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Latvian Eagle 02-09-2019 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash (Post 14905642)
Never looks like he can be arsed when the U23 games are streamed either.

Looked shocking in pre season too. Such a ******* waste of space, yet still people were chanting his name. :rolleyes:

cockles 02-09-2019 08:25 PM

Paderborn are saying they Riedewald's agent wanted more money than they were willing to pay.

https://www.nw.de/sport/sc_paderborn...-leer-aus.html

Hazbaz 02-09-2019 08:29 PM

He was poor at the U23 game I went to, looked like he couldn’t be ars*d and didn’t look any better against Colchester. I know he’s not a left back but he is a left footed centre back so he should have been able to cope against a team 3 divisions below. It annoys me when players don’t seem to give their all for the team, not least because that money could be spent on someone who actually wants to be here

917L 02-09-2019 08:34 PM

Blokes a Parasite

Our very own Winston Bogarde

Hazbaz 02-09-2019 08:34 PM

Love this scroll down a little bit and watch the numbers move

https://www.wtfoot.com/player/jairo-riedewald/

Golf Boy 02-09-2019 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 917L (Post 14905653)
Blokes a Parasite

Our very own Winston Bogarde

Who agreed to pay him that much?

PalaceRichard 02-09-2019 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 917L (Post 14905653)
Blokes a Parasite

Our very own Winston Bogarde

I agree to an extent that professional pride should come into it at some stage, but isn't it our fault for paying £60,000 per week and not doing our due diligence?

Spoke to a Dutch colleague about him before he signed and he said that Riedewald was nothing special. In a similar way to any Norwegian could have told you that Sorloth was worth £1m max. We didn't do our homework in either case.

st albans 02-09-2019 08:51 PM

Sums up a number of modern footballers unfortunately

glaziers fan 02-09-2019 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cpfcfan1 (Post 14905600)
Jordan mutch mk11

Agreed. He’s fat, greedy and probably a Tory as well. Hope his career goes nowhere.

Glɑzier 02-09-2019 09:42 PM

Nobody beat me to it then: The Dutch Mutch.

Like timelords, there must always be one (at our club). I guess his time with Mutch in the under 23s can't have helped, a sort of handing over of the parasite baton from Master to Apprentice must have occurred during Mutch's latter time here.

Old Joe Paxton 02-09-2019 09:46 PM

Unpleasant,hateful, poisonous attitude by many in this thread. Odd.

chateauferret 02-09-2019 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cockles (Post 14905647)
Paderborn are saying they Riedewald's agent wanted more money than they were willing to pay.

https://www.nw.de/sport/sc_paderborn...-leer-aus.html

I think I've heard that one somewhere before. Parasites the lot of them.

chateauferret 02-09-2019 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Joe Paxton (Post 14905698)
Unpleasant,hateful, poisonous attitude by many in this thread. Odd.

I sympathised with him for a time because he was brought in by a twat manager who was trying to play a system that didn't work whilst behaving like a total bellend and was then left high and dry when that manager was kicked out of the door so hard that he landed in France.

He isn't ever going to fit in with Hodgson's system and Hodgson isn't going anywhere soon, so he's been given various chances to play first team football on loan somewhere in a system that suits him and that will develop him.

He may have received lemons but his willingness to make lemonade leaves a lot to be desired.

917L 02-09-2019 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Golf Boy (Post 14905657)
Who agreed to pay him that much?

In what way is how much we agreed to pay him relevant to my comment?

chateauferret 02-09-2019 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 917L (Post 14905707)
In what way is how much we agreed to pay him relevant to my comment?

