Looked shocking in pre season too. Such a ******* waste of space, yet still people were chanting his name. :rolleyes:

Paderborn are saying they Riedewald's agent wanted more money than they were willing to pay.

https://www.nw.de/sport/sc_paderborn...-leer-aus.html

He was poor at the U23 game I went to, looked like he couldn’t be ars*d and didn’t look any better against Colchester. I know he’s not a left back but he is a left footed centre back so he should have been able to cope against a team 3 divisions below. It annoys me when players don’t seem to give their all for the team, not least because that money could be spent on someone who actually wants to be here

Blokes a Parasite

Our very own Winston Bogarde

Love this scroll down a little bit and watch the numbers move

https://www.wtfoot.com/player/jairo-riedewald/

Who agreed to pay him that much?

I agree to an extent that professional pride should come into it at some stage, but isn't it our fault for paying £60,000 per week and not doing our due diligence?

Spoke to a Dutch colleague about him before he signed and he said that Riedewald was nothing special. In a similar way to any Norwegian could have told you that Sorloth was worth £1m max. We didn't do our homework in either case.

Sums up a number of modern footballers unfortunately

Agreed. He’s fat, greedy and probably a Tory as well. Hope his career goes nowhere.

Nobody beat me to it then: The Dutch Mutch.

Like timelords, there must always be one (at our club). I guess his time with Mutch in the under 23s can't have helped, a sort of handing over of the parasite baton from Master to Apprentice must have occurred during Mutch's latter time here.

Unpleasant,hateful, poisonous attitude by many in this thread. Odd.

I think I've heard that one somewhere before. Parasites the lot of them.

I sympathised with him for a time because he was brought in by a twat manager who was trying to play a system that didn't work whilst behaving like a total bellend and was then left high and dry when that manager was kicked out of the door so hard that he landed in France.

He isn't ever going to fit in with Hodgson's system and Hodgson isn't going anywhere soon, so he's been given various chances to play first team football on loan somewhere in a system that suits him and that will develop him.

He may have received lemons but his willingness to make lemonade leaves a lot to be desired.

In what way is how much we agreed to pay him relevant to my comment?

Parasite size is proportional to the square of cost minus value.

Well at least he can sit around and let that magnificent barnet of his grow until January. Well in Jairo mate :p

The guy is letting his career die a death. He clearly doesn't want to play competitive football and prefers to sit around instead

No one wants to touch those wages, and he doesn’t want to relinquish them, so we are stuck in a Mutch situation. Amateurish by the club imo, considering money is so tight supposedly.

How can you blame the club ? No one could have envisaged this scenario when we signed him . The club has tried to offload him numerous times but he’s not interested.

Because we signed him for too many wages commensurate to his abilities. If he was on £20k a week there would be teams willing to pay more and we could offload him. Also, blatantly a Frank De Boer signing, and to be fair to the club the strategy has changed since then.

I think we should refuse to put him in the U23s and make him train on his own elsewhere from the training ground. The guy is a mercenary, and best to keep him away from the squad.

If he won't do as he's told can't we pull the plug?

Yeah , do a boris on him :p

hes a good tidy passer thats about it, he has zero presence on the pitch though!

The same site who says McGregor is on £45000 a week, and thinks that DeAndre Yedlin (Newcastle United) plays for us.

Pinch of salt etc etc.

Can't really blame him he came from Ajax's first team to end up being in the reserves the minute FDB left, he/we has wasted his career so it is no surprise he is going to finish his contract with us and end up taking a drastic wage cut to join another team. I'm sure he'd love to go out on loan and play but no club will pay his wages.

We've agreed loan moves, and he refused them

Nothing to do with clubs not paying his wages, blokes just a waster

I disagree.

If the guy wants a football career long term, he needs to go out there and play. This will improve his physical fitness and either help him to force his way back in to our team, or attract the attention of other clubs who might be interested in a transfer.

What is the point of a young man training at Beckenham all week for a few U23 matches, which is all he’ll get now we’re out the cup.

He doesn’t have some divine right to be picked by Roy, he needs to earn it. Playing at the back, where we’re short of backs, was an opportunity for him to widen his experience and show Roy he could maybe adapt temporarily to that role.

He should be telling his agent that he wants a loan, and he should ditch the guy if his own greed is preventing this.

I'm sure the agent is only wanting a deal that will ensure he gets a higher cut as well. The interest in him actually playing is probably secondary by some distance.

Seems crazy that some kind of deal couldn't be worked out for him to get some regular matches at a decent level at Paderborn.

Would surprise me if we were not willing to cover off a reasonable percentage of his wages in return for regular football.

What a waste of a career at the moment.

Some players get involved with Agents that are solely money hungry and don't look after the long term career for their players.

