai
17-07-2010, 06:31 PM
He was partly to blame for Essien's goal though. Didn't look behind him and they scored.

BulletEagle
17-07-2010, 06:33 PM
He was partly to blame for Essien's goal though. Didn't look behind him and they scored.

Not really fair, he wasn't marking him as he ran into the box, and happened to get closer to him as Chelsea scored.

Owngoal
17-07-2010, 06:44 PM
If hes as good as the last aging Italian I'd be happy. Take it from me the guy has class and can pass, some of our posters who did not like him must be too used to the silky moves of our ex captain.

AJ's right boot
17-07-2010, 06:47 PM
Needs to sort that barnet out, how can you be bald with long hair?! Its certainly an achievement!

ThisIsDoM
17-07-2010, 06:48 PM
I really hope we sign him.

LLCOOLSTEVE
17-07-2010, 06:58 PM
Are we sure it wasnt Paul Walsh?

Shipsisourking
17-07-2010, 07:25 PM
Are we sure it wasnt Paul Walsh?


a dwarf version of walsh. thought it was him at kick off.

Mad Raschic Ken
17-07-2010, 07:51 PM
I thought he looked very good and had a bit of the Ray Wilkins about him. If we do sign him I hope he lasts longer than Wilkins did!

lewisham eagle
17-07-2010, 07:54 PM
Not sure about offering him 2 years long contract for someone who is 35. Liked him today but if we wanted him should be 1 and see how that goes.

BulletEagle
17-07-2010, 07:55 PM
I say a year-on-year rolling contract?

bgh2172
17-07-2010, 08:07 PM
Yeah generally very good, although I thought he faded as each half went on. He also did have one calamitous moment when he was out wide on his own swung a boot at the ball to cross it, but completely missed and barrel rolled over!

Woodford Eagle
17-07-2010, 08:23 PM
I think for free, this wise old Italian will be a decent signing. Hes got a good touch, obviously likes to pass the ball and seems to have a bit of composure about him to. He may not be as hard as Derry in the tackle but he will definently help our team play more attractive football and the kids may learn something to. Worth a years contract for me.

joe walker
17-07-2010, 08:34 PM
I'll take him on a 1yr deal definitely.
The fact he's over here shows he's hungry enough to play and that this isn't just a look at a last payday jollyup.

Kirby
17-07-2010, 08:42 PM
The best of our trialists IMO.

If he fancies a 1 year deal, sign him up.

Kuqi32
17-07-2010, 08:44 PM
Really liked the look of him, bar his air kick! :p

Looked really confident on the ball, you could tell he was brought up to play that way of football; great close control, passing ability and desire.

I'd take him on a one year deal, he would do wonders with the young lads as well.

Richie
17-07-2010, 08:51 PM
Are we sure it wasnt Paul Walsh?

Surely it was Alan Whittle.... or am I showing my age?

Ogilvy
17-07-2010, 08:52 PM
Are we sure it wasnt Paul Walsh?

Neil Smilie and Peter Nicholas's love child more like

Seaside Eagle
17-07-2010, 08:53 PM
I'll take him on a 1yr deal definitely.
The fact he's over here shows he's hungry enough to play and that this isn't just a look at a last payday jollyup.


This.

He honestly looked very good. Agree with the other poster, he looks like he's been brought up to play the passing game.

Superb, sign him up.

Leopald Stotch
17-07-2010, 08:54 PM
Lets just hope that if we do offer him a contract, the club can find him a pair of shorts that fit in time for the opening game.

Gooders
17-07-2010, 09:10 PM
I thought that article on the Brescia site implied that if he wants a year he can get it there and is only over here trying to get two?

LLCOOLSTEVE
17-07-2010, 09:13 PM
Although he looked steady and is a bit of an exciting signing being Italian and signing for Juve for 7million etc I think we could do much better, 35 yrs old and unproven in English football, seems to have been a bit of a journey man in Italy too.

I say no thanks

Neil 154
17-07-2010, 09:19 PM
He's a class act. Amazing close control and dribbling. Apart from the air kick (which brought the biggest cheer of the match) he played a major part.

pauldrulez
17-07-2010, 09:20 PM
Sign him up.

If he can play like that against a Top team, he'll pass his way around the Championship with Dazza and Dannzy.

Dingle
17-07-2010, 09:28 PM
Was impressed with him. Could be a good signing.

Stellavista
17-07-2010, 10:42 PM
Liked him, but think he simply doesn't have the energy for our division.
I think he'd turn out to be a more of a Padavano than a Lombardo.

Ian Hart
17-07-2010, 10:48 PM
Liked him, but think he simply doesn't have the energy for our division.
I think he'd turn out to be a more of a Padavano than a Lombardo.

My view too. Lots of nice touches, and clearly has a football brain. But much of the game passed him by. And he was visibly huffing and puffing well before the hour mark. The pace of the game in the Championship, and the energy levels required, might well be beyond him.

kolinkins
17-07-2010, 10:51 PM
My view too. Lots of nice touches, and clearly has a football brain. But much of the game passed him by. And he was visibly huffing and puffing well before the hour mark. The pace of the game in the Championship, and the energy levels required, might well be beyond him.

It was a pre-season game. Fitness will come. He won't be playing about Mikel and Essien every week.

Think he could run the show for us - with Danns next to him, he won't have to do as much running as today in any case.

TOOPM
17-07-2010, 10:55 PM
My view too. Lots of nice touches, and clearly has a football brain. But much of the game passed him by. And he was visibly huffing and puffing well before the hour mark. The pace of the game in the Championship, and the energy levels required, might well be beyond him.

As others have pointed out, we have other players who can put in the hard yards around him such as Danns and N'Diaye, while he can sit in the hole and make things happen.

He may not play every minute of every game, but his control and general ball skills, not least the fact that he appeared to be near enough two footed, appeared to be above the level we usually see in the championship. In this respect, he could make a massive difference.

