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HARRY MONK
12-06-2013, 10:36 AM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore

kolinkins
12-06-2013, 10:36 AM
Because you have just read on twitter that Hull have bid for him?

El Kooch
12-06-2013, 10:37 AM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore
thank you harry. pay no heed to konkins

Psychokiller
12-06-2013, 10:37 AM
Shame, I thought he'd be a decent signing if we tried for him. No chance of getting him now :sob:

croydonexile
12-06-2013, 10:37 AM
Cardiff have made £4m bid for him according to ssn

LLCOOLSTEVE
12-06-2013, 10:40 AM
Cardiff have made £4m bid for him according to ssn

Hull

CPFC_DAVE77
12-06-2013, 10:48 AM
I could see him picking Cardiff and Hull over us.

croydonexile
12-06-2013, 10:48 AM
the Doris on ssn has just said Cardiff also in for him...........

Radders
12-06-2013, 10:49 AM
Shame, I thought he'd be a decent signing if we tried for him. No chance of getting him now :sob:

:D

palacea
12-06-2013, 10:50 AM
let them have him, his not worth 3million, and didn't Celtic turn down a 5-6 million bid from Norwich last season...

Nofishtoday
12-06-2013, 10:51 AM
i believe Harry Monk.

There, i've said it.

ChickenDipper
12-06-2013, 10:53 AM
Didn't tehy turn down a crazy bid of around 7 million from nowrwich in january, if not more?

rhynoeagle
12-06-2013, 10:55 AM
THE MONK HAS SPOKEN!

old geezer
12-06-2013, 10:58 AM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore

With this coming from Harry Monk is it set to become the new DaNuge thread? ;) ;)

cantspell
12-06-2013, 11:04 AM
There's a Harry Monk on the equivalent Cardiff BBS

Chief Brody
12-06-2013, 11:06 AM
:rolleyes: We'll be linked with John Wayne too next!

yorkshire eagle
12-06-2013, 11:07 AM
I could see him picking Cardiff and Hull over us.


why would you say that?? hull to be frank is not the greatest place ever (I used to live at flamborough head so know hull very well) and London may be far more attractive than cardiff

Gollum
12-06-2013, 11:07 AM
There's a Harry Monk on the equivalent Cardiff BBS

Harry Sheepshagger ?

deftones_eagle
12-06-2013, 11:09 AM
THE MONK HAS SPOKEN

CPFC_DAVE77
12-06-2013, 11:09 AM
why would you say that?? hull to be frank is not the greatest place ever (I used to live at flamborough head so know hull very well) and London may be far more attractive than cardiff

A lot of celtic players go to Cardiff, like Bellamy, and I can see him seeing the appeal. As for Hull, to an outsider they have a better ground, probably pay similar wages and and he has been based up north for ages.

Latvian Eagle
12-06-2013, 11:09 AM
London may be far more attractive than cardiff

London yes, Croydon no. :moo:

Thin on Top
12-06-2013, 11:11 AM
Fully expect us to make a bid.
Fully expect him to move somewhere else.

CP Satellite
12-06-2013, 11:12 AM
Perhaps we are after Harry's cousin, Garry Monk and HM has got his wires crossed? ;)

Harry Bassett
12-06-2013, 11:14 AM
:rolleyes: We'll be linked with John Wayne too next!


"Thatel be the day"

Sceagle
12-06-2013, 11:19 AM
All hail the monk

PalaceBhoy
12-06-2013, 11:32 AM
A lot of celtic players go to Cardiff, like Bellamy, and I can see him seeing the appeal. As for Hull, to an outsider they have a better ground, probably pay similar wages and and he has been based up north for ages.

This is all bollocks and he would never come to Palace. He is an Essex boy however so he might find a London club attractive. I think Spurs were linked to him with Norwich last season.

JAS78
12-06-2013, 11:32 AM
Any more news on Gattuso yet

palacea
12-06-2013, 11:34 AM
A lot of celtic players go to Cardiff, like Bellamy, and I can see him seeing the appeal. As for Hull, to an outsider they have a better ground, probably pay similar wages and and he has been based up north for ages.

BUT probably the only place that is worse than Glasgow

CPFC_DAVE77
12-06-2013, 11:38 AM
This is all bollocks and he would never come to Palace. He is an Essex boy however so he might find a London club attractive. I think Spurs were linked to him with Norwich last season.

Why do you get so mentalist everytime someone mentions celtic?

Billyd
12-06-2013, 11:40 AM
Yes THE MONK has finally spoken!

I look forward to seeing Hooper in a Palace shirt.

spt1978
12-06-2013, 11:41 AM
Monk has spoken, glad we are not looking at him.

pardew's shorts
12-06-2013, 11:41 AM
London yes, Croydon no. :moo:

How many players actually live in Croydon?

Zero, I'd say. Most live in Beckenham or somewhere in leafy Surrey.

CPFC_DAVE77
12-06-2013, 11:43 AM
How many players actually live in Croydon?

Zero, I'd say. Most live in Beckenham or somewhere in leafy Surrey.

Rambo lives in Caterham I see him in Wimpey.

TC EAGLE
12-06-2013, 11:43 AM
Hooper linked to all three promoted clubs, Charlie Austin, Danny Graham peter odemwingie and Chris Woods has been linked to Cardiff and Hull, every tom, dick and harry will get linked to Palace, Hull and Cardiff until the window closes it's all media hype.

PalaceBhoy
12-06-2013, 11:53 AM
Why do you get so mentalist everytime someone mentions celtic?

Mentalist? Nothing to do with him being a Celtic player. These threads are embarrassing linking ourselves with players like Defoe and Hooper. I would love either of those players to sign for Palace, but we couldn't afford them and if we broke the bank to do so, it would go massively against the principals of how I believe the club is currently being run.

pardew's shorts
12-06-2013, 11:53 AM
Rambo lives in Caterham I stalk him in Wimpey.

EFA

Brown Derbies at Wimpy are magic.

Eagle's Nest
12-06-2013, 11:55 AM
I suspect the competition will be too much for us on this one. He has a great scoring record.

tamlamotowner
12-06-2013, 11:57 AM
Why would he not choose us?? Didn't Matt Jansen choose us in prefererence to Manchester United once?

PauLo
12-06-2013, 12:00 PM
Forgot that Hull were promoted.

Kirby
12-06-2013, 12:03 PM
He'll sign for Cardiff on page 135.

ChickenDipper
12-06-2013, 12:04 PM
Why do you get so mentalist everytime someone mentions celtic?

Why do you keep adding endless threads about players you have no control over signing?

you are so tedious!

elgin eagle
12-06-2013, 12:06 PM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore

thats quite understandable harry, a man with your reputation for accuracy can't be too careful. Try to reveal more when you can.

ExiledStirling
12-06-2013, 12:07 PM
and he has been based up north for ages.
You are playing up to the role of stereotyped southerner very well.

wholethedougin!
12-06-2013, 12:08 PM
An abandoned baby is taken in by a Spanish monastery, and raised as a monk, christened Capuchin Ambrosio. An exceptional preacher, Ambrosio is respected by all. One day a masked figure by the name of Valerio arives at the monastery with his godfather, explaining the mask as necessary due to terrible burns inflicted on him in a fire that killed his parents. He expresses a desire to join the monastery which is initially shunned by several of the monks, however Ambrosio convinces them to not fear his differences, and to accept him. Valerio later reveals to Ambrosio that he is actually a woman by the name of Matilda, and Ambrosio orders her to leave. As a last request she asks for a rose from his rose garden, and upon reaching in to pluck one for her, Ambrosio is bitten by a giant centipede. As he becomes delirious from the effects of the venom, he is seduced by Matilda and compromises his faith. Driven by a carnal lust for Matilda, Ambrosio transgresses and he is soon found desiring another, the innocent Antonia. Matilda uses magic spells to help the monk in his pursuit of Antonia, whose rape by him leads to her insanity. It later emerges that Matilda is an instrument of Satan in female form. The focus is also on Antonia's previous relationship with Lorenzo, whose sister is tortured by hypocritical nuns for her own relationship. Returning to Ambrosio, he is delivered to the Inquisition; escaping only by selling his soul to the devil. The devil prevents Ambrosio's final repentance, and informs Ambrosio that Antonia is the monk's sister.