Parasite size is proportional to the square of cost minus value.

danpalace07 03-09-2019 12:35 AM

Well at least he can sit around and let that magnificent barnet of his grow until January. Well in Jairo mate :p

Kai 03-09-2019 05:04 AM

The guy is letting his career die a death. He clearly doesn't want to play competitive football and prefers to sit around instead

Golf Boy 03-09-2019 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kai (Post 14905775)
The guy is letting his career die a death. He clearly doesn't want to play competitive football and prefers to sit around instead

No one wants to touch those wages, and he doesn’t want to relinquish them, so we are stuck in a Mutch situation. Amateurish by the club imo, considering money is so tight supposedly.

thereichstuff 03-09-2019 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Golf Boy (Post 14905776)
No one wants to touch those wages, and he doesn’t want to relinquish them, so we are stuck in a Mutch situation. Amateurish by the club imo, considering money is so tight supposedly.

How can you blame the club ? No one could have envisaged this scenario when we signed him . The club has tried to offload him numerous times but he’s not interested.

glaziers fan 03-09-2019 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by thereichstuff (Post 14905781)
How can you blame the club ? No one could have envisaged this scenario when we signed him . The club has tried to offload him numerous times but he’s not interested.

Because we signed him for too many wages commensurate to his abilities. If he was on £20k a week there would be teams willing to pay more and we could offload him. Also, blatantly a Frank De Boer signing, and to be fair to the club the strategy has changed since then.

I think we should refuse to put him in the U23s and make him train on his own elsewhere from the training ground. The guy is a mercenary, and best to keep him away from the squad.

chateauferret 03-09-2019 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thereichstuff (Post 14905781)
How can you blame the club ? No one could have envisaged this scenario when we signed him . The club has tried to offload him numerous times but he’s not interested.

If he won't do as he's told can't we pull the plug?

thereichstuff 03-09-2019 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chateauferret (Post 14905788)
If he won't do as he's told can't we pull the plug?

Yeah , do a boris on him :p

CpfcLoz 03-09-2019 06:53 AM

hes a good tidy passer thats about it, he has zero presence on the pitch though!

cpfcfly 03-09-2019 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazbaz (Post 14905654)
Love this scroll down a little bit and watch the numbers move

https://www.wtfoot.com/player/jairo-riedewald/

The same site who says McGregor is on £45000 a week, and thinks that DeAndre Yedlin (Newcastle United) plays for us.

Pinch of salt etc etc.

switchboard 03-09-2019 08:00 AM

Can't really blame him he came from Ajax's first team to end up being in the reserves the minute FDB left, he/we has wasted his career so it is no surprise he is going to finish his contract with us and end up taking a drastic wage cut to join another team. I'm sure he'd love to go out on loan and play but no club will pay his wages.

917L 03-09-2019 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by switchboard (Post 14905837)
I'm sure he'd love to go out on loan and play but no club will pay his wages.

We've agreed loan moves, and he refused them

Nothing to do with clubs not paying his wages, blokes just a waster

Yoda 03-09-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by switchboard (Post 14905837)
Can't really blame him he came from Ajax's first team to end up being in the reserves the minute FDB left, he/we has wasted his career so it is no surprise he is going to finish his contract with us and end up taking a drastic wage cut to join another team. I'm sure he'd love to go out on loan and play but no club will pay his wages.

I disagree.

If the guy wants a football career long term, he needs to go out there and play. This will improve his physical fitness and either help him to force his way back in to our team, or attract the attention of other clubs who might be interested in a transfer.

What is the point of a young man training at Beckenham all week for a few U23 matches, which is all he’ll get now we’re out the cup.

He doesn’t have some divine right to be picked by Roy, he needs to earn it. Playing at the back, where we’re short of backs, was an opportunity for him to widen his experience and show Roy he could maybe adapt temporarily to that role.

He should be telling his agent that he wants a loan, and he should ditch the guy if his own greed is preventing this.

eagle mart 03-09-2019 09:05 AM

I'm sure the agent is only wanting a deal that will ensure he gets a higher cut as well. The interest in him actually playing is probably secondary by some distance.

SussexRed&Blue 03-09-2019 09:16 AM

Seems crazy that some kind of deal couldn't be worked out for him to get some regular matches at a decent level at Paderborn.

