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HappyLarry
24-06-2002, 06:15 PM
TRANSFER WINDOW FAVOURS BIG CLUBS: MEGSON

West Brom manager Gary Megson believes the new transfer window is "an absolute nightmare" for the Baggies and is weighted in favour of the big clubs.

Megson feels newly-promoted West Brom, who have a smaller squad than most of their Premiership rivals, will be denied the chance to bring in replacements for injured or suspended players when they need to.

The former Norwich and Stoke boss has until August 31 to add to his squad before the transfer deadline and fears the opportunity to sign players thereafter could cost West Brom their top flight status.

"We're going into the unknown anyway and the transfer window is an absolute nightmare for clubs like ours, said Megson.

"Every other club that have gone up in the past have had a chance to see whether the players that got them there are good enough.

"If they haven't been, they have been able to bring in reinforcements.

"That opportunity has been taken away from us and it is unfair.

"Not every club can run with massive, highly-paid squads in the knowledge they've got enough to take them through the course of a season. Some clubs are also affected more by injuries than others.

"I'm not in favour of it but I'm sure the massive, conglomerate teams are," he told the club's official website.

Last Updated: 24 Jun 2002

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Is this correct? Does anyone know when the "windows" are ie, Xmas, New Year, etc? Does it apply to Nationwide clubs as well? I don't remember reading anything about this, has it not had much publicity or have I just missed this change to transfer rules.

Jimbo ?
24-06-2002, 06:57 PM
never understood these "windows" - i just hope they go away!!

Beanie
24-06-2002, 07:10 PM
This was all over the papers a while back. Supported by UEFA, but hated by PFA, Premier League and Football League. It was my understanding that they weren't happening in England at least because of this, but actually I think they are a good idea. If you can't rush out and buy an instant replacement for an injured player (if he's suspended clubs rarely buy a replacement) what do you have to do? You have to develop your own! Instead of rushing to the continent and picking up a ready made player, who once the injured player is fit is just another player, you have to look at your youth development programme to bring players through.

Okay, I admit that when it first comes in it will be hard - but five years down the line we will see clubs who have HADto develop their own stars taking a serious interest in developing young players. Perhaps they should phase it in, rather than all in one go - but it seems a great idea to me.

HappyLarry
02-07-2002, 02:14 PM
League reject transfer window
By John Ley (Filed: 01/07/2002) Telegraph Sport


The Football League are threatening to take legal action against the Football Association in an attempt to prevent the game's governing body in this country from bringing in transfer windows.

FIFA, who run the world game, want to introduce a universal transfer window system, beginning this autumn. They want all transfer activity to end on Aug 31 and the window to open again only on Jan 1, 2003, for a month, then closing until the end of the season.

The League, however, believe that because they have a uniquely large number of members, all of whom are professional - not to mention the ever-growing number of full-time clubs in the Conference - they will be harmed by such a proposal and have therefore asked the FA to lobby FIFA for a dispensation.

They cite the example of the transfer last February of Nottingham Forest's Jermaine Jenas, to Newcastle United for 5 million. Forest, struggling financially, needed to sell Jenas to survive. Had the transfer window been in place, Forest could, in theory, have been out of business by now.

In a strongly-worded letter, the League's solicitor, Nick Craig, has written to the company secretary of the FA, Nic Coward, warning that any attempt by the FA to push through FIFA's proposal at their summer conference this weekend could be unconstitutional and open to legal challenge.

The League believe that accepting the proposal at such short notice will only hinder clubs who, in most cases, are still trying to come to terms with the collapse of the ITV Digital deal.

In his letter, Craig says: "It is clear that the Football Association is now taking active steps to implement domestic windows. You will appreciate that this affords the Football League Board no confidence whatsoever in the Association's ability to objectively present an application to FIFA for dispensation."

The League warn: "The Football League's position in respect of this matter is clear. It is our view that the Football Association has no power to validly introduce such provisions by way of Regulations passed by Council.

"Should the Football Association continue with the proposed course of action then the Football League [and a representative Member Club] would have little option but to seek a declaration that the Regulations are invalid and of no effect for the coming season."

GOD
28-08-2002, 01:28 PM
There is no point the FL not having the Transfer Window as the big money moves they nead can't happen because no one outside the FL will be able to buy them anyway:confused:

Is the window not a restriction of movement and probably illegal under employment law?? Does anyone know?

kolinkins
28-08-2002, 04:13 PM
sir steve made the point on sky that if a player mounts a legal challenge to transfer windows, theu would win coz it obstructs their freedom of movement!

BaldEagle69
28-08-2002, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by kolinkins
sir steve made the point on sky that if a player mounts a legal challenge to transfer windows, theu would win coz it obstructs their freedom of movement!


Surely there must be some form of legal obligation to uphold any appeal otherwise what was the point of bringing it in at all... Football must have it's own set of rules - especially when you learn Leicester must take back Wise for assaulting a work colleague. That would not happen anywhere other than in football....

Jimbo ?
28-08-2002, 11:02 PM
Its all a joke any way!!! Football is at the moment!!

HappyLarry
29-08-2002, 07:22 PM
29-Aug-2002 13:35
Window open for Nationwide League


Nationwide League clubs will not learn until next week whether they are to gain a two-year exemption from the new transfer window rules.

However, the Football League believe clubs will be able to continue signing players until a decision is made public by FIFA.

The transfer window system is being introduced this season, with Premiership clubs and other leagues around Europe being unable to sign players after this Saturday until a mid-season opening in December.