There be the Story of Harry Monk.

doogleboy
12-06-2013, 12:18 PM
The Monk is back

spt1978
12-06-2013, 12:22 PM
thats quite understandable harry, a man with your reputation for accuracy can't be too careful. Try to reveal more when you can.

:D

gold76
12-06-2013, 12:29 PM
Would be an amazing signing.

Fatboy
12-06-2013, 12:34 PM
the Doris on ssn has just said Cardiff also in for him...........

Paul Hinshelwood?

WorthingEagle
12-06-2013, 12:38 PM
If we're going to break the bank for anybody, it should be Hooper. Scored goals everywhere, including the Champions League. Fairly young, has sell-on value, and sod it we got £10m+ for Wilf.

cpfcfan1
12-06-2013, 12:39 PM
Here we go haha

Psychokiller
12-06-2013, 12:41 PM
People suggesting we break the bank? Yeah because doing that under Goldberg and Jordan really had a happy ending didn't it?

cpfcfan1
12-06-2013, 12:44 PM
This is boring now, people stating they have heard tjis heard that, blah blah bollocks

stevek
12-06-2013, 12:47 PM
If we're going to break the bank for anybody, it should be Hooper. Scored goals everywhere, including the Champions League. Fairly young, has sell-on value, and sod it we got £10m+ for Wilf.

Scored goals in the SPL and Europe. Fairly young.

Yes - let's break the bank for him.





Except Anthony Stokes fits that description too...

AJ's right boot
12-06-2013, 12:48 PM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore
You dont stop do you! You cant say anymore?? Im sure you could just make up something like normal!

cpfcfan1
12-06-2013, 12:49 PM
You dont stop do you! You cant say anymore?? Im sure you could just make up something like normal!


Just ignore it, its quite tedious now

Il Padrino
12-06-2013, 12:50 PM
Can't say too much but I've heard we are in for Rudolf Gideon Hedman. Big centre back from the Ivory Coast. Expect the news to break soon

Gerry from Sussex
12-06-2013, 12:50 PM
If we're going to break the bank for anybody, it should be Hooper. Scored goals everywhere, including the Champions League. Fairly young, has sell-on value, and sod it we got £10m+ for Wilf.

I've always said that striker is the one position where we have to be prepared to pay serious money. But it's all relative. In our position 10 million is about twice the maximum we could consider spending on a single player and some may well baulk even at that. It's more likely (and probably more prudent) that we will pay 3 or 4 million for a really good championship or league player or a bit less than that for a promising youngster from abroad.

cdm61
12-06-2013, 12:59 PM
Harry Monk is in the "habbit" of making these statements - sorry about that one

CPFC_DAVE77
12-06-2013, 01:04 PM
Why do you keep adding endless threads about players you have no control over signing?

you are so tedious!

I didn't start this thread? :confused:

I started two, both about players we can realisticly sign; one is even playing for a league one team.

I'm not the one suggesting we should sign Hooper, Defoe or Abidal am I?

CPFC_DAVE77
12-06-2013, 01:06 PM
You are playing up to the role of stereotyped southerner very well.

A lot of players spend their whole careers up north or down south, don't they?

Ifill Over
12-06-2013, 01:06 PM
http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/celtic-striker-gary-hooper-heads-4188521

He is in demand.

ExiledStirling
12-06-2013, 01:11 PM
A lot of players spend their whole careers up north or down south, don't they?
Not sure tbh, but it came across like you are making a comparison with Scotland and Hull just because they are north of the Watford gap.

CPFC_DAVE77
12-06-2013, 01:13 PM
Not sure tbh, but it came across like you are making a comparison with Scotland and Hull just because they are north of the Watford gap.

No. He played for Scunthorpe and has always spoken very highly of his time there.

Nofishtoday
12-06-2013, 01:14 PM
An abandoned baby is taken in by a Spanish monastery, and raised as a monk, christened Darren Ambrosio. An exceptional preacher, Ambrosio is respected by all. One day a masked figure by the name of Ventola arives at the monastery with his godfather, explaining the mask as necessary due to terrible burns inflicted on him in a fire that killed his parents. He expresses a desire to join the monastery which is initially shunned by several of the monks, however Ambrosio convinces them to not fear his differences, and to accept him. Ventola later reveals to Ambrosio that he is actually a woman by the name of Matty Phillips, and Ambrosio orders her to leave. As a last request she asks for a rose from his rose garden, and upon reaching in to pluck one for her, Ambrosio is bitten by a giant Simon Jordan. As he becomes delirious from the effects of the venom, he is seduced by Matty and compromises his faith. Driven by a carnal lust for Matty, Ambrosio transgresses and he is soon found desiring another, the innocent Anthony Stokes. Matty uses magic spells to help the monk in his pursuit of Anthony, whose rape by him leads to his insanity. It later emerges that Matty is an instrument of Brighton in female form. The focus is also on Antonia's previous relationship with Lombardo, whose sister is tortured by hypocritical nuns for her own relationship. Returning to Ambrosio, he is delivered to the Inquisition; escaping only by selling his soul to Brighton. The seaweed prevents Ambrosio's final repentance, and informs Ambrosio that Anthony is the monk's sister.

There be the Story of Harry Monk.

Ive updated it a bit....to make it more topical...:o

Ralph
12-06-2013, 01:14 PM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore


Will this be announced at a press conference with Nugent, Dawda Leigh, Carl Jenkinson, Ignasio Miguel and Robert Earnshaw?

ExiledStirling
12-06-2013, 01:14 PM
No. He played for Scunthorpe and has always spoken very highly of his time there.
Ok then you do not come across as a stereotypical southerner after all :)

CPFC_DAVE77
12-06-2013, 01:16 PM
Ok then you do not come across as a stereotypical southerner after all :)

I have to admit, I thought he had spent more time up north than he has, had no idea he was from Essex.

I seem to have caused some offence on this thread unintentionally, however, so don't apologise, Exiled, you are not alone. :p

Speporoni
12-06-2013, 01:17 PM
I'm normally an optimist .. But I genuinely think we're ****ed .. That is when it comes to signing players. There's only going to be a select group of premier league standard players that are going to want to be fighting it out for relegation and can you see the best ones choosing us over Cardiff, hull Norwich villa etc I sure cant ..

tasty_snacks
12-06-2013, 01:18 PM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore

Of course you can't.

SEEPEEEFFSEE
12-06-2013, 01:22 PM
Monk now using Talksport's Moose as a basis for his drivel.

RUSSELL
12-06-2013, 01:31 PM
Can't say too much but I've heard we are in for Rudolf Gideon Hedman. Big centre back from the Ivory Coast. Expect the news to break soon

Quality! Hope we break the bank for Alex Dyer too!!