Would surprise me if we were not willing to cover off a reasonable percentage of his wages in return for regular football.

What a waste of a career at the moment.

Some players get involved with Agents that are solely money hungry and don't look after the long term career for their players.

cockles 03-09-2019 09:18 AM

It's unclear if it was only the agent being greedy, or the agent and the player.

In any case, this is the trend with this bloke. At least Jordan Mutch agreed to and went out on a loan. Riedewald is far worse.

Kebe, Mutch & Riedewald - 3 of these were signed in the space of 4 years. I assume that makes us especially unlucky or something.

PeterK 03-09-2019 09:22 AM

You would have thought long term he's messing his career up by not taking these loans. Playing reserve team football for 2 years is no substitute for proper competitive games. He's going to find it a massive culture shock to be playing first team football again.

Celestial Empire 03-09-2019 09:34 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if, when he eventually moves, the (right) new manager will be able to get him playing.

RH seems to have a decent rapport with (e.g.) African players, who have mainly come from humble situations and grown up fast, but he has admitted that he finds it hard-work to relate to young lads who haven't grown up and just drift along with dozens of trivial distractions.

I would love to hear Richard Shaw's opinion, (who is straight talking and probably has a better insight). RH and RS must have discussed Jairo, but RH can't afford to waste his time trying to coax Jairo the drifter.

MasterYoda 03-09-2019 10:38 AM

Amazed that when talks with PSG fell through Barcelona didn't sign him over Neymar.

libran 03-09-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MasterYoda (Post 14905942)
Amazed that when talks with PSG fell through Barcelona didn't sign him over Neymar.

He wanted the number 10 shirt but Messi wouldn't give it up so the deal fell through

Happy Arthur 03-09-2019 11:03 AM

Some transfers don't work out. Lets not beat ourselves up. Also we live in a world where footballers and agents hold all the cards. Every club has similar issues.

I also have a degree of empathy for Jairo as the guy that bought him was sacked after 6 weeks.

917L 03-09-2019 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Arthur (Post 14905964)
Some transfers don't work out. Lets not beat ourselves up. Also we live in a world where footballers and agents hold all the cards. Every club has similar issues.

I also have a degree of empathy for Jairo as the guy that bought him was sacked after 6 weeks.

You have empathy with a highly paid footballer who simply want to sit in the reserves and makes no attempt to revive his career by a loan move?

Really?

Gazpacho 03-09-2019 11:36 AM

Can he play right back?

stinky 03-09-2019 11:41 AM

.

pots1970 03-09-2019 12:03 PM

I always thought that players with attitude problems got filtered out as they grew older, so that you are left with extremely determined young men who are only focused on playing and improving, our recent experiences have completely proved my view wrong, if Jairo is so concerned by finances he must surely realize that the only way to guarantee them for his short career is to bust a nut every time he plays and force his way into Roys plans

chateauferret 03-09-2019 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Arthur (Post 14905964)
Some transfers don't work out. Lets not beat ourselves up. Also we live in a world where footballers and agents hold all the cards. Every club has similar issues.

I also have a degree of empathy for Jairo as the guy that bought him was sacked after 6 weeks.

The guy that brought Kelly to the club f***ed off a few days later. I haven't seen Kelly refusing to put a shift in.

Stavros 69 03-09-2019 01:15 PM

Amazed that we haven’t pinged him out to a championship side.
That would sort him out for a season

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 03-09-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stavros 69 (Post 14906051)
Amazed that we haven’t pinged him out to a championship side.
That would sort him out for a season

He would probably turn it down like he did last summer.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 03-09-2019 01:18 PM

As much as we all disliked Mutch, at least he looked like he put effort in during pre-season and under 23 games. At least he went on loan rather than staying here where he knew he wouldn't play.