The Gerry Queen
17-07-2010, 10:59 PM
As others have pointed out, we have other players who can put in the hard yards around him such as Danns and N'Diaye, while he can sit in the hole and make things happen.

He may not play every minute of every game, but his control and general ball skills, not least the fact that he appeared to be near enough two footed, appeared to be above the level we usually see in the championship. In this respect, he could make a massive difference.

Absolutely. He will make a big impact if played the right way..... and if we can find him a pair of fitting shorts ... reminded me a bit of Ray Houghton, his play and the shorts.

Ian Hart
17-07-2010, 11:02 PM
It was a pre-season game. Fitness will come. He won't be playing about Mikel and Essien every week.



That's a very valid point. His fitness level might well improve as you say.

I certainly wouldn't want to write him off. I just have my doubts that he'll get into the game sufficiently, or find the amount of time on the ball that he's clearly accustomed to. Certainly has the touch and awareness though.

My other concern is that his inclusion would require Ambrose to play wide, as he did today. IMHO we don't get the most out of Ambrose in that role, but you couldn't have a centre midfield pairing of Ambrose and Baiocco.

kolinkins
17-07-2010, 11:08 PM
I don't think burley plans on using ambrose in the centre (at least not if we line up similar to today or in a 4-4-2).

The best of ambrose last year was wide (of a three up).

kolinkins
17-07-2010, 11:09 PM
Also his shirts were way too big

Who Cares?
17-07-2010, 11:11 PM
Clearly has a football brain and decent technique but my reservation is if he could adapt to/cope with the match schedule of 3 games in 8 days on a fairly regular basis in a what is a quite physically demanding league.

Sunny Fan
17-07-2010, 11:21 PM
Whittle meets Kember.
I liked him; would depend on what kind of contract we offer I guess, as with his age / possible fitness he might be a risk.

nottsunieagle
18-07-2010, 12:38 AM
In a friendly he had the time and it still looked like the game passed him by. He won't get the time in the league. Again, I say no thanks but if we did take him on i'd obviously will him to succeed.

nickkris
18-07-2010, 12:41 AM
Class act. Hope he signs.

<_tece_>
18-07-2010, 02:08 AM
Just to let you guys know that when Baiocco sprayed a ball wide to Wright marauding up from full back, Burley turned around to the bench and made an impressed look, uttering the words "good player."

Nth Kent Eagle
18-07-2010, 07:57 AM
They used to say that Ray Houghton when at Palace passed the ball to where his old Liverpool team mates would have been. Paul Stewart, Lombardo and to an extent Ben Watson also the ability to spray the ball around. This guy could offer us something similar.

Penstone Eagle
18-07-2010, 08:05 AM
I think we could do much better



Like who exactly ?

I think you are kidding yourself, players of such quality are few and far between, we certainly don't have or are unlikely to find anyone to match him let alone better him, 35 years old or not he would surely add something to our depleted squad.

Gooders
18-07-2010, 08:10 AM
Don't understand people saying the game passed him by - he made more interventions that the Slovenian (even though I slightly preferred the Slovenian) and never wasted the ball once. Despite being small and old he also held off a number of strong challenges from the likes of Mikel and came up with the ball.

On about 60 minutes, just before the air shot, he showed great speed and energy to win the ball and take it down the left wing.

Are you sure you aren't just expecting him to be old and tired looking - and therefore making it so?

7lombardo
18-07-2010, 08:12 AM
Thought he looked decent and intelligent

Twin of Droy
18-07-2010, 08:29 AM
Can I add another look alike to the long list.

Ralph Coates

spt1978
18-07-2010, 08:50 AM
Looks good but after yesterday im convinced that any funds we have should be spent on a striker.

gold76
18-07-2010, 08:54 AM
^

That will be the key one, for all the laudable attempts at getting the ball down & playing, we lack someone who will regularly stick one in the back of the net

cross_eyed_ed
18-07-2010, 08:54 AM
He was quality. Sign him up.

Jimmy Eagle
18-07-2010, 09:06 AM
Juventus paid 7 million for him a few years ago :eek:

rhynoeagle
18-07-2010, 09:08 AM
I read that he wants to come here for 2 years, i personally would love it if we signed him, but only on a 1 year deal. Then if hes still ok, test how his body treats him next preseason to judge whether to sign up for another year.

Class above yesterday.

Halfwayline
18-07-2010, 09:53 AM
He is listed on the web as 5' 7 1/2". He looked at least 2 inches shorter? Optical illusion? Baggy shirt?

ChristalPalace
18-07-2010, 10:05 AM
I thought he got involved and put himself about quite a bit, but a two-year deal? No thanks.

Penstone Eagle
18-07-2010, 10:28 AM
Looks good but after yesterday im convinced that any funds we have should be spent on a striker.

Very good point, just where are the goals going to come from. There were two good through balls to Calvin Andrew yesterday and he failed to latch onto either of them, sometimes you only get one or two chances in a game, they have to be taken.

LLCOOLSTEVE
18-07-2010, 11:27 AM
Like who exactly ?

I think you are kidding yourself, players of such quality are few and far between, we certainly don't have or are unlikely to find anyone to match him let alone better him, 35 years old or not he would surely add something to our depleted squad.


Like the Slovenian guy.

I think you are kidding yourself, he has been a journeyman in the Italian lower leagues and lesser teams, which will be a worse standard than our lower leagues over here.

Dont get me wrong, he had an ok game, didnt give the ball away much, got involved and done the simple things well, but you would expect that of ,ost 35 year olds who had played the game for years in Italy.

rhynoeagle
18-07-2010, 11:54 AM
Very good point, just where are the goals going to come from. There were two good through balls to Calvin Andrew yesterday and he failed to latch onto either of them, sometimes you only get one or two chances in a game, they have to be taken.