Paulie Walnuts
12-06-2013, 02:03 PM
Am I missing something? £4 million?! Thought Norwich bid around £11 million last season and it was rejected?

elgin eagle
12-06-2013, 02:10 PM
Whilst i would like us to look at the championship for other players, I think we need to look much, much further afield for decent goalscorers to get better value and end product. 8 million plus 40k a week is a hell of a lot of money for someone unproven at the top level.

Neillo's Son
12-06-2013, 02:25 PM
Am I missing something? £4 million?! Thought Norwich bid around £11 million last season and it was rejected?

It may have been less than 11 million but I agree with the sentiment, this thread is as pointless as Vydra being available 1.5 million!

WorthingEagle
12-06-2013, 02:35 PM
Scored goals in the SPL and Europe. Fairly young.

Yes - let's break the bank for him.

Except Anthony Stokes fits that description too...

Well, break the bank was an exaggeration - at the quoted price he's within reach.

I'm getting carried away but I can just see us ending up with a couple of Sandor Torghelle-esque panic signings on August 31st.

Young Trolley
12-06-2013, 02:59 PM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore

Think you've already said too much! :D

ChaceTheAce
12-06-2013, 03:04 PM
Surprised he has never had a look in for the England setup, we are wank so we may as well. He's a good player too.

knowlesyUCLA
12-06-2013, 03:05 PM
I BELONG TO MONK.

sydnsteve
12-06-2013, 03:07 PM
Yeah, I can see him coming here. Esp as Norwich are desperate to get him. However, it does have the Monk seal of approval and that's always worth having IMHO.

Pinkie Brown
12-06-2013, 03:12 PM
In Monk we trust

Thin on Top
12-06-2013, 03:19 PM
Hull believed to have tabled £4.5m bid, according to local (hull) journo's

Sceagle
12-06-2013, 03:22 PM
Match it

DARZET EAGLE
12-06-2013, 03:32 PM
Because Celtic have signed Balde, they will offload Hooper to us to make a tidy profit and cover the fee.

NorthPalace23
12-06-2013, 06:18 PM
Let's hope this happens.

Edit

It came from Harry Monk! It will happen! One Harry Monk there's only one Harry Monk!

Gooders
12-06-2013, 06:24 PM
Hull's bid, whatever it was, has been rejected.

BLUE BOY
12-06-2013, 06:34 PM
Harry Monk has to get one right sooner or later, this could be his big moment!

herts_palace
12-06-2013, 07:27 PM
Harry Monk has to get one right sooner or later, this could be his big moment!
Yes it will either be a scooper or a pooper:)

The Gerry Queen
12-06-2013, 07:28 PM
Hull's bid, whatever it was, has been rejected.

Really couldn't see him coming back to Humberside. Is he really worth £4.5m in the final year of his contract ? He has scored goals in league 1 and the SPL. Not proven really in the Championship and certainly not proven in the EPL.

Gooders
12-06-2013, 07:33 PM
EPL Gerry? Tut tut! ;)

I'd be underwhelmed with someone like Hooper, I have to say - we must be able to do better than that for the money being talked about.

Selhurst Celtic
12-06-2013, 07:40 PM
He has scored goals in league 1 and the SPL. Not proven really in the Championship and certainly not proven in the EPL.

He's also scored goals in the Europa League and the Champions League.

The fee for Hooper will be beyond Palace. But nice to see Harry Monk back in this forum all the same.

herts_palace
12-06-2013, 07:44 PM
Not proven really in the Championship and certainly not proven in the EPL.
Getting 19 in 35 games for Scunthorpe - a side that finished 20th in the Championship - is not proving yourself?

FansAbroadLLC
12-06-2013, 07:46 PM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore

Mum's the word Harry! :love:

The Gerry Queen
12-06-2013, 10:03 PM
Getting 19 in 35 games for Scunthorpe - a side that finished 20th in the Championship - is not proving yourself?

Yes that was good but it was just one season. Nothing since to suggest that he would do that again especially at a much higher level.

Essexeagle
13-06-2013, 02:20 AM
Other than his 7 goals in 18 games in Europe too?

Isn't this the best reason to sign him? (from his Wikipedia page) "In the first game of Scunthorpe's league campaign, Hooper scored in a 2–1 defeat at Glanford Park against Leeds United.[27] He scored his first ever hat-trick against, Brighton, on 6 September[28]"

james powell
13-06-2013, 04:27 AM
EPL :veryangry

cpfcfan1
13-06-2013, 04:45 AM
The new Nugent thread

stevek
13-06-2013, 09:39 AM
My Southend supporting friend thought he was rubbish when he played for them.

Clearly he isn't rubbish, but he's far from a cert to be up to Premier League quality. (Billy Sharp scored more goals for Scunthorpe, and he can't get in the Forest team.)

JAS78
19-07-2013, 05:18 PM
Apparently celtic have accepted 5M from qpr, but Hooper not overly keen on playing in the championship again. Guess he's thinking a decent season in the PL could get him in the WC squad...

we could do worse

El Kooch
19-07-2013, 05:30 PM
Apparently celtic have accepted 5M from qpr, but Hooper not overly keen on playing in the championship again. Guess he's thinking a decent season in the PL could get him in the WC squad...

we could do worse

we could do better for 5m that's for sure

Kirby
19-07-2013, 05:44 PM
And they'll be paying him astronomical wages.

Mong!
19-07-2013, 05:48 PM
Big transfer fee, big wages. Avoid

JAS78
19-07-2013, 05:58 PM
Big transfer fee, big wages. Avoid

Not always, celtic aren't exactly awash with cash

sydnsteve
19-07-2013, 05:59 PM
Much too dear. IMHO of course

Norwoodguy
19-07-2013, 06:02 PM
Shock that average champ player excels in SPL and is worth 5 million.

Dont think this would be a decent signing for Palace tbh. Does not seem the right fit...think there is certainly better value out there..at least I would hope so.

Pub Idol
19-07-2013, 06:53 PM
Good player.

Kirby
19-07-2013, 09:10 PM
Not always

Not always, but definitely this time.

DARZET EAGLE
19-07-2013, 09:57 PM
Not always, but definitely this time.

Harry's bagged him.

Jaserob
19-07-2013, 10:26 PM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore

Why do we need him, when we have Nugent??

Billyd
20-07-2013, 07:41 AM
BBS at its best.

Very good striker proven at every level hes played at.

Not signing for Palace : Too expensive (looks similar to Gayles fee) and wages astronomical.


If he was signing for us people would be creaming themselves no question.

Malarkey
20-07-2013, 07:42 AM
He would be a good signing, even for £5M, but he isn't going to be signing.

Stavros 69
20-07-2013, 08:31 AM
Scores goals, good player what's not to like.

Jay_Palace
20-07-2013, 09:20 AM
What's the definition of astronomical wages? As has beeb stated, the Premier League average is around 36k a week.

Jay_Palace
20-07-2013, 09:23 AM
BBS at its best.

Very good striker proven at every level hes played at.

Not signing for Palace : Too expensive (looks similar to Gayles fee) and wages astronomical.


If he was signing for us people would be creaming themselves no question.

Yep. The guy is a goalscorer. We dropped the ball big time by not picking him up from Southend after he was banging them in on loan for Hereford.

SEEPEEEFFSEE
20-07-2013, 09:40 AM
BBS at its best.

Very good striker proven at every level hes played at.

Not signing for Palace : Too expensive (looks similar to Gayles fee) and wages astronomical.


If he was signing for us people would be creaming themselves no question.

Yep!

rednblue eagle
20-07-2013, 09:54 AM
Would be a great signing.

Celtic want a fair bit for him at the moment but if they haven't sold him by late August I imagine the price will drop considerably given he is in the last year of his contract.

