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Madden
03-09-2004, 03:50 AM
Anthony Danze, 20 year old midfielder, formerly with Australian NSL Champions Perth Glory, is currently on trial and scored in a practice match against Arsenal yesterday.
He has just returned from the Olympics where he replaced Tim Cahill, who was suspended, against Iraq.
With the disbanding of the NSL this year all players contracts terminated at the end of June.
Another player I feel is worth looking at is Jade North, a pacy fullback and team mate at Perth and with the Olympics team.

http://endlesssoccer.tripod.com/futurestars/oceania/australia/anthony_danze.htm

oz_da II
03-09-2004, 03:55 AM
Agreed, North looked quite handy in the Olympics.

chelmsfordeagle
03-09-2004, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by Madden
Anthony Danze, 20 year old midfielder, formerly with Australian NSL Champions Perth Glory, is currently on trial and scored in a practice match against Arsenal yesterday.
He has just returned from the Olympics where he replaced Tim Cahill, who was suspended, against Iraq.
With the disbanding of the NSL this year all players contracts terminated at the end of June.
Another player I feel is worth looking at is Jade North, a pacy fullback and team mate at Perth and with the Olympics team.

http://endlesssoccer.tripod.com/futurestars/oceania/australia/anthony_danze.htm

are either of them left footed?

Sires
03-09-2004, 07:00 AM
Let us hope so but signing another player before our next game especially a young pacy Australian would be handy because who need a 32 year old Petit or however old he is.

Boyandy
03-09-2004, 08:01 AM
I thought this was a thread about the bloke who used to be in `Who's The Boss?`!!

lordanton
03-09-2004, 09:32 AM
Were there any players in the NSL that were decent left backs/left wingers as well?

Stubby
03-09-2004, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by Sires
Let us hope so but signing another player before our next game especially a young pacy Australian would be handy because who need a 32 year old Petit or however old he is.


Thought the transfer window was now slammed shut???:sob:

Lion
03-09-2004, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Stubby
Thought the transfer window was now slammed shut???:sob:

Not for players who's contracts are expired.

Scroatey
03-09-2004, 09:52 AM
The thread on the "behind closed doors" match seemed very upbeat about this guy being with us. Based on his age and origins it could be a very sensible signing, a player we can afford, who could even do the job in the top flight here. Fingers crossed.

And I love the idea he replaced Cahill in the Aussie team!!!! How ironic would that be if we signed Danze and he was even better than Cahill - at least Millwall wouldn't have got any of our hard earned cash!

mojoeagle
03-09-2004, 10:05 AM
tasty

Raoul Duke
03-09-2004, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by lordanton
Were there any players in the NSL that were decent left backs/left wingers as well?

The best you could hope to get from the NSL is young upcoming players as any decent players will usually ply their trade in Europe or Asia.

Danze is a player that has shuned playing overseas at too young an age probably due to not wanting to leave his family at a young age. Brett Emerton has claimed in interviews that he benefited from not leaving Oz too early and building a reputation in our local league. Guys like him are very rare and most decent talent is poached at an early age.

Raoul Duke
03-09-2004, 10:19 AM
If we do sign him his song will have to be to the tune of Elton Johns 'Tiny Dancer':

'Hold me closer Tony Danze'

zonin2000
03-09-2004, 10:29 AM
YES RD!!

nottsunieagle
03-09-2004, 10:31 AM
let's hope he's a lefty then! could be a useful midfield acquisition

Oxford Eagle
03-09-2004, 10:42 AM
A new midfield quintet? [see next post]

Oxford Eagle
03-09-2004, 10:45 AM
Wooooo

AJ8
03-09-2004, 11:02 AM
yea i used to watch him in Taxi...

Oisin
03-09-2004, 11:04 AM
Anthony Danze



Position : Midfielder

Date of birth : 15 March, 1984

Team : Perth Glory (Australia)

Nationality : Australia

Notes : Turned down a move to Southampton, preferring to prove himself in Australian league first. Signed instead for Perth Glory in Australia for 2000/01 season from Western Australia state side ECU Joondalup. Has been involved in first team, becoming youngest player to represent the club. Australian U/17 international and scored two goals at the World U/17 Championships in 2001.

johnnytemper
03-09-2004, 11:11 AM
Might he have a problem with a work permit?

Louis1974
03-09-2004, 11:32 AM
Apparantly he played for us against an arsenal XI for us and we beat them 3-0 so we have broken Arsenals unbeaten run!!!!! And he scored.

Details on HOL.

paulos99
03-09-2004, 11:55 AM
He's obviously interested in joining us if he turned out for our reserves

Dobbo
03-09-2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by johnnytemper
Might he have a problem with a work permit?
I'm sure he'll have an Italian grandmother somewhere............

hernehilleagle
03-09-2004, 12:17 PM
Would be a good signing

Oisin
03-09-2004, 12:26 PM
More info on the player here http://www.perthglory.com.au/

RDSdaEAGLE
03-09-2004, 12:29 PM
http://www.perthglory.com.au/images/player_numbers/8_large.jpg

Anthony Danze
Number: 8
Position: Central Midfield
DOB: 15/3/1984
Height: 183 cm
Weight: 76 kg
Honours:
Australian u/17's
History:
Youngster who worked his way into the match day squad last season. An interrupted pre-season last year saw him fall back but he showed plenty of determination and big things are expected of him. Gets forward well and can be a real threat around goal.

Oisin
03-09-2004, 12:31 PM
Perth glory BBS (I think) http://www.gloryboys.net/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=1

ebyeeckeagle
03-09-2004, 01:49 PM
Without the swear delete I notice.........

What?
03-09-2004, 01:57 PM
I like the sound of this one actually.

winston the dog
03-09-2004, 03:44 PM
looks a little like salad with that hair cut.
without watching him play he sounds the part, and is young so will not have a problem fitting into the training regime.
let's hope he's quality, and sign's for palace.

Jimbo ?
03-09-2004, 05:27 PM
sounds promising, young as well, so sign him up

BringBackSasa
03-09-2004, 05:31 PM
I'm all for equal opportunities, but signing a one-armed player is just silly.

chav_hater
03-09-2004, 05:33 PM
And wearing that kit as well, tut tut. Mind you, not as bad as last year's effort...

silver
03-09-2004, 06:48 PM
nice one

Sires
03-09-2004, 07:33 PM
Here is a picture hope it works

http://www.perthglory.com.au/images/player_numbers/8_large.jpg

I.Flyer
03-09-2004, 07:44 PM
He's not the guy the Fugitive was talking about, is he! ;)

Sussex Eagle
03-09-2004, 08:06 PM
Looks like something out of Home and Away - like the sound of him, though. Surely worth a gamble as he can't be wanting big money.

lordanton
03-09-2004, 10:32 PM
As long as he's better than jack from Neighbours then we should be ok. :D

Madden
04-09-2004, 02:15 AM
From todays West Australian.
Jonathon Cook

Danze scores against Arsenal

Anthony Danze is on the verge of a major breakthrough after scoring for English Premier League Crystal Palace against a makeshift Arsenal in a friendly in London.
Just weeks after Olympic disappointment with Australia in Greece, the former Perth Glory midfielder is hoping to earn a place among the stars of one of the world's most popular competitions after a trial with newly promoted Palace.
"I've been here for about a week and I think they've been reasonably happy but I haven't had much feedback," Danze said from London.
Scoring the first goal in a 3-0 win over an Arsenal side without most of it's international stars, but which contained Dutch maestro Dennis Bergkamp and Cameroon defender Lauren, has given Danze a sniff of a contract.
"It was good to get a chance to play against a quality team and I think I did reasonably well so I'll just have to see," he said.
Danze, who was due to have talks with Palace yesterday, made just 11 Glory appearances after signing for the club in 2000. But despite limited opportunities at club level, he remained in the Australian squad.
He played at the world youth championships in the United Arab Emirates last December before heading to Athens with the Olympic team, where he impressed coach Frank Farina.
"When he came on he always looked dangerous, he always looked like scoring," Farina said this week. :)

Freddy Kurz
04-09-2004, 08:28 AM
If Danze is any good Palace should move swiftly,
because it sounds as if his agent is working over-
time to find him a British club.....

nookiebear
06-09-2004, 10:37 AM
any news on this one?