Exactly, i cant see how people are remotly excited about CA signing a new contract. We could get someone better on his wages.

dorkinglad
18-07-2010, 12:52 PM
I wouldn't get too hung up on his age. If he's good enough then he should be given further chances. You can't always go 'for potential' as by it's very definition you're saying that the player may not be good enough at the moment.

Experienced players of Baiocco's class are not often available at this level. He managed 37 league appearances for Brescia last season so fitness is not an issue. If the Palace management think he can adapt to the physical demands of the Championship he has to be worth a season long contract.

rhynoeagle
18-07-2010, 12:54 PM
I wouldn't get too hung up on his age. If he's good enough then he should be given further chances. You can't always go 'for potential' as by it's very definition you're saying that the player may not be good enough at the moment.

Experienced players of Baiocco's class are not often available at this level. He managed 37 league appearances for Brescia last season so fitness is not an issue. If the Palace management think he can adapt to the physical demands of the Championship he has to be worth a season long contract.

Exactly one of the best players i saw at Selhurst last year was Nobby Solano, hes also 35.

I think theres no harm in having 1 player of his age in the squad. He was really supportive to the youngsters too. I still think on a 1 year deal we should sign him up.

dorkinglad
18-07-2010, 12:58 PM
Career of DAVIDE BAIOCCO

He's played in Serie A for most of his career mainly for less fashionable clubs. There was a brief spell at Juventus who paid several million for him in 2002. A concern is that he doesn't appear to provide many direct goals.


STAGIONE SQUADRA SERIE PRESENZE GOAL
1998-1999 PERUGIA CALCIO A 1 -
11/1998 A.S. VITERBESE CALCIO C2 23 -
1999-2000 A.S. VITERBESE CALCIO C1 29 3
2000-2001 PERUGIA CALCIO A 31 1
2001-2002 PERUGIA CALCIO A 32 1
2002-2003 F.C. JUVENTUS A 7 -
01/2003 F.C. PIACENZA A 16 -
2003-2004 REGGINA CALCIO A 27 -
2004-2005 PERUGIA CALCIO B 33 2
2005-2006 CATANIA CALCIO B 36 -
2006-2007 CATANIA CALCIO A 33 -
2007-2008 CATANIA CALCIO A 33 1
2008-2009 CATANIA CALCIO A 20 1
2009-2010 BRESCIA CALCIO B 37

joshuah
18-07-2010, 02:07 PM
Like the Slovenian guy.

I think you are kidding yourself, he has been a journeyman in the Italian lower leagues and lesser teams, which will be a worse standard than our lower leagues over here.

Dont get me wrong, he had an ok game, didnt give the ball away much, got involved and done the simple things well, but you would expect that of ,ost 35 year olds who had played the game for years in Italy.

Played for Juve from 2002-2005
Played for Catania from 2005-2009

Hardly a Journey man.

stevek
18-07-2010, 02:12 PM
I thought he looked good: hope we sign him.

LLCOOLSTEVE
18-07-2010, 02:28 PM
Played for Juve from 2002-2005


Negative

Adlerhorst
18-07-2010, 02:30 PM
Quality Wikipedia entry

Baiocco, transferred to English Championship side Crystal Palace Eagles FC in July 2010 for a club record 73,000 fee having impressed Manager Craig Burley whilst on trial at the North London club.

At least our move north of the river will make it easier for me to get to games.

Brod
18-07-2010, 02:31 PM
I though he looked good on Chelscum TV.

Two years is a risk, though. One year, appearance linked deal and an option for a second year?

cpfcmazz
18-07-2010, 03:03 PM
He is listed on the web as 5' 7 1/2". He looked at least 2 inches shorter? Optical illusion? Baggy shirt?

Must have been the socks!

ben123
18-07-2010, 03:05 PM
on wiki he has signed a 1 yr deal today.

Duffle Coat
18-07-2010, 03:06 PM
Beware Italians at Palace. Okay, Lombardo but Padovano or the other guy who was injured the whole season. Mind you, he (forgotten his name) nearly got us out of a jam in his one game in the PL. I will reserve judgement on this guy, he might be good, then he might not.

ben123
18-07-2010, 03:08 PM
it says on wiki that he has signed a 1 yr deal today.:clown:

whereEaglesFly
18-07-2010, 03:10 PM
Beware Italians at Palace. Okay, Lombardo but Padovano or the other guy who was injured the whole season. Mind you, he (forgotten his name) nearly got us out of a jam in his one game in the PL. I will reserve judgement on this guy, he might be good, then he might not.
Ventola

BulletEagle
18-07-2010, 03:12 PM
Quality Wikipedia entry

Baiocco, transferred to English Championship side Crystal Palace Eagles FC in July 2010 for a club record 73,000 fee having impressed Manager Craig Burley whilst on trial at the North London club.

At least our move north of the river will make it easier for me to get to games.

Where could that fee have come from? Are we buying him for that? Is that his wages over the course of a year?

Duffle Coat
18-07-2010, 03:14 PM
Ventola
Yes, Nicola Ventola. He was injured the whole season, sadly, because he could have been a hero. He went mental after he scored that goal against Southampton. Then Crouch popped up with a flukey equaliser. :sob:

LLCOOLSTEVE
18-07-2010, 03:14 PM
Someone is messing around with the entry as it now says

Baiocco signed for Crystal Palace on the 18th July 2010 on a year deal which will keep him at the club until July 2011

917L
18-07-2010, 03:15 PM
Where could that fee have come from? Are we buying him for that? Is that his wages over the course of a year?

Its someones attempt at humour

917L
18-07-2010, 03:16 PM
Yes, Nicola Ventola. He was injured the whole season, sadly, because he could have been a hero. He went mental after he scored that goal against Southampton. Then Crouch popped up with a flukey equaliser. :sob:

Higginbotham, not Crouch

BulletEagle
18-07-2010, 03:17 PM
Someone is messing around with the entry as it now says

Baiocco signed for Crystal Palace on the 18th July 2010 on a year deal which will keep him at the club until July 2011

But maybe there is some truth in it? It isn't mucking around like people did when changing Palace's page to shit?

