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Paderborn are saying they Riedewald's agent wanted more money than they were willing to pay.
https://www.nw.de/sport/sc_paderborn...-leer-aus.html |
He was poor at the U23 game I went to, looked like he couldn’t be ars*d and didn’t look any better against Colchester. I know he’s not a left back but he is a left footed centre back so he should have been able to cope against a team 3 divisions below. It annoys me when players don’t seem to give their all for the team, not least because that money could be spent on someone who actually wants to be here
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Love this scroll down a little bit and watch the numbers move
https://www.wtfoot.com/player/jairo-riedewald/ |
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Spoke to a Dutch colleague about him before he signed and he said that Riedewald was nothing special. In a similar way to any Norwegian could have told you that Sorloth was worth £1m max. We didn't do our homework in either case. |
Sums up a number of modern footballers unfortunately
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Nobody beat me to it then: The Dutch Mutch.
Like timelords, there must always be one (at our club). I guess his time with Mutch in the under 23s can't have helped, a sort of handing over of the parasite baton from Master to Apprentice must have occurred during Mutch's latter time here. |
Unpleasant,hateful, poisonous attitude by many in this thread. Odd.
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He isn't ever going to fit in with Hodgson's system and Hodgson isn't going anywhere soon, so he's been given various chances to play first team football on loan somewhere in a system that suits him and that will develop him. He may have received lemons but his willingness to make lemonade leaves a lot to be desired. |
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Well at least he can sit around and let that magnificent barnet of his grow until January. Well in Jairo mate :p
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The guy is letting his career die a death. He clearly doesn't want to play competitive football and prefers to sit around instead
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I think we should refuse to put him in the U23s and make him train on his own elsewhere from the training ground. The guy is a mercenary, and best to keep him away from the squad. |
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hes a good tidy passer thats about it, he has zero presence on the pitch though!
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Pinch of salt etc etc. |
Can't really blame him he came from Ajax's first team to end up being in the reserves the minute FDB left, he/we has wasted his career so it is no surprise he is going to finish his contract with us and end up taking a drastic wage cut to join another team. I'm sure he'd love to go out on loan and play but no club will pay his wages.
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Nothing to do with clubs not paying his wages, blokes just a waster |
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If the guy wants a football career long term, he needs to go out there and play. This will improve his physical fitness and either help him to force his way back in to our team, or attract the attention of other clubs who might be interested in a transfer. What is the point of a young man training at Beckenham all week for a few U23 matches, which is all he’ll get now we’re out the cup. He doesn’t have some divine right to be picked by Roy, he needs to earn it. Playing at the back, where we’re short of backs, was an opportunity for him to widen his experience and show Roy he could maybe adapt temporarily to that role. He should be telling his agent that he wants a loan, and he should ditch the guy if his own greed is preventing this. |
I'm sure the agent is only wanting a deal that will ensure he gets a higher cut as well. The interest in him actually playing is probably secondary by some distance.
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Seems crazy that some kind of deal couldn't be worked out for him to get some regular matches at a decent level at Paderborn.
Would surprise me if we were not willing to cover off a reasonable percentage of his wages in return for regular football. What a waste of a career at the moment. Some players get involved with Agents that are solely money hungry and don't look after the long term career for their players. |
It's unclear if it was only the agent being greedy, or the agent and the player.
In any case, this is the trend with this bloke. At least Jordan Mutch agreed to and went out on a loan. Riedewald is far worse. Kebe, Mutch & Riedewald - 3 of these were signed in the space of 4 years. I assume that makes us especially unlucky or something. |
You would have thought long term he's messing his career up by not taking these loans. Playing reserve team football for 2 years is no substitute for proper competitive games. He's going to find it a massive culture shock to be playing first team football again.
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I wouldn't be surprised if, when he eventually moves, the (right) new manager will be able to get him playing.
RH seems to have a decent rapport with (e.g.) African players, who have mainly come from humble situations and grown up fast, but he has admitted that he finds it hard-work to relate to young lads who haven't grown up and just drift along with dozens of trivial distractions. I would love to hear Richard Shaw's opinion, (who is straight talking and probably has a better insight). RH and RS must have discussed Jairo, but RH can't afford to waste his time trying to coax Jairo the drifter. |
Amazed that when talks with PSG fell through Barcelona didn't sign him over Neymar.
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Some transfers don't work out. Lets not beat ourselves up. Also we live in a world where footballers and agents hold all the cards. Every club has similar issues.