Jim Cannon
06-09-2004, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
If Danze is any good Palace should move swiftly,
because it sounds as if his agent is working over-
time to find him a British club.....

Palace move quickly? yeah right.:D

Flappy Chicken
06-09-2004, 11:04 AM
Looks like that Todd guys brother from Corrie, not that I watch Corrie!

Brixton Boy
06-09-2004, 12:56 PM
Just 11 appearances for his club side in 4 years? Shouldn't we be after the guy who was keeping him out the side?

Dobbo
06-09-2004, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Brixton Boy
Just 11 appearances for his club side in 4 years? Shouldn't we be after the guy who was keeping him out the side?
It might have been Craig Foster

Brixton Boy
06-09-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Dobbo
It might have been Craig Foster

Whhhooooaaa, good point but, but that may mean that he's not in Craig's class .... yet???

Jaffa
06-09-2004, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by Brixton Boy
Just 11 appearances for his club side in 4 years? Shouldn't we be after the guy who was keeping him out the side?

He is only 20....

zonin2000
06-09-2004, 01:18 PM
RE: Song for Danze

(Premature, maybe)

Though I thought RB's 'Tiny Dancer' shout was good, I was thinking something along the lines of:

(to the tune of 'Boogie Wonderland')

Danze! Tony, Tony Danze!
(Dance! Boogie Wonderland!)

Jay_Palace
06-09-2004, 01:21 PM
I have a very funny feeling about this, and reckon that this lad could quite possibly be the next big thing.

He sounds like a similar player to Tim Cahill, only perhaps more skillful, so definitely someone that we should sign up ASAP.

cpfc_spc1982
06-09-2004, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Jay_Palace


only perhaps more skillful

what are you basing this on.

Jay_Palace
06-09-2004, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by cpfc_spc1982
what are you basing this on.

From what I have read about him. He is more of a flair playmaker, as opposed to Cahill, who is more of a bruiser.

Either way though he must he worth a contract with us.

skyrocket6
06-09-2004, 03:07 PM
Its nicky rizzos cousin!! (not really but looks similar)

Ruskin Old Boy
06-09-2004, 03:18 PM
Does anyone remember how Australia got on in the Olympics footie? :D

oz_da II
06-09-2004, 03:22 PM
Is footie in the Olympics?

Farawayeagle
07-09-2004, 03:20 AM
Australia got to the Quarter finals ---- lost to Iraq 1-0 from a fantastic overhead kick.

Danze scored a goal which was disallowed for offside.

He was playing instead of Tim Cahill who was suspended for the quarter final because he had picked up 2 yellow cards in previous games. Australia also had to do without Craig Moore for the quarter final for the same reason.

Danze played very well.

bunghole
07-09-2004, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
Does anyone remember how Australia got on in the Olympics footie? :D

A lot better than Team GB did Rusky. :)

Jammy Dodja
07-09-2004, 05:38 AM
Is there any more news on this one. As this could be a good signing for saturday game against pompey.

cpfc_spc1982
07-09-2004, 08:23 AM
wil he be playing tonight anyone know?

thewill
07-09-2004, 10:01 AM
he looks like ronaldo (the manutd one)

Kirby
07-09-2004, 10:56 AM
EVERY BODY DANZE NOW! :o

Essexeagle
07-09-2004, 02:19 PM
Doesn't appear to be in the squad for tonight.

eagles #1
07-09-2004, 02:21 PM
yea its a shame that hes doesnt appear to be in the squad, would have been good for us to have seen him, altho knowing our official site he probably is in the squad but they dont realise.

Bunsen Honeydew
07-09-2004, 04:55 PM
Could he be in the squad under someone else's name? We've been known to do that.

Celestial Empire
08-09-2004, 09:27 AM
Maybe ID wanted to keep him away from Charlton's prying eyes, they're supposed to be interested too.

Sussex Eagle
08-09-2004, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by skyrocket6
Its nicky rizzos cousin!! (not really but looks similar)

Incidentally, Nicky Rizzo now calls himself 'Nicholas', apparently. Just doesn't seem - right - to me. But I suppose he reckons he'll be taken seriously if he has a slightly staid name. :clown: I'm suprised he is playing in about the third division in Italy, though. I always thought he looked quite talented.

Beanie
08-09-2004, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by eagles #1
yea its a shame that hes doesnt appear to be in the squad, would have been good for us to have seen him, altho knowing our official site he probably is in the squad but they dont realise.
Last night was an official game, not like the behind closed door Arsenal match. May simply be that he was ineligable for some reason (work permit or similar for example)

wedgetail
08-09-2004, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
Does anyone remember how Australia got on in the Olympics footie? :D
And the British team, and can you remind me of the score when Australia played England?

Raoul Duke
08-09-2004, 12:14 PM
England 1, Australia 3

El Aguila
08-09-2004, 12:16 PM
They lost 1-0 to Iraq, I think. But it was a competitive game, so ozeagle didn't watch it.

ROCK'N'ROLL
08-09-2004, 12:22 PM
Danze was there last night. He was sitting at the back with Popovic for a bit.

Well, a longer haired guy, with baseball cap and an ozzie accent was anyway.

pattaya pete
08-09-2004, 03:53 PM
A good friend of mine who has played since migrating to Perth at 15years old (ex England schoolboys) reckons Mr Danze ain't up to the required standard,I hope he's wrong.

09-09-2004, 08:52 PM
yes so do i

09-09-2004, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Kirby
EVERY BODY DANZE NOW! :o


no not funny!:bash:

Sires
09-09-2004, 08:59 PM
Just sign him Dowie he is free and probably willnot want much wages. If he is cack then do not play him. He might be the next Harry Kewell.

eagles #1
09-09-2004, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by gull_palace1
no not funny!:bash: i thought it was fecking hilarious, well done kirby:D :p

Shipp Ahoy!
09-09-2004, 09:05 PM
I do hope we sign him :p

Madden
10-09-2004, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by pattaya pete
A good friend of mine who has played since migrating to Perth at 15years old (ex England schoolboys) reckons Mr Danze ain't up to the required standard,I hope he's wrong.



Iain Dowie seems to be a good judge of players and I hope Danze is given a fair go by the fans if he does sign with us.
Perth Glory have a good record so far bringing on young players with transfers of Ivan Ergic to Juventus, Ljubo Milicevic to FC Zurich and David Tarka to Forest over the last three years or so.
I've also played and coached here in Perth but wouldn't presume to judge Danze on the fleeting appearances for Glory or watching State league.The truth is nobody knows if he's is good enough untill he's been given a chance.

I spoke to one of the Perth Glory players today and little news so far.

pattaya pete
10-09-2004, 05:16 AM
Hi Madden,who are you invlved with in Perth?
I played for many years and was involved with Sunday League over three decades.Things have moved on since.
Played with John O'connel,even Paul Tombides in the 70's WOW he says.
My friend's opinion may be harsh on Anthoy Danze,I just emailed all my old soccer buddies for feedback.
Will be there in November/December for a wedding.Trust that is close season for Glory.