917L
18-07-2010, 03:18 PM
But maybe there is some truth in it? It isn't mucking around like people did when changing Palace's page to shit?

What naming our manager craig Burley and saying were from North London?

Of cousre its someone messing around

Ian Hart
18-07-2010, 03:21 PM
At least our move north of the river will make it easier for me to get to games.

It is north of the river to him.

North of the river Tiber.

unsensibleLiam
18-07-2010, 03:31 PM
Best player with an amazingly good sash shirt on yesterday.

The Lb was also good, didn't really notice the other trialist too much, but I was about 5 miles back from the pitch so hard to see them..

philsick
18-07-2010, 03:40 PM
Higginbotham, not Crouch

I always feel a pang of pain when i remember that goal.The equaliser at charlton was the last little knock of the nail into our coffin,but that late soton goal was the one that drove the nail in.:(

Grassboy
18-07-2010, 03:49 PM
Higginbotham, not Crouch

Crouch had been sent off by then hadn't he....and Le Saux contrived to get Sorondo sent off in the resulting chaos by running half the length of the pitch to jump on Gonzalo's back....and most people forget that Ventola went down easily under a challenge and tried to claim a free kick but play went on and they scored............not that I'm bitter or anything and have it all burnt on my memory :(

Cracking strike by Ventola for his goal though - what could have been eh!?

Sorry.........back on topic......

917L
18-07-2010, 03:51 PM
Crouch had been sent off by then hadn't he....and Le Saux contrived to get Sorondo sent off in the resulting chaos by running half the length of the pitch to jump on Gonzalo's back....and most people forget that Ventola went down easily under a challenge and tried to claim a free kick but play went on and they scored............not that I'm bitter or anything and have it all burnt on my memory :(

Cracking strike by Ventola for his goal though - what could have been eh!?

Sorry.........back on topic......

Spot on

bern5161
18-07-2010, 03:55 PM
Yes, Nicola Ventola. He was injured the whole season, sadly, because he could have been a hero. He went mental after he scored that goal against Southampton. Then Crouch popped up with a flukey equaliser. :sob:

one of my all time fave palace moments. the ventola goal nor freak boy's

Billy Rhino
18-07-2010, 06:35 PM
Just by the look of him I really wanted Baiocco to be good but I dont he was good enough.

Looked woeful unfit, which probably explained his air-kick, and his off the ball running/tracking etc was virtually non-existent. There is a very good reason Brescia are letting him go on a free and I feel this will be another "deadwood" signing like so many before....hope I'm wrong though.

Much prefered the Slovenian who looks a solid, classy DM.

jams1234
18-07-2010, 06:39 PM
Just by the look of him I really wanted Baiocco to be good but I dont he was good enough.

Looked woeful unfit, which probably explained his air-kick, and his off the ball running/tracking etc was virtually non-existent. There is a very good reason Brescia are letting him go on a free and I feel this will be another "deadwood" signing like so many before....hope I'm wrong though.

Much prefered the Slovenian who looks a solid, classy DM.
Perhaps, but as others have said, fitness will come.

What impressed me is that he always did something with the ball, and kept it. If it wasn't for that air-kick he'd have a 100% ball retention rate.

917L
18-07-2010, 06:43 PM
Just by the look of him I really wanted Baiocco to be good but I dont he was good enough.

Looked woeful unfit, which probably explained his air-kick, and his off the ball running/tracking etc was virtually non-existent. There is a very good reason Brescia are letting him go on a free and I feel this will be another "deadwood" signing like so many before....hope I'm wrong though.

.

This is completely untrue

He was excellent n the ball and made lots of good tackles alongside his passing

And his airshot was a matter of technique or judgelment, nothing to do with fitness

winston the dog
18-07-2010, 06:51 PM
This is completely untrue

He was excellent n the ball and made lots of good tackles alongside his passing

And his airshot was a matter of technique or judgelment, nothing to do with fitness


If it was down to technique then that's a bigger concern than fitness which could come back with training.

maxpower
18-07-2010, 06:56 PM
Baiocco unfit your surely having a laugh there. He was running everywhere, he made some of the younger players look unfit, hes reminded me of hughes middle of park running around everywhere and tackling and passing good

Celestial Empire
18-07-2010, 06:58 PM
Exactly one of the best players i saw at Selhurst last year was Nobby Solano, hes also 35.

I think theres no harm in having 1 player of his age in the squad. He was really supportive to the youngsters too. I still think on a 1 year deal we should sign him up.

The problem with that, is that he's looking for a two year deal at Palace. I believe he said, if it doesn't work out, no problem, 'cos Brescia have already offered a one year deal.

Penstone Eagle
18-07-2010, 06:58 PM
Just by the look of him I really wanted Baiocco to be good but I dont he was good enough.

Looked woeful unfit, which probably explained his air-kick, and his off the ball running/tracking etc was virtually non-existent. There is a very good reason Brescia are letting him go on a free and I feel this will be another "deadwood" signing like so many before....hope I'm wrong though.

Much prefered the Slovenian who looks a solid, classy DM.


Can't believe your comments, we are and almost weren't a Championship team and there has hardly been an abundance of craft and skill on show in our team for longer than I can remember.

He is a class above anything we've had or can hope to get at the moment, we should sign him.

Celestial Empire
18-07-2010, 07:01 PM
What naming our manager craig Burley and saying were from North London?

Of cousre its someone messing around

Probably the work of that Mirror journo bloke.:rolleyes:

LLCOOLSTEVE
18-07-2010, 07:02 PM
Just by the look of him I really wanted Baiocco to be good but I dont he was good enough.

Looked woeful unfit, which probably explained his air-kick, and his off the ball running/tracking etc was virtually non-existent. There is a very good reason Brescia are letting him go on a free and I feel this will be another "deadwood" signing like so many before....hope I'm wrong though.