Can't say the same for Riedewald. Who is quite possibly or probably the club's worst ever signing.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 03-09-2019 01:20 PM

Also, why do the crap ones always have long contracts?!! 3 more seasons with this guy!

Does he really want to waste 5 years of his football career?!

stinky 03-09-2019 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stavros 69 (Post 14906051)
Amazed that we haven’t pinged him out to a championship side.
That would sort him out for a season

That's not the issue. We've accepted offers for him on loan quite a few times. He's turned all of them down.

He's a joke.

Gollum 03-09-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash (Post 14906055)

Can't say the same for Riedewald. Who is quite possibly or probably the club's worst ever signing.

Jimmy Kebe : "Hold my beer".....

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 03-09-2019 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gollum (Post 14906061)
Jimmy Kebe : "Hold my beer".....

Jairo cost 4 times as much, higher wages and didn't agree to leave fairly soon.

So I take your point but I reckon Jairo is worse.

chateauferret 03-09-2019 01:23 PM

Can we not require him to go on loan FFS?

cockles 03-09-2019 01:24 PM

In a progression of "worstness" and increasing cost:

Kebe -> Mutch -> Riedewald

Olympian2 03-09-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash (Post 14906057)
Also, why do the crap ones always have long contracts?!! 3 more seasons with this guy!

Does he really want to earn £60k/week for 5 years without doing much?!

EFA

thefox 03-09-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash (Post 14906057)
Also, why do the crap ones always have long contracts?!! 3 more seasons with this guy!

Does he really want to waste 5 years of his football career?!

A lazy waster gets paid to sit on his arse for 5 years and ****s off back to Holland with €17M for his troubles. I don't think he cares. He will.be set for life. Plus of course his signing on fee.

Golf Boy 03-09-2019 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thefox (Post 14906099)
A lazy waster gets paid to sit on his arse for 5 years and ****s off back to Holland with €17M for his troubles. I don't think he cares. He will.be set for life. Plus of course his signing on fee.

As i said before, who makes these deals? You’d have thought such a canny businessman would have contingencies in place.

chateauferret 03-09-2019 02:43 PM

I think when the canny businessman was recruited they read "canny" in the Glaswegian dialect rather than the Highland one.

cockles 03-09-2019 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chateauferret (Post 14906117)
I think when the canny businessman was recruited they read "canny" in the Glaswegian dialect rather than the Highland one.

Bit cerebral for the BBS surely :D

917L 03-09-2019 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golf Boy (Post 14906111)
As i said before, who makes these deals? You’d have thought such a canny businessman would have contingencies in place.

What kind of contingency?

TAM 03-09-2019 04:07 PM

It has nothing to do with wages and he wants to go out on a loan. Don't believe some poor analysis about him when you don't know for sure why he isn't playing or out for a loan.

Yoda 03-09-2019 04:14 PM

That’s OK, I’m happy to believe my own eyes and judgement having seen him play several times, often against what should be weaker opposition for him.

Braders 03-09-2019 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stinky (Post 14906058)
That's not the issue. We've accepted offers for him on loan quite a few times. He's turned all of them down.

He's a joke.

What a wanker he is.

Timbo 03-09-2019 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TAM (Post 14906197)
It has nothing to do with wages and he wants to go out on a loan. Don't believe some poor analysis about him when you don't know for sure why he isn't playing or out for a loan.

You had better inform us then because from the available facts it looks like JR would rather relax and take the money than fight for his career

Golf Boy 03-09-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 917L (Post 14906154)
What kind of contingency?

Trying. Or going on loan if needs be - he would still have signed had that been in there.

Golf Boy 03-09-2019 04:33 PM

It seems as a player, once the contract is signed you don’t even have to stay fit to get full pay FFS.

thereichstuff 03-09-2019 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Golf Boy (Post 14906219)
Trying. Or going on loan if needs be - he would still have signed had that been in there.

Is that clause ever been inserted into a contract.

