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Baffled Bob 2 11-07-2021 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15896605)
It's true about GSTQ - it's not actually the English anthem at all, and we are appropriating it from the Scots, Welsh and Irish to whom it also belongs. The England team should choose a different song, like everyone else has.
I would choose Yellow Submarine. English, inclusive and fun.

west country boy 11-07-2021 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15896613)
"Jerusalem" and "I Vow to Thee, my Country" get used.
Billy Bragg has been banging on about this for years. Great if it happens, I suppose.
"Jerusalem" has a cracking tune but the words are a bit odd. I know there are various interpretations of the "And did those feet..." bit of "Milton", but none seem to make that much sense to me.

Incidentally, Billy Bragg seems to spend a lot of time these days on Twitter defending the rights of men to use ladies' changing rooms &c.

I wouldn't know IVTTMC if it bit me on the arse.

Maidstoned Eagle 11-07-2021 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MFBias (Post 15896450)
Marshall Chess, son of Chess Records’ founder, who managed The Stones, claimed to have come up with the idea of the tongue.
Marshall Chess is a fibber

cockneyrebel 11-07-2021 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15896613)
"Jerusalem" and "I Vow to Thee, my Country" get used.
Billy Bragg has been banging on about this for years. Great if it happens, I suppose.
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/a...salem-is-wrong

This is a relatively interesting read.

Maidstoned Eagle 11-07-2021 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by west country boy (Post 15896542)
I certainly don't immediately associate the lips and tongue logo with flag colours. I know there are different versions but it's usually bright red.
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If we were going to be pedantic, the original was just red and white, then a black outline was added to it.

cockneyrebel 11-07-2021 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by west country boy (Post 15896620)
"Jerusalem" has a cracking tune but the words are a bit odd. I know there are various interpretations of the "And did those feet..." bit of "Milton", but none seem to make that much sense to me.

Incidentally, Billy Bragg seems to spend a lot of time these days on Twitter defending the rights of men to use ladies' changing rooms &c.

I wouldn't know IVTTMC if it bit me on the arse.
Personally find Jerusalem boring.

Adlerhorst 11-07-2021 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cockneyrebel (Post 15896628)
Personally find Jerusalem boring.
Is this because the workers in the dark satanic mills were not out on strike?

Les Butler 11-07-2021 01:17 PM
Off to work now, then to a mates for the game, have my three lions shirt on, three lions crest on the back of my van and a St George's flag for the window but I will not outdo all the many Italian flags on houses, cars etc :D

I have seen but one other car with an England flag such is French Canada :D

Come on England !!!!

cockneyrebel 11-07-2021 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerhorst (Post 15896633)
Is this because the workers in the dark satanic mills were not out on strike?
Read the link I put up. It’s not about mills or the industrial Revolution.

I didn’t know that either until I just read the link but disappointed in you.

El Aguila 11-07-2021 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Baffled Bob 2 (Post 15896618)
I would choose Yellow Submarine. English, inclusive and fun.
And we could have used "Glad to be Gay" for that game that coincided with Pride Week.

cockneyrebel 11-07-2021 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Les Butler (Post 15896634)
Off to work now, then to a mates for the game, have my three lions shirt on, three lions crest on the back of my van and a St George's flag for the window but I will not outdo all the many Italian flags on houses, cars etc :D

I have seen but one other car with an England flag such is French Canada :D

Come on England !!!!
I watched the England Ukraine game in Bermondsey near to the old Den. Barely an England flag in sight. You can’t do anything these days.

Maidstoned Eagle 11-07-2021 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15896637)
And we could have used "Glad to be Gay" for that game that coincided with Pride Week.
Which version?

Maidstoned Eagle 11-07-2021 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Baffled Bob 2 (Post 15896556)
That's interesting. Someone once told me it was designed by Andy Warhol around the time of the Sticky Fingers album cover so I always assumed that was the case. Having just had a look, he had nothing to do with the logo.
Warhol designed the Sticky Fingers cover.

west country boy 11-07-2021 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle (Post 15896625)
If we were going to be pedantic, the original was just red and white, then a black outline was added to it.
Yeah, I know but I meant the tongue innit.

El Aguila 11-07-2021 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle (Post 15896639)
Which version?
I only know one version, so you'll have to er "fill me in" on what you mean there.
Definitely the Fall's version of "Jerusalem", though.

west country boy 11-07-2021 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15896649)
Definitely the Fall's version of "Jerusalem", though.
Yeah, yeah - we all know you prefer ELP's version.

edit - I have just listened to it and it is truly terrible

west country boy 11-07-2021 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cockneyrebel (Post 15896636)
Read the link I put up. It’s not about mills or the industrial Revolution.

I didn’t know that either until I just read the link but disappointed in you.
That's just one person's interpretation though. As I said, people will read into it what they want.

cpfc4evandeva 11-07-2021 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ardent Eagle Forever (Post 15896446)
But have you noticed, every f in politician jumps on the bandwagon whereas English team does well.

Didn't Tony Blair preside over the piss up in No 10 when England won the Ashes in 2005? Didn't he sign off on the MBEs for the team?
I get that. The difference is that it isn't Blair, Brown, Cameron, or May. It is him and his incredibly scummy mates.

Baffled Bob 2 11-07-2021 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva (Post 15896689)
I get that. The difference is that it isn't Blair, Brown, Cameron, or May. It is him and his incredibly scummy mates.
Yep. 13 of the squad qualify to play for other countries. Seeing the home secretary supporting this team is nauseating.

El Aguila 11-07-2021 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Baffled Bob 2 (Post 15896868)
Yep. 13 of the squad qualify to play for other countries. Seeing the home secretary supporting this team is nauseating.
Really? That's an amazing statistic, haven't seen that before. Lots of Irish Grandmas?


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