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alanlee11 26-02-2018 11:56 AM

How do we still only have 2 fit strikers?
 
Apologies for bringing this up again, but I still can't believe the situation we are in and really am surprised more people don't seem perplexed by it.

Let's have a look at some clubs that are similar to us in size and time spent in the top flight recently:

Bournemouth = x4 fit strikers, including Wilson, King and Defoe (all capable options)

Burnley = x4 strikers (Wood has a small injury right now)

Brighton (only just promoted) = x5 fit striker, including Murray, Ulloa.

Watford = x4 fit strikers

So imagine going half a season watching your only fit striker (Benteke) get injured and then turn in a terrible first half of the campaign, low on confidence and way way out of form. Let's not forget that Campbell left in June and Wickham got injured over a year ago! So really this situation should have been dealt with six months ago.

Not a criticism of Sorloth, he may well come good, but how on earth have we not brought in at least one more striker with something to actually offer instead of Benteke?!? Just someone with experience and a certain style of play - no need to try and get someone to score 20+ goals, just someone, almost for the sake of having another option.

The same thing applies to our current situation with wingers. Sako was injured before the window closed and yet we rolled on with just Wilf and Townsend, and you know what happened next...

Staggering complacency or terrible management of FFP from the owners. I am very concerned by Steve Parish's approach to this all, which was unforgettably spelt out in his "maybe the sun won't com up" Twitter rant in autumn last year. Gambling on not getting injuries in a season when we've already had real injury problems is a ridiculous risk to take in the January window.

Jach and Rakip - wow. Two of the poorest signings we've ever made. Before you say "you've not even seen them play" - that is the whole point, THEY ARE NOT READY TO PLAY. The manager won't select them, so what's the point?!?! How complacent would you have to be to buy only the three players we bought. The poor manager was crying out for players. He explicitly said he need to bring in a goalkeeper and we messed it up, embarrassingly being exposed by another chairman for our clumsy, disrespectful last minute bid for their goalie. As for Rakip on a six month loan, what is that about?

Roy worked a miracle dragging us out of that mess from the start of the season.

After five years in the top flight and I still feel decisions are made on recruitment based on Steve Parish's hunches, which are no more intuitive than
yours or mine.

Strangely only Spurs are gambling as much as we are, with just Kane and Llorente.

bradpitt 26-02-2018 01:02 PM

Negligence

Billyd 26-02-2018 01:03 PM

Its shocking from the club and will be the major reason should we go down.

Scrumpy 26-02-2018 01:05 PM

The window is closed and there is nothing we can do about it now,

GreatGonzo 26-02-2018 01:06 PM

Partly because we have 13 first team players out injured and we cannot afford to pay the wages of 30 first team players?

Jim Cannon 26-02-2018 01:06 PM

Same reason we only have 2 keepers neither of which are good enough

If we go down it's because we threw it all away through arrogance.

JDawg 26-02-2018 01:13 PM

Hardly a new revelation. At least we now have two.

Thefunkymonk 26-02-2018 01:15 PM

We haven’t had a balanced squad since promotion

pap 26-02-2018 01:16 PM

Twice as many as we had a month ago :D

Maidstoned Eagle 26-02-2018 01:20 PM

They did it just to annoy you.

red&blue_moomin 26-02-2018 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlee11 (Post 14133359)
Apologies for bringing this up again, but I still can't believe the situation we are in and really am surprised more people don't seem perplexed by it.

Let's have a look at some clubs that are similar to us in size and time spent in the top flight recently:

Bournemouth = x4 fit strikers, including Wilson, King and Defoe (all capable options)

Burnley = x4 strikers (Wood has a small injury right now)

Brighton (only just promoted) = x5 fit striker, including Murray, Ulloa.

Watford = x4 fit strikers

So imagine going half a season watching your only fit striker (Benteke) get injured and then turn in a terrible first half of the campaign, low on confidence and way way out of form. Let's not forget that Campbell left in June and Wickham got injured over a year ago! So really this situation should have been dealt with six months ago.

Not a criticism of Sorloth, he may well come good, but how on earth have we not brought in at least one more striker with something to actually offer instead of Benteke?!? Just someone with experience and a certain style of play - no need to try and get someone to score 20+ goals, just someone, almost for the sake of having another option.