Golf Boy 03-09-2019 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thereichstuff (Post 14906222)
Is that clause ever been inserted into a contract.

I dunno. Would you stay in Holland if that was in your 5 year 60 k a week offer?

Hazbaz 03-09-2019 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash (Post 14906054)
He would probably turn it down like he did last summer.

It would be hard to turn down if we could get a loan with say Charlton, even if we happy to cover some of his wages, he would not have to move so there would be no valid reason to say no

Edit or even Bromley ffs

Jerry Murphy's Fringe 03-09-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Golf Boy (Post 14906221)
It seems as a player, once the contract is signed you don’t even have to stay fit to get full pay FFS.


I read that Bundesliga contracts have clauses for reduced pay if injured. Potential conflicts in that scenario, though - popular players masking an injury etc. It's like the reverse of those infamous 'picked when fit' clauses which caused much disgruntlement.

Golf Boy 03-09-2019 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Murphy's Fringe (Post 14906356)
I read that Bundesliga contracts have clauses for reduced pay if injured. Potential conflicts in that scenario, though - popular players masking an injury etc. It's like the reverse of those infamous 'picked when fit' clauses which caused much disgruntlement.

I was referring to general fitness ( which can be measured ) rather than injury.

cpalacefan88 04-09-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gollum (Post 14906061)
Jimmy Kebe : "Hold my beer".....

My lasting memory of Jimmy Kebe is during our first match against liverpool in our first year in the prem, the lad was through on goal and inexplicably turned the other way and lost possession. Never been so upset watching a football match!

orp pisshead1 04-09-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chateauferret (Post 14906038)
The guy that brought Kelly to the club f***ed off a few days later. I haven't seen Kelly refusing to put a shift in.

On the contrary , Kelly has been getting better and better :p. Vital player for us imo.

Lprkorngod 04-09-2019 06:36 PM

Arguably the worst signing we've made since being in the prem (Initial outlay + wages)

mushroom 09-09-2019 01:36 PM

Just bottled a challenge for u23s... Brighty called it "utterly embarrassing".
He ain't tracking his runners either... his time is done here.

SOUTHGATE EAGLE 09-09-2019 02:03 PM

Goes to show that professional pride is required to reach your potential. What a waste of talent.

Olympian2 09-09-2019 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mushroom (Post 14911479)
Just bottled a challenge for u23s... Brighty called it "utterly embarrassing".
He ain't tracking his runners either... his time is done here.

That's quite a statement made by an official of the club on a player.

jcreedy 09-09-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mushroom (Post 14911479)
Just bottled a challenge for u23s... Brighty called it "utterly embarrassing".
He ain't tracking his runners either... his time is done here.

The majority of professional footballers now bottle challenges. Wilf does it every game, but it's ok, because he's Wilf.

I'm not saying it's right. I hate it. But they all do it.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 09-09-2019 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mushroom (Post 14911479)
Just bottled a challenge for u23s... Brighty called it "utterly embarrassing".
He ain't tracking his runners either... his time is done here.

Not surprised. I suspect Bright's views on him reflect the rest of the club's.

Jairo bottled everything on his debut and a lot ever since. I remember him turning his back completely on a shot to allow Bristol City to score in that cup game too.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 09-09-2019 02:25 PM

How are/ did the U23s get on anyway?

rainbow_child 09-09-2019 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash (Post 14911538)
How are/ did the U23s get on anyway?

They drew 0-0

Summary

Stephen Henderson and Jairo Riedewald start
Jason Lokilo skims the post with a free-kick
Half time: 0-0
Nya Kirby sees a penalty saved
Full time: 0-0

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 09-09-2019 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainbow_child (Post 14911544)
They drew 0-0

Summary

Stephen Henderson and Jairo Riedewald start
Jason Lokilo skims the post with a free-kick
Half time: 0-0
Nya Kirby sees a penalty saved
Full time: 0-0

Cheers.

regal_eagle 09-09-2019 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash (Post 14911538)
How are/ did the U23s get on anyway?