Much prefered the Slovenian who looks a solid, classy DM.


agree 100%

917L
18-07-2010, 07:06 PM
If it was down to technique then that's a bigger concern than fitness which could come back with training.

Its not a concern of any sort, he took an airshot

Ive seen far better players than him do exactly the same thing dozens of times.

pistol
18-07-2010, 07:12 PM
Lots of people where asking at half time about the No 8 nobody seemed to know who he was,reminded me a bit of Nicky Chatterton,if the monies right , think he could be a useful asset

rhynoeagle
19-07-2010, 09:35 AM
agree 100%


You and Billy must of been watching a different game. He was the best player by a long long way. He played nearly every game for his team last year, it's obvious he's not unfit.

What it looked like was GB told him to hold infront of the Back 4 thats why he didnt go ball chasing and when he gets the ball, just spray it to the wings.

I can't see us signing him because a 2 year deal is silly, though i think it'll be a useful addition if he comes.

LLCOOLSTEVE
19-07-2010, 09:38 AM
Maybe I should have said agree 100% about the reasons we shouldn't sign him rather than his performance.... I said on the match thread he played well etc and never gave the ball away. I just don't think we should be signing him.

Owngoal
19-07-2010, 09:57 AM
Best midfielder for Palace in many a year, could be a modern day Bobby Kellard who took on Giles and Bremner single handed for Palace of old (see the Cloughie documentary and film on BBC last night). Only concern is will he be this good for two years as now 35? If yes it would be a no brainer.

Psychokiller
19-07-2010, 09:59 AM
Problem is, he was good in a meaningless pre-season friendly but how is he going to adjust to the rigours of the Championship? And he's only on trial with us because he wants a two year deal where his club will only give him one year - is he going to give a shit enough?

Voldo
19-07-2010, 10:11 AM
He looked like a crappier Mendieta.

I'd have him on the books for a year.

rhynoeagle
19-07-2010, 10:17 AM
Problem is, he was good in a meaningless pre-season friendly but how is he going to adjust to the rigours of the Championship? And he's only on trial with us because he wants a two year deal where his club will only give him one year - is he going to give a shit enough?

In reference to the is he going to care enough. I was watching him closely as he was once worth 7million (Not that that deal ever worked out for him) he was very level headed and giving all the youngens alot of support, i really like the look of him and he seems to command the players around him, his centre of gravitys low, hes tricky and hes got a good eye for a pass.

On a one year deal, i would say a 100% yes. But on a 2 year ? I dont know.

Maybe we should offer him a contract that lasts a season and the untill january 2012. :p

Stigma
19-07-2010, 10:29 AM
Maybe I should have said agree 100% about the reasons we shouldn't sign him rather than his performance.... I said on the match thread he played well etc and never gave the ball away. I just don't think we should be signing him.

Would you have wanted us to sign him if he was English?

Big Guns
19-07-2010, 10:35 AM
I would like to see him at Palace this season

zonin2000
19-07-2010, 10:38 AM
If it was down to technique then that's a bigger concern than fitness which could come back with training.
His airshot was a matter of sheer bad luck, his standing foot just caught the ball as he was about to hit it, it happens to the best players in the world!

eagle mart
19-07-2010, 10:39 AM
Only a fool would have said he wasn’t one of our classiest looking players against Chelsea. However, is it worth paying him if he is unable to play the majority of a 10 game haul in Jan/Feb time? then we have to buy someone else to help cover – could be expensive in the long run.

I guess Burley knows how good he is, but would rather know whether he could survive the rigours of a championship season, the games come thick and fast, before signing him up.

rhynoeagle
19-07-2010, 10:44 AM
His airshot was a matter of sheer bad luck, his standing foot just caught the ball as he was about to hit it, it happens to the best players in the world!

Loved how he put his hands up to the crowd after he did that. :D :afro:

zonin2000
19-07-2010, 10:50 AM
Should we sign him?

On the basis of Saturday's performance, yes, he was the outstanding player on the pitch (with the exception of two midfielders who would have been stars at the World Cup but for injury).

But you can't judge a player on merely one preseason friendly played at less than full pace (either way, which means we shouldn't write off Ouasfanne). There are many questions that need to be answered and Burley will see them in training and (hopefully) further matches.

Based on what we've seen so far though, I would be happy if we signed two of Bridcutt, Baiocco and Radosavlijevic (again I stress, we can't fully judge them on one friendly, so this is just my instinct).

zonin2000
19-07-2010, 10:50 AM
Should we sign him?

On the basis of Saturday's performance, yes, he was the outstanding player on the pitch (with the exception of two midfielders who would have been stars at the World Cup but for injury).

But you can't judge a player on merely one preseason friendly played at less than full pace (either way, which means we shouldn't write off Ouasfanne). There are many questions that need to be answered and Burley will see them in training and (hopefully) further matches.

Based on what we've seen so far though, I would be happy if we signed two of Bridcutt, Baiocco and Radosavlijevic (again I stress, we can't fully judge them on one friendly, so this is just my instinct).

rhynoeagle
19-07-2010, 11:01 AM
Should we sign him?

On the basis of Saturday's performance, yes, he was the outstanding player on the pitch (with the exception of two midfielders who would have been stars at the World Cup but for injury).

But you can't judge a player on merely one preseason friendly played at less than full pace (either way, which means we shouldn't write off Ouasfanne). There are many questions that need to be answered and Burley will see them in training and (hopefully) further matches.

Based on what we've seen so far though, I would be happy if we signed two of Bridcutt, Baiocco and Radosavlijevic (again I stress, we can't fully judge them on one friendly, so this is just my instinct).

I agree that we should sign 2 of those 3. Bu i Still think, however people thought he did at chelsea, we should get the young algerian. He did look nervous on the ball, but hes only 21 desperate to prove himself against a Chelsea side.