Can't see his wages being that bad, they signed him from Scunthorpe who would probably have been paying him 4/5k a week.

Latvian Eagle
20-07-2013, 10:10 AM
Good player, proven goal scorer, would love to see him here but can't see it happening. :(

rainbow_child
20-07-2013, 10:28 AM
Exactly the type of player we really need to sign!

Kosowski
20-07-2013, 10:50 AM
I cant fathom why people are creaming themselves at the prospect of paying millions for an average 25 year old striker unproven in a decent league. I could score 10 a season in the SPL for Celtic.

Sceagle
20-07-2013, 11:25 AM
I cant fathom why people are creaming themselves at the prospect of paying millions for an average 25 year old striker unproven in a decent league. I could score 10 a season in the SPL for Celtic.

This. He's average.

Joooe
20-07-2013, 12:29 PM
He's scored goals in League One, the Championship, Scotland and Europe.

He's a goalscorer. Unfortunately he's probably a too expensive goalscorer for us.

AmericanEAGLE.
20-07-2013, 12:32 PM
19 in 35 for Scunny when he was the same age as Gayle. Average though, glad we've cleared that up.

Billyd
20-07-2013, 09:52 PM
I cant fathom why people are creaming themselves at the prospect of paying millions for an average 25 year old striker unproven in a decent league. I could score 10 a season in the SPL for Celtic.

I hate to see what you said we signed the Gayle then.

cpfc4evandeva
20-07-2013, 09:57 PM
The bbs is utterly nuts.

£5mil for a guy that has scored goals in League 1, Championship, SPL and Europe is too much.

£5m+ for a guy that has scored goals in half a season at championship level is a good deal.

lewisham eagle
20-07-2013, 10:14 PM
Top quality player. Dont think his pricetag would be too much for us but his wages would probably be too much of a push.

Billyd
20-07-2013, 10:52 PM
The bbs is utterly nuts.

£5mil for a guy that has scored goals in League 1, Championship, SPL and Europe is too much.

£5m+ for a guy that has scored goals in half a season at championship level is a good deal.

Funny isnt it.

My favourite thread is the odimwinge one. One min hes a misunderstood quality striker. The second hes bot joining hes a useless wanker with a terrible attitude.

Kirby
20-07-2013, 11:03 PM
To be fair most people are saying we couldn't afford his wages, which is true.

He'll get higher offers elsewhere (most probably QPR).

Billyd
20-07-2013, 11:07 PM
.

Don't_care
20-07-2013, 11:09 PM
Hooper could be the poacher that keeps us up but I can't see it happening.

Soarin' Eagles
21-07-2013, 07:40 AM
Funny isnt it.

My favourite thread is the odimwinge one. One min hes a misunderstood quality striker. The second hes bot joining hes a useless wanker with a terrible attitude.

With the fiasco in January, I think it's fair that alot of people feel that way. I'm not doubting he is a quality player, but his wages and attitude towards WBA was disgraceful. Wouldn't touch with a 10M barge-pole

Nth Kent Eagle
21-07-2013, 07:50 AM
On balance I would expect Hooper to be a useful addition but for a fee of £5m and probably higher wages than say Gayle we should be evaluating more options. Luring him away from a Champions League club would not come cheap in terms of personal terms.

cpfc4evandeva
21-07-2013, 08:00 AM
With the fiasco in January, I think it's fair that alot of people feel that way. I'm not doubting he is a quality player, but his wages and attitude towards WBA was disgraceful. Wouldn't touch with a 10M barge-pole

Billy's point is that people seem to base their opinions on whether the player is going to join us or not.

Had we missed out on Campana for example, the general opinion on him would have changed from a player with great potential to an unknown quantity, big risk, etc.

How Gayle for example can be a great deal for the club but Hooper overpriced is bizzare.

Nth Kent Eagle
21-07-2013, 08:35 AM
Funny isnt it.

My favourite thread is the odimwinge one. One min hes a misunderstood quality striker. The second hes bot joining hes a useless wanker with a terrible attitude.

My favourite threads are the one in June 2010 when we were saved from Lloyds Bank and the promotions in 2004 and 2013.

cpfcfan1
21-07-2013, 08:37 AM
Would be a great signing

Nth Kent Eagle
21-07-2013, 08:57 AM
Billy's point is that people seem to base their opinions on whether the player is going to join us or not.

Had we missed out on Campana for example, the general opinion on him would have changed from a player with great potential to an unknown quantity, big risk, etc.

How Gayle for example can be a great deal for the club but Hooper overpriced is bizzare.

Looking at the last sentence you would have to look at the overall package including wages, add-ons for future transfers and initial price. So yes, it is entirely possible and indeed likely that the overall cost of Hooper would be far higher than Gayle.

When looking at whether to offer £5m for Hooper and compete in the wages stake with Celtic and other clubs it is logical to ask if there are better options for the overall fee. I don't know but I would not criticise Palace fans as bizarre on this issue. Oh and for the record, I suspect he would hack it in the EPL.

The Omen
21-07-2013, 09:09 AM
I'm not completely won over by Hooper. As others have said, he could just be an average player in a poor league playing for a side who gives him multiple chances per game... or he could be good enough for the Premeir League. I'm inclined to agree with the first guess if I am honest.

Soarin' Eagles
21-07-2013, 09:27 AM
Billy's point is that people seem to base their opinions on whether the player is going to join us or not.

Had we missed out on Campana for example, the general opinion on him would have changed from a player with great potential to an unknown quantity, big risk, etc.

How Gayle for example can be a great deal for the club but Hooper overpriced is bizzare.

You're forgetting the fact that these two players will have a huge difference in wages.

PALACEFAN
21-07-2013, 09:28 AM
Would be a very good signing I feel. Bit of a Murray replacement.

Garfy
21-07-2013, 09:42 AM
Any proof we want him?

cpfc4evandeva
21-07-2013, 10:54 AM
Why does everyone think that Hooper is going to be on astronomical wages at Celtic?

I'm not saying he isn't but everyone on here is acting like he's on £50k p/w.

cpfc4evandeva
21-07-2013, 10:55 AM
Looking at the last sentence you would have to look at the overall package including wages, add-ons for future transfers and initial price. So yes, it is entirely possible and indeed likely that the overall cost of Hooper would be far higher than Gayle.

When looking at whether to offer £5m for Hooper and compete in the wages stake with Celtic and other clubs it is logical to ask if there are better options for the overall fee. I don't know but I would not criticise Palace fans as bizarre on this issue. Oh and for the record, I suspect he would hack it in the EPL.

I appreciate what your saying but does anyone here actually have an idea of what Hooper is earning in Scotland? It's all guesswork.

Soarin' Eagles
21-07-2013, 10:56 AM
Why does everyone think that Hooper is going to be on astronomical wages at Celtic?

I'm not saying he isn't but everyone on here is acting like he's on £50k p/w.

I'm not saying he is on that either, but when/if he does leave those wages will be much, much higher than Gayle's. Mark my words.

The Omen
21-07-2013, 12:55 PM
I'm not saying he is on that either, but when/if he does leave those wages will be much, much higher than Gayle's. Mark my words.

And deservedly so. Hooper has scored consistently in the league for Celtic and performed in the Champs League for them too.

Billyd
21-07-2013, 02:30 PM
I appreciate what your saying but does anyone here actually have an idea of what Hooper is earning in Scotland? It's all guesswork.

Yup the bbs seems to know the wages and wage demands of all players.

Also don't forgot any reported fees/wages you see in the papers regarding other players is gospel. Anyone palace sign its been hugely exaggerated and we arent paying that.