It's unclear if it was only the agent being greedy, or the agent and the player.

In any case, this is the trend with this bloke. At least Jordan Mutch agreed to and went out on a loan. Riedewald is far worse.

Kebe, Mutch & Riedewald - 3 of these were signed in the space of 4 years. I assume that makes us especially unlucky or something.

You would have thought long term he's messing his career up by not taking these loans. Playing reserve team football for 2 years is no substitute for proper competitive games. He's going to find it a massive culture shock to be playing first team football again.

I wouldn't be surprised if, when he eventually moves, the (right) new manager will be able to get him playing.

RH seems to have a decent rapport with (e.g.) African players, who have mainly come from humble situations and grown up fast, but he has admitted that he finds it hard-work to relate to young lads who haven't grown up and just drift along with dozens of trivial distractions.

I would love to hear Richard Shaw's opinion, (who is straight talking and probably has a better insight). RH and RS must have discussed Jairo, but RH can't afford to waste his time trying to coax Jairo the drifter.

Amazed that when talks with PSG fell through Barcelona didn't sign him over Neymar.

He wanted the number 10 shirt but Messi wouldn't give it up so the deal fell through

Some transfers don't work out. Lets not beat ourselves up. Also we live in a world where footballers and agents hold all the cards. Every club has similar issues.

I also have a degree of empathy for Jairo as the guy that bought him was sacked after 6 weeks.

You have empathy with a highly paid footballer who simply want to sit in the reserves and makes no attempt to revive his career by a loan move?

Really?

Can he play right back?

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I always thought that players with attitude problems got filtered out as they grew older, so that you are left with extremely determined young men who are only focused on playing and improving, our recent experiences have completely proved my view wrong, if Jairo is so concerned by finances he must surely realize that the only way to guarantee them for his short career is to bust a nut every time he plays and force his way into Roys plans

The guy that brought Kelly to the club f***ed off a few days later. I haven't seen Kelly refusing to put a shift in.

Amazed that we haven’t pinged him out to a championship side.
That would sort him out for a season

He would probably turn it down like he did last summer.

As much as we all disliked Mutch, at least he looked like he put effort in during pre-season and under 23 games. At least he went on loan rather than staying here where he knew he wouldn't play.

Can't say the same for Riedewald. Who is quite possibly or probably the club's worst ever signing.

Also, why do the crap ones always have long contracts?!! 3 more seasons with this guy!

Does he really want to waste 5 years of his football career?!

That's not the issue. We've accepted offers for him on loan quite a few times. He's turned all of them down.

He's a joke.

Jimmy Kebe : "Hold my beer".....

Jairo cost 4 times as much, higher wages and didn't agree to leave fairly soon.

So I take your point but I reckon Jairo is worse.

Can we not require him to go on loan FFS?

In a progression of "worstness" and increasing cost:

Kebe -> Mutch -> Riedewald

EFA

A lazy waster gets paid to sit on his arse for 5 years and ****s off back to Holland with €17M for his troubles. I don't think he cares. He will.be set for life. Plus of course his signing on fee.

As i said before, who makes these deals? You’d have thought such a canny businessman would have contingencies in place.

I think when the canny businessman was recruited they read "canny" in the Glaswegian dialect rather than the Highland one.

Bit cerebral for the BBS surely :D

What kind of contingency?

It has nothing to do with wages and he wants to go out on a loan. Don't believe some poor analysis about him when you don't know for sure why he isn't playing or out for a loan.

That’s OK, I’m happy to believe my own eyes and judgement having seen him play several times, often against what should be weaker opposition for him.

What a wanker he is.

You had better inform us then because from the available facts it looks like JR would rather relax and take the money than fight for his career

Trying. Or going on loan if needs be - he would still have signed had that been in there.

It seems as a player, once the contract is signed you don’t even have to stay fit to get full pay FFS.

Is that clause ever been inserted into a contract.

I dunno. Would you stay in Holland if that was in your 5 year 60 k a week offer?

It would be hard to turn down if we could get a loan with say Charlton, even if we happy to cover some of his wages, he would not have to move so there would be no valid reason to say no

Edit or even Bromley ffs

I read that Bundesliga contracts have clauses for reduced pay if injured. Potential conflicts in that scenario, though - popular players masking an injury etc. It's like the reverse of those infamous 'picked when fit' clauses which caused much disgruntlement.

I was referring to general fitness ( which can be measured ) rather than injury.

My lasting memory of Jimmy Kebe is during our first match against liverpool in our first year in the prem, the lad was through on goal and inexplicably turned the other way and lost possession. Never been so upset watching a football match!

On the contrary , Kelly has been getting better and better :p. Vital player for us imo.