He's a great height, kept it nice and simple looks quick. I'm not saying he should be in our starting XI for now but i think we should sign ousafane and wait for him to gell and understand how our defenders play. I think he can be a good player.

I think GB likes him and we'll sign him and one of the 3 midfeilders. I personally would of loved to get the slovenian and Baicco but thats not happening.

LLCOOLSTEVE
19-07-2010, 11:24 AM
Best midfielder for Palace in many a year.
And you are basing that on one pre seaon game !!!!??

FraserH
19-07-2010, 11:28 AM
he is 35,

it may be a free and wages wont be an issue, but he wont be able to play more than 20 games a season meaning we will have to buy anoither midfielder to cover him.

too old imo.

stevek
19-07-2010, 11:31 AM
Watching him reminded me of watching Wilkins in pre-season friendlies when we signed him.

If we do sign Baiocco, let's hope he has a slightly more successful Palace career than Wilkins...

JDawg
19-07-2010, 11:33 AM
If he was the short bloke with the bandy legs wearing Danns's shirt on Saturday I thought he was good particularly as there was nothing ariel.

Need strikers though.

Boyandy
19-07-2010, 11:38 AM
Why won't he be able to play more than 20 games a season? He's only just 35, and played a full season for Brescia in 2009-10. Obviously the pace of the game is different, but it depends on the role he plays. He's not going to need to bomb up and down the pitch if he's sitting in front of the back four breaking up play.

The likes of Hessenthaler and Wilkins played a similar role well into their 30's.

I think he's worthy of another appearance if possible. Then maybe a one year contract with the option of a year if he makes more than 25 appearances. Him in the Slovenian would do for me. Bridcutt looked decent but I'm not sure if he's tall enough.

Johnnydev66
19-07-2010, 11:40 AM
he is 35,

it may be a free and wages wont be an issue, but he wont be able to play more than 20 games a season meaning we will have to buy anoither midfielder to cover him.

too old imo.

Agree to a point, but maybe his value could be greater than that, if he helps to bring through guys like N'diaye.

Incidentally, and somewhat OT, I thought N'diaye looked a different player on Sat, perhaps more comfortable with a passing game. Having an experienced head like Baioccho to learn from could benefit him (and others) hugely. And what an odd couple they'd look :)

FraserH
19-07-2010, 11:41 AM
wilkins was awful

No.16
19-07-2010, 11:41 AM
I can appreciate he looks a good ball player but am I alone in my assertion that I think he would struggle to cope with the pace and physicality of the Championship? I just can't see him being very effective on a rain soaked Tuesday night vs Doncaster. Would much prefer the Slovenian who crunched Essien, looked more asured and is 4 years younger with international pedigree. Colace, the Solvenian, Bridcutt, N'Diaye and Danns would do me if I was George!

FraserH
19-07-2010, 11:45 AM
I can appreciate he looks a good ball player but am I alone in my assertion that I think he would struggle to cope with the pace and physicality of the Championship? I just can't see him being very effective on a rain soaked Tuesday night vs Doncaster. Would much prefer the Slovenian who crunched Essien, looked more asured and is 4 years younger with international pedigree. Colace, the Solvenian, Bridcutt, N'Diaye and Danns would do me if I was George!

good point, i fear as soon as he starts to be kicked off the pitch he would disappear from the game.

too old and might struggle to settle. he would have been an excellent buy 4/5 years ago.

Boyandy
19-07-2010, 11:54 AM
wilkins was awful

He was for us, yes. But he was 38 then.

While he was with QPR previously he was pretty much regarded as one of their best players.

Lombardo 888
19-07-2010, 12:02 PM
wilkins was awful

I thought he only played for us for 35 mins, got injured, left the pitch and retired.

stinky
19-07-2010, 12:06 PM
I can appreciate he looks a good ball player but am I alone in my assertion that I think he would struggle to cope with the pace and physicality of the Championship?

I think it may have been mentioned once or twice already

Psychokiller
19-07-2010, 12:07 PM
I thought he only played for us for 35 mins, got injured, left the pitch and retired.
He didn't retire, he left to be player/manager at QPR and eventually got the sack because he insisted on picking himself for every game.

drizzt
19-07-2010, 12:08 PM
wilkins was awful

In his 20 minute (at most was'nt it?!) appearance in our first game of the season before going off injured?

Lombardo 888
19-07-2010, 12:11 PM
He didn't retire, he left to be player/manager at QPR and eventually got the sack because he insisted on picking himself for every game.

I stand corrected.

Chris K
19-07-2010, 12:19 PM
Given the number of DM's we're being linked with i'd go with Slovenian, Colace and the Bridcutt as one for the future. Then assuming we do the 4-2-3-1 people are suggesting we'd then have 4 for 2 places if you include N'Diaye which works out nicely :)

Celestial Empire
19-07-2010, 12:31 PM
It seems we are talking to Baiocco, Rado, Colace, Bridcutt and Garvan at least. IMO, Bridcutt offers nothing special, Rado and Colace look solid, Garvan is a bit of a gamble, but is young, and Baiocco would need to be paced, with GB choosing which games he plays in. I guess we might take three.
If Colace is really a possibility, I reckon Burley will take him and Rado, and one of Baiocco / Garvan (depending on negotiations).

Voldo
19-07-2010, 12:37 PM
Personally i think Burley is going for a host of players so he can rotate for our great cup runs in both the Carling and FA Cup - as well as the charge to the play-off final.

The latter is of course plan B - for if we fail to win the league.

palace nutter
19-07-2010, 02:09 PM
One thing we know is that GB is clearly a master of the transfer market, and will no doubt get good signings.

ben123
19-07-2010, 02:55 PM
colace and radosomethng for the majority with n'diaye and bridcutt for the future. bridcutt over garvan as he is free and has just as much potential.... not baiccio as he is not realy for the future.

ben123
19-07-2010, 02:56 PM
:bash:

Mad Raschic Ken
19-07-2010, 03:02 PM
In his 20 minute (at most was'nt it?!) appearance in our first game of the season before going off injured?