I went and left even more annoyed at Jairo. He isn't putting the effort in, and being the senior player on the pitch you'd expect some direction coming from him. None of that. Walked around looking at the grass most of the time.

Worksop Palace 09-09-2019 04:13 PM

Get rid

Period

Jughead 09-09-2019 04:14 PM

Why would he apply himself in a U 23 game though. He s a dutch international and basically frozen out of the 1 st team. He s being asked to play in a meanningless game on his birthday to top it off.

teesdale99 09-09-2019 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 14911669)
Why would he apply himself in a U 23 game though. He s a dutch international and basically frozen out of the 1 st team. He s being asked to play in a meanningless game on his birthday to top it off.

Professional pride. Because playing football is fun. Desire to show he is good enough to play in the first team/get a transfer to a decent club/resurrect a crumbling career.

Terrace Bickle 09-09-2019 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainbow_child (Post 14911544)
They drew 0-0

Summary

Stephen Henderson and Jairo Riedewald start
Jason Lokilo skims the post with a free-kick
Half time: 0-0
Nya Kirby sees a penalty saved
Full time: 0-0

It was a thriller then! [emoji6]

Nostrils 09-09-2019 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOUTHGATE EAGLE (Post 14911517)
What a waste of talent.

Yep, such a shame, he's technically an excellent player with everything going for him (except maybe pace), he just doesn't seem to have the drive required to succeed over here.

1905 09-09-2019 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regal_eagle (Post 14911664)
I went and left even more annoyed at Jairo. He isn't putting the effort in, and being the senior player on the pitch you'd expect some direction coming from him. None of that. Walked around looking at the grass most of the time.

Watched the live stream and totally agree, terrible performance from him. Interesting what Bright was saying about him during the commentary. Hard to see where he goes from here

Worksop Palace 09-09-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 14911669)
Why would he apply himself in a U 23 game though. He s a dutch international and basically frozen out of the 1 st team. He s being asked to play in a meanningless game on his birthday to top it off.

Not sure if serious.....

Latvian Eagle 09-09-2019 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 14911669)
Why would he apply himself in a U 23 game though. He s a dutch international and basically frozen out of the 1 st team. He s being asked to play in a meanningless game on his birthday to top it off.

Why would we even think about giving him first team opportunities if he can't even be bothered to apply himself?

regal_eagle 09-09-2019 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 14911669)
Why would he apply himself in a U 23 game though. He s a dutch international and basically frozen out of the 1 st team. He s being asked to play in a meanningless game on his birthday to top it off.

That's a terrible attitude Jughead!

You say he's a Dutch international.. he has played 3 times for Netherlands, losing twice to turkey & kazahstan, getting subbed on 39' in his last appearance for the full international squad, before being dropped down to the U21s again.

Those 3 LB appearances were in 2015!

Keeping him as LB backup I can understand, but if he's trotting about with kids & can't be bothered, who's gonna give hime a chance against decent opposition?

regal_eagle 09-09-2019 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 14911677)
Not sure if serious.....

Not sure if Jairo...

cockles 09-09-2019 04:45 PM

Why does he get first name terms from most posters?

Mutch was called Mutch 99% of the time. It's near the reverse with this waster.

MFBias 09-09-2019 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mushroom (Post 14911479)
Just bottled a challenge for u23s... Brighty called it "utterly embarrassing".
He ain't tracking his runners either... his time is done here.

It wasn't that bad the tackle, Bright loves to criticise after the event as if he knows all. I like the man but his commentary is fairly self-superior. He operates in a world of hindsight.

Also Rieldewald had moments where he looked composed on the ball and likes to get in around the opposition box. He was working hard till the final whistle, so his attitude is good, if he was Jonny Williams people wouldn't be looking for him to fail.