However, the Football League have argued that this could spell financial disaster for cash-strapped clubs who sometimes need to raise transfer revenue at short notice to keep themselves afloat.

The League are hopeful that FIFA will allow them a moratorium, during which time they hope to persuade them to extend it.

However, a FIFA spokesman revealed: "The matter is still under review. The transfer window comes into effect on September 1 but a decision regarding the request from the English football authorities is not likely to come until next week.

"Documents are currently being translated and sent to members of the committee. They need to consider these before making a decision.

"Other countries have submitted slight modifications as well so we want to deal with all of these together before submitting a final set of provisions next week.''

John Nagle, head of communications at the Football League, responded: "Its obviously very frustrating.

"We are just days away from an artificial transfer deadline that we have opposed for the best part of a year, yet still don't know if FIFA are going to recognise our objections.

"That said, we remain confident of reaching an agreement as FIFA have indicated that they are open to considering a more flexible arrangement than previously seemed possible.

"With that in mind the League has made proposals, through the FA, that should be acceptable to both parties.''

He added: "The League have the support of the FA and Premier League to continue with the existing `open' system until a response has been received from FIFA.

"Therefore clubs will be able to continue signing and registering new players, including loan players from Premier League clubs.''


http://www.itv-football.co.uk/articles/news/story.html?articleid=231760

Phil O'Sophical
30-08-2002, 01:35 AM
The latest from Sporting Life:

FIFA SET TO SHUT WINDOW
By Mark Bradley, PA Sport Chief Soccer Writer

FIFA are set to dash the Football League's hopes of obtaining a permanent exemption from the transfer window system.

The League have sent FIFA new proposals which would allow a limited quota of transfers between clubs in Divisions One, Two and Three in periods outside the two transfer windows.

FIFA on Thursday said they would make a decision next week but a spokesman for football's world governing body insisted if any dispensation was given, it would be for a limited period only.

FIFA spokesman Andreas Herren told the Press Association: "The principle of transfer windows cannot be removed, it is one of the cornerstones of our agreement with the European Commission.

"If there is any dispensation it would just be for a transitional period to soften the impact.

"We had a first proposal from the Football League which was too drastic, and our legal department are now looking at a second proposal. A decision is not likely to come until next week."

The Premier League have reluctantly accepted the transfer window system, and no transfers will be allowed involving top-flight clubs after midnight on Saturday until the next window opens around Christmas.

Meanwhile, the Football Association will allow the League to carry on with transfers until they have heard back from FIFA.

League spokesman John Nagle said if the Nationwide clubs are granted a dispensation for one or two seasons, they would view it as a trial period and would seek a permanent exemption at the end of it.

The League claim transfer windows could spell financial disaster for cash-strapped clubs who sometimes need to raise transfer revenue at short notice to keep afloat.

Nagle said: "We want a permanent dispensation because the the objections we have to the system are not going to go away, it's going to be just the same in two years.

"If we get some sort of agreement for a limited period we will regard it as a trial period for both sides rather than a transitional period, review it at the end and reserve our rights to reassess the situation."

He added: "It is very frustrating. We are just days away from an artificial transfer deadline that we have opposed for the best part of a year, yet still don't know if FIFA are going to recognise our objections."

The League's ultimate weapon could be to launch some sort of legal action claiming restraint of trade, though such a course of action is way down the line.

Such a move would also cause the whole transfer agreement hammered out between FIFA, UEFA and the European Commission to be re-examined in minute detail.

FIFA defend the transfer windows as a measure, agreed by all parties during the transfer rules negotiations, designed to increase the stability of players' contracts.

They also point to the fact the system has worked for many years in countries such as Spain, Italy and France.

The FA's head of communications Paul Newman confirmed Football League clubs will be able to carry on with transfers beyond Saturday's deadline until they have heard back from FIFA.

He told the FA's website, www.thefa.com: "The Football Association would like to make it clear that there is no dispute between FIFA and the FA on the issue of a transfer window.

"We are working with our colleagues at the Football League to reach a compromise.

"The Football League is opposed to the principle of transfer windows, as is The FA.

"We have sought to negotiate flexibility in order to allow clubs which have already suffered financially after the collapse of ITV Digital to retain the ability to trade between themselves when the transfer window is closed.

"We had a fruitful discussion with FIFA when we met on July 23.

"Since then we have been talking regularly and the FIFA players' status committee is considering our joint request for flexibility.

"While we await FIFA's decision, we will continue to allow transfers within the Football League beyond Saturday's deadline."

What?
30-08-2002, 09:06 PM
Bugger!

YASSA the PALACETINIAN
30-08-2002, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Jimbo ?
never understood these "windows" - i just hope they go away!!

Very few people do...............

This Transfer Windows, is this the replacement to XP Windows?

:confused:

Daddy Long
30-08-2002, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by What?
Bugger!

No thanks, I've had the runs

pete eagle
30-08-2002, 10:13 PM
it will all come crashing down when one player challenges the ruling because it stops their freedom of movement.

Random*
30-08-2002, 10:31 PM
Doesn't stop them moving - it just stops them playing if they do move.

Phil O'Sophical
30-08-2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by pete eagle
it will all come crashing down when one player challenges the ruling because it stops their freedom of movement.

But we're in the Soviet......... er, I mean European Union now where there has to be a rule for everything!! Otherwise how would our beloved bureaucrats justify their existence?