Yes - and a week earlier he'd been majestic as we beat Arsenal 3-1 at Highbury in the Tony Adams testimonial.

MFC
19-07-2010, 04:28 PM
http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/sport/eagleeye/8279117.Burley_to_decide_on_trialists/

i hope we sign both there looked very good.

burley wants to look at 22 year lad again it says in the report but no news as yet on the trialist.

EdMan
19-07-2010, 05:06 PM
My mate is a big Brescia fan. Heres what he said about Baiocco today:

"Well, he was in Storo with the rest of the team here yesterday. True, pretty ancient, but as the Italians say "class is not like water, it doesn't just dribble away", and he has got some class. Doubtful about him moving though, unless they can pay him well."

KungFuCharlie
19-07-2010, 05:09 PM
My mate is a big Brescia fan. Heres what he said about Baiocco today:

"Well, he was in Storo with the rest of the team here yesterday. True, pretty ancient, but as the Italians say "class is not like water, it doesn't just dribble away", and he has got some class. Doubtful about him moving though, unless they can pay him well."


There's another Italian phrase: old chickens make good broth.

But I think that's more to do with women (judging by the person who relayed it)

ItalianEagle
19-07-2010, 05:15 PM
Taken from an interesting italian football site. Read from the automatic translation of Google

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AJ8
19-07-2010, 05:17 PM
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Catania+Calcio+v+Udinese+Calcio+Serie+kYnaxk1_zRNl .jpg

orp pisshead1
19-07-2010, 05:30 PM
Yes - and a week earlier he'd been majestic as we beat Arsenal 3-1 at Highbury in the Tony Adams testimonial.

Thought it was 2-1 salako double? or was that the league?. :lux:

orp pisshead1
19-07-2010, 05:34 PM
I think that he's worth a years deal as he'll also help the youngsters at the club with his professionalisim(sp). Reminded me of kevin taylor.

stevek
19-07-2010, 05:51 PM
Thought it was 2-1 salako double? or was that the league?. :lux:

That was the league game.

eagle-leg
19-07-2010, 05:51 PM
Thought it was 2-1 salako double? or was that the league?. :lux:

Yep that was in the leaugue... Arsenal were so upset that we trounced them in Adams testemonial that they organise another one if I remember correctly!! Haha!!

stevek
19-07-2010, 05:54 PM
Yep that was in the leaugue... Arsenal were so upset that we trounced them in Adams testemonial that they organise another one if I remember correctly!! Haha!!

Yes they did.

stevek
19-07-2010, 05:54 PM
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Catania+Calcio+v+Udinese+Calcio+Serie+kYnaxk1_zRNl .jpgHe's got his reds and blues the wrong way round.

orp pisshead1
19-07-2010, 05:57 PM
That was the league game.

Cheers was at both wins:lux: :lux:

eagle-leg
19-07-2010, 05:59 PM
Taken from an interesting italian football site. Read from the automatic translation of Google

Click here (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=it&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tuttomercatoweb.com%2F%3Faction %3Dread%26id%3D219309)

Thanks for that... As ever I think some things get lost in translation, but that pretty much equated to me as follows:

He has one more year at Brescia
Opportunity arose to play in this friendly for Crystal Palace
He loves England and would relish the chance to play for us
Brescia consented to this trial
Does not want to comment further until he has had the opportunity to speak to the manager at Brescia
He respects Brescias wishes however and would stay there if that is what they wanted

I'm speculating that he might wish to get released by Brescia if we are interested in signing him

Others may have read that differently

OurManInSussex
19-07-2010, 06:26 PM
I hope he signs for us, he'd be an good player to watch and an occasional touch of class can make the difference in a championship game.

rhynoeagle
19-07-2010, 07:56 PM
I hope he signs for us, he'd be an good player to watch and an occasional touch of class can make the difference in a championship game.

This.

Stigma
20-07-2010, 07:27 AM
Davide Baiocco is hoping to have done enough during a trial at Crystal Palace to earn a move to England.

The Italian midfielder recently took in a spell at Selhurst Park, having been given permission to turn out in a pre-season friendly by his current employers Brescia.

The 35-year-old feels he fared well during his time with the Eagles and admits it would be a dream come true were he to be given an opportunity to test himself on English shores.

Baiocco told tuttomercatoweb: "It was a great experience, we'll see if they (Palace) propose something.

News
"I'm waiting for news from my agent and then we'll decide together with Brescia.

"I love English football and it was a thing born by chance, there was the possibility of a friendly and that was a good experience. We'll see what comes out.

"I like the way people live football in England, they think only to play. The result is not always important, only that you have tried your best.

"There are many things to consider, together with Brescia, and that doesn't mean that if Crystal Palace made me a proposal I would accept. There are many things to consider.

"In life, never say never, but for now I think I will start the season with Brescia".
http://footytweets.com/crystalpalace/news/326608

Doesn't seem too hopefull then..

Away
20-07-2010, 07:49 AM
Thanks for that... As ever I think some things get lost in translation, but that pretty much equated to me as follows:

He has one more year at Brescia
Opportunity arose to play in this friendly for Crystal Palace
He loves England and would relish the chance to play for us
Brescia consented to this trial
Does not want to comment further until he has had the opportunity to speak to the manager at Brescia
He respects Brescias wishes however and would stay there if that is what they wanted

I'm speculating that he might wish to get released by Brescia if we are interested in signing him

Others may have read that differently

My reading is that he really wants it, but he is being very careful not to be seen to be forcing Brescia's hand. The language is very respectful.

N Herts Eagle
20-07-2010, 07:54 AM
Davide Baiocco is hoping to have done enough during a trial at Crystal Palace to earn a move to England.