The same thing applies to our current situation with wingers. Sako was injured before the window closed and yet we rolled on with just Wilf and Townsend, and you know what happened next...

Staggering complacency or terrible management of FFP from the owners. I am very concerned by Steve Parish's approach to this all, which was unforgettably spelt out in his "maybe the sun won't com up" Twitter rant in autumn last year. Gambling on not getting injuries in a season when we've already had real injury problems is a ridiculous risk to take in the January window.

Jach and Rakip - wow. Two of the poorest signings we've ever made. Before you say "you've not even seen them play" - that is the whole point, THEY ARE NOT READY TO PLAY. The manager won't select them, so what's the point?!?! How complacent would you have to be to buy only the three players we bought. The poor manager was crying out for players. He explicitly said he need to bring in a goalkeeper and we messed it up, embarrassingly being exposed by another chairman for our clumsy, disrespectful last minute bid for their goalie. As for Rakip on a six month loan, what is that about?

Roy worked a miracle dragging us out of that mess from the start of the season.

After five years in the top flight and I still feel decisions are made on recruitment based on Steve Parish's hunches, which are no more intuitive than
yours or mine.

Strangely only Spurs are gambling as much as we are, with just Kane and Llorente.

Both Rakip and Jach have been playing reserve games. Do you want to put them in straight away then injure them too? Cos guarenteed thats what will happen. It's the last 7 or 8 games that are important these next couple of games are all about damage limitation nothing more. We 'went' for the point with a lashed together team and very nearly got it against one of the best teams in the league, the injury to Tomkins torpedoed us.

They will be needed clearly given that we have one slightly fit CB and two midfielders that Roy uses regularly an injured Cabaye and Riedewald who Roy clearly sees as backup for Luka. But they also need to learn what Roy wants them to do given that he's very prescriptive about what the team can and can't do he's said multiple times he's going to use the FA cup and International break to integrate the new players in as we don't have quite so many matches.

Penstone Eagle 26-02-2018 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradpitt (Post 14133473)
Negligence

Yep

It's that simple.

wrightchipvcfc 26-02-2018 03:21 PM

It all came down to money why we got such a weak squad got to give credit to teams like burnley Brighton Huddersfield wAtford and bournmouth who all seem to have a better more balanced squad then palace also players that generally are fit to play most weeks how many injurys do we pick up in training alone.

Ruskin Old Boy 26-02-2018 03:23 PM

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Wolfnipplechips 26-02-2018 03:23 PM

I suppose threads are free.

switchboard 26-02-2018 03:30 PM

Wickham will be back soon.

Zohar's Penalty 26-02-2018 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by switchboard (Post 14133768)
Wickham will be back soon.

Haha :D

ebyeeckeagle 26-02-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 14133762)
I suppose threads are free.

On this occasion, I wish they weren't.

Russboy 26-02-2018 05:02 PM

Someone whispered asset stripping in another thread a la Hull. Looks that way with the pitiful lack of planning since Sam left, compounded by not backing Roy after a sterling job in raising us off the canvas.

Pinkie Brown 26-02-2018 05:23 PM

It's not asset stripping its just incompetence. To start a season with 1 striker and 2, not good enough, goalkeepers is madness. To still not put that right 5 months later is pure lunacy. On the plus side I haven't been to Shrewsbury in years (btw we will lose there guaranteed)

dave_who_ru 26-02-2018 05:30 PM

Mutch scoring goals for the under 23s.

Russboy 26-02-2018 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie Brown (Post 14133943)
It's not asset stripping its just incompetence. To start a season with 1 striker and 2, not good enough, goalkeepers is madness. To still not put that right 5 months later is pure lunacy. On the plus side I haven't been to Shrewsbury in years (btw we will lose there guaranteed)

I would say it smacks of a halfway house - if we muddle through great, another 100+M to play with. If we go down all the marquee players are sold and the owners pocket the parachute payments to get their money back and make a return.

If not then yes, utter incompetence. As I said on another thread I can't imagine any US sports team with such a poorly constructed squad of players as we have, so I'd be fascinated to hear Blitzer and Harris's thoughts (assuming my first paragraph is incorrect).

