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gilesy14
22-05-2014, 10:41 AM
Did we not say the same when Puncheon and Bolasie was named as our wingers, powder puff defending with those Two. And what was the outcome when Pulis got to work on them, a total transformation. Should we sign Redmond and Zaha, rest assured they will be a lot more committed to their defensive duties. Yes I accept the defence will be more exposed, but when your play becomes more expansive in a new system then attacking players must contribute to defensive duties. The system is similar to that of Liverpool and more so Hull, who for a newly promoted club did very well until the last few weeks. Drastic changes will always raise caution, also I am not saying TP will buy into this setup, just my view of changes we will need so as to surprise others in our important Second season in the premiership.
As I mentioned we must be bolder as we certainly wont get away with scoring so few goals again, to do so means gambling to a degree.

I didn't, no. Fair enough if you did about Puncheon & Bolasie...you must feel a bit silly now.

We had great success by playing to banks of 4 & making our opponents play very narrow & through the middle - Chelsea at home probably demonstrated this best when we pretty much nullified Hazard, arguably the most dangerous winger in the Premier League.

However, you're saying to go the complete opposite. Put two out & out wingers on the flanks with no cover behind them so that opponents wingers can have an absolute field day & tear us apart down the wings. That, in my eyes, is mental. Why would Pulis want to throw away a formation/shape/tactics which worked so well for us & suited our players to go all out attack? One thing Pulis specialises in is making his teams hard to beat. With the formation you've suggested, we'd be anything but that.

TWELLSEagle
22-05-2014, 11:10 AM
There is a massive difference between being able to track back and do your bit as a winger in a 442 or 433 formation and playing a wingback role in a 352. That formation with those players is insane. Wing backs are primarily defensive players who have good pace and counter attacking ability. Not wingers who chip in with defensive duties.

knowlesyUCLA
22-05-2014, 11:36 AM
Did we not say the same when Puncheon and Bolasie was named as our wingers, powder puff defending with those Two. And what was the outcome when Pulis got to work on them, a total transformation. Should we sign Redmond and Zaha, rest assured they will be a lot more committed to their defensive duties. Yes I accept the defence will be more exposed, but when your play becomes more expansive in a new system then attacking players must contribute to defensive duties. The system is similar to that of Liverpool and more so Hull, who for a newly promoted club did very well until the last few weeks. Drastic changes will always raise caution, also I am not saying TP will buy into this setup, just my view of changes we will need so as to surprise others in our important Second season in the premiership.
As I mentioned we must be bolder as we certainly wont get away with scoring so few goals again, to do so means gambling to a degree.

Pulis did a great job on Bolaise, that’s for sure. I think that Puncheon always had it in him and has always been favoured by managers because of his tactical awareness and defensive positioning in addition to his goal threat.

To amend my earlier post, we would’ve scored more with a Hooper up front but not as many as we would have with a Gayle up front.

To cite Liverpool as an example of how we should structure ourselves is not a good idea. Our system is entirely different and so is the strength of our players. Holloway tried to go for that system earlier in the season, with the centre backs playing out wide when the keeper has the ball, with Jedi dropping deep in the Stevie G ‘quarterback’ role. No-one was comfortable playing it and we lost 10 games in a row.

We are already better than Hull and don’t see why we should aspire to match their system.

You need to realise that Pulis is not about ‘drastic changes’. He is about minor tweaks and setting up a team to play to the strengths of its players. We are still playing good quality attacking football but doing so with a strong defensive base behind us. Personally I ******* love it.

N Herts Eagle
22-05-2014, 03:22 PM
I agree completely that the work rate of Jerome was in the main very very good but for me that should be a given of any player. Yes he had a sometimes thankless job trying to occupy 2 centre halfs as well as the full backs on occasion & his efforts were admirable.

My point is he's a centre forward & call my old fashioned but I want my centre forward to be a goal threat I don't want to be in a position where when we get a chance the last person I want it to fall to is our centre forward, usually you want the chance to fall to him.

Yes he worked well in the system but I'm sorry he got 2 bloody goals. Over the years I've seen akinbiyi, Andrew & wilbraham work hard & chase defenders but they, like Jerome, were far from a goal threat. Old Fashioned.
Generally I agree with you the traditional centre forward should be the main goal scorer and a good centre forward contributes most goals a season for his side. However one of the things last season was we did not have that natural centre forward for whatever reason. Only late in the season did Murray and Gayle combine to add a natural goal threat with Murray playing the role behind Gayle. Gayle remindeds me more of the AJ centre forward playing off the shoulder of the centre half.
Jerome was more than an Akinbiyi or Andrew work hard and chase player he created space for others by making the runs taking up positions leaving or creating the space slightly wider that we exploited to create and score from. Wilbs is another capable of doing that role and in the semi and final of the play offs showed far more than say Andrew or Akinbiyi. As someone pointed out a goalscoring Jerome would not have been with us he would have been kept by Stoke. However I think the other thing was he was willing to learn and developed into the role to fit the team like Chamakh they both took on a role different from the traditional centre forward that they both were to become part of the overall team. I do think that TP will play with that team structure may well look at a natural goal scorer but with the ability of Jerome to create space.
Seperate to that the suggestion of three at the back I dont see happening watching us defend last season it was the two lines of four with the two wide dropping back sometimes to form a six enabling the full backs to push out when needed to support the middle two . It was a strong tough defence tactic stubborn as well that really enabled us to build the quick breakaways. I dont see that changing much only Liverpool for a period with the cross ball from one side to the other aimed between the full back and centre half caused us trouble unless others start to exploit that I dont see us changing anything about the defence maybe the personnel a little.

Danny boy
22-05-2014, 03:42 PM
People are going to very disappointed when they realise that not every signing is going to be drastic improvement on what we have, we need to have some depth

GB2506
22-05-2014, 04:02 PM
If we are to bring in Hooper, we must get it out of our system that he is a replacement for Jerome, he's not, both very different types. We all know the strength's and weakness of Jerome, as for Hooper with the right setup is a finisher, so to see the best of him will need a physical presence alongside. This could be Jerome (why not) as he has proved he can do that job, or somebody like Matt Smith (Leeds) aged 23 I think, so could develop into that role. Or why not Murray or Chamakh alongside, but that would possibly need Two upfront to see us most goal effective. Personally I would like to see us adapt to or experiment in pre season a 3-4-1-2 system to see if that works. We Must be bolder next season, as we wont get away with scoring so few goals again. Should we go along with the majority of our current players then this is how we could start next season.

-----------------------------------Speroni----------------------------------

-------------Ward------------------Dann-------------------Delaney----------------

------Redmond--------Jedinak-------------Ledley------------Zaha----------

----------------------------------Puncheon--------------------------------

-------------------------Hooper----------------Chamakh----------------

Thank god you aren't our manager. We would lose 5-2 every week playing this team.

Kosowski
22-05-2014, 04:30 PM
Has less pace and power than Jerome
Less scoring ability and pace than Gayle
Worse touch, skill, hold up, and link up play than Chamakh
We already have Murray

No from me

This. Average, average player. I could score 10 a season for Celtic.

Kosowski
22-05-2014, 04:31 PM
If we are to bring in Hooper, we must get it out of our system that he is a replacement for Jerome, he's not, both very different types. We all know the strength's and weakness of Jerome, as for Hooper with the right setup is a finisher, so to see the best of him will need a physical presence alongside. This could be Jerome (why not) as he has proved he can do that job, or somebody like Matt Smith (Leeds) aged 23 I think, so could develop into that role. Or why not Murray or Chamakh alongside, but that would possibly need Two upfront to see us most goal effective. Personally I would like to see us adapt to or experiment in pre season a 3-4-1-2 system to see if that works. We Must be bolder next season, as we wont get away with scoring so few goals again. Should we go along with the majority of our current players then this is how we could start next season.