Madden
10-09-2004, 06:06 AM
Cockburn, Pete amongst others.

John O'Connell was in the West Australian just this week for punching a fellow compere on a soccer show on access tv.
He was fined $500. Always had a chip on his shoulder.

Walsh-Palace
10-09-2004, 06:49 AM
Very Sharp player!

pattaya pete
10-09-2004, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Madden
Cockburn, Pete amongst others.

John O'Connell was in the West Australian just this week for punching a fellow compere on a soccer show on access tv.
He was fined $500. Always had a chip on his shoulder. I always thought he was very well balanced----A chip on both shoulders:p :p

nookiebear
16-09-2004, 11:56 AM
so what happened with this fella, then? Is he still on trial?

BenCouchman
16-09-2004, 12:01 PM
he isnt at the club anymore.

Jay_Palace
16-09-2004, 12:10 PM
Seems rather surprising that we would pass by the chanc to sign up a young midfielder, who by all acounts, is pretty handy.

Why are we constantly over-looking midfielders? Not signing Kachloul was a big, big mistake IMHO.

BenCouchman
16-09-2004, 12:17 PM
If the management dont think he is good enough then why sign him? Why not save the wages you would pay him and put it towards someone that Dowie thinks will improve the team?

They've seen him in training for quite a few weeks and i would go with their opinion.

Oisin
17-09-2004, 04:38 PM
The Melbourne ASge claims we've signed him at the bottom of this article
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/09/17/1095394012727.html

Sussex Eagle
17-09-2004, 04:45 PM
Interesting. Doesn't seem totally certain, but it is from today (well tomorrow actually!). Anything that boosts numbers in the midfield is welcome if true :lux:

Mr Palace
22-09-2004, 12:21 PM
Danze has signed for Palace according to an article in today's Croydon Guardian (in which Dowie is quoted). Good to see the utterly useless Palace website has posted the news!!!


Palace snap up Aussie

Iain Dowie has signed out-of-contract Australian international Anthony Danze on a two-year contract.

The 20-year-old midfielder was a free agent after leaving Perth Glory and has been on trial at Palace for the last month.

The 6ft1ins goals-scoring midfielder was the youngest member of the Australian Olympic squad which reached the quarter-finals before losing to Iraq and scored in the competition.

Dowie said: "He has signed for two years. He's a young midfield player with good size, great energy, and good mobility, so we'll see. It is important to give him the opportunity to develop, we haven't had to pay any money for him."

Danze turned down the chance to join Southampton three years ago to prove himself in the Australian league, and has represented his country at all youth levels.

Dowie's first signing outside the transfer window adds to crop of youngsters he believes will stand the club in good stead.

Dowie said: "He scored a great goal for us in the friendly against Arsenal and he deserves the chance. Along with Watson, Soares, Borrowdale and Togwell it gives us a good crop of youngsters."

Tommy Black, 24, was last week allowed to join Sheffield United on a month's loan after Dougie Freedman turned down the chance for both of them to go to Leeds United.

He added: "Leeds were interested in Tommy as part of a joint deal that didn't quite work for both of us and then Sheffield United rang up. He did very well on Saturday.

"Tommy needs to play games and it also gives us a chance to get Soares and Watson involved with the squad. Watson has been our best player in the reserves in the last four games."


11:46am today

Clapham Grand
22-09-2004, 12:28 PM
good news!

RDSdaEAGLE
22-09-2004, 12:28 PM
Marvellous...a midfielder at last! :D

Shipp Ahoy!
22-09-2004, 12:30 PM
Excellent!

cpfc_spc1982
22-09-2004, 12:31 PM
good news.

BLUE BOY
22-09-2004, 12:50 PM
Think this could turn into a great signing. A goalscoring midfielder is just what was needed.

Duke
22-09-2004, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by BLUE BOY
Think this could turn into a great signing. A goalscoring midfielder is just what was needed.

but it sounds more like one for the future than him coming straight into the team

BLUE BOY
22-09-2004, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Duke
but it sounds more like one for the future than him coming straight into the team

True, but if he proves he's got what it takes, then we have ourselves a bargin.

Benzhiyi
22-09-2004, 02:28 PM
Good news. :)

Braders
22-09-2004, 02:30 PM
Good signing,sounds very promising

Lion
22-09-2004, 02:43 PM
Good news - will be interesting to see how he develops this year - maybe he can get goal scoring lessons from Popo :)

Eagle123
22-09-2004, 02:54 PM
If your good enough your old enough, look no further than Rooney and Milner. I dont believe Dowie would be looking at players for the future while we are so desperate to get some creativity going in midfield I would imagine he'd be consentrating on bringing in players that have a chance of forcing they're way in to the squad (well I hope so anyway). Heres hoping he makes an appearance soon.

Sussex Eagle
22-09-2004, 02:55 PM
:p - Perhaps not exactly the final piece of the jigsaw, but definately sounds like he's got potential.

rossi18
22-09-2004, 02:57 PM
well thats sounds good maybe give him chance in reserves then on the bench for 1st team in a couple of weeks

sjmac
22-09-2004, 03:03 PM
Good signing. I'm sure he will push for a place.

PhilD
22-09-2004, 03:11 PM
Nice to have finally signed a midfielder - hopefully he'll turn out to be a bargain.

arussell
22-09-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Mr Palace
Watson has been our best player in the reserves in the last four games.

? :confused:

Not at right back he hasn't.

That honour would go to Dougie and Kaviedes.

Beanie
22-09-2004, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Eagle123
If your good enough your old enough, look no further than Rooney and Milner. I dont believe Dowie would be looking at players for the future while we are so desperate to get some creativity going in midfield I would imagine he'd be consentrating on bringing in players that have a chance of forcing they're way in to the squad (well I hope so anyway). Heres hoping he makes an appearance soon.
don't know whether he would for now or the future - but why ignore "one for the future" just because we also need players now? He's only signed for two years though, so it's not a vast future

rhiannapaul
22-09-2004, 03:51 PM
another gamble with this squad of multi national nobodies what is going on this is the premier league the toughest in the world these players are all div 1 or 2 straw clutching

Sick Bucket
22-09-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by rhiannapaul
another gamble with this squad of multi national nobodies what is going on this is the premier league the toughest in the world these players are all div 1 or 2 straw clutching

That´s the spirit, shall we start booing him now ?

Boooooooooooo

Eagle123
22-09-2004, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Beanie
don't know whether he would for now or the future - but why ignore "one for the future" just because we also need players now? He's only signed for two years though, so it's not a vast future Yeah, I see what your getting at and I did'nt realise he'd only signed for 2 years (but hes only 20 so we dont need to offer any more than that as even if he does well and other teams come in for him we'd still be entitled to compensation). Or would we? does he have to have come through our youth academy? No ignore me course he does'nt. Gray did'nt

mojoeagle
22-09-2004, 03:57 PM
Will pass judgement when I see him play. But sounds promising though

Raf
22-09-2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by rhiannapaul
another gamble with this squad of multi national nobodies what is going on this is the premier league the toughest in the world these players are all div 1 or 2 straw clutching

Get yerself some Prozac, will you??

hernehilleagle
22-09-2004, 04:09 PM
Good news

Benzhiyi
22-09-2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by rhiannapaul
another gamble with this squad of multi national nobodies what is going on this is the premier league the toughest in the world these players are all div 1 or 2 straw clutching

... says the bloke who complains on another thread about picking Kolkka over Black. :confused: :(

Sussex Eagle
22-09-2004, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Benzhiyi
... says the bloke who complains on another thread about picking Kolkka over Black. :confused: :(

:D

Though it really is a bit disturbing that people think that way :sob:

Trist
22-09-2004, 04:29 PM
Good stuff! And I agree Ben, anyone that thinks we should pick Tommy Black ahead of Kolkka is mad!