IanH 26-02-2018 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie Brown (Post 14133943)
On the plus side I haven't been to Shrewsbury in years (btw we will lose there guaranteed)

New ground since we last played there :p

Kai 26-02-2018 05:57 PM

Perhaps finally beating Shrewsbury is Parish's true wet dream, so he does whatever he can for it to come true??

wrightchipvcfc 26-02-2018 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinkie Brown (Post 14133943)
It's not asset stripping its just incompetence. To start a season with 1 striker and 2, not good enough, goalkeepers is madness. To still not put that right 5 months later is pure lunacy. On the plus side I haven't been to Shrewsbury in years (btw we will lose there guaranteed)

Use to love shrewsbury away train stopped right outside away end was a nice pub nearby just the result always seem to be bad remember winning there on a Sunday which was rear having a Sunday game in the 80s

alanlee11 01-10-2018 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlee11 (Post 14133359)
Apologies for bringing this up again, but I still can't believe the situation we are in and really am surprised more people don't seem perplexed by it.

Let's have a look at some clubs that are similar to us in size and time spent in the top flight recently:

Bournemouth = x4 fit strikers, including Wilson, King and Defoe (all capable options)

Burnley = x4 strikers (Wood has a small injury right now)

Brighton (only just promoted) = x5 fit striker, including Murray, Ulloa.

Watford = x4 fit strikers

So imagine going half a season watching your only fit striker (Benteke) get injured and then turn in a terrible first half of the campaign, low on confidence and way way out of form. Let's not forget that Campbell left in June and Wickham got injured over a year ago! So really this situation should have been dealt with six months ago.

Not a criticism of Sorloth, he may well come good, but how on earth have we not brought in at least one more striker with something to actually offer instead of Benteke?!? Just someone with experience and a certain style of play - no need to try and get someone to score 20+ goals, just someone, almost for the sake of having another option.

The same thing applies to our current situation with wingers. Sako was injured before the window closed and yet we rolled on with just Wilf and Townsend, and you know what happened next...

Staggering complacency or terrible management of FFP from the owners. I am very concerned by Steve Parish's approach to this all, which was unforgettably spelt out in his "maybe the sun won't com up" Twitter rant in autumn last year. Gambling on not getting injuries in a season when we've already had real injury problems is a ridiculous risk to take in the January window.

Jach and Rakip - wow. Two of the poorest signings we've ever made. Before you say "you've not even seen them play" - that is the whole point, THEY ARE NOT READY TO PLAY. The manager won't select them, so what's the point?!?! How complacent would you have to be to buy only the three players we bought. The poor manager was crying out for players. He explicitly said he need to bring in a goalkeeper and we messed it up, embarrassingly being exposed by another chairman for our clumsy, disrespectful last minute bid for their goalie. As for Rakip on a six month loan, what is that about?

Roy worked a miracle dragging us out of that mess from the start of the season.

After five years in the top flight and I still feel decisions are made on recruitment based on Steve Parish's hunches, which are no more intuitive than
yours or mine.

Strangely only Spurs are gambling as much as we are, with just Kane and Llorente.

I still think the chairman has A LOT to answer for in this department. The Premier League striker recruitment (lack of) has let us down for a long time now.

AddoWolz 02-10-2018 04:40 AM

Benteke and Wickham are taking close to £2 million pounds out of the club between them every 10 weeks for almost 0 return , don't think the club can afford to go out and get another striker.
As a side note PVA has scored more goals in the last year than all our strikers combined :eek: stick the boy upfront :p

Palace Yankee 02-10-2018 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AddoWolz (Post 14449585)
Benteke and Wickham are taking close to £2 million pounds out of the club between them every 10 weeks for almost 0 return , don't think the club can afford to go out and get another striker.
As a side note PVA has scored more goals in the last year than all our strikers combined :eek: stick the boy upfront :p

Could be inspired. Maybe boning up at left back wasn't such a fancy after all.

Adlerhorst 02-10-2018 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russboy (Post 14133969)
I would say it smacks of a halfway house - if we muddle through great, another 100+M to play with. If we go down all the marquee players are sold and the owners pocket the parachute payments to get their money back and make a return.

If not then yes, utter incompetence. As I said on another thread I can't imagine any US sports team with such a poorly constructed squad of players as we have, so I'd be fascinated to hear Blitzer and Harris's thoughts (assuming my first paragraph is incorrect).

You need to watch more us sports. For instance Jack Zís Mariners.