-----------------------------------Speroni----------------------------------

-------------Ward------------------Dann-------------------Delaney----------------

------Redmond--------Jedinak-------------Ledley------------Zaha----------

----------------------------------Puncheon--------------------------------

-------------------------Hooper----------------Chamakh----------------


Clueless. Don't give up your eday job eh? ;)

Dave
22-05-2014, 04:32 PM
This. Average, average player. I could score 10 a season for Celtic.

Clueless. Don't give up your eday job eh?

Selhurst Celtic
22-05-2014, 04:32 PM
People are going to very disappointed when they realise that not every signing is going to be drastic improvement on what we have, we need to have some depth

The voice of reason in a sea of negativity. Wait a minute...

jobiinthelastmi
22-05-2014, 04:36 PM
Slight upgrade on Jerome, but also slower and not as hard working.

Scored some belters, but doesn't look like a natural goal scorer to me.

kolinkins
22-05-2014, 04:38 PM
Clueless. Don't give up your eday job eh?

Yes - 6 goals in 32 games for an out and out striker is not average.

OK Dave.

jobiinthelastmi
22-05-2014, 04:40 PM
Yes - 6 goals in 32 games for an out and out striker is not average.

OK Dave.

It's not average, It's awful

Ten is about average.

Aaroncpfc
22-05-2014, 04:42 PM
I think Gary Hooper would benefit a lot from a season in The Championship than a season with us.

I also think we would benefit a lot more signing a player better than Gary Hooper.

kolinkins
22-05-2014, 04:43 PM
It's not average, It's awful

Ten is about average.

It's not awful because you do have to consider the team he was playing in.

But 5 open play goals is a concern for a player who cost what he did, played the number of games he did and is meant to be an out and out goal scorer.

Billyd
22-05-2014, 04:46 PM
Come off it guys.

Just about every Norwich player this season has under performed under poor management.

The likes of Bassong was a runner for PL team of the season the year before.... this season hes struggled to even make the Norwich team! Likewise for players like Pilkington, Hoolihan & Snodgrass (amongst others) just havent been the same. Even Ruddy (who has been excellent for years) really lost form at times.

Not saying Hooper is some sort of great player but he looks decent and we should know better than anyone; that good players look much better under a good manager in this league.

Id be quite happy with a number of Norwich players playing for us under Pulis.

Dave
22-05-2014, 04:46 PM
Yes - 6 goals in 32 games for an out and out striker is not average.

OK Dave.

Your default position seems to be to post something back on the thread, in a sarcastic tone, add nothing, then sulk

what the hell is wrong with you?

A single season is not enough to judge the lad.

kolinkins
22-05-2014, 04:49 PM
Come off it guys.

Just about every Norwich player this season has under performed under poor management.

The likes of Bassong was a runner for PL team of the season the year before. This season hes struggled to even make the Norwich team! Likewise for players like Pilkington, Hoolihan & Snodgrass (amongst others) just havent been the same. Even Ruddy (who has been excellent for years) really lost form at times.

Not saying Hooper is some sort of great player but he looks decent and we should know better than anyone; that good players look much better under a good manager in this league.

Id be quite happy with a number of Norwich players playing for us under Pulis.

They have some good players, sure - Johnson, Fer, Snodgrass, Redmond, Bassong.

In fact, it's a damning indictment of Hughton that they went down.

But Hooper has so so much to prove and did not live up to what he was meant to - out and out striker, decent amount of experience.

kolinkins
22-05-2014, 04:50 PM
Your default position seems to be to post something back on the thread, in a sarcastic tone, add nothing, then sulk

what the hell is wrong with you?

A single season is not enough to judge the lad.

Correct, he should not be judged on a single season. But having played in the SPL, he cannot be judged on those seasons either. So we are left with judging him on what he did at Scunthorpe - which was grand and all, but not enough to justify a significant outlay on him

Dave
22-05-2014, 04:51 PM
Correct, he should not be judged on a single season. But having played in the SPL, he cannot be judged on those seasons either. So we are left with judging him on what he did at Scunthorpe - which was grand and all, but not enough to justify an outlay on him

Dude, we aren't going to be buying proven EPL goal scorers at their peak, it's simply not going to happen

kolinkins
22-05-2014, 04:53 PM
Dude, we aren't going to be buying proven EPL goal scorers at their peak, it's simply not going to happen

I didn't say we would.

If we sign him for a couple of million, then all good and well. But we should not go anywhere near what Norwich paid for him.

Billyd
22-05-2014, 04:57 PM
They have some good players, sure - Johnson, Fer, Snodgrass, Redmond, Bassong.

In fact, it's a damning indictment of Hughton that they went down.

But Hooper has so so much to prove and did not live up to what he was meant to - out and out striker, decent amount of experience.

Started the season injured. Loads of those appearances from the bench. Scored more than Jerome and Chamakh. Its really not that bad for a striker playing for the first time the Premiership under a poor manager.


As you say hardly any of those talented players had a good season for them. Even that Dutch international who scored goals for fun in Holland & Portugal only managed 1 in this Norwich side.

Be interesting to see how Hooper does in a team managed better.

Dave
22-05-2014, 04:58 PM
I didn't say we would.

If we sign him for a couple of million, then all good and well. But we should not go anywhere near what Norwich paid for him.

Good grief

So, he is a decent signing after all.

Selhurst Celtic
22-05-2014, 04:59 PM
But having played in the SPL, he cannot be judged on those seasons either.

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2013-manager-stories/363920d1372956403-henrik-larsson-king-kings-henrik-champions-league.jpg

mushroom
22-05-2014, 05:00 PM
One yr load deal would be awesome, Like N'castle did with Remy

kolinkins
22-05-2014, 05:03 PM
Started the season injured. Loads of those appearances from the bench. Scored more than Jerome and Chamakh. Its really not that bad for a striker playing for the first time the Premiership under a poor manager.




Played 32 games. Started 22 of those, only 10 of those appearances as a sub.

He scored 1 more than Chamakh in the same number of appearances but you know as well as I do Hopper's role for Norwich was very much removed from Chamakh's role behind the striker with us.

kolinkins
22-05-2014, 05:06 PM
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2013-manager-stories/363920d1372956403-henrik-larsson-king-kings-henrik-champions-league.jpg

Larsson had pedigree before and after Celtic and was a proven international. As did Ledley.

At the moment, Hooper is like Stokes, Griffiths, Samaras, Miller, Murphy etc.

mushroom
22-05-2014, 05:06 PM
Played 32 games. Started 22 of those, only 10 of those appearances as a sub.

He scored 1 more than Chamakh in the same number of appearances but you know as well as I do Hopper's role for Norwich was very much removed from Chamakh's role behind the striker with us.

You have a point, but that was GH's first season in the prem, playing in a shit team, with a clueless manager. He will be better this yr fo' sho

mupp3tguy
22-05-2014, 05:07 PM
Only player I'd want from Norwich is Redmond ............

Billyd
22-05-2014, 05:11 PM
Only player I'd want from Norwich is Redmond ............

Ollson been their best player.

We need a LB most of all....

Kosowski
22-05-2014, 05:15 PM
Clueless. Don't give up your eday job eh?