Looking forward to seeing how Danze settles in, having Popovic around should help him settle.

COME ON PALACE!!!

Scroatey
22-09-2004, 04:59 PM
Hooray!

c_block_lad
22-09-2004, 05:05 PM
Hope the lad does well.

eaglei_uk
22-09-2004, 05:25 PM
Good news! Hope he has a great future with Palace!

silver
22-09-2004, 08:49 PM
nice one

bigend1
22-09-2004, 09:28 PM
good news, i like the sound of him. deffo think hes one for the future though. Esspecially with dowies comments ie.... "he needs to be given time to develop but he hasn't cost us anything", "he and the other yougsters give a a good crop of youngsters coming through". Doubt we will see much of him this season but then if he does well in the reserves he dosnt have much ahead of him?!

Oxford Eagle
23-09-2004, 12:44 AM
I hope Dowie reminds him Who's the Boss?

/gets coat

What?
23-09-2004, 02:51 AM
I dont get it.

I hoped we would sign him from the reports I saw when he was on trial, hopefully he will do well. And as long as he isnt seen as the saviour or anything, I believe he will.

Ozzy
23-09-2004, 07:11 AM
I'm currently in W.A and was at the Perth Glory with Danze whilst i was there, also played club and state football with Danze since 13! Danze is a great talent and although he is prodominatly right footed, he played most of the games for the glory on the left or in the middle! Dont be worried by his lack of games for the Glory as i experienced the same as him, being a younger player, Mich D'Avery choose to go with a more experienced side leaving youth internationals out in the process.
I beleive he should have went to Southampton when he had the chance but i firmly beleive in time he will be a big success!!
He scored a brace against Brazil at the U/20 world cup which put his foot in the door for the Olympic team(in which he was one of the younger players in the team!). Good luck Danze...

cpfc_spc1982
23-09-2004, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by Ozzy
I'm currently in W.A and was at the Perth Glory with Danze whilst i was there, also played club and state football with Danze since 13! Danze is a great talent and although he is prodominatly right footed, he played most of the games for the glory on the left or in the middle! Dont be worried by his lack of games for the Glory as i experienced the same as him, being a younger player, Mich D'Avery choose to go with a more experienced side leaving youth internationals out in the process.
I beleive he should have went to Southampton when he had the chance but i firmly beleive in time he will be a big success!!
He scored a brace against Brazil at the U/20 world cup which put his foot in the door for the Olympic team(in which he was one of the younger players in the team!). Good luck Danze...

nice one pal.
is he quick / creative / skillfull ?

Ozzy
23-09-2004, 07:33 AM
He is pretty quick, not as quick as me : ) and a skillful attacking midfielder... Great ball player, all the teams i had been in, the ball goes through him, hes very good at controlling the tempo of the game.
His greatest asset is his heading in the box, he seems to drift in and end up on the end of most crosses, very very good header of the ball. His defensive game is good, but obviously a part of his game that will develop more in the english game... I think you've done very well signing him as aussie coach Frank Farina rates him very highly!!

Gooders
23-09-2004, 07:39 AM
:cool:

Dare I say that he sounds as though he might be in the Cahill mould?

SHIPEAGLE
23-09-2004, 07:41 AM
Can't wait to see him Danze through the Premier League defences :D :D

Ozzy
23-09-2004, 07:43 AM
To be honest but i haven't seen alot of Cahill but what i have seen of the boy, he hasn't impressed me very much, Danze is a younger, much harder worker and to me just a better player.
No one new about Tim Cahill over here untill he played in the F.A. Cup and signed for Everton!
Apart from getting sent off, he hasn't done much.
Danze=Better than Cahill!!

st albans
23-09-2004, 07:48 AM
in this day and age i think a player of 20 years old can't be called potential, i'm sure his talent will be improved here, but the way the game is nowadays, players of 16,17 are the ones with potential, and it seems as though if you havent made it by 20 then you might never at the highest level, IMHO. IF we go down then he could be an interal part of the team for next season. personally if he's good enough this season then throw him in, with the likes of Aki and Hughes in front of him it can't be THAT hard to break into the team

Gooders
23-09-2004, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by Ozzy
Danze=Better than Cahill!!

Double :cool: with knobs on!

You mentioned his ability in the air - Cahill has scored a lot of goals with his head for Millwall. In fact he's scored a lot of goals full stop, albeit in a weak division.

Ozzy
23-09-2004, 08:07 AM
As i said, just not a fan of Cahill, you've got a better deal with Danze!!

Freddy Kurz
23-09-2004, 09:50 AM
Welcome Tony Danze, here's wishing a successful
stay at Crystal Palace Football Club. Our midfield
needs you!

arussell
23-09-2004, 12:08 PM
Don't want to alarm anyone, but Danze HASN'T actually signed yet.

Hence no info on the official website.

He is however, EXPECTED to in the next few days :)

cpfcben
23-09-2004, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by st albans
in this day and age i think a player of 20 years old can't be called potential, i'm sure his talent will be improved here, but the way the game is nowadays, players of 16,17 are the ones with potential, and it seems as though if you havent made it by 20 then you might never at the highest level, IMHO. IF we go down then he could be an interal part of the team for next season. personally if he's good enough this season then throw him in, with the likes of Aki and Hughes in front of him it can't be THAT hard to break into the team


Ian Wright.

Sussex Eagle
23-09-2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by arussell
Don't want to alarm anyone, but Danze HASN'T actually signed yet.

Hence no info on the official website.

He is however, EXPECTED to in the next few days :)

Bloody 'ell we take a while don't we?! Did you see the game he played alan? If you did what did you think?

smileysmith
23-09-2004, 12:21 PM
Excellent :D - was hoping we'd sign him.

arussell
23-09-2004, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Sussex Eagle
Bloody 'ell we take a while don't we?! Did you see the game he played alan? If you did what did you think?

Unfortunately I didnt find out about the Arsenal game from the club until after it'd happened, so I didn't.

It was organised by Dowie and co at short notice.

Farawayeagle
24-09-2004, 06:01 AM
Danze's signing is also being reported here in OZ on the world game site although they may just have picked it up off another site.

Do what I did email the club: info@cpfc.co.uk

and ask.

Freddy Kurz
24-09-2004, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by arussell
Don't want to alarm anyone, but Danze HASN'T actually signed yet.

Hence no info on the official website.

He is however, EXPECTED to in the next few days :)


Any delay in finalising his transfer could well
be due to his international clearance, which
tends to take longer with Australian players.

Finbar
24-09-2004, 08:29 AM
He's the greatest Danze!!

arussell
24-09-2004, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Farawayeagle
Do what I did email the club

Err, I did find out DIRECT from the club. That's why I was letting everyone know !

Gooders
24-09-2004, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Freddy Kurz
Any delay in finalising his transfer could well
be due to his international clearance, which
tends to take longer with Australian players.

Or it could just as easily be because he doesn't know whether the manager will be here next week.

Gerry from Sussex
24-09-2004, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by rhiannapaul
another gamble with this squad of multi national nobodies what is going on this is the premier league the toughest in the world these players are all div 1 or 2 straw clutching

I think maybe you just don't get what being a footy fan is all about. Of course you are probably right in reality but part of the magic that keeps us hooked is the firm belief that every new signing is going to be the best thing since Zinedane Zidane or Ronaldo. In fact, at Palace, this is more or less obligatory.

Madden
24-09-2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by Ozzy
I'm currently in W.A and was at the Perth Glory with Danze whilst i was there, also played club and state football with Danze since 13!