The Italian midfielder recently took in a spell at Selhurst Park, having been given permission to turn out in a pre-season friendly by his current employers Brescia.

The 35-year-old feels he fared well during his time with the Eagles and admits it would be a dream come true were he to be given an opportunity to test himself on English shores.

Baiocco told tuttomercatoweb: "It was a great experience, we'll see if they (Palace) propose something.

News
"I'm waiting for news from my agent and then we'll decide together with Brescia.

"I love English football and it was a thing born by chance, there was the possibility of a friendly and that was a good experience. We'll see what comes out.

"I like the way people live football in England, they think only to play. The result is not always important, only that you have tried your best.

"There are many things to consider, together with Brescia, and that doesn't mean that if Crystal Palace made me a proposal I would accept. There are many things to consider.

"In life, never say never, but for now I think I will start the season with Brescia".
http://footytweets.com/crystalpalace/news/326608

Doesn't seem too hopefull then..

I dont read it that way its a translated Italian interview.....my take is if the offer is right he will take it otherwise he is happy to stay with Bresica.

The age thing had me thinking Ray Wilkins at QPR before he signed for us spent 4 years at QPR from about 33 to 37....did well to

ItalianEagle
20-07-2010, 09:43 AM
My opinion is that he wants to join Crystal Palace, he loves english football, but he is also quite diplomatic because he's extremely grateful to Brescia because they gave him a chance last year.

sydnsteve
20-07-2010, 09:48 AM
Did not see the game, but it seems he got pretty good reports on here. I'd certainly like a player who can play football, and seems worth a 1 year deal to me.

TC EAGLE
20-07-2010, 09:59 AM
latest on all the trialists

http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/sport/football/crystalpalace/eaglesnews/8281105.Bridcutt_and_Morgan_not_joining_Palace/

Gooders
20-07-2010, 10:11 AM
Can't say I'm surprised about Bridcutt - he just looks too diddy, although perhaps I say it as shouldn't.

rhynoeagle
20-07-2010, 10:18 AM
The wages part on the bottom of the article about the trialists to make me belive we will be signing Rado instead of Davide. It must be a tough call and we havent seen a player who can add that touch of class in midfield to our play in a while. However Rado would also be a great signing.

adrenalin john
20-07-2010, 01:00 PM
The quote shows the guy is a professional; praising everybody, not burning any bridges but also demonstrating he knows his worth.

Brixtonianeagle
20-07-2010, 01:11 PM
I hope he signs for us, he'd be an good player to watch and an occasional touch of class can make the difference in a championship game.

Here here. :hi:

dorkinglad
21-07-2010, 10:20 AM
by Gooders 'Can't say I'm surprised about Bridcutt - he just looks too diddy, although perhaps I say it as shouldn't'



He may be small but so is Messi - In fact he was so small Barcelona gave him growth hormones!

917L
23-07-2010, 10:01 PM
No developments then?

Thought he was a good player and wage dependant could be a good signing

rhynoeagle
23-07-2010, 10:13 PM
No developments then?

Thought he was a good player and wage dependant could be a good signing

I'd be delighted if we sign him. What does age matter if he has class ? Like you said if hes on alot a week then no. But otherwise .. YES PLEASE :D

adrenalin john
24-07-2010, 04:28 AM
I wonder if we are awaiting the Garavan deal to be completed - or not - before deciding on whether to sign our Italian friend

rhynoeagle
24-07-2010, 08:52 AM
I wonder if we are awaiting the Garavan deal to be completed - or not - before deciding on whether to sign our Italian friend

I think GB is waiting for a deal to be done for Rado to see whether he will sign or not (Baiocco)

spt1978
24-07-2010, 10:42 AM
If we give him more than a 1 year deal it will be a mistake

Billy Rhino
24-07-2010, 01:51 PM
I hope he signs for us, he'd be an good player to watch and an occasional touch of class can make the difference in a championship game.
Didn't we say the same about Mark Kennedy when he signed?

nickkris
24-07-2010, 02:02 PM
If we give him more than a 1 year deal it will be a mistake

That's why you give him a 1 year deal plus automatic 1 year extension triggered after 20 appearances (or some such). Whether he'd take it is another matter.

Away
24-07-2010, 02:05 PM
I was very optimistic about Mark Kennedy.

ThisIsDoM
24-07-2010, 02:11 PM
Same, I was over the moon when we signed him.

Neckinger Eagle
24-07-2010, 08:38 PM
Just a thought, but maybe we haven't heard about Baiocco, Rado and Garvan signing because they are currently contracted to other clubs, and we can only offically sign them after the transfer of the League share? Or am I off beam here?

doodledandy
24-07-2010, 10:24 PM
Same, I was over the moon when we signed him.
I was ecstatic when he went! :p

Vince Hilaire's Afro
25-07-2010, 12:02 AM
There's another Italian phrase: old chickens make good broth.

But I think that's more to do with women (judging by the person who relayed it)

Some of them do go like a train.

cpfcfan1
26-07-2010, 03:58 PM
According to someone on the palace 606 there are two italian articles today one saying he wont get a deal n another saying he is in london and will sign for two years

Big Guns
26-07-2010, 04:09 PM
My dad watches Italian TV when ever he is not at work, and they reported last week that he would be signing, guess we just have to wait and see

Penstone Eagle
26-07-2010, 04:10 PM
According to someone on the palace 606 there are two italian articles today one saying he wont get a deal n another saying he is in london and will sign for two years

That's cleared that up then !

rhynoeagle
26-07-2010, 04:11 PM
I really want him to sign up. Looked a class above anyone on the pitch, regardless of his age.

eagleforlife
26-07-2010, 04:38 PM
According to someone on the palace 606 there are two italian articles today one saying he wont get a deal n another saying he is in london and will sign for two years

Just read both of those articles. The first one is from spotal.tv and reckons Radosavljevic would be preferred as he is younger. But the second one is from the Italian Telegraph and says he will sign for one year with the option of a second.