Billy Rhino 09-09-2019 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockles (Post 14911698)
Why does he get first name terms from most posters?

Mutch was called Mutch 99% of the time. It's near the reverse with this waster.

Because Reedywalled is hard to spell.

MFBias 09-09-2019 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockles (Post 14911698)
Why does he get first name terms from most posters?

Mutch was called Mutch 99% of the time. It's near the reverse with this waster.

People like to use first names rather than bother to try to spell a 'difficult' surname. Very few people call Miliviojević by his surname on here. You will see lineups for the whole team with everyones surname but him as it's easier to write 'Luka' than bother to attempt/learn to spell it. To be fair people struggle with Tomkins and McArthur..

Nostrils 09-09-2019 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFBias (Post 14911706)
It wasn't that bad the tackle, Bright loves to criticise after the event as if he knows all. I like the man but his commentary is fairly self-superior. He operates in a world of hindsight.

All about opinions I suppose, but I quite enjoy his commentary. It's not in any way polished, but he does add insights that you wouldn't usually get. And in fairness, you're a hard task master if you expect him to be a clairvoyant.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 09-09-2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by regal_eagle (Post 14911664)
I went and left even more annoyed at Jairo. He isn't putting the effort in, and being the senior player on the pitch you'd expect some direction coming from him. None of that. Walked around looking at the grass most of the time.

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest.l and fits in with the growing picture of him.

Wasn't willing to jump and challenge Mounie on his debut so gave him a free header a few yards out, didn't seem bothered to face and block a long range shot by Bristol City in the cup. Doesn't seem willing to do the work Roy wants in midfield so isn't wanted here, wasn't willing to go to Swansea and play football in the Championship and prove himself, wasn't willing to accept a decent loan abroad last year because they wouldn't guarantee a regular starting place (according to reports), he or his agent weren't willing to accept the financial package to go on loan this summer either (again, this is based on reports we have heard, so I admit that isn't a fact). Doesn't seem willing to put any effort in to Under 23 games either.

FDB left very quickly but sadly left us with Riedewald's 5 year contract too.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 09-09-2019 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 14911669)
Why would he apply himself in a U 23 game though. He s a dutch international and basically frozen out of the 1 st team. He s being asked to play in a meanningless game on his birthday to top it off.

He has offers to elsewhere and hasn't fancied it.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 09-09-2019 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by teesdale99 (Post 14911672)
Professional pride. Because playing football is fun. Desire to show he is good enough to play in the first team/get a transfer to a decent club/resurrect a crumbling career.

This.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 09-09-2019 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 14911683)
Why would we even think about giving him first team opportunities if he can't even be bothered to apply himself?

Exactly. You would hope he would try to prove the manager wrong. If not at another club, which he doesn't seem to want to do then in the cup games or for the Under 23s. He doesn't seem to want to do that either.

Financially he is doing great. 5 years with us on big wages but he also letting a huge chunk of a short career completely pass him by. Maybe he won't ever come to regret but I think most people would.

regal_eagle 09-09-2019 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cockles (Post 14911698)
Why does he get first name terms from most posters?

Mutch was called Mutch 99% of the time. It's near the reverse with this waster.

He can't be bothered, so why should I bother remembering if it's "Rei...." or "Rie..."

It's not like we're gonna see his surname on our shirt any time soon.

Surprised he's not been called Giro yet!

Nth Kent Eagle 09-09-2019 05:45 PM

He's hardly going to attract offers from top level clubs with that attitude is he?

Billy Rhino 09-09-2019 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MFBias (Post 14911708)
People like to use first names rather than bother to try to spell a 'difficult' surname. Very few people call Miliviojević by his surname on here. You will see lineups for the whole team with everyones surname but him as it's easier to write 'Luka' than bother to attempt/learn to spell it. To be fair people struggle with Tomkins and McArthur..

It's actually "Milivojević", although it's difficult to spell so I can understand how you got it wrong. ;)


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