With all these perfect signings we are making and the fact we seem to be missing out of nobody of any quality I look forward to a successful season where we im sure will far improve on how Swansea, Norwich etc did in their first seasons.

Kosowski
21-07-2013, 10:19 PM
I hate to see what you said we signed the Gayle then.

Age my dear old thing. Gayle has the potential to be much better than Hooper.

-N.W.A-
24-07-2013, 01:49 PM
QPR have had bid excepted.

Psychokiller
24-07-2013, 01:57 PM
QPR will end up like Portsmouth once their sugar daddy pulls out, so he won't get paid what he thinks he's going to anyway.

Billyd
24-07-2013, 02:10 PM
QPR will end up like Portsmouth once their sugar daddy pulls out, so he won't get paid what he thinks he's going to anyway.

Id say they have 2 seasons to get promoted or they are they are ****ed.

Psychokiller
24-07-2013, 02:24 PM
Id say they have 2 seasons to get promoted or they are they are ****ed.

Two is being generous, I honestly believe he'll pull the plug if they don't go up this season.

sydnsteve
24-07-2013, 02:29 PM
If Hooper goes there it shows a dazzling lack of ambition

-N.W.A-
24-07-2013, 02:36 PM
I still think Norwich will jump in.

Gerry from Sussex
24-07-2013, 02:41 PM
If Hooper goes there it shows a dazzling lack of ambition

Either that or he's been dazzled by the sight of all those pound notes!!

Stavros 69
24-07-2013, 02:41 PM
QPR will bounce back

Henry, Dunne, Simpson.
All solid.

Tarabt will go
If get a CM and a striker they will do very well with Wigan.

plectrum
24-07-2013, 05:29 PM
I appreciate what your saying but does anyone here actually have an idea of what Hooper is earning in Scotland? It's all guesswork.

£14,000 pw

Source: Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/celtic/9023265/Anthony-Stokes-calls-on-Gary-Hooper-to-stay-at-Celtic.html

He is on the same contract as back in 2012 and hasn't signed anything new since.

plectrum
24-07-2013, 05:31 PM
2nd source: http://celticjournal.org/2272/gary-hooper-to-stay-at-celtic/

So seems within our budget both transfer fee and wages - obviously not one rated by Holloway.

sydnsteve
24-07-2013, 06:21 PM
QPR will bounce back

Henry, Dunne, Simpson.
All solid.

Tarabt will go
If get a CM and a striker they will do very well with Wigan.

I'm not so sure. I suspect spirits are v low.

ExiledStirling
24-07-2013, 06:32 PM
QPR will bounce back

Henry, Dunne, Simpson.
All solid.

Tarabt will go
If get a CM and a striker they will do very well with Wigan.
It is about a team not individuals. So therefore I do not think they will bounce back. They have attracted and will continue to attract mercenaries because of the cash they can splash. Getting out of the championship, requires a team ethic.

plectrum
24-07-2013, 06:36 PM
It is about a team not individuals. So therefore I do not think they will bounce back. They have attracted and will continue to attract mercenaries because of the cash they can splash. Getting out of the championship, requires a team ethic.

Care for a £100 wager?

Billyd
24-07-2013, 06:54 PM
QPR will go up. I really hope they dont, but their signings are the sort to get out this division.

First time in years where I have thought the relegated 3 will do well.

spt1978
24-07-2013, 07:04 PM
Be very surprised if a prem team doesn't not sign him.

I suspect Gayle may play wider rather than straight through the middle for us so Hopper would be great up front.

ExiledStirling
24-07-2013, 07:07 PM
Care for a £100 wager?
No, and neither should you.

plectrum
24-07-2013, 09:23 PM
No, and neither should you.

QPR are bookies favourites not only to go up but to win the league.

may blunderer
24-07-2013, 09:39 PM
Palace were second favourites to get relegated last August. The bookies are not always right. If QPR don't get a good start the pressure will get to them. It will be a tough league next season and they will not find it easy. Play-offs at best I would imagine. Bolton and Charlton for me.

Crunchie
24-07-2013, 09:42 PM
I think he is the most overated player I have seen in the last couple of years (but only 3 times).

The fact he plays for Celtic, and scores 19 goals, last season means he is a good league Championship player IMO.

They're we not many, if any high Championship clubs or Premiership clubs looking to sign him from Scunthorpe?

Murray is better (I know he is injured), and so is Cole, especially on a free.

plectrum
24-07-2013, 09:44 PM
Palace were second favourites to get relegated last August. The bookies are not always right. If QPR don't get a good start the pressure will get to them. It will be a tough league next season and they will not find it easy. Play-offs at best I would imagine. Bolton and Charlton for me.

QPR
Reading
Wigan

Duke
24-07-2013, 09:57 PM
Expect us to be in for him from what I've heard, can't say anymore

Pleased to see this was accurate and verified ;)

PalaceBhoy
24-07-2013, 10:34 PM
I think he is the most overated player I have seen in the last couple of years (but only 3 times).

The fact he plays for Celtic, and scores 19 goals, last season means he is a good league Championship player IMO.

They're we not many, if any high Championship clubs or Premiership clubs looking to sign him from Scunthorpe?

Murray is better (I know he is injured), and so is Cole, especially on a free.

I think if anyone had watched Murray play the wrong 3 games they would think he was a completely useless c*nt. You can only truly judge a player if you see him week in week out for a few months.

ExiledStirling
25-07-2013, 06:46 AM
QPR are bookies favourites not only to go up but to win the league.
I dare say they are. Put your £100 on at the bookies you will get better odds than evens if you and I had a wager. I just think that in the tough league that the championship is, no team can guarantee promotion, and I just feel they will fall short as it requires more than just a group of good footballers.

Psychokiller
25-07-2013, 06:56 AM
For every Henrik Larsson there are several Kris Boyds.....

The Gerry Queen
25-07-2013, 08:04 AM
QPR are bookies favourites not only to go up but to win the league.

Money doesn't necessarily buy success as they know well by now. They will be super arrogant and trip up early on. Given the competition next season they are no more than one of the pack and could well struggle as Wolves did last season unless they have shaped up mentally. Karl Henry will know all about that though.

JAS78
25-07-2013, 08:16 AM
the bookies are clueless on championship betting, it's all pure guesswork on their part.

they always go with the obvious teams to go up or down, based on the clubs spending and where they were the previous season. Very rarely works out that way

Stavros 69
25-07-2013, 09:09 AM
In all fairness to the monk, it wouldnt suprise me if we enquired and were put off with the £5m price tag.

Malarkey
25-07-2013, 09:11 AM
I still think Norwich will jump in.

good guess

Heb 7:4
25-07-2013, 09:14 AM
QPR are bookies favourites not only to go up but to win the league.

And we were one of the bookies favourites to go down last season. Worked out well that eh? :)

TheJudge
25-07-2013, 09:21 AM
He's signing for Norwich now....

SwanEagle
25-07-2013, 09:23 AM
Good at least he's saved his reputation

palacea
25-07-2013, 09:23 AM
http://www.norwich.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=326105 haha, that is quite funny on QPR, surely a no brainer from now on.

Radders
25-07-2013, 09:58 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/8839581/harry-redknapp-not-expecting-any-hitches-in-qprs-bid-for-celtics-gary-hooper



Hahahahahaha! Unlucky Harry!

Danny boy
25-07-2013, 09:59 AM
rather he went to qpr tbh

Gerry from Sussex
25-07-2013, 10:03 AM
rather he went to qpr tbh

Me too. I think he's a good striker so going to one of our opponents is not best news of the day.