Yes because Hooper has lit up the Premiership. :rolleyes: I played at a decent level when I was younger, I have no doubt I could score a few goals in a team like Celtic against their weekly quality of opposition, with far superior players creating chances for me. Having a good scoring record for Celtic means nothing unless you can demonstrate it elsewhere.

Hooper is Championship level. Murray would also score shitloads for Celtic.

mushroom
22-05-2014, 05:21 PM
Yes because Hooper has lit up the Premiership. :rolleyes: I played at a decent level when I was younger, I have no doubt I could score a few goals in a team like Celtic against their weekly quality of opposition, with far superior players creating chances for me. Having a good scoring record for Celtic means nothing unless you can demonstrate it elsewhere.

Hooper is Championship level. Murray would also score shitloads for Celtic.

Unless you played at a pro level, you are talking Sugar Honey Ice Tea

Selhurst Celtic
22-05-2014, 05:33 PM
I played at a decent level when I was younger

Purley Panthers Most Improved Player 1994

AndyStreet
22-05-2014, 05:37 PM
Is this going to be another Coulsdon Colts thread?

ebyeeckeagle
22-05-2014, 05:40 PM
Unless you played at a pro level, you are talking Sugar Honey Ice Tea

I played at a decent level too, the single season at the highest I reached taught me the gulf between even semi-pros and idiots like myself. Perhaps it was my height. Or weakness for beer. Or just not good enough.

Celtic are a Championship standard team, even those detracters say that. Well, thats a pretty good standard in anyone's book.

Thefunkymonk
22-05-2014, 05:54 PM
I played at a decent level too, the single season at the highest I reached taught me the gulf between even semi-pros and idiots like myself. Perhaps it was my height. Or weakness for beer. Or just not good enough.

Celtic are a Championship standard team, even those detracters say that. Well, thats a pretty good standard in anyone's book.
Disagree with them being championship standard.. They compete in the champions league. They haven't been humiliated and I have no doubt that if someone like Blackburn (no disrespect to them) came up against Barca or ac Milan then they would get hammered. Celtic have beaten both of them in recent times not to mention teams such as spartak, shaktar etc! And bit so long ago they were in the uefa cup final... Don't see many championship standard teams there. Not disputing the SPL as a whole is weak I just think there is a lot of ignorance shown towards Celtic and rangers (less so rangers now!). Anyway back on topic, hooper is a very good finisher, a poacher style striker. He played in a poor Norwich team but managed to pick up a few goals. Would who suit us?? Probably no. We need pace and power which hooper doesn't have.

Eagle's Nest
22-05-2014, 06:06 PM
I'd bang them in for Celtic. If I can provide you with some imagery, it would be like the Huns marauding from Asia through Europe. Think the end of Ancient Rome but with lots of fisting.

Eagle's Nest
22-05-2014, 06:10 PM
PS. I played a lot of World Cup Willy when I was a kid - made it through to the last 4 on many an occasion.

FansAbroadLLC
22-05-2014, 06:58 PM
One yr load deal would be awesome, Like N'castle did with Remy

I see this type of post so many times it's frightening. A loan (not load) can only be made if the clubs can agree a financial arrangement and the player agree to the move. It's not as simple as borrowing a hammer off your next door neighbor, as some would have you believe.

MasterYoda
22-05-2014, 07:11 PM
I'd bang them in for Celtic. If I can provide you with some imagery, it would be like the Huns marauding from Asia through Europe. Think the end of Ancient Rome but with lots of fisting.

Bad analogy

sirdougie
23-05-2014, 08:46 AM
A big fat No from me.

Selhurst Celtic
23-05-2014, 11:27 AM
I'd bang them in for Celtic. If I can provide you with some imagery, it would be like the Huns marauding from Asia through Europe. Think the end of Ancient Rome but with lots of fisting.

:D

Jordan555x
23-05-2014, 01:10 PM
If we are to bring in Hooper, we must get it out of our system that he is a replacement for Jerome, he's not, both very different types. We all know the strength's and weakness of Jerome, as for Hooper with the right setup is a finisher, so to see the best of him will need a physical presence alongside. This could be Jerome (why not) as he has proved he can do that job, or somebody like Matt Smith (Leeds) aged 23 I think, so could develop into that role. Or why not Murray or Chamakh alongside, but that would possibly need Two upfront to see us most goal effective. Personally I would like to see us adapt to or experiment in pre season a 3-4-1-2 system to see if that works. We Must be bolder next season, as we wont get away with scoring so few goals again. Should we go along with the majority of our current players then this is how we could start next season.

-----------------------------------Speroni----------------------------------

-------------Ward------------------Dann-------------------Delaney----------------

------Redmond--------Jedinak-------------Ledley------------Zaha----------

----------------------------------Puncheon--------------------------------

-------------------------Hooper----------------Chamakh----------------

Would rather start Gayle to be honest.

dowieslovechild
23-05-2014, 01:46 PM
Purley Panthers Most Improved Player 1994

I remember an Indian striker who used to play for them, c.1982/1983.

The guy was prolific and such a strong player.

Selhurst Celtic
23-05-2014, 02:18 PM
I remember an Indian striker who used to play for them, c.1982/1983.

The guy was prolific and such a strong player.

He was brave.

Billy Rhino
23-05-2014, 02:26 PM
what about signing Scott Brown, is he any good? I think he only has 1 year left on his contract, £250k should do the trick.

L'kooch
23-05-2014, 02:42 PM
Only player I'd want from Norwich is Redmond ............

Snodgrass PLS!!!!

scro
23-05-2014, 02:44 PM
Is this going to be another Coulsdon Colts thread?

Oi leave Coulsdon Colts out of this!!

He does have a point i think murray would score shed loads for celtic.

AndyStreet
23-05-2014, 02:55 PM
Oi leave Coulsdon Colts out of this!!1

He does have a point i think murray would score shed loads for celtic.

I played for them too! :lux:

Adlerhorst
23-05-2014, 02:59 PM
Didn't we all.

dannyboy1807
23-05-2014, 03:06 PM
yep I played for them too.

Adlerhorst
23-05-2014, 03:10 PM
I think, quite possibly, playing for them was the last time I saw Scro. Probably twenty years ago now.

Eagle's Nest
23-05-2014, 09:50 PM
Bad analogy

:) If you'll pardon the pun

Nigelbrag
24-05-2014, 11:21 AM
If we are to bring in Hooper, we must get it out of our system that he is a replacement for Jerome, he's not, both very different types. We all know the strength's and weakness of Jerome, as for Hooper with the right setup is a finisher, so to see the best of him will need a physical presence alongside. This could be Jerome (why not) as he has proved he can do that job, or somebody like Matt Smith (Leeds) aged 23 I think, so could develop into that role. Or why not Murray or Chamakh alongside, but that would possibly need Two upfront to see us most goal effective. Personally I would like to see us adapt to or experiment in pre season a 3-4-1-2 system to see if that works. We Must be bolder next season, as we wont get away with scoring so few goals again. Should we go along with the majority of our current players then this is how we could start next season.

