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lees eagles
21-08-2002, 02:48 AM
Martin Grainger is up for sale at Birmingham and I know we have been linked with him over the summer. Luton couldn't afford his 6k per week wages, surely he could add more quality and depth to the squad.

Here is the link http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=104154&clid=41&cpid=8&title=Luton+fail+to+land+top+flight+trio

I think that with Harrison out we need cover for Granville if any injuries occur.

pete eagle
21-08-2002, 02:50 AM
no thanks, Granville is there and Gray and Frampton offer enough cover in my opinion and Fleming can always play at left back as well (i remember one of his best games vs Wimbledon last season was at left back)

What?
21-08-2002, 03:25 AM
I think he is warm, sounds good to me!

Eagle
21-08-2002, 04:24 AM
I wouldnt be at all aurprised now then that if Mullins does go to Birmingham then Martin Grainger could well be part of that deal now. Remember when Adebola signed, he apparently told someone that Trevor was after himself(Dele), Michael Johnson, and Martin Grainger.

What?
21-08-2002, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by Eagle
I wouldnt be at all aurprised now then that if Mullins does go to Birmingham then Martin Grainger could well be part of that deal now. Remember when Adebola signed, he apparently told someone that Trevor was after himself(Dele), Michael Johnson, and Martin Grainger.

I do remember! Hmmmmmmm, interesting!

rednbluevegas
21-08-2002, 04:54 AM
Looking at it now it could be read that Derry is Mullins replacement for the midfield spot and that Grainger could indeed be coming in to add some depth at left back/wing back/midfield.
One thing for sure, I don't think the squad movement is over and whilst I am of the opinion that Mullins should not be sold (he has still so much potential), all of TF's moves in the market have so far been for the better. I'll wait and see.

igl
21-08-2002, 12:37 PM
Martin Grainger would be a very good addition to the squad... in my opinion a much better defender than Granville.

BVB Bob
21-08-2002, 01:04 PM
Total loony! Could liven things up. Not a bad player either. Not sure if he's better than what we've got, but as mentioned elsewhere, if Mullins is off to Brum, bet you we see Grainger as part of the deal.

Steve in Phoenix
21-08-2002, 01:05 PM
We need a report from Brentford fans.

I dont remember seeing Grainger play but he was very highly rated when he was at Brentford. Is he a FK specialist? Is he fast? Maybe he could complement Granville down the left - it seems Granville has been constantly isolated from the comments I have heard. I feel Granville may be best as the left side of three central defenders and maybe Grainger would do a better job as a wing back instead of Gray.

Justy C
21-08-2002, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Steve in Phoenix
I feel Granville may be best as the left side of three central defenders

Good shout, his lack of pace might not be quite so noticeable there and he has looked reasonably comfortable when he's played in that position. However, on the Danny Granville thread, someone posted that they'd heard he was off to West Brom. Only a rumour I know but it fits with the rumour we're about to sign Martin Grainger which seemed puzzling when it first came out pre-season.

OKnotOK
21-08-2002, 02:28 PM
I think he'd be a top addition.

Granville is one of the weaker areas of the team for me. And Grainger can take a wicked freekick as well (though Danny Butterfield has already improved us in that area).

At leftback at the moment, we have Granville with (injured) Harrison and Frampton as cover. Both of whom are currently too $hit to play even if they were both fit. Granville shored us up in comparison to Harrison at leftback but he is still not up to the standard I would hope to have.

And Grainger is.

zonin2000
21-08-2002, 02:37 PM
Is he not first choice at Birmingham- played against Arsenal, who would Birmingham play at left back?

lees eagles
21-08-2002, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by zonin2000
Is he not first choice at Birmingham- played against Arsenal, who would Birmingham play at left back?

On the Birmingham rivals messageboard they think Mullins will play on the left hand side of defence.

zonin2000
21-08-2002, 03:10 PM
Although Mullins could play on the left of a 3 man defence, he cannot play as a left wing-back or even as a left full back. By selling Grainger, Birmingham would be replacing a left footed, left sided player with a central-midfielder-cum-sweeper. Bruce, unfortunately, would not make such a mistake.

Baloo
21-08-2002, 03:36 PM
I don't think we would afford his 6k per week wages, either. And Mullins as left back as his replacement? You're 'aving a larf.

Scoot
21-08-2002, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by zonin2000
Is he not first choice at Birmingham- played against Arsenal, who would Birmingham play at left back?

Gray as a wing back when they sign him :D

anti-addick
21-08-2002, 03:51 PM
Why is "Grainger" and "quality" mentioned in the same sentence? And have you noticed how it looks like, as I predicted, we are slowly importing the Birmingham team here. Let me remind you that this is the same team that failed to get promoted year after year. Yep, we're stuck in this division for a number of years to come.

BVB Bob
21-08-2002, 03:57 PM
Interesting to see the comments about Granville as a left centre back. If my memory serves me right, the reason Man City wanted shot of him was cos he didn't perform well as a wing back (the system they were playing at the time). Maybe we will see him move to the centre (where most City fans admitted he was adequate) & Grainger will be the left back. In other words, Granny replaces "missing" Hayden.

Jaffa
21-08-2002, 04:01 PM
Birmingham got promoted last year so we are importing players with experience of getting promoted.

Crystal Palace have not been promoted recently and therefore your logic should signal doom for Birmingham who are signing these players unable to get promoted in the first division.

Benzhiyi
21-08-2002, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by anti-addick

Let me remind you that this is the same team that failed to get promoted year after year.


It's also the same team that made the Playoffs four or five years in a row. In comparison to us, who haven't even got close since we last came down from the Prem...





:rolleyes:

Jaffa
21-08-2002, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Benzhiyi


It's also the same team that made the Playoffs four or five years in a row. In comparison to us, who haven't even got close since we last came down from the Prem...





:rolleyes:

Anti-Addick, along with the majority of other posters on this BBS would seemingly not be happy with that sort of success.

Brod
21-08-2002, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by anti-addick
Why is "Grainger" and "quality" mentioned in the same sentence? And have you noticed how it looks like, as I predicted, we are slowly importing the Birmingham team here. Let me remind you that this is the same team that failed to get promoted year after year. Yep, we're stuck in this division for a number of years to come.

Sorry, is that a spelling mistake? Shouldn't it be "consistently finished higher than us year after year"?

NewRoadBee
21-08-2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Steve in Phoenix
We need a report from Brentford fans.

I dont remember seeing Grainger play but he was very highly rated when he was at Brentford. Is he a FK specialist? Is he fast? Maybe he could complement Granville down the left - it seems Granville has been constantly isolated from the comments I have heard. I feel Granville may be best as the left side of three central defenders and maybe Grainger would do a better job as a wing back instead of Gray.

Grainger is quality. Sold for a paltry 350,000 to Brum about 6 years ago (not sure if it was Fry or Francis).

He is indeed a hot head. Once fell out with Bees fans after the team put in a particularly abject display at Millmoor a few years ago, responding personally to jeers from the travelling Bees (aimed at entire team) with a V sign. Showed he cared though :)

Grainger has a great left peg and scored a lot of goals as set piece expert. An excellent defender, captaincy material but always likely to get a few yellow cards and the odd red one.

I am surprised that he wants to leave Brum (I think he signed a long term contract last year after Blackburn showed interest) after waiting so long to get to the Premiership.

SHiggins
21-08-2002, 04:59 PM
The idea of moving Granville as the left of 3 centre backs sounds a good one, but with TF generally going with 4-4-2 not sure if that will happen. If we play 5-3-2 surely Gray would play on the left even if we did sign Grainger. The other option is dropping Granville and I dont think he deserves that, atleast yet, and as TF only signed him a few months ago I cant see him doing that.

Jason
21-08-2002, 07:15 PM
Ok, radical idea time ! (I've also posted this on the Mullins thread, as it's relevant there as well)

How about we sell Mullins to Brum for 2m + Grainger for arguments sake. We then go and buy Martin Rowlands (who is alledgedly available at 400K). At a stroke, we have another left good left back, meaning competition for that place. As mentioned, if prefferred, Granville can play on the left hand side of a centre back three. Suddenly, we've got more options at the back , and a stronger overall squad. In addition, adding Martin Rowlands could solve the "creative midfielder" problem.

Overall then, we'd have 1.6m in the bank (there's no doubt that we will need that money, as while the "Jordan is skint and the club's going broke" brigade should be silenced for a while by now, ALL Div 1 teams will run at a loss this year!), AND a stronger squad (Grainger + Rowlands between them give us more than Mullins in my view). Even if the eventual deal was closer to 1.5m + Grainger, it would still be good business, as we'd have 1.1m and a better squad !.

Still, the above is far to sensible for Palace, and even if it happens, the usual suspects would still pop up and moan !!!!.