Radders
25-07-2013, 10:10 AM
He's decent yeah. But if we are gonna worry about Norwich signing Hooper then we may as well accept relegation now.

Scored lots for Scunny then scored lots for Celtic when most weeks, Celtics opponents aren't as strong as Championship sides let alone the Prem. Norwich also have VanWolfswilly & Becchio (the latter of which I don't personally rate but proven at Championship level at least!)

Anyway, he will do well to walk into a Prem side and just start banging in goals.

Psychokiller
25-07-2013, 10:11 AM
LOL I bet 'Arry is shitting his pants!

dannyboy1807
25-07-2013, 10:12 AM
QPR will sign Charlie Austin now.

Radders
25-07-2013, 10:30 AM
LOL I bet 'Arry is shitting his pants!

Rosie was negotiating the deal anyway not 'Arry

CPFC_DAVE77
25-07-2013, 10:30 AM
QPR will sign Charlie Austin now.

I'd agree with this.

Soarin' Eagles
25-07-2013, 01:04 PM
Norwich are making some good business.

Billyd
27-07-2013, 10:10 PM
Age my dear old thing. Gayle has the potential to be much better than Hooper.

Really? Based on what? their carears so far? You also make it sound like one is 18 the other is 30. Yet in reality they are less than 2 years apart.

Another top signing for Norwich :(

Malarkey
27-07-2013, 10:18 PM
Really? Based on what? their carears so far? You also make it sound like one is 18 the other is 30. Yet in reality they are less than 2 years apart.

Another top signing for Norwich :(

Yep. Hooper is yet to do it at a level this high, but he is less of a risk than Gayle. Only seen Gayle play twice live and he had impressed me both times, even today. Gonna stick a couple of quid on him for top scorer at 250/1. :)

sky dancer
25-09-2013, 08:14 AM
Two debut goals against Watford. :(

Ralph
25-09-2013, 08:18 AM
Cost me £100. Had West Ham, Watford & Leicester all to win in 90 mins.

With 1 minute to go I thought it was nailed on so spent the winnings on GTA5.

sydnsteve
25-09-2013, 10:13 AM
Good player. Prob better than Gayle on what I have seen so far. I doubt very much we could have got him Norwich have been after him for ages.

AJ
26-09-2013, 04:26 PM
Two debut goals against Watford. :(

Wasn't his debut. It was his first start, but he came on as sub against Villa last weekend.

Dave
20-04-2014, 11:21 AM
Bring me Gary Hooper, right now

Quipton
20-04-2014, 12:17 PM
x2

Stavros 69
20-04-2014, 01:06 PM
Not for me

maestro
20-04-2014, 01:08 PM
Id rather stick with Jerome.

Funk Butter
20-04-2014, 01:16 PM
Bring me Gary Hooper, right now

http://img.pandawhale.com/93132-nice-not-thrilling-but-nice-gi-YsMv.gif

CPFC_Fan
20-04-2014, 01:20 PM
I personally don't think we should get him.

theCoach
21-04-2014, 07:13 AM
loan swap with gayle maybe / maybe not come 31st august depending on other outcomes ...otherwise its no for me......

Gooders
21-04-2014, 07:26 AM
Not for me

X2

PALACEFAN
21-04-2014, 07:26 AM
Id rather stick with Jerome.

Me too.

Crozzy71
21-04-2014, 07:36 AM
Gary Hooper ? This is some kind of daft joke isn't it ???

Sceagle
21-04-2014, 05:20 PM
Goalscorer so yes please

917L
21-04-2014, 05:22 PM
Goalscorer so yes please

No upgrade on Glenn Murray, so no thanks

Danny boy
21-04-2014, 05:25 PM
Do people think we are Barcelona now because we stayed up and every top player will be jumping at the chance of joining us? Not sure how people can dismiss someone like Hooper who is a goal scorer

Billyd
21-04-2014, 05:42 PM
Been Norwich's best player this season and people actually saying no. Jesus.

Some major errors earlier this thread. 'Gayle is a better player' etc.

But now....

917L
21-04-2014, 05:51 PM
Been Norwich's best player this season and people actually saying no. Jesus.

Some major errors earlier this thread. 'Gayle is a better player' etc.

But now....


6 league goals all season (Yesterday being his first for 4 months), he's no better than GM, and doesnt have the pace required to play the CJ role

So why waste money on him?

stumpy feelers
21-04-2014, 05:54 PM
My Norwich supporting mate ain't too impressed with Hooper. Remember he was only playing in a pub league before Norwich.

Pistol Knight
21-04-2014, 05:55 PM
He used to play for the mighty Celtic.....................as for Gayle, we dont really know about him do we.......give the kid a chance

Billyd
21-04-2014, 07:23 PM
He used to play for the mighty Celtic.....................as for Gayle, we dont really know about him do we.......give the kid a chance

3 managers have. They dont pick him.

Dave
21-04-2014, 07:25 PM
No upgrade on Glenn Murray, so no thanks

Wait, what?

Pistol Knight
21-04-2014, 07:31 PM
3 managers have. They dont pick him.

He would have been a better sub than Murray in the last 3 weeks IMO

David Amsalem
21-04-2014, 07:39 PM
Hooper has hardly set the world alight at Norwich this season. Plus, scoring goals in Scotland doesn't make you a good player.

1 Kris Commons Celtic 23 - I actually quite like Commons, but he's a midfielder.
2 John Sutton Motherwell 21 - Didn't make the grade at Wycombe or Millwall.
3 Kris Boyd Kilmarnock 19 - Didn't make the grade at Middlesborough.
3 Steve May St Johnstone 19 - untested to be fair.
5 William McKay Inverness Caledonian Thistle 18 - did ok for Northampton, in League 2.
6 Anthony Stokes Celtic 14 - rubbish for us.
7 Steven Thompson St Mirren 13 - not particularly outstanding at Cardiff or Burnley. Now old.
8 Niall McGinn Aberdeen 12 - was ok for Brentford in League One.

Kosowski
21-04-2014, 07:42 PM
No better than what we already have. I could score 10 a season playing for Celtic.

Danny boy
21-04-2014, 07:45 PM
We shouldn't have got Ledley because he played for Celtic

pauldrulez
21-04-2014, 07:47 PM
Average player.

David Amsalem
21-04-2014, 07:50 PM
We shouldn't have got Ledley because he played for Celtic

Ledley was better than what we already had.

917L
21-04-2014, 07:50 PM
Wait, what?


How many do you think Glenn would have scored for Celtic?

At least as many as Hooper did, with ease, IMO

CaterhamEagle
21-04-2014, 07:53 PM
Decent, but we need to be looking for someone with pace and graft to work tirelessly like Jerome has this season.

eagle69
21-04-2014, 07:54 PM
6 league goals all season (Yesterday being his first for 4 months), he's no better than GM, and doesnt have the pace required to play the CJ role

So why waste money on him?

SERIOUS QUESTION

If Dwight Gayle was to bulk up over the summer would any body even consider him?

I defo would , a natural goal scorer IMO , loads of pace to spare & knows where the net is(Liverpool & Aston Villa both Away)

Feel he hasnt been played purely because of the situation we were in.

Thoughts?

orp pisshead1
21-04-2014, 07:55 PM
6 league goals all season (Yesterday being his first for 4 months), he's no better than GM, and doesnt have the pace required to play the CJ role

So why waste money on him?

Agree and certainly no better than Gayle imo.

trufan
21-04-2014, 08:00 PM
Decent, but we need to be looking for someone with pace and graft to work tirelessly like Jerome has this season.