Arguably the worst signing we've made since being in the prem (Initial outlay + wages)

Just bottled a challenge for u23s... Brighty called it "utterly embarrassing".
He ain't tracking his runners either... his time is done here.

Goes to show that professional pride is required to reach your potential. What a waste of talent.

That's quite a statement made by an official of the club on a player.

The majority of professional footballers now bottle challenges. Wilf does it every game, but it's ok, because he's Wilf.

I'm not saying it's right. I hate it. But they all do it.

Not surprised. I suspect Bright's views on him reflect the rest of the club's.

Jairo bottled everything on his debut and a lot ever since. I remember him turning his back completely on a shot to allow Bristol City to score in that cup game too.

How are/ did the U23s get on anyway?

They drew 0-0

Summary

Stephen Henderson and Jairo Riedewald start
Jason Lokilo skims the post with a free-kick
Half time: 0-0
Nya Kirby sees a penalty saved
Full time: 0-0

Cheers.

I went and left even more annoyed at Jairo. He isn't putting the effort in, and being the senior player on the pitch you'd expect some direction coming from him. None of that. Walked around looking at the grass most of the time.

Get rid

Period

Why would he apply himself in a U 23 game though. He s a dutch international and basically frozen out of the 1 st team. He s being asked to play in a meanningless game on his birthday to top it off.

Professional pride. Because playing football is fun. Desire to show he is good enough to play in the first team/get a transfer to a decent club/resurrect a crumbling career.

It was a thriller then! [emoji6]

Yep, such a shame, he's technically an excellent player with everything going for him (except maybe pace), he just doesn't seem to have the drive required to succeed over here.

Watched the live stream and totally agree, terrible performance from him. Interesting what Bright was saying about him during the commentary. Hard to see where he goes from here

Not sure if serious.....

Why would we even think about giving him first team opportunities if he can't even be bothered to apply himself?

That's a terrible attitude Jughead!

You say he's a Dutch international.. he has played 3 times for Netherlands, losing twice to turkey & kazahstan, getting subbed on 39' in his last appearance for the full international squad, before being dropped down to the U21s again.

Those 3 LB appearances were in 2015!

Keeping him as LB backup I can understand, but if he's trotting about with kids & can't be bothered, who's gonna give hime a chance against decent opposition?

Not sure if Jairo...

Why does he get first name terms from most posters?

Mutch was called Mutch 99% of the time. It's near the reverse with this waster.

It wasn't that bad the tackle, Bright loves to criticise after the event as if he knows all. I like the man but his commentary is fairly self-superior. He operates in a world of hindsight.

Also Rieldewald had moments where he looked composed on the ball and likes to get in around the opposition box. He was working hard till the final whistle, so his attitude is good, if he was Jonny Williams people wouldn't be looking for him to fail.

Because Reedywalled is hard to spell.

People like to use first names rather than bother to try to spell a 'difficult' surname. Very few people call Miliviojević by his surname on here. You will see lineups for the whole team with everyones surname but him as it's easier to write 'Luka' than bother to attempt/learn to spell it. To be fair people struggle with Tomkins and McArthur..

All about opinions I suppose, but I quite enjoy his commentary. It's not in any way polished, but he does add insights that you wouldn't usually get. And in fairness, you're a hard task master if you expect him to be a clairvoyant.

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest.l and fits in with the growing picture of him.

Wasn't willing to jump and challenge Mounie on his debut so gave him a free header a few yards out, didn't seem bothered to face and block a long range shot by Bristol City in the cup. Doesn't seem willing to do the work Roy wants in midfield so isn't wanted here, wasn't willing to go to Swansea and play football in the Championship and prove himself, wasn't willing to accept a decent loan abroad last year because they wouldn't guarantee a regular starting place (according to reports), he or his agent weren't willing to accept the financial package to go on loan this summer either (again, this is based on reports we have heard, so I admit that isn't a fact). Doesn't seem willing to put any effort in to Under 23 games either.

FDB left very quickly but sadly left us with Riedewald's 5 year contract too.

He has offers to elsewhere and hasn't fancied it.

This.

Exactly. You would hope he would try to prove the manager wrong. If not at another club, which he doesn't seem to want to do then in the cup games or for the Under 23s. He doesn't seem to want to do that either.

Financially he is doing great. 5 years with us on big wages but he also letting a huge chunk of a short career completely pass him by. Maybe he won't ever come to regret but I think most people would.

He can't be bothered, so why should I bother remembering if it's "Rei...." or "Rie..."

It's not like we're gonna see his surname on our shirt any time soon.

Surprised he's not been called Giro yet!

He's hardly going to attract offers from top level clubs with that attitude is he?

It's actually "Milivojević", although it's difficult to spell so I can understand how you got it wrong. ;)