Who are you playing for at the moment?

I have spoken to two people at Glory today and they believe this is a done deal.

Stellavista
24-09-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Gooders
Or it could just as easily be because he doesn't know whether the manager will be here next week.

...or it could just as easily be because he doesn't know whether the Chairman will be here next week.........

Lion
24-09-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Gooders
Or it could just as easily be because he doesn't know whether the manager will be here next week.

Can we try and leave this kind of rubbish off this thread and use the correct one to talk about any speculation regarding Iain?

GUCCI Eagle
24-09-2004, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Lion
Can we try and leave this kind of rubbish off this thread and use the correct one to talk about any speculation regarding Iain?

I think it's fair to say that we can link the speculation though.


This place gets really testy at times.

Lion
24-09-2004, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by GUCCI Eagle
I think it's fair to say that we can link the speculation though.


This place gets really testy at times.

You could not link COMPLETE SPECULATION with a transfer that is by all means almost complete.

What a complete and utter load of crap - bugger it, let's just blame EVERYTHING at Palace to the speculation as well - the results are ALL reasons for this, even before it came up of course - it's not that we are not playing a team good enough to compete in the Premership, it's because Dowie wants to leave

Course it is! Why would anyone thing differently?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

SKATE
24-09-2004, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Stellavista
...or it could just as easily be because he doesn't know whether the Chairman will be here next week.........

....or even because he doesn't know whether either of them will be here next week.......

GUCCI Eagle
24-09-2004, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Lion
You could not link COMPLETE SPECULATION with a transfer that is by all means almost complete.

What a complete and utter load of crap - bugger it, let's just blame EVERYTHING at Palace to the speculation as well - the results are ALL reasons for this, even before it came up of course - it's not that we are not playing a team good enough to compete in the Premership, it's because Dowie wants to leave

Course it is! Why would anyone thing differently?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'm getting really tired of the busy body attitude here.

If someone wants to link two subjects, what right have you got to tell them to bugger off to another thread? It's just rude. If conversation didn't evolve, we'd have 4 million threads with 2 posts in each of them and we'd provoke zero discussion.

laughing gravy
26-09-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by st albans
in this day and age i think a player of 20 years old can't be called potential, i'm sure his talent will be improved here, but the way the game is nowadays, players of 16,17 are the ones with potential, and it seems as though if you havent made it by 20 then you might never at the highest level, IMHO. IF we go down then he could be an interal part of the team for next season. personally if he's good enough this season then throw him in, with the likes of Aki and Hughes in front of him it can't be THAT hard to break into the team

that last sentence is abit harsh!!!!! :eek:

David of Kent
29-09-2004, 09:55 AM
Has Danze still not signed yet then?

eagles #1
29-09-2004, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by David of Kent
Has Danze still not signed yet then? yea thats what i wanna know, i havent read through all of the thread but WTF'S going on?

eagles #1
29-09-2004, 10:07 AM
sorry just read arussell's post. has he signed YET?

c_block_lad
29-09-2004, 11:12 AM
The free-signing of 20-year-old Australian midfielder Anthony Danze has hit a snag, because his former team, Perth Glory, are seeking compensation.

Dowie added: "Some compensation clause has come up which threatens the deal. We don't think it will kill the deal but it may do."

David of Kent
29-09-2004, 11:16 AM
If that is the case would we be able to sign him then outside of the window? If compensation is due under his existing contract, is he still an "out of contract" player. Nothings ever simple :hmph:

Raoul Duke
29-09-2004, 12:13 PM
This sounds very strange to me. When the NSL (the Oz domestic competition) was disbanded all player contracts were null and void and every player became free agents.

Farawayeagle
29-09-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by c_block_lad
The free-signing of 20-year-old Australian midfielder Anthony Danze has hit a snag, because his former team, Perth Glory, are seeking compensation.

Dowie added: "Some compensation clause has come up which threatens the deal. We don't think it will kill the deal but it may do."

-------------------------------------------------------------

What's the source for this. Nobody in the Perth media or football sites here know anything about it. Perth Glory have already posted him as gone on their site.

Is this a wind up? I have contacted the club (Perth Glory) direct and expect a reply tomorrow. This story puzzles me as all Aussie players had their contracts terminated when the NSL finished. Danze was playing part time for a club called Inglewood.

Mr Palace
29-09-2004, 01:16 PM
According to Dowie in today's Croydon Guardian, Perth Glory now want compensation for Danze. Here's the story:

The free-signing of 20-year-old Australian midfielder Anthony Danze has hit a snag, because his former team, Perth Glory, are seeking compensation.

Dowie added: "Some compensation clause has come up which threatens the deal. We don't think it will kill the deal but it may do."

Mr Palace
29-09-2004, 01:17 PM
Ooops, sorry about that. Just seen c_block_lad has posted this as well now.

Malakite
29-09-2004, 03:33 PM
hmmm so anyone know what the clause is?

eaglei_uk
29-09-2004, 08:12 PM
I don't understand how they could claim compensation if he is a free agent?

Farawayeagle
30-09-2004, 01:06 AM
I have contacted Perth Glory and they tell me there is no problem and the details are just being finalized. Anyone know anything more about the Guardian story?

Sussex Eagle
30-09-2004, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by Farawayeagle
I have contacted Perth Glory and they tell me there is no problem and the details are just being finalized. Anyone know anything more about the Guardian story?

Good work mate! :p Presumably it will all be confirmed in the next couple of days now? Please???

Farawayeagle
30-09-2004, 05:56 AM
Thanks Sussex! Just got off the phone with the ASA (Australian equivalent of the FA)

As far as they are concerned all teams terminated contracts with all players on
30/06/04. All clubs will be starting from scratch when the participating teams for the new Australian Premier League is announced in mid October. they think it odd there would be a compensation claim.

So unless Perth Glory are chancing their arm at trying to get some "development money" from Palace -- this one is a mystery.

Jimbo ?
30-09-2004, 09:25 AM
it wouldnt be a palace transfer with out that element of chaos involved

Jim Cannons Moustache
30-09-2004, 11:31 AM
why was the Australian NSL disbanded?

Raoul Duke
30-09-2004, 12:18 PM
A more appropriate question is why wouldn't you disband the NSL?

It was deemed easier to wipe the slate clean and start again with a new competition.

There are too many teams and too few players. The quality at times was simply woeful.

Most clubs were near bankruptsy

Many clubs are closely aligned with ethnic minorities (Italians and Greeks) which isn't appealing to the average oz soccer fan. Adelaide City closely aligned themselves with the Italian community and had the Italian flag in the club logo for a few years. When City died they were replaced by United who were wise enough to market the club to any soccer supporter in the state. Attendances jumped from 3k to about 10k overnight and the club made a huge profit in its first year.

A new league will be started early next year made almost entirely of brand new teams and with only one team per state and one from New Zealand. The quality should be higher which should attract more supporters.

Henfield Eagle
30-09-2004, 11:26 PM
It's been like that since I can remember (70's)

Clapham Grand
01-10-2004, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Farawayeagle
I have contacted Perth Glory and they tell me there is no problem and the details are just being finalized. Anyone know anything more about the Guardian story?

Good work - FAE!

eagles #1
01-10-2004, 04:49 PM
just got an official text saying hes signed a 2 year deal subject to international clearence :lux:

G'day Danze mate

RDSdaEAGLE
01-10-2004, 04:49 PM
It's been confirmed by the club now.

A txt I received from the club...

"Crystal Palace have signed 20 year old Australian under 20 international Anthony Danze on a two year deal subject to international clearance"

What?
01-10-2004, 04:50 PM
Goodo!