I also have a degree of empathy for Jairo as the guy that bought him was sacked after 6 weeks. |
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Can he play right back?
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I always thought that players with attitude problems got filtered out as they grew older, so that you are left with extremely determined young men who are only focused on playing and improving, our recent experiences have completely proved my view wrong, if Jairo is so concerned by finances he must surely realize that the only way to guarantee them for his short career is to bust a nut every time he plays and force his way into Roys plans
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Amazed that we haven’t pinged him out to a championship side.
That would sort him out for a season |
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As much as we all disliked Mutch, at least he looked like he put effort in during pre-season and under 23 games. At least he went on loan rather than staying here where he knew he wouldn't play.
Can't say the same for Riedewald. Who is quite possibly or probably the club's worst ever signing. |
Also, why do the crap ones always have long contracts?!! 3 more seasons with this guy!
Does he really want to waste 5 years of his football career?! |
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He's a joke. |
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So I take your point but I reckon Jairo is worse. |
Can we not require him to go on loan FFS?
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In a progression of "worstness" and increasing cost:
Kebe -> Mutch -> Riedewald |
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I think when the canny businessman was recruited they read "canny" in the Glaswegian dialect rather than the Highland one.
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It has nothing to do with wages and he wants to go out on a loan. Don't believe some poor analysis about him when you don't know for sure why he isn't playing or out for a loan.
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That’s OK, I’m happy to believe my own eyes and judgement having seen him play several times, often against what should be weaker opposition for him.
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It seems as a player, once the contract is signed you don’t even have to stay fit to get full pay FFS.
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Edit or even Bromley ffs |
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I read that Bundesliga contracts have clauses for reduced pay if injured. Potential conflicts in that scenario, though - popular players masking an injury etc. It's like the reverse of those infamous 'picked when fit' clauses which caused much disgruntlement. |
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Arguably the worst signing we've made since being in the prem (Initial outlay + wages)
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Just bottled a challenge for u23s... Brighty called it "utterly embarrassing".
He ain't tracking his runners either... his time is done here. |
Goes to show that professional pride is required to reach your potential. What a waste of talent.
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I'm not saying it's right. I hate it. But they all do it. |
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Jairo bottled everything on his debut and a lot ever since. I remember him turning his back completely on a shot to allow Bristol City to score in that cup game too. |
How are/ did the U23s get on anyway?
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Summary Stephen Henderson and Jairo Riedewald start Jason Lokilo skims the post with a free-kick Half time: 0-0 Nya Kirby sees a penalty saved Full time: 0-0 |
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Get rid
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Why would he apply himself in a U 23 game though. He s a dutch international and basically frozen out of the 1 st team. He s being asked to play in a meanningless game on his birthday to top it off.
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You say he's a Dutch international.. he has played 3 times for Netherlands, losing twice to turkey & kazahstan, getting subbed on 39' in his last appearance for the full international squad, before being dropped down to the U21s again. Those 3 LB appearances were in 2015! Keeping him as LB backup I can understand, but if he's trotting about with kids & can't be bothered, who's gonna give hime a chance against decent opposition? |
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Why does he get first name terms from most posters?
Mutch was called Mutch 99% of the time. It's near the reverse with this waster. |
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Also Rieldewald had moments where he looked composed on the ball and likes to get in around the opposition box. He was working hard till the final whistle, so his attitude is good, if he was Jonny Williams people wouldn't be looking for him to fail. |
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Wasn't willing to jump and challenge Mounie on his debut so gave him a free header a few yards out, didn't seem bothered to face and block a long range shot by Bristol City in the cup. Doesn't seem willing to do the work Roy wants in midfield so isn't wanted here, wasn't willing to go to Swansea and play football in the Championship and prove himself, wasn't willing to accept a decent loan abroad last year because they wouldn't guarantee a regular starting place (according to reports), he or his agent weren't willing to accept the financial package to go on loan this summer either (again, this is based on reports we have heard, so I admit that isn't a fact). Doesn't seem willing to put any effort in to Under 23 games either. FDB left very quickly but sadly left us with Riedewald's 5 year contract too. |
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Financially he is doing great. 5 years with us on big wages but he also letting a huge chunk of a short career completely pass him by. Maybe he won't ever come to regret but I think most people would. |
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It's not like we're gonna see his surname on our shirt any time soon. Surprised he's not been called Giro yet! |
He's hardly going to attract offers from top level clubs with that attitude is he?
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