Agree entirely. The guy has run his backside off for us defending from the front this season. It's very noticeable how much more time opponents get at the back once he's been subbed off. Any new additions simply need to replicate his effort while also racking up goals. Simple, eh? Must be hundreds of them out there for TP to snap up. :o

917L
21-04-2014, 08:04 PM
SERIOUS QUESTION

If Dwight Gayle was to bulk up over the summer would any body even consider him?

I defo would , a natural goal scorer IMO , loads of pace to spare & knows where the net is(Liverpool & Aston Villa both Away)

Feel he hasnt been played purely because of the situation we were in.

Thoughts?

I wouldnt, at least not in that role. Then again I'll admit Ive never rated him.

He has contributed though and obviously scored a great goal at Villa which was hugely important for us

Be interesting to see what TP does over the summer with transfers in and out

orp pisshead1
21-04-2014, 08:06 PM
SERIOUS QUESTION

If Dwight Gayle was to bulk up over the summer would any body even consider him?

I defo would , a natural goal scorer IMO , loads of pace to spare & knows where the net is(Liverpool & Aston Villa both Away)

Feel he hasnt been played purely because of the situation we were in.

Thoughts?

Spot on, watch how he strikes the ball the lad knows exactly what he's doing:p.
Ps you forgot WBA away in cup :-).

eagle69
21-04-2014, 08:08 PM
I wouldnt, at least not in that role. Then again I'll admit Ive never rated him.

He has contributed though and obviously scored a great goal at Villa which was hugely important for us

Be interesting to see what TP does over the summer with transfers in and out

Only reason I said 'bulk up' is that if he did he would'nt be so easily pushed off the ball , which I think is Jerome's biggest asset.

Dave
21-04-2014, 08:12 PM
SERIOUS QUESTION

If Dwight Gayle was to bulk up over the summer would any body even consider him?

I defo would , a natural goal scorer IMO , loads of pace to spare & knows where the net is(Liverpool & Aston Villa both Away)

Feel he hasnt been played purely because of the situation we were in.

Thoughts?

doesn't have to be either or

If Jerome and CM are not with us next term we are super light up front.

It's pretty amazing how far up the league we are given our lack of goals from the forwards

just a thought

Crozzy71
21-04-2014, 08:18 PM
Gary Hooper is no better than we have. That's a fact.

At the moment we already have 3 strikers who aren't / won't be prolific in the Prem.

Jerome - strong and powerful and leads the line well but doesn't score enough. If we can get him for £1m or so on sensible wages I'd sign him.

Gayle - is I think the longer term likely replacement for Jerome if we don't sign him permanently. He is quick and will have learnt under TP. If he muscles up in the summer he could do well. I wouldn't want to reply solely on him but he could be a good impact player.

Murray - does not and will not fit into TP's current preferred style of play. If we don't change that in the summer and we buy a striker or two I can see him being sold. He needs service and isn't mobile enough to lead the line solo. I liken it to his first season with us under Freedman when he fed on herald and scored 4 goals.

I need a hell of a lot of convincing that Hooper is better than what we have and what else may be out there.

cpfclife
21-04-2014, 08:37 PM
SERIOUS QUESTION

If Dwight Gayle was to bulk up over the summer would any body even consider him?

I defo would , a natural goal scorer IMO , loads of pace to spare & knows where the net is(Liverpool & Aston Villa both Away)

Feel he hasnt been played purely because of the situation we were in.

Thoughts?

Apparently the reason he's not getting into the team is due to his poor footballing brain/positioning not his size, but id imagine that is a factor also

Woosie
21-04-2014, 08:50 PM
Do people think we are Barcelona now because we stayed up and every top player will be jumping at the chance of joining us? Not sure how people can dismiss someone like Hooper who is a goal scorer

Do you just chat shit for the fun of it, or do you actually believe what you write? If you actually bothered to write more than a one line response and backed up your arguments, people might respect your opinions a bit more.

What has Hooper done to be considered a player that we must sign, or must think would find it very difficult to join us?

Thefunkymonk
21-04-2014, 08:56 PM
I like hooper, he is a natural finisher, but more of a poacher. I think he would score goals in PL but he is playing in a very poor Norwich team. Saying that I don't think he's what we need if we carry on with our current set up. We need someone who will put a shift in and have ability to hold the ball up. Hooper isn't the answer. I like the look of Gomis from Lyon.

Dave
03-05-2014, 06:04 PM
bump

Dave
21-05-2014, 04:32 PM
@joe16led @Adam2Matthews jamesforrest http://t.co/X2ShrWx3MW

sl6 Eagle
21-05-2014, 04:46 PM
Mates from there time at Celtic together so off they go to Vegas, nothing in this at all.

EEEEEEagles
21-05-2014, 04:56 PM
We have to raise our sights now.
If you want to grow as a club, you have to spend. Gary Hooper ? Not good enough anymore I'm afraid. There is always a huge problem getting the right players but if last season taught us anything it is that you don't panic buy average players.

Don't_care
21-05-2014, 05:07 PM
We have to raise our sights now.
If you want to grow as a club, you have to spend. Gary Hooper ? Not good enough anymore I'm afraid. There is always a huge problem getting the right players but if last season taught us anything it is that you don't panic buy average players.

You also don't write off good players as being shit because they had one average season in a struggling team.

Dave
21-05-2014, 05:18 PM
You also don't write off good players as being shit because they had one average season in a struggling team.

Cap doffed sir

Crozzy71
21-05-2014, 05:55 PM
Hooper. Nooooooooooo.

spuddy
21-05-2014, 10:18 PM
I actually quite like hooper & think he's a decent finisher.

I'm a little concerned with the number of people saying we should sign Jerome I'm sorry but he is pony. Yes he runs around & chases people but that should not detract from the fact that he can't hit a bloody barn door & considering we don't create tons of chances it's worrying that the chances we create I hope don't fall to our 'centre forward' Cameron Jerome.

If people think we should sign him just because he runs around a lot then we might as well sign mo farah

Kai
22-05-2014, 06:13 AM
I actually quite like hooper & think he's a decent finisher.

I'm a little concerned with the number of people saying we should sign Jerome I'm sorry but he is pony. Yes he runs around & chases people but that should not detract from the fact that he can't hit a bloody barn door & considering we don't create tons of chances it's worrying that the chances we create I hope don't fall to our 'centre forward' Cameron Jerome.

If people think we should sign him just because he runs around a lot then we might as well sign mo farah

:p

If Jerome had had a decent touch of the ball we would've scored many more goals this year. Jerome is not what we need nor is Hooper although he might be a slight upgrade.

stumpy feelers
22-05-2014, 06:30 AM
Work with a Norwich fan. He's not impressed with Hooper. So its a no from me.

Palestinian
22-05-2014, 06:42 AM
:p

If Jerome had had a decent touch of the ball we would've scored many more goals this year. Jerome is not what we need nor is Hooper although he might be a slight upgrade.

And if that he had that touch in front of goal we would not have seen him in red and blue last season. Not sure about Hooper's ability to play in the way that Jerome has.

N Herts Eagle
22-05-2014, 07:08 AM
Jerome was part of the system last year and the work he did in occupying defences was brillant by tying up and moving off the two centre halfs it created more space for the wing play of Punch Bolasie , then Ward and Mariappa. He was a major part of the successful fight. He is not by a long way a natural goalscrorer but thats not the point nor the worry if goals come from elsewhere in the team and your winning games, and as a player your contributing to that success Jerome certainly was. The interesting part of pre season is to see how TP adjusts the formation tactics and the players used in the system to take us into the new season. There is the Gayle/Murray option which I can see being used often from the bench not sure it will be Plan A.

EEEEEEagles
22-05-2014, 07:34 AM
You also don't write off good players as being shit because they had one average season in a struggling team.

Never said he was "shit". He doesn't offer more than we have already in my opinion.

spuddy
22-05-2014, 07:45 AM
Jerome was part of the system last year and the work he did in occupying defences was brillant by tying up and moving off the two centre halfs it created more space for the wing play of Punch Bolasie , then Ward and Mariappa. He was a major part of the successful fight. He is not by a long way a natural goalscrorer but thats not the point nor the worry if goals come from elsewhere in the team and your winning games, and as a player your contributing to that success Jerome certainly was. The interesting part of pre season is to see how TP adjusts the formation tactics and the players used in the system to take us into the new season. There is the Gayle/Murray option which I can see being used often from the bench not sure it will be Plan A.



I agree completely that the work rate of Jerome was in the main very very good but for me that should be a given of any player. Yes he had a sometimes thankless job trying to occupy 2 centre halfs as well as the full backs on occasion & his efforts were admirable.

My point is he's a centre forward & call my old fashioned but I want my centre forward to be a goal threat I don't want to be in a position where when we get a chance the last person I want it to fall to is our centre forward, usually you want the chance to fall to him.

Yes he worked well in the system but I'm sorry he got 2 bloody goals. Over the years I've seen akinbiyi, Andrew & wilbraham work hard & chase defenders but they, like Jerome, were far from a goal threat.

Nigelbrag
22-05-2014, 09:02 AM
If we are to bring in Hooper, we must get it out of our system that he is a replacement for Jerome, he's not, both very different types. We all know the strength's and weakness of Jerome, as for Hooper with the right setup is a finisher, so to see the best of him will need a physical presence alongside. This could be Jerome (why not) as he has proved he can do that job, or somebody like Matt Smith (Leeds) aged 23 I think, so could develop into that role. Or why not Murray or Chamakh alongside, but that would possibly need Two upfront to see us most goal effective. Personally I would like to see us adapt to or experiment in pre season a 3-4-1-2 system to see if that works. We Must be bolder next season, as we wont get away with scoring so few goals again. Should we go along with the majority of our current players then this is how we could start next season.

-----------------------------------Speroni----------------------------------

-------------Ward------------------Dann-------------------Delaney----------------

------Redmond--------Jedinak-------------Ledley------------Zaha----------

----------------------------------Puncheon--------------------------------

-------------------------Hooper----------------Chamakh----------------

knowlesyUCLA
22-05-2014, 09:41 AM
If we are to bring in Hooper, we must get it out of our system that he is a replacement for Jerome, he's not, both very different types. We all know the strength's and weakness of Jerome, as for Hooper with the right setup is a finisher, so to see the best of him will need a physical presence alongside. This could be Jerome (why not) as he has proved he can do that job, or somebody like Matt Smith (Leeds) aged 23 I think, so could develop into that role. Or why not Murray or Chamakh alongside, but that would possibly need Two upfront to see us most goal effective. Personally I would like to see us adapt to or experiment in pre season a 3-4-1-2 system to see if that works. We Must be bolder next season, as we wont get away with scoring so few goals again. Should we go along with the majority of our current players then this is how we could start next season.

-----------------------------------Speroni----------------------------------

-------------Ward------------------Dann-------------------Delaney----------------

------Redmond--------Jedinak-------------Ledley------------Zaha----------

----------------------------------Puncheon--------------------------------

-------------------------Hooper----------------Chamakh----------------

Sorry but I don’t see the logic in that formation or team selection at all.

There is no chance that Pulis will move away from the solid back 4. Can you imagine Delaney playing in the position you suggest, with no full back to protect him, and Zaha in front of him?! Pure carnage would ensue. We will stick to the current 4 2 3 1 with the ball and 4 5 1 without it, and so we should.

Tactically, if we need goals he will shift to a 4 4 2 with Jedi and the KG replacement in the middle and Ledley pushed out left, Puncheon on the right. Similar to how we played against Liverpool with 20 to go.

But those will be our tactical options, and I am very happy with them. We scored 3 away against Cardiff and Everton, 3 at home to Liverpool (not hard), and a couple away at Fulham. We were scoring enough goals towards the end of last season and we would’ve had more with a Hooper up front.

gilesy14
22-05-2014, 09:45 AM
If we are to bring in Hooper, we must get it out of our system that he is a replacement for Jerome, he's not, both very different types. We all know the strength's and weakness of Jerome, as for Hooper with the right setup is a finisher, so to see the best of him will need a physical presence alongside. This could be Jerome (why not) as he has proved he can do that job, or somebody like Matt Smith (Leeds) aged 23 I think, so could develop into that role. Or why not Murray or Chamakh alongside, but that would possibly need Two upfront to see us most goal effective. Personally I would like to see us adapt to or experiment in pre season a 3-4-1-2 system to see if that works. We Must be bolder next season, as we wont get away with scoring so few goals again. Should we go along with the majority of our current players then this is how we could start next season.

-----------------------------------Speroni----------------------------------

-------------Ward------------------Dann-------------------Delaney----------------

------Redmond--------Jedinak-------------Ledley------------Zaha----------

----------------------------------Puncheon--------------------------------

-------------------------Hooper----------------Chamakh----------------

Redmond & Zaha as wing backs?! We might as well just pull our pants down at the starting whistle & succumb to the inevitable shafting we'd be about to receive.

Chris Leitch
22-05-2014, 09:59 AM
Im up for this. This guy oozes decent.

Nigelbrag
22-05-2014, 10:14 AM
Redmond & Zaha as wing backs?! We might as well just pull our pants down at the starting whistle & succumb to the inevitable shafting we'd be about to receive.

Did we not say the same when Puncheon and Bolasie was named as our wingers, powder puff defending with those Two. And what was the outcome when Pulis got to work on them, a total transformation. Should we sign Redmond and Zaha, rest assured they will be a lot more committed to their defensive duties. Yes I accept the defence will be more exposed, but when your play becomes more expansive in a new system then attacking players must contribute to defensive duties. The system is similar to that of Liverpool and more so Hull, who for a newly promoted club did very well until the last few weeks. Drastic changes will always raise caution, also I am not saying TP will buy into this setup, just my view of changes we will need so as to surprise others in our important Second season in the premiership.
As I mentioned we must be bolder as we certainly wont get away with scoring so few goals again, to do so means gambling to a degree.

adrenalin john
22-05-2014, 10:28 AM
Has less pace and power than Jerome
Less scoring ability and pace than Gayle
Worse touch, skill, hold up, and link up play than Chamakh
We already have Murray

No from me

Nigelbrag
22-05-2014, 10:28 AM
Sorry but I don’t see the logic in that formation or team selection at all.

There is no chance that Pulis will move away from the solid back 4. Can you imagine Delaney playing in the position you suggest, with no full back to protect him, and Zaha in front of him?! Pure carnage would ensue. We will stick to the current 4 2 3 1 with the ball and 4 5 1 without it, and so we should.

Tactically, if we need goals he will shift to a 4 4 2 with Jedi and the KG replacement in the middle and Ledley pushed out left, Puncheon on the right. Similar to how we played against Liverpool with 20 to go.

But those will be our tactical options, and I am very happy with them. We scored 3 away against Cardiff and Everton, 3 at home to Liverpool (not hard), and a couple away at Fulham. We were scoring enough goals towards the end of last season and we would’ve had more with a Hooper up front.

I do accept the valid points you raise, however do read my response to what I said to "gilsey14" to realise why I suggested what I did.