Penstone Eagle 02-10-2018 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradpitt (Post 14133473)
Negligence

This.

Dogburger 02-10-2018 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrightchipvcfc (Post 14134183)
Use to love shrewsbury away train stopped right outside away end was a nice pub nearby just the result always seem to be bad remember winning there on a Sunday which was rear having a Sunday game in the 80s

Never saw the pub ,always remember getting escorted straight into the ground ,herded like cattle through a series of barriers hour and half before KO . And the pies were awful ,the tea weak as piss and the pre match entertainment was betting on pigeons landing in the centre circle . F4cking horrible place , should have given the town to Wales and closed the border


Anyway ,yes two fit strikers ,well if you can call them that . The club has shown no ambition whatsoever in the last year to address the fact that they cant rely on Benteke to get goals , for me a main requirement for a striker

aj4england 02-10-2018 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AddoWolz (Post 14449585)
Benteke and Wickham are taking close to £2 million pounds out of the club between them every 10 weeks for almost 0 return , don't think the club can afford to go out and get another striker.
As a side note PVA has scored more goals in the last year than all our strikers combined :eek: stick the boy upfront :p

No Scotty Dan is the man especially for the last 20 mins

alanlee11 02-11-2018 01:51 PM

Wickham injured.

Now we only have Sorloth.

Sun hasn't come up Mr Parish.

Prince Phillip 02-11-2018 01:54 PM

Wilf’d better hurry up and turn into Thierry Henry, then. What’s the hold up?

thefox 02-11-2018 01:54 PM

We need to get all 4 of them off the books asap.

alanlee11 02-11-2018 01:55 PM

how has this mess dragged on for over a year now!?!

Mr Palace 02-11-2018 02:14 PM

We need a complete overhaul of our strikers. I wouldn't be against all of them being sold/moved on and us being able to start again (obviously I'm not including Wilf in that).

Pound for pound it's the worst strikeforce in the league.

Mr Palace 02-11-2018 02:14 PM

We need a complete overhaul of our strikers. I wouldn't be against all of them being sold/moved on and us being able to start again (obviously I'm not including Wilf in that).

Pound for pound it's the worst strikeforce in the league.

eaglejez 02-11-2018 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlee11 (Post 14490115)
Wickham injured.

Now we only have Sorloth.

Sun hasn't come up Mr Parish.

so we have zero fit strikers :(

alanlee11 02-11-2018 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglejez (Post 14490169)
so we have zero fit strikers :(

only Palace could have a striker crisis a year ago and manage to worsen on it the following year

Ron Dogers 02-11-2018 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlee11 (Post 14490174)
only Palace could have a striker crisis a year ago and manage to worsen on it the following year

Well we should be good at it having done the same thing with goalies for about 3 years!

Penstone Eagle 02-11-2018 04:44 PM

What a mess.

AddoWolz 02-11-2018 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Palace (Post 14490166)
We need a complete overhaul of our strikers. I wouldn't be against all of them being sold/moved on and us being able to start again (obviously I'm not including Wilf in that).

Pound for pound it's the worst strikeforce in the league.

Not so easy to move them on , they are on such high wages that nobody will touch them , the goal return over the past year and a half for the wages their picking up has been awful , I'm afraid we are stuck with them .

Mr Palace 02-11-2018 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AddoWolz (Post 14490384)
Not so easy to move them on , they are on such high wages that nobody will touch them , the goal return over the past year and a half for the wages their picking up has been awful , I'm afraid we are stuck with them .

I fear youíre probably right. Sadly.

ANDI29 02-11-2018 05:45 PM

Iím not sure how many strikers you need but rest assure that a 3rd and 4th striker wouldnít be somebody that is going to bang in goals and seat in the subs bench waiting for someone to get injured.

There is anough there the issue is the service and injures you cannot have 4 strikers who are 1st team strikers, we are not city or one of the other top clubs.

1. Benteke
2. Ayew
3. Sorloth
4. Whickam
5. Zaha

alanlee11 02-11-2018 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANDI29 (Post 14490442)
I’m not sure how many strikers you need but rest assure that a 3rd and 4th striker wouldn’t be somebody that is going to bang in goals and seat in the subs bench waiting for someone to get injured.

There is anough there the issue is the service and injures you cannot have 4 strikers who are 1st team strikers, