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WorthingEagle
28-09-2003, 11:17 AM
Taking account of all the ratings given on the BBS for all games, here's how the players have performed so far.

Pos/Name/Appearances/Goals/Average

1. Cedric Berthelin 7 - 0 - 7.29
2. Danny Butterfield 11 - 1 -7.27
3. Ben Watson 9 - 1 - 7.22
4. Tony Popovic 5 - 0 - 7.20
5. Dougie Freedman 7 - 6 - 7.14
6. Matt Clarke 4 - 0 - 7.00
7. Andy Johnson 11 - 5 - 7.00
8. Darren Powell 8 - 0 - 7.00
9. Aki Riihilahti 7 - 0 - 6.86
10. Wayne Routledge 9 - 0 - 6.56
11. Hayden Mullins 8 - 0 - 6.38
12. Shaun Derry 9 - 1 - 6.30
13. Gary Borrowdale 7 - 0 - 6.29
14. Michael Hughes 8 - 1 - 6.25
15. Jamie Smith 9 - 0 - 6.22
16. Tommy Black 5 - 0 - 6.20
17. Neil Shipperley 10 - 1 - 6.10
18. Curtis Fleming 5 - 0 - 6.00
19. Kit Symons 6 - 0 - 5.50

Conclusions - we are relying far too much on Berthelin to keep us in games. His high ratings stem from having a lot of saves to make rather than commanding his area by taking crosses.

Ben Watson is putting a lot of our "senior" players to shame and should start every game.

Neil Shipperley clearly isn't fit and his performances and goal ratio is suffering as a result.

Kit Symons is past it and we need to get Tony Popovic fit.

Jamie Smith's low ratings are mostly a result of being played out of position.

Michael Hughes isn't having the effect everyone thought he would, instead of taking games by the scruff of the neck he's just blending in with our other under-achievers.

As our most consistent outfield player, well done to Danny Butterfield. Terrible against PSV and rightly hauled off, he has reacted brilliantly and is being let down by the majority of his team-mates.

Gerry from Sussex
28-09-2003, 11:24 AM
Stirling work WorthingEagle - how long did that take you?

Looks like, Symons apart, they are all much of a muchness.

Benzhiyi
28-09-2003, 11:27 AM
Great thread, and it certainly does match how the players have performed this season - DB has been our best player, with AJ and (when he was fit) DF. Popo was good before he got injured, Watson has that touch of class, and Bertie has been superb.

On the other hand Shipps, Black, Smith, Hughes and Mullins have all been disappointing - and again the table seems to show that.

WorthingEagle
28-09-2003, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Gerry from Sussex
Stirling work WorthingEagle - how long did that take you?

Looks like, Symons apart, they are all much of a muchness.

not long, just 10 minutes every sunday morning reading through the post-match threads and putting the ratings in a spreadsheet.

If you were playing Champ Manager you'd be looking to ship out half the squad based on those ratings.

Gerry from Sussex
28-09-2003, 11:29 AM
Average really is the right word to describe this lot

AJ
28-09-2003, 02:51 PM
Sorry, total ballox... How come there is not a single player below 5, when we are 15th in the league?
That shows a team average of over 6.5, which is probably too high.

wholethedougout
28-09-2003, 02:59 PM
A sensible and well thought out thread.

If only the players could apply themselves as well as Worthing Eagle!

Wouldn't disagree with the aggregate ratings or the comments made.

Ruskin Old Boy
28-09-2003, 03:04 PM
Great piece of work Worthing - well done. Doubt if anyone from Selhurst will take it seriously (fingers crossed they might though). Worth a write up in one of the fanzines IMHO.

Ruskin Old Boy
28-09-2003, 03:06 PM
A PS for AJ - it might look a bit over generous but nowhere near as geenrous as the marks given by the Croydon Advertiser which gives ridiculously high marks for every game.

charltonhater
29-09-2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by WorthingEagle
Taking account of all the ratings given on the BBS for all games, here's how the players have performed so far.


is that done by taking the average rating for each game divided by the number of games we've played or done by addinbg every single rating divided by the number of ratings?

Gooders
29-09-2003, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by AJ
Sorry, total ballox... How come there is not a single player below 5, when we are 15th in the league?
That shows a team average of over 6.5, which is probably too high.

Because, by and large, we are all too generous with our ratings on here.

The point is not the actual number, but the position of each player in relation to everyone else - and in that respect Worthings statistics seem to bear out the majority opinion, as highlighted by Benzhiyi.

Scroatey
30-09-2003, 02:21 PM
Top stuff! It is indeed worth noting that these rating's aren't for comparison with other teams, but for comparing our squad.

It seems anyone below Darren Powell hasn't really done what we would expect of them yet this season. Maybe it's a little harsh on Routledge and Borrowdale but for consistency in games it's probably true from what I've seen so far!

Adam_Eagle
30-09-2003, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by WorthingEagle

Jamie Smith's low ratings are mostly a result of being played out of position.



And the fact hes sh1te.

christopher
30-09-2003, 04:58 PM
Good stuff. How often will we be graced with one of these?

HarryTheMan
30-09-2003, 07:44 PM
Good work worthington old boy

keep up the good work

Walrus
01-10-2003, 03:24 PM
Ah. I thought this was a thread about Palace players being average.

Hmm, after re-reading it that's the point Worthing is trying to make:p

Nice job sir. Big up to Danny Butterfield.

Gooders
01-10-2003, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by WorthingEagle

Conclusions -

How about - despite how much we were all looking forward to Mullins return, it's interesting to note that we won all three league games before he came back, and haven't won one since.