-----------------------------------Speroni----------------------------------

-------------Ward------------------Dann-------------------Delaney----------------

------Redmond--------Jedinak-------------Ledley------------Zaha----------

----------------------------------Puncheon--------------------------------

-------------------------Hooper----------------Chamakh----------------

To those who have suggested clueless, thank goodness I am not the manager, and don't give up the day job. My reply is read carefully what I said and the reasons given, firstly this is my Personal view of the team selection and (not necessarily TP choice) also that I would like to see any experiment during PRE-SEASON, as this is when you try out any new system, if not revert to the tried and tested methods. Rest assured, if we continue to struggle scoring goals as we did, then we would be very lucky to stay up next season, the element of surprise next season will not be there, as most teams would have sussed out our strengths and weaknesses. The system we employed of 4-2-3-1 is fine providing you have a CF who scores a lot of goals, and is then supported from midfield/wings with a fair quota of goals, but we do not.
Yes I accept in hindsight the team I selected is very attack minded with the defence possibly a little exposed, but one I felt was worth experimenting, and should it not work then revert with a LB to stabilize the defence, with Puncheon reverting to the wing at the expense of say Redmond, making it a 4-4-2 but with a team still able to provide a goal threat.
Too many of our fans see the system as needing to be rigid, instead of being flexible and open to changes if you are to progress as Swansea have shown (maybe not last season) due to all their changes. And if we are to move forward we need to be more adaptable to change.

danpalace07
24-05-2014, 01:06 PM
Where the **** is Gayle?!

philsick
24-05-2014, 01:13 PM
Where the **** is Gayle?!

Spot on.If gayle plays regularly next season, i may even have a bet on him being one of the leagues top scorers.

theCoach
25-05-2014, 10:40 AM
Unusual post for you nige......not sure you have completely thought that one through. ...don't dislike the formation set up......but certain players selected arnt good enough or more to the point more suited to other formations. .....what has bolasie done not to get a game in any formation?.....delaney top bloke I might addwill be a year slower........and we as a club will have surrendered our soul if we cant turn joniesta into the player we hope......this ain't a dig nige as you post here with thought.

WarnockLeg
03-06-2014, 01:15 PM
We're linked with him again in the Mail Online today. Villa and QPR are also mentioned.

McpfcS
03-06-2014, 01:19 PM
We're linked with him again in the Mail Online today. Villa and QPR are also mentioned.

Can't see TP having any interest in a 5'9" CF.

Owngoal
03-06-2014, 02:22 PM
Can't see TP having any interest in a 5'9" CF.

Their top scorer with 8 goals - Gayle got half of his season tally in 2 games. No better than what we have thinking of Murray. Need a taller muscular forward who unlike Jerome can score. Not an easy task.

Crozzy71
03-06-2014, 02:27 PM
Can't see TP having any interest in a 5'9" CF.

Particularly one who's 5'9" and shit.

For once for for all can we pleeeeaase kill this Hooper thread.

Dave
03-06-2014, 02:40 PM
Oh behave.

You know nothing

TWELLSEagle
03-06-2014, 02:46 PM
Hooper is not shit and the height thing is bollocks. From what I've seen of him he looks class and can stand his ground too.

Hitchin Eagle
03-06-2014, 02:53 PM
From what I've seen of him he looks class and can stand his round too.

:D

Stavros 69
03-06-2014, 03:16 PM
He's a little turd

nathe
03-06-2014, 03:25 PM
Les Ferdinand or sherrigham weren't tall but were still good in the air. And crouch is 8 foot tall and is shit.

Personally the idea of Hooper is growing on me

Penstone Eagle
03-06-2014, 03:32 PM
We're linked with him again in the Mail Online today. Villa and QPR are also mentioned.

Oh what a suprise

Crozzy71
03-06-2014, 03:35 PM
Oh behave.

You know nothing

Puts me level with you then.

Daveywest
03-06-2014, 03:41 PM
He's a little turd

Pulis did sign Michael Owen......

sydnsteve
03-06-2014, 04:19 PM
No tanks.

Owngoal
03-06-2014, 06:05 PM
Pulis did sign Michael Owen......

So did old red nose

Walrus
03-06-2014, 07:31 PM
Backup to Gayle?

Could do worse, but surely a player like Hooper isn't a priority for us.

What a difference a year makes, eh?

Wright+Bright
03-06-2014, 09:32 PM
Hooper is not shit and the height thing is bollocks. From what I've seen of him he looks class and can stand his ground too.

I agree, every time I've seen him he's looked very useful with great holdup play.

EagleSE24
04-06-2014, 08:37 AM
He reminds me a little of Dean Ashton.

Lingy Eagle
04-06-2014, 12:43 PM
I can see Hooper being the Jerome replacement...

Ron Dogers
04-06-2014, 02:07 PM
I can see Hooper being the Jerome replacement...

What a big fast CF who terrorises blokes like Terry with his pace and power but couldn't score in a brothel after winning Euromillions

Sceagle
27-08-2014, 11:54 AM
At evens to sign him now...

glaziers fan
27-08-2014, 11:55 AM
I hope not.

Malarkey
27-08-2014, 11:55 AM
wtf

cpfcfan1
27-08-2014, 11:57 AM
Yes please

Sceagle
27-08-2014, 11:58 AM
Cut down from 12/1 to evens

glaziers fan
27-08-2014, 12:14 PM
Gayle is quicker, and a better finisher.

Mad Raschic Ken
27-08-2014, 12:16 PM
Gayle is quicker, and a better finisher.

That is true. I know this will be an unpopular comment, but in my opinion Hooper will be an upgrade on Murray and will therefore strengthen our squad in a key area.

Eastsussex
27-08-2014, 12:18 PM
Hooper would be a good addition

FromSelhurst
27-08-2014, 12:19 PM
Decent.

Aaroncpfc
27-08-2014, 12:24 PM
I would have thought Warnock would want somebody in the Connor Wickham build.

Pubface
27-08-2014, 12:26 PM
Neil always liked to have loads of forwards!

swhib
27-08-2014, 12:30 PM
I’d be very happy with Hooper

CrawleyEagle
27-08-2014, 12:31 PM
I've got a feeling random signings are going to come out of nowhere in the next couple of days.

Nth Kent Eagle
27-08-2014, 12:33 PM
Gayle is quicker, and a better finisher.

Football is a squad game.

Quipton
27-08-2014, 12:34 PM
I would have thought Warnock would want somebody in the Connor Wickham build.

Let's not go there again ;) (although I agree with you)

Howdy Dudey
27-08-2014, 12:34 PM
That is true. I know this will be an unpopular comment, but in my opinion Hooper will be an upgrade on Murray and will therefore strengthen our squad in a key area.

Spot on !!!!!

cpfcfan1
27-08-2014, 12:37 PM
Hooper and gayle

Niceee

Seaside Eagle
27-08-2014, 12:40 PM
Hooper, Gayle, Chamakh, Campbell and Murray. Good shit.

Aaroncpfc
27-08-2014, 12:50 PM
I've got a feeling random signings are going to come out of nowhere in the next couple of days.


The same people that would have loved this last week will be moaning about it now just because of the manager.

DARZET EAGLE
27-08-2014, 07:07 PM
Would be a useful addition if we can get him back to his Celtic form, and achieve renewed confidence from regularly hitting the back of the net.

spt1978
27-08-2014, 07:11 PM
Prefer Wickham but guess he is put of our range.

Don't really see the point of hooper and Gayle.

elgin eagle
27-08-2014, 07:17 PM
Harry Monk sees all

Gathers54
27-08-2014, 07:18 PM
Prefer Wickham but guess he is put of our range.

Don't really see the point of hooper and Gayle.

They wont sell Hooper for peanuts either.... Norwich will want a similar price to what they paid.

macstar
27-08-2014, 07:39 PM
Prefer Wickham but guess he is put of our range.

Don't really see the point of hooper and Gayle.

We finished 11th last year, Wickham should NOT be out of our range.....

we need to push on and sign players like this...!

hdeagle
28-08-2014, 12:22 AM
Palace now 5/4 favourites to sign Gary Hooper

alanlee11
28-08-2014, 12:29 AM
All hail lord Monk

L'kooch
28-08-2014, 01:02 AM
1st reported by the monk 14 months ago

GodstoneEagle
28-08-2014, 01:44 AM
He's square

Madden
28-08-2014, 03:41 AM
They wont sell Hooper for peanuts either.... Norwich will want a similar price to what they paid.
I would be suprised if we payed 5m for a striker with a goals to game ratio of 1 in 5 in the Premiership.

GreatGonzo
28-08-2014, 08:24 AM
Think PL might be too high a level for him but happy to be proved wrong if he signs.

Most of his goals have been against League 1 level teams.

RAB
28-08-2014, 11:44 AM
According to the bloke on Sky just now, Palace are going to sign Gary Cooper!

Pinkie Brown
28-08-2014, 11:52 AM
According to the bloke on Sky just now, Palace are going to sign Gary Cooper!

what just like that?

bigdazza08
28-08-2014, 12:12 PM
Warnocks met with Monk then a he is the scout lol.

Ardent Eagle Forever
28-08-2014, 12:20 PM
At 5ft 9 he's a ferking dwarf. Shouldn't Palace have a bigger goal scorer up front with Gayle who's 5ft ferk all?

Neckinger Eagle
28-08-2014, 12:38 PM
According to the bloke on Sky just now, Palace are going to sign Gary Cooper!

Press conference arranged for High Noon.

Sceagle
28-08-2014, 12:51 PM
Hooper is a natural finisher like Gayle. To be fair to Hooper's record, Norwich were pony last year and didn't create many chances.

Hooper signing would leave us with 4/5 good strikers, which is par for the course to become a good premier league side.

Crozzy71
28-08-2014, 12:55 PM
Hooper will give us no more than Murray does already. And neither fit into the current system we play.

PalaceMonkey
28-08-2014, 01:02 PM
At 5ft 9 he's a ferking dwarf. Shouldn't Palace have a bigger goal scorer up front with Gayle who's 5ft ferk all?

yeah, do we need three tiny strikers?

JB's ghost
28-08-2014, 01:04 PM
I'm a little surprised that we're going for yet another short striker. Nevertheless, on the Celtic forum, they reckon he was the second best striker they had ever had (sounds a bit of an exaggeration to me).

Friskey
28-08-2014, 01:06 PM
Prefer Gayle and Campbell but Warnock loves a forward!

cpfcfan1
28-08-2014, 01:06 PM
Would be delighted with hooper andd zaha before toon

Eastsussex
28-08-2014, 01:16 PM
Murray,gayle,chamack,hooper,cambpell,....coached by wrighty sounds good to me.

burgess hill 84
28-08-2014, 01:18 PM
Murray,gayle,chamack,hooper,cambpell,....coached by wrighty sounds good to me.

Ian Wright is a Dj NOT A COACH. FFS.

FMH57
28-08-2014, 01:51 PM
Ian Wright is a Dj NOT A COACH. FFS.


And Teddy Sheringham is a poker player , but seemed perfectly capable of coaching the West Ham forwards prior to a Saturday .

Jono14
28-08-2014, 01:52 PM
Do we really need Gayle, Campbell, Murray and Hooper going for one spot? Surely 3 is enough plus Chamakh if somehow all 3 are unavailable.

Crouchey21
28-08-2014, 01:54 PM
Do we really need Gayle, Campbell, Murray and Hooper going for one spot? Surely 3 is enough plus Chamakh if somehow all 3 are unavailable.

How do u know it's for 1 spot? New manager, New formation? Maybe.

The Omen
28-08-2014, 02:01 PM
Good player, but not sure we need him...

Gayle, Campbell, Chamakh and Murray are good enough imo. Think we need to strengthen at the back rather than up top.

Eastsussex
28-08-2014, 02:25 PM
Chris Evans is a d.j...ffs....Ian wright was coach(strikers)at mk dons,...so your point is??

Kirby
28-08-2014, 02:39 PM
Good player but really don't think we need him. With Wilf we'll have five decent options upfront.

cpfcben
28-08-2014, 02:48 PM
Not what we need. Bizarre signing!!! No pace, no hold up play! Another finisher. We have Gayle Ffs.

Billyd
28-08-2014, 03:02 PM
I like him but is he an upgrade or enough of an upgrade on Murray, Gayle and Campbell? Not for me. All 4 are central strikers, not wide players too.

Other positions need looking at far more for me.

cdm61
28-08-2014, 03:16 PM
Poor very poor player

stonepark eagle
28-08-2014, 04:01 PM
Poor very poor player

Poor definitely not,better than we have?not so sure

Walrus
28-08-2014, 04:57 PM
Decent player but we already have Gayle and Campbell who can do the same job as the small predatory forward. We actually need the modern variant of the target man - the link up and hold up skilful big man with a bit of mobility and threat. The sort of player that would cost upwards of 6 million and at least 40k a week in wages.

anti-addick
28-08-2014, 05:25 PM
Campbell is not up to it so far for me.

ollie_porter
28-08-2014, 05:55 PM
Really not the sort of forward we need.

Cedric Bakambu would be a better fit although his scoring record isn't great in Ligue 1.

However, it seems Swansea mop up all the types of forward we should be looking at- Bony, Gomis, Emnes and now Bakambu likely are perfect in the lone striker role.

Wright+Bright
28-08-2014, 06:40 PM
I think Hooper looks like a really good player whenever I've seen him. His hold up play is great. Don't get the pessimism.

Davy64
28-08-2014, 07:08 PM
Warnock will get the best out of him and he will love Gayle that's for sure

PJJY
28-08-2014, 11:00 PM
Said the same when we bought Campbell - I'm all for squad depth and having options up-front, but we desperately need variety.

First two games have highlighted how much we miss someone in the Jerome-mould to hassle and stretch defences.

What does Hooper offer us that Campbell and Dwight don't? Small, fast, hard-working poachers.

Think Championship is his level, was poor all season at Norwich.

GodstoneEagle
29-08-2014, 07:04 AM
He's square

arabian eagle
29-08-2014, 07:06 AM
Don't see what he offers us ? How many did he get last season?

RisZero
29-08-2014, 08:33 AM
Averaged 1.6 goals a game over 3 years for Celtic, and was more than capable of pulling out top drawer finishes.

Scored 6 for Norwich (including one notable long range screamer), not the best of returns but lets be realistic... Norwich was one of the lowest scoring teams in the league, which is a problem that likely extends past a single individual.

Edit: 6 league, 8 all competitions

Whether we need him or not is one thing, but he is most definitely a capable striker in the right team.

jobiinthelastmi
29-08-2014, 08:34 AM
Averaged 1.6 goals a game over 3 years for Celtic, and was more than capable of pulling out top drawer finishes.

Scored 6 for Norwich (including one notable long range screamer), not the best of returns but lets be realistic... Norwich was one of the lowest scoring teams in the league, which is a problem that likely extends past a single individual.

Edit: 6 league, 8 all competitions

Whether we need him or not is one thing, but he is most definitely a capable striker in the right team.

Should be scoring three a game in that shite league.

RisZero
29-08-2014, 08:35 AM
Should be scoring three a game in that shite league.

He scored 5 in one game actually xD

TouchyAndalou
29-08-2014, 11:19 AM
Campbell is not up to it so far for me.

Do you reckon we should give him three games to prove himself, or is two more than enough?

ForzaPalace
29-08-2014, 11:21 AM
He's square

He is pretty f*cking square

Barcaeagle
29-08-2014, 12:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xSLoDVoXqVo

Think he would do well with Bolasie and Wilf on the wings !!

Vince Hilaire's Afro
29-08-2014, 12:24 PM
Do you reckon we should give him three games to prove himself, or is two more than enough?

I think one of those deals people we hope we got Wilf on would be best. The one where we get them on a loan in case they're no good (at which point we give them back), but if they turn out to be fantastic, the parent club cannot have them back, nor sell them to anyone else due to a pre-arranged, non binding (on our side only) bargain permanent transfer fee of 'peppercorn'

Timbo
29-08-2014, 12:37 PM
Do you reckon we should give him three games to prove himself, or is two more than enough?

Good point but are you denying that FC has looked poor for the first couple of league games? Bearing in mind we are at the end of the window and decisions have to be made quick, if the right player came available I would consider taking them rather than rely on FC turning out good

maestro
29-08-2014, 12:43 PM
We seem to be signing center backs from teams that were hopeless in defence last season and strikers from teams who couldnt score to save their lifes!

bigend1
29-08-2014, 12:46 PM
Very capable goal scorer given chances... As others have said we have gayle. For me first choice gayle, tough call between hooper and Murray next leaving Campbell. Four strikers for one slot? We surely won't be playing two finishers yet we have no back up for chamakh really

Edit: I suppose Murray could take chamakh's place and play in a different way of course. More old fashioned no 9 in a 442 should chamakh be out

knowlesyUCLA
29-08-2014, 01:19 PM
People who are saying that Campbell is not up to it were not at the Arsenal game. He did a great job of winning cheap free kicks, relieving the pressure, and making a nuisance of himself. Not a huge goal threat but always lively and switched on.

It may be that he is better in that type of match than a winnable home game such as the West Ham one, where we are expected to come out and attack, where Gayle might be more appropriate.

Far too early to write him off.

Nevertheless I am not sure we need Hooper, but competition is always healthy.

RPM-D
29-08-2014, 01:23 PM
We seem to be signing center backs from teams that were hopeless in defence last season and strikers from teams who couldnt score to save their lifes!

So basically we're buying from Norwich...

jimos_uk
29-08-2014, 01:25 PM
People who are saying that Campbell is not up to it were not at the Arsenal game. He did a great job of winning cheap free kicks, relieving the pressure, and making a nuisance of himself. Not a huge goal threat but always lively and switched on.

It may be that he is better in that type of match than a winnable home game such as the West Ham one, where we are expected to come out and attack, where Gayle might be more appropriate.

Far too early to write him off.

Nevertheless I am not sure we need Hooper, but competition is always healthy.

He ran around a lot and got kicked a bit, be fair.

It is far too early to write him off, I agree, but I've not seen anything to suggest that he'll thrive in the lone striker role that we've been set up for (to date). I think he would be far more dangerous were Chamakh to play up top alongside him, but if we're going for that formation then I'd far rather see Gayle playing.

On Hooper, I quite liked the idea of signing him when he was at Celtic and scoring a billion goals, but I dread the thought of a 'Double Swoop' for him and Bassong. I hate 'Double Swoops'. I can't remember the last one that we had, but I'm sure it was rubbish.

knowlesyUCLA
29-08-2014, 01:37 PM
Bassong is better than Delaney. Not that that means we should sign him, but still it would be an upgrade. I would much rather a “double swoop” involving Martin Olsson and Gary Hooper though. We need a left back/left back badly. Traore is wank.

As for Campbell, he is similar to Jerome. Not quite as physical but makes up for it with his pace. They are like-for-like in my opinion, and that worked fine for us last season.

I agree that Gayle should be the main man at the moment though, even before the midweek performance.

Get him in for the Burnley home game and I fancy us to get the win.

palacea
29-08-2014, 01:43 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-boss-neil-warnock-4129115

This is one I hope isn't true...

xchurcheagle
29-08-2014, 01:49 PM
Apparently we have had a bid accepted

burgess hill 84
29-08-2014, 01:51 PM
Apparently we have had a bid accepted

I hope not.

Tripod 10
29-08-2014, 01:59 PM
No improvement on what we already have. If true, surely no more than £3m?

Gilbert07
29-08-2014, 02:07 PM
Very good scoring record discounting last season in a sinking Norwich team. Will score with good service.

red&blue_moomin
29-08-2014, 02:28 PM
Eh don't want. If there's one thing Neil has a habit of doing it signing lots of strikers. I think Gayle, Chamakh, Muzza and Campbell are enough personally unless NW is going to treat Chammers as a 'midfielder' now...

LB and DM are far far more pressing, if we got a ball playing AM as well it wouldn't be the worst thing either.

JDawg
29-08-2014, 02:49 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-boss-neil-warnock-4129115

This is one I hope isn't true...

The bit about being QPR relegation rivals? At least 62% of those polled think NW will keep us up.

Hooper is good but we now have a lot of strikers.

Where we're light is playmakers. Surely this is a priority - or are we teeing ourselves up for the return of Owen Garvan?

Kosowski
29-08-2014, 02:55 PM
Hooper is no better than what we have, what's the point?

JannerEagle
29-08-2014, 03:05 PM
And I thought I'd seen the last of those Warnock days of 4-2-4!

Celestial Empire
29-08-2014, 03:05 PM
Judging by these rumours, NW seems to think he will become more popular by buying some crappy players from QPR/jumping in to preempt one of their scatter-gun transfers in. Big danger that NW will damage the group esprit by buying mercenary QPR-type players.
Please try to ignore that nauseating, scummy little club.:hmph:

EagleSE24
29-08-2014, 03:10 PM
I think he'd be a good addition. Bit more direct than Glenn and stronger than Dwight. Adds strength and balance to the squad.

AJ
29-08-2014, 03:11 PM
Hooper is no better than what we have, what's the point?

Tbh I am not convinced that Murray, Gayle, Campbell and Chamakh really looked that convincing in the 4-5-1 formation under Pulis. Jerome looked the best last season as the 1 up top player. I don't know if Hooper would be any better or if 2 up would benefit all the players.

Sceagle
29-08-2014, 03:24 PM
Anything to **** QPR is A okay by me

carter
29-08-2014, 10:53 PM
Don't think we need him. We have Murray, Gayle, Campbell and Chamakh as strikers, let them battle it out. Personally believe given the chance any of them could better their goal tally from last season, obviously Murray as well.

Hooper isnt worth £5/6M

james powell
30-08-2014, 03:37 AM
Chamakh isn't a ST now, he's an AM. Muzza unfortunately is not up to it IMVHO and is getting on. That leaves Campbell and Gayle, Gayle is a great goal scorer but very raw and needs to be beef up a bit, he will be our main man in 1-2 years time I feel. Campbell, well personally Campbell doesn't blow me away, he was alright.
I think we need one more ST.

Thefunkymonk
30-08-2014, 04:14 AM
Chamakh isn't a ST now, he's an AM. Muzza unfortunately is not up to it IMVHO and is getting on. That leaves Campbell and Gayle, Gayle is a great goal scorer but very raw and needs to be beef up a bit, he will be our main man in 1-2 years time I feel. Campbell, well personally Campbell doesn't blow me away, he was alright.
I think we need one more ST.


This. We struggled to score last year do obviously we need to strengthen up top. The argument that Muzza gayle etc are good enough remains to be seen. I think gayle will come good mind.

Bobsta
30-08-2014, 04:36 AM
Gary hooper not good enough for palace.. I despair. One average season at Norwich and he's written off in a flash. He's 4-5 years younger than Murray and equally as good a finisher. Only 2 years ago there was talk of an England call up for him and scored tonnes for Celtic. And he always scores against us.

Mad Raschic Ken
30-08-2014, 06:39 AM
Gary hooper not good enough for palace.. I despair. One average season at Norwich and he's written off in a flash. He's 4-5 years younger than Murray and equally as good a finisher. Only 2 years ago there was talk of an England call up for him and scored tonnes for Celtic. And he always scores against us.

Yes. People continue to judge Murray on one fantastic season. It was two years ago at a lower level and since then he's had a major injury and scored a single goal from the penalty spot. I'd love him to come good, but have seen little evidence that it's going to happen so far. Hopefully this afternoon he will shove these words back down my throat!

Diehard
30-08-2014, 06:52 AM
This all feels like another episode of Holloway's Supermarket Sweep -live from Lidl's

Tony will be turning in his grave by Monday night.

Jon_C-Pal
30-08-2014, 06:52 AM
Wouldn't want him as anymore than a back up to Gayle. Gayle scored more goals in less games last season.

Jon_C-Pal
30-08-2014, 06:55 AM
Yes. People continue to judge Murray on one fantastic season. It was two years ago at a lower level and since then he's had a major injury and scored a single goal from the penalty spot. I'd love him to come good, but have seen little evidence that it's going to happen so far. Hopefully this afternoon he will shove these words back down my throat!

Tbf to him how many games has he started since he came back in February, after no games since the May before that. Don't write him of just yet.

Ollie Ox
30-08-2014, 07:09 AM
Wouldn't want him as anymore than a back up to Gayle. Gayle scored more goals in less games last season.


It's a bit harsh judging hooper on one season when he has scored consistently every year prior to that and Norwich struggled I attack.

carter
30-08-2014, 08:35 AM
Chamakh isn't a ST now, he's an AM. Muzza unfortunately is not up to it IMVHO and is getting on. That leaves Campbell and Gayle, Gayle is a great goal scorer but very raw and needs to be beef up a bit, he will be our main man in 1-2 years time I feel. Campbell, well personally Campbell doesn't blow me away, he was alright.
I think we need one more ST.

Murray is about to turn 31 mate. Hardly getting on. He is intelligent enough to score goals at this level if he gets the chance IMO. I don't think it's any surprise Gayle does so well when Murray is upfront with him. Only shit thing is if we play those 2 it leaves our best player out!

cpfcfan1
30-08-2014, 08:43 AM
Sorry if mentioned but todays sun saying we and qpr battling for him 5 mil apprantly

Stellavista
30-08-2014, 08:47 AM
Sorry if mentioned but todays sun saying we and qpr battling for him 5 mil apprantly

I think this is a battle we can afford to lose.

Jon_C-Pal
30-08-2014, 08:48 AM
It's a bit harsh judging hooper on one season when he has scored consistently every year prior to that and Norwich struggled I attack.


He has a good scoring record but only in the lower leagues, although he played for Celtic, the Scottish prem is only championship/league 1 standard. I just think if we are too sign another striker he'd need to be an obvious starter, a lot better than what we already have.

Quipton
30-08-2014, 10:37 AM
Would rather stick with Gayle, Campbell, Murray and Chamakh with Wilf able to cover as striker if we were to have 4 injuries (which is highly unlikely).

Penstone Eagle
30-08-2014, 10:40 AM
Would rather stick with Gayle, Campbell, Murray and Chamakh with Wilf able to cover as striker if we were to have 4 injuries (which is highly unlikely).


Reckon Murray will be gone by Monday.

glaziers fan
30-08-2014, 10:42 AM
Reckon Murray will be gone by Monday.

Really? I'll be surprised if he doesn't start today.

Eastsussex
30-08-2014, 10:49 AM
Would think Murray be right up warnocks street..

glaziers fan
30-08-2014, 10:57 AM
I think this is a battle we can hope to lose.

EFA

burgess hill 84
30-08-2014, 10:57 AM
Would think Murray be right up warnocks street..

Me too, he's a Warnock player all day long.

jobiinthelastmi
30-08-2014, 11:06 AM
Reckon Murray will be gone by Monday.

No chance

Warnock will get the best out of him.

JHJ EAGLE
30-08-2014, 11:07 AM
Me too, he's a Warnock player all day long.

That he is:)

Martin H
30-08-2014, 11:11 AM
Be interesting to see Warnock's assessment of Murray. I wonder if he might play him today to help him make the decision on his future. If he doesn't show enough, then move him on before the window closes. That's a tough ask for him up at Newcastle where we rarely perform/get a result.

Sadly, I think Murray is probably 'just short' of Premier. With pace he would be awesome, but without it I think he needs to play in a team that dominates play. He really isn't built to play in a Premiership team that attacks on the break.

His performances in promotion year will live long in my memory though and it will be a shame if he has to leave but sitting on the bench at his age is not smart for him and he deserves his last hurrah if he can't claim that front spot.

Penstone Eagle
30-08-2014, 12:09 PM
No chance

Warnock will get the best out of him.

I guess we'll find out if he has a place here soon.

RPM-D
30-08-2014, 01:48 PM
Not in Norwich's squad for today, but QPR are on the cusp of selling Remy apparently...

cdm61
30-08-2014, 02:01 PM
A big quick bustling centre forward is what we need....

TC EAGLE
30-08-2014, 04:49 PM
need Hooper after today with chammy and gayle getting knocks saying that hopefully the two week break will help them

glaziers fan
30-08-2014, 05:12 PM
A big quick bustling centre forward is what we need....

If we are going to sign another, totally agree.

DARZET EAGLE
30-08-2014, 05:38 PM
A big quick bustling centre forward is what we need....

..... who can score goals not just frighten the opposition.

red&blue_moomin
30-08-2014, 11:53 PM
need Hooper after today with chammy and gayle getting knocks saying that hopefully the two week break will help them

?If the cost tof hooper is Muzza he can f'off fankly and go to QPR

KungFuCharlie
31-08-2014, 05:39 AM
Be interesting to see Warnock's assessment of Murray. I wonder if he might play him today to help him make the decision on his future. If he doesn't show enough, then move him on before the window closes. That's a tough ask for him up at Newcastle where we rarely perform/get a result.

Sadly, I think Murray is probably 'just short' of Premier. With pace he would be awesome, but without it I think he needs to play in a team that dominates play. He really isn't built to play in a Premiership team that attacks on the break.

His performances in promotion year will live long in my memory though and it will be a shame if he has to leave but sitting on the bench at his age is not smart for him and he deserves his last hurrah if he can't claim that front spot.

Sadly I think you're right.

sweatyeagles69
31-08-2014, 05:54 AM
Muzza I think is the kind NW loves and also his link up play with Gayle shows there is a understanding.
Also if you have injuries in your squad you need back up.
I would keep him.
Regarding Hooper he properly go to qpr.

Eaglez
31-08-2014, 06:42 AM
?If the cost tof hooper is Muzza he can f'off fankly and go to QPR

He'll probably be going to qpr anyway!

andy m
31-08-2014, 07:27 AM
Neil Warnock built a team around Alan Lee. He can manage with Murray's "lack of pace"!

W Malling Eagle
31-08-2014, 07:51 AM
Of all the players we're linked with, this should be the lowest priority imo. When fit, we have Gayle, Campbell, Chamakh and Murray who can play up top. Unless it's a real upgrade on a couple of those players I'd far rather we focussed our investment on CM and LB. In any event, it promises to be an exciting couple of days. Hopefully including one of those unexpected signings that NW referred to yesterday.

mb23
31-08-2014, 08:33 AM
Of all the players we're linked with, this should be the lowest priority imo. When fit, we have Gayle, Campbell, Chamakh and Murray who can play up top. Unless it's a real upgrade on a couple of those players I'd far rather we focussed our investment on CM and LB. In any event, it promises to be an exciting couple of days. Hopefully including one of those unexpected signings that NW referred to yesterday.