BLUE BOY
01-10-2004, 04:56 PM
Good stuff.

lil_b_eagle
01-10-2004, 05:18 PM
official site also state this

chav_hater
01-10-2004, 05:31 PM
Good work ID and co. , 2 in 2 days

eaglei_uk
01-10-2004, 05:39 PM
Ace!

Palaceboy222
01-10-2004, 05:54 PM
jolly good

ed winchester
01-10-2004, 05:59 PM
Danze, Danze, where ever you may be.

Sussex Eagle
01-10-2004, 06:04 PM
Excellent, hope he can establish himself here for years to come! Seems the Dowies are improving their 'getting bodies over the line' skills?

Kirby
01-10-2004, 06:39 PM
EVERYBODY DANZE NOW! :o

NZsparky
01-10-2004, 11:42 PM
You can Danze if you want to

gold76
02-10-2004, 08:44 AM
I wonder why, he's the greatest Danze!

CPFC-DIEHARD
02-10-2004, 10:02 AM
Breaking news on the official Palace website: Danze officially signs a two year deal, subject to international clearance.
Manager Iain Dowie says: "Anthony is a superb attacking midfielder who has impressed on trial. Im sure he'll be an excellent asset for Crystal Palace for many years to come"

I think Danze is the quality our centre midfield has been missing, him and Petit in midfield and we'll have a Premiership team.

02-10-2004, 10:05 AM
http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90850

BW_Palace
02-10-2004, 10:14 AM
The chant/song for him didn't take long to be made up did it? :p It practically writes itself.

(See Kirby's post)

sexyrazor
02-10-2004, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by RDSdaEAGLE
http://www.perthglory.com.au/images/player_numbers/8_large.jpg


At last some eye candy for the ladies.

Thank you ID.

eagles #1
02-10-2004, 11:10 AM
what do you mean? isnt Iain Dowie and Bob Dowie enough for you? ;)

Jimbo ?
02-10-2004, 11:22 AM
sounds promising this time, lets hope so - palace are beginning to compile a useful squad now

chav_hater
02-10-2004, 11:26 AM
And it isn't a case of too little too late as so often happens

BUNGLE
02-10-2004, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by CPFC-DIEHARD

I think Danze is the quality our centre midfield has been missing, him and Petit in midfield and we'll have a Premiership team.

How many times have you seen him play?

lordanton
02-10-2004, 11:52 AM
He looks like that singer Raghav

Beanie
02-10-2004, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by chav_hater
And it isn't a case of too little too late as so often happens
No idea if it's too little - most certainly isn't too late. Having said that can't see him in the team for a while, because Lakis and Kaviedes would be in front of him.

ed winchester
02-10-2004, 08:07 PM
Can't wait to see Danze/Hall waltzing through the Palace midfield.

RDSdaEAGLE
02-10-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by lordanton
He looks like that singer Raghav

Lets hope his music isn't as bad! :D

lordanton
02-10-2004, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by RDSdaEAGLE
Lets hope his music isn't as bad! :D

More concerned bout his football though!

Clapham Grand
02-10-2004, 11:25 PM
good news

Ian Hart
09-10-2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by CPFC-DIEHARD

I think Danze is the quality our centre midfield has been missing, him and Petit in midfield and we'll have a Premiership team.

They've quoted this comment on the Perth Glory fans website, and sadly had a good laugh about it :eek:

You may get a broader view of his abilities on this thread

http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92897

24-10-2004, 11:09 PM
from www.tribalfootball.com:
follow the link for the story


http://www.tribalfootball.com/october/austnews1231004.html

jabbski
24-10-2004, 11:19 PM
Didn't we sign this dude quite a few weeks ago?

http://www.cpfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Profiles/0,,10323~31863,00.html

24-10-2004, 11:22 PM
yer so what was the point if were just going to loan him out

Sussex Eagle
24-10-2004, 11:22 PM
Yes - but that's not the story!

Scouts track Palace signing Danze
tribalfootball.com - October 23, 2004

Crystal Palace midfielder Anthony Danze is attracting interest from Football League clubs.

The 21 year-old Aussie has impressed in Palace's reserves since his international clearance came through last month and several clubs want to take him on-loan.

Palace boss Iain Dowie has confirmed he will be seeking to loan out several of his reserve players, though may want to hold onto Danze to bed him down at Selhurst Park before sending him to another club.

The ex-Perth Glory midfielder played in this week's 1-0 win at Norwich City in front of scouts from Sheffield United, Ipswich Town and Colchester United.

24-10-2004, 11:25 PM
yer tried to copy it but me desktop wasn't having it

Sussex Eagle
24-10-2004, 11:25 PM
To be honest, I'd have thought those scouts were looking at other players more though - as the article says, it's a bit early after his arrival for Danze to be going out. And we need him as back-up, especially if we're gonna play a 5-man midfield all season.

cpfc_spc1982
24-10-2004, 11:35 PM
loan at a top div 1 club for a bit could be very good.

Farawayeagle
24-10-2004, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by cpfc_spc1982
loan at a top div 1 club for a bit could be very good.

Yeah I agree. Danze is not quite the finished article yet. the experience of playing with a good Championship team would help us more than him just playing in the reserves.

Sussex Eagle
25-10-2004, 12:02 AM
Bit of a strange merge by the mods!

jabbski
25-10-2004, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Sussex Eagle
Bit of a strange merge by the mods!

I agree!

krupa
25-10-2004, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by ed winchester
Can't wait to see Danze/Hall waltzing through the Palace midfield.

Wang Chung (who?) Wrote about Dancehall days ? Cant remember the words just the tune ...which was a cracker...IMHO :)

Beanie
25-10-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Farawayeagle
Yeah I agree. Danze is not quite the finished article yet. the experience of playing with a good Championship team would help us more than him just playing in the reserves.
Would it really? A game against Arsenal ressies or against Gillingham, Chelsea ressies or Rotherham. I appreciate the extra intensity of a "real" game - but not so sure where a player learns more.

Emmajo
25-10-2004, 07:47 PM
a one for the ladies, thats for sure. saw him after the fulham game in players lounge even more gorgeous in real life and the nicest bum i have seen in a long while. lol

CPFC987
25-10-2004, 07:54 PM
Before the game on Saturday Danze and Borrowdale walked past me and my mate, were the players park. Borrowdale was in a suit, and he got into his car, we decided to walk over to them to go and speak to them but as we got closer we realised Borrowdale was undressing! We then looked to see where Danze had dissapeared to, we then noticed he was behind a car doing a lets say piddle (well at least i hope he was and he wasn't having a westminster bank over Borrowdale changing). Anyway... we waited a minute for them to finish and Borrowdale came out in his tracksuit and we then spoke to them. Danze seemd embaressd so i think he knew we knew what he was doing! I found it amusing at the time:)
My friend went on to offer him a Peperami to which he said " No thanks mate, ive already had one"! Nice to see him being healthy!

Farawayeagle
25-10-2004, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Beanie
Would it really? A game against Arsenal ressies or against Gillingham, Chelsea ressies or Rotherham. I appreciate the extra intensity of a "real" game - but not so sure where a player learns more.

The matches are more intense than reserve games. Danze is coming from a fairly easy league here in OZ. I think he would benefit from a more competitive environment. But who knows -- Dowie may have plans to ease him into the first team squad with some subs appearances. If not ---- I think the loan would be good for his confidence/experience.

DaveTuttles
26-10-2004, 11:35 AM
Probably will play against Charlton IMO.

Jay_Palace
26-10-2004, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by CPFC987
well at least i hope he was and he wasn't having a westminster bank over Borrowdale changing

:eek: Don't even go there!

DaveTuttles
26-10-2004, 11:44 AM
Why?