This. Sort CM and LB out first please. Only let Muzza go if there is a proper quality replacement to bring in. Not convinced Hooper us that...

james powell
01-09-2014, 04:29 AM
@Clapham_Grand: Striker chase looking tasty #cpfc

Is it Hooper ?
Apparently Defoe is in England...

Eaglez
01-09-2014, 05:55 AM
Can't describe hooper as tasty surely? 6 goals in 36 games for Norwich we have 4 strikers capable of that or better already.

nathe
01-09-2014, 05:57 AM
Mmmmm tasty. Are there any strikers with food related names?

Jim Cannon
01-09-2014, 05:59 AM
Mmmmm tasty. Are there any strikers with food related names?

Gary Spaghetti Hoopers?

Sorry

palacea
01-09-2014, 06:00 AM
@Clapham_Grand: Striker chase looking tasty #cpfc

Is it Hooper ?
Apparently Defoe is in England...

=nothing

nathe
01-09-2014, 06:00 AM
Gary Spaghetti Hoopers?

Sorry

:D

the drexciyan
01-09-2014, 06:12 AM
Mmmmm tasty. Are there any strikers with food related names?

I've heard its Fernando 'Nando' McDonald, Trinidadian striker currently in the MLS.

Deadline day sensitivity alert: I made this all up.

dooogiepalacefc
01-09-2014, 06:27 AM
Now I'm not suggesting it is him, but didn't our former premier league striker Andy Johnson have a burger munching goal celebration?
I think he's a free agent after being released by QPR.
He's 34 in February but I seem to remember Warnock having a few mature strikers at his clubs before?
JAT

Ralph
01-09-2014, 06:33 AM
What's Bendtner up to these days?

It'll be Carlton Cole.

Sceagle
01-09-2014, 06:35 AM
Haha can you imagine signing AJ now? Lunacy.

Eaglez
01-09-2014, 06:40 AM
I too have a sneaky suspicion we will end up with Carlton cole

dooogiepalacefc
01-09-2014, 06:41 AM
Haha can you imagine signing AJ now? Lunacy.

It wouldn't be a transfer window without us being linked to AJ :D

Eaglez
01-09-2014, 06:46 AM
I'd honestly rather we re sign wilbraham.

Dave
01-09-2014, 06:47 AM
I'd honestly rather we re sign wilbraham.

for gods sake behave

swhib
01-09-2014, 06:48 AM
I'd honestly rather we re sign wilbraham.
Crazy talk

PauLo
01-09-2014, 07:03 AM
Tasty... chicken is tasty... Blackburns owners sell chicken... it's clearly gonna be Rhodes. I've cracked it. Done deal. Yes.

Rasheed Harkouk
01-09-2014, 07:49 AM
Tasty... chicken is tasty... Blackburns owners sell chicken... it's clearly gonna be Rhodes. I've cracked it. Done deal. Yes.

I hope you are right, i was fearing we'd sign Conner Salmon!!!

KungFuCharlie
01-09-2014, 08:07 AM
Random freelance journo on Twitter saying 6m fee agreed. No idea if he has a clue.

W Malling Eagle
01-09-2014, 08:11 AM
Random freelance journo on Twitter saying 6m fee agreed. No idea if he has a clue.

Really hope he's got that one wrong! Not Hooper please!

N Herts Eagle
01-09-2014, 08:12 AM
Tasty... chicken is tasty... Blackburns owners sell chicken... it's clearly gonna be Rhodes. I've cracked it. Done deal. Yes. You would have done well on Ted Rogers 3-2-1

Footballnut25
01-09-2014, 08:27 AM
Hooper would be a good signing. Had a poor season last year but has consistently shown over a number of seasons that he can score goals albeit in championship (for a struggling team) scottish football and european football. He has the attributes we need and is a decent age. Could be good business.

palacea
01-09-2014, 11:18 AM
Crystal Palace boss Neil Warnock is trying to get a £5m deal for Gary Hooper over the line.

Warnock wants to bolster his front line but co-chairman Steve Parish has yet to agree finances with Norwich who are demanding more than the £5m they paid for him last year.

Palace want to sign two midfielders - Wigan's James McArthur being one of them - before they shuffle their own pack and let anyone go


http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-deadline-day-live-arsenal-4142404#ixzz3C3tUJ4kv
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danpalace07
01-09-2014, 11:23 AM
About £3m too much

Sceagle
01-09-2014, 11:30 AM
Anything is better than Doyle

lucky_181
01-09-2014, 11:33 AM
Hearing 7m

Jason
01-09-2014, 11:52 AM
Makes no sense to me. We have two similar players already, and if we sign another striker, they need to offer something physically different to what we alrrady have. Hooper's a good player, but he doesn't do that imho.

W Malling Eagle
01-09-2014, 11:57 AM
If this goes through and the McArthur and Fryer deals stall, we could actually be worse off than we started the day, as presumably Muzza will be off. Would much prefer to keep Murray than waste money on Hooper. Now crossing everything for LB and CM signings!

knowlesyUCLA
01-09-2014, 12:02 PM
At this stage I would probably allow the signing of Hooper for £6m and let Murray go to Reading for £1.5m.

We would get Hooper’s best years and Murray does look especially cut out for the Prem, let’s be honest. We got the 30 goal season out of him that got us up plus the eternal bragging rights over Brighton.

Possibly time to move on. Hooper didn’t set the league on fire last year but Norwich weren’t great as a unit and deservedly got relegated.

Please just get this one over the bloody line though, with Fryers and McArthur.

Son of Ron
01-09-2014, 12:13 PM
Norwich who are demanding more than the £5m they paid for him last year.


er why exactly - he did feck all and they got relegated ?!! offer them £3m and a couple of new tractors, the greedy inbreds.

CPFC85
01-09-2014, 01:31 PM
Palace trying to get a deal done for Hooper:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/crystal-palace-pushing-5million-gary-4144588

maestro
01-09-2014, 07:07 PM
Is this one dead? havent heard anything all day

TouchyAndalou
01-09-2014, 07:09 PM
er why exactly - he did feck all and they got relegated ?!! offer them £3m and a couple of new tractors, the greedy inbreds.All the team tractors when to Neil, as part of his signing on bonus.

Dave
01-09-2014, 07:15 PM
Let's get him in

orp pisshead1
01-09-2014, 07:20 PM
Hearing 7m

:eek: Jesus worlds gone mad, £7 mill for someone with no prem record to speak of.

Gathers54
01-09-2014, 07:20 PM
Let's get him in

This would be far better than Doyle, that's for sure. I wouldn't mind this.

Dave
01-09-2014, 07:24 PM
:eek: Jesus worlds gone mad, £7 mill for someone with no prem record to speak of.

http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showpost.php?p=11833396&postcount=147

tommoboy0
01-09-2014, 07:49 PM
7 Million is a lot for Hooper, would prefer to keep Murray, he's a better player and would save 7 million

I would rather add another couple of million an go for someone like Rhodes

tommoboy0
01-09-2014, 07:49 PM
7 Million is a lot for Hooper, would prefer to keep Murray, he's a better player and would save 7 million

I would rather go for someone like Rhodes

maestro
03-09-2014, 09:37 AM
Wonder what happened with this? seemed like a done deal a week ago