Madden
26-10-2004, 11:57 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CPFC987
[B] we then noticed he was behind a car doing a lets say piddle (well at least i hope he was and he wasn't having a westminster bank over Borrowdale changing).

Did you offer to shake his hand? :)

CPFC987
26-10-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by Madden
[QUOTE]Originally posted by CPFC987
[B] we then noticed he was behind a car doing a lets say piddle (well at least i hope he was and he wasn't having a westminster bank over Borrowdale changing).

Did you offer to shake his hand? :)

lol, nah. But he used my mates pen when signing his programe!
Might go down to the games early every week now good having a look at all the players before the game...

weh8millwall
26-10-2004, 12:05 PM
Not surprised, my guess is he's been signed on a two year contract so we can keep an eye on his development. If he fulfil's his potential then great, if not then we ship him out when the two years are up. His wages can't be that big in the meantime, and the fact we picked him up on a freebie is going to count for something...

palace_burger
26-10-2004, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by CPFC987
lol, nah. But he used my mates pen when signing his programe!

I hope he washed his hands!!

CPFC987
26-10-2004, 01:19 PM
Well, i suppose he wiped them on his jacket!

Ozzy
02-11-2004, 03:38 AM
Has anyone got any comments on what they think of Danze now that he has played in a few reserves games??

Farawayeagle
02-11-2004, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by Ozzy
Has anyone got any comments on what they think of Danze now that he has played in a few reserves games??

Some comment from Holmesdale Online
From two different sources at tonight’s Palace vs Derby reserve game.


“Danze showed some nice touches and made one nice run which would have been a great goal but for the keeper scrambling it away.”

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“Oh and Anthony Danze will be quality for us, mark my words!”

Ozzy
02-11-2004, 06:06 AM
He is a good friend of mine so i was hoping he would do well!!

Skid Row
02-11-2004, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by Ozzy
He is a good friend of mine so i was hoping he would do well!!
Then you'd better give us some inside info then Ozzy. :p

Ozzy
02-11-2004, 06:25 AM
Theres not much to tell, the guys a complete athlete. He's been a quality player since young and has continued on as he has gotten older. Turned down an opportunity with southampton to stay with glory in perth for a while longer.

I see he has shaved his head, shoulda kept the hair, the whole aussie-italian thing. Has always been a favourite amoungst the women!! : )

Ruskin Old Boy
02-11-2004, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Ozzy
Has anyone got any comments on what they think of Danze now that he has played in a few reserves games??

He's got a lot of energy, very enthusiastic to use but needs to channel it more effectively; coaching at Palace should do that. He's played in the holding midfield role and stuck to that last night despite the unusual midfield that we had on the pitch. IMO became more effective when Danny Butterfield moved into midfield and he had someone to play off.

Like him coming forward, he's got confidence and up for the game. He wasn't the first to get involved in the brawl which preceded the Torghelle dismissal last night but he was there or thereabouts with his team mates so I'd rate his team spirit as high.

At the moment can't see him making the bench much but it's early days yet

Farawayeagle
02-11-2004, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Ruskin Old Boy
He's got a lot of energy, very enthusiastic to use but needs to channel it more effectively; coaching at Palace should do that. He's played in the holding midfield role and stuck to that last night despite the unusual midfield that we had on the pitch. IMO became more effective when Danny Butterfield moved into midfield and he had someone to play off.

Like him coming forward, he's got confidence and up for the game. He wasn't the first to get involved in the brawl which preceded the Torghelle dismissal last night but he was there or thereabouts with his team mates so I'd rate his team spirit as high.

At the moment can't see him making the bench much but it's early days yet


He was on the bench for the Charlton Carling Cup game, Ruskin.

Farawayeagle
02-11-2004, 09:50 PM
Sorry ruskin didn't see the word "much" in your post. :p

Ozzy
11-11-2004, 01:49 AM
Its massive news over here in Oz, that Danze got a start last night!! Three months ago he was playing local state league, two months later he was at the olympics and now old trafford!! Go on my son!!

Does anyone know how he played??

Sussex Eagle
11-11-2004, 02:00 AM
Don't know, but he probably didn't set the world alight if he was taken off at halftime, as I remember it. Plenty of time for him to settle in though, it's obviously going to be a big step up.

Henfield Eagle
11-11-2004, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by Ozzy
Its massive news over here in Oz, that Danze got a start last night!! Three months ago he was playing local state league, two months later he was at the olympics and now old trafford!! Go on my son!!

Does anyone know how he played?? Palce played a "second XI" tonight(last night)He was subed at half time ?:(

Ozzy
11-11-2004, 03:05 AM
Well its a first start at senior level for him....! He can only continue to improve and to have had a run in the seniors after less than a month at the club, i personally think its a good effort!!

Farawayeagle
11-11-2004, 03:44 AM
Originally posted by Ozzy
Well its a first start at senior level for him....! He can only continue to improve and to have had a run in the seniors after less than a month at the club, i personally think its a good effort!!

i agree Ozzy. To make the jump he has in such a short time -- is impressive.

Dowie obviously thinks he is worth grooming. He had him on the bench in the previous round at Charlton and now he's given him half a game at Old Trafford in front of 48,000. it's all part of his learning curve.

i suspect Dowie only intended to give him a limited time --- for the experience. Then when we went 2 down he decided to put Lakis on to give more width.

Clapham Grand
11-11-2004, 10:12 AM
It will be great experience for him, will give him drive and purpose to push on and train harder and earn a starting place in the first team

eagles #1
11-11-2004, 10:58 AM
So, how did he play? Didnt hear much of him on the radio, but then i didnt hear much of Derry or Freedman in the 1st half. Maybe i just wasnt paying attention.

Granada allover
11-11-2004, 11:13 AM
I'm afraid to say, imho, Anthony was pretty anonymous last night. But it's early days yet...

arussell
12-11-2004, 01:20 PM
The last few reserve games (and in fact the Man U one too) - Dowie seems to be trying him in a Derry/Aki role, whereas in his first few appearances, he appeared to be more of a "creative" type player who liked to get forward and pass through the midfield.

I think the club are trying to adjust him to other roles gradually, in the same way that Dowie played Watson at right back in the reserves.

B the Bad ©
12-11-2004, 05:05 PM
Hate to be negative, but this Danze fellah looked pretty poor in the reserve match last week.

Dillenger
16-11-2004, 05:15 PM
maybe a spell on loan would do him some good

Shoreditch CPFC
16-11-2004, 06:32 PM
is he still in Australia squad ?

B the Bad ©
16-11-2004, 10:55 PM
Was atrocious again tonight.

Celestial Empire
16-11-2004, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by B the Bad ©
Was atrocious again tonight.

Another negative comment from B - OK ... Good ....
Now try really hard, and see if you can give us a positive comment ... about anything at all.

arussell
17-11-2004, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by B the Bad ©
Was atrocious again tonight.

No he wasn't.

He, Borrowdale and Andrews seemed to be the only ones playing with a bit of energy though.

Farawayeagle
17-11-2004, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by arussell
No he wasn't.

He, Borrowdale and Andrews seemed to be the only ones playing with a bit of energy though.


Thanks for an objective comment. B the Bad seems to be only looking for negatives in performance.

I think Dowie is grooming him and Soares to feed through to the first team eventually. Danze is on a huge learning curve at the minute. He's one for the future. So give the guy a break B the B.

B the Bad ©
17-11-2004, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Celestial Empire
Another negative comment from B - OK ... Good ....
Now try really hard, and see if you can give us a positive comment ... about anything at all.

Nonsense, Poopypants. Everything I say is totally "positive", because without "negativity" and weighing up and working out the "problems" you can't deal with them and indeed rectify the aforementioned "gaps in the jigsaw puzzle".

Me: Danze is a bit crap, isn't he..?
Another person: oh yes, so he is.
Me: He needs replacing, that would be a positive thing, yah..?
Another person: yah. tru, tru.



Originally posted by arussell
No he wasn't.

He, Borrowdale and Andrews seemed to be the only ones playing with a bit of energy though.


You must have been busy eating your Hotdog all game or something along those shores, because Danze played a shocker. I already said in the thread about the game that I admit he was well out of position, whilst on the wing. But that doesn't condone his every pass putting a team member into danger. He fails as far as Passing the ball goes, which is, correct me if I'm wrong, the single most important attribute for a Midfielder. He didn't even appear to have that much "energy" neither. Borrowdale, I do concede, was outstanding. Andrews didn't do much, though did work hard, yes. Soares and Derry were by-far the two godamn class players of the night.

arussell
17-11-2004, 12:23 AM
Actually I was busy watching the game and taking match notes.

I saw your other comments, but I don't agree with them.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion though of course, although you do seem to have it in for Danze and Torghelle, but love Kaviedes (!)

Soares and Derry didn't impress any more than Danze.

Borrowdale and Andrews were Palace's best two players on the pitch in terms of commitment and effort, and Derry has been more guilty than most recently of giving the ball away in reserve games.

B the Bad ©
17-11-2004, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Farawayeagle
Thanks for an objective comment. B the Bad seems to be only looking for negatives in performance.

I think Dowie is grooming him and Soares to feed through to the first team eventually. Danze is on a huge learning curve at the minute. He's one for the future. So give the guy a break B the B.


I always give players more than a full season before I make a deep-down, full judgement of the player. But his passing and play has been THAT poor that I will be critical this early. If he proves me wrong, great, a nice + for Palace and a hand in the air and "well done" from me. :D
Also, why are people overly critical of flair players the moment they appear to be "under-performing" (IE, Kav) then LOVE players who are much worse but "work hard" (IE, Danze), yet give the ball away at every opportunity (Example = Aki Riihilahti. He couldn't pass for crap, at first). Isn't this "Hypocrisy" of the highest...??? I believe it bloomin' well is. :grrr: :grrr:

Farawayeagle
17-11-2004, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by B the Bad ©
I always give players more than a full season before I make a deep-down, full judgement of the player. But his passing and play has been THAT poor that I will be critical this early. If he proves me wrong, great, a nice + for Palace and a hand in the air and "well done" from me. :D
Also, why are people overly critical of flair players the moment they appear to be "under-performing" (IE, Kav) then LOVE players who are much worse but "work hard" (IE, Danze), yet give the ball away at every opportunity (Example = Aki Riihilahti. He couldn't pass for crap, at first). Isn't this "Hypocrisy" of the highest...??? I believe it bloomin' well is. :grrr: :grrr:

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I'll have to give you a wide berth on this one B the B.

I have been reading arussell's comments/evaluation of players over a number of years and he has always had a very balanced sense of how they perform.

Also as a former journalist who covered many football matches and rock concerts -- I know that his way of looking at the game will be different from yours as a regular fan -- and will be more focused.

As he said:

"Actually I was busy watching the game and taking match notes." -- arussell

This is not a criticism of how you saw the game. I just trust his (arussell's) judgement more due to his track record.

On Danze ---- he didn't say he was a star. Just that he wasn't as bad as you painted him.

And before you say anything I am not an Australian -- just an exile, living here.

Farawayeagle
17-11-2004, 01:16 AM
By the way shouldn't this Danze thread be in General Discussion -- now that he is a Palace player?

B the Bad ©
17-11-2004, 01:51 AM
LOL. I don't know who's posts to dissect first...






Originally posted by Farawayeagle
I have been reading arussell's comments/evaluation of players over a number of years and he has always had a very balanced sense of how they perform.

Ok, nice. What does that have to do with me? :confused:



Originally posted by Farawayeagle
Also as a former journalist who covered many football matches and rock concerts -- I know that his way of looking at the game will be different from yours as a regular fan -- and will be more focused.


This is hilarity at it's peak. You say this like I came from nappies just yesterday. As for "Rock Concerts" goes, no matter how much somebody reviews "personal opinion" for a certain length of time, it doesn't really gain you much "knowledge", because "taste" does not equate to "knowledge". Once again :confused:



Originally posted by Farawayeagle
This is not a criticism of how you saw the game. I just trust his (arussell's) judgement more due to his track record.

On Danze ---- he didn't say he was a star. Just that he wasn't as bad as you painted him.

And before you say anything I am not an Australian -- just an exile, living here.


Track records don't impress me. Saying something and THEN explaining that "something" well, does.

I didn't say Danze should be a "star" and didn't imply he (arussell) OR you OR anyone thought so, and yes, so far I paint him to be an extremely dark and ugly Mark Rothko piece of work. :D

Hey, even if you WERE an Australian, I wouldn't mind a bit of support for your fellow countryman :)


Originally posted by arussell
Actually I was busy watching the game and taking match notes.

I saw your other comments, but I don't agree with them.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion though of course, although you do seem to have it in for Danze and Torghelle, but love Kaviedes (!)

Soares and Derry didn't impress any more than Danze.

Borrowdale and Andrews were Palace's best two players on the pitch in terms of commitment and effort, and Derry has been more guilty than most recently of giving the ball away in reserve games.


If you were taking "match notes" as you say, you must have missed a lot of what was happening as you were indeed, writing. You must have been writing all game, because to say Danze had more energy than the middle two is damn right ridiculous. Derry was all over that Midfield for the first 45 mins. Totally bossed that game, while Danze looked like a lost child. Why was Andrews one of the best players on the pitch? He too gave the ball away, ran into walls, had poor Technique and was totally out of position. You can't base that comment on how "hard" he worked. If that was the winning Formula, Palace would be winning the Champions League by now.
As for:
"and Derry has been more guilty than most recently of giving the ball away in reserve games", I rubbish that remark. Derry was the only one thinking a step ahead of his team. All his passes had great purpose, he switched play excellently and his little dink passes through to the more "advanced" players up field were very affective. But once again, you were busy writing down all this to even notice it. Soares probably gave the ball away more than him (though was still class). The only poor thing Derry has done in the reserves recently, was to miss that one-on-one chance against Charlton when he put it just wide.

And what do you mean by your Torghelle and Kaviedes remark...?

Farawayeagle
17-11-2004, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by B the Bad ©
[B]LOL. I don't know who's posts to dissect first...

Ok, nice. What does that have to do with me? :confused:


It means I value his opinion more than yours.



This is hilarity at it's peak. You say this like I came from nappies just yesterday. As for "Rock Concerts" goes, no matter how much somebody reviews "personal opinion" for a certain length of time, it doesn't really gain you much "knowledge", because "taste" does not equate to "knowledge". Once again :confused:


Glad you were tickled. Fail to understand why.
Of course taste doesn't equate to knowledge. I never said - nor implied that.

All of my articles on sports/music events I covered were written from an objective point of view, based on my knowledge and observations --- coming as I do from the generation of journalists who were trained with a passion by real editors -- to leave personal opinion at home every morning.

These days, personal opinion is the first thing modern journalists bring along with them. It's what the editors want -- but kills objectivity in reporting. Even "the news" these days, reads like the gossip column.

arussell's comments have always struck me as being objective and fair


Track records don't impress me. Saying something and THEN explaining that "something" well, does.



I think arussell explained his opinion quite clearly.
As for track records -- they are an invaluable tool for assessing any human endeavour. To ignore them seems pretty silly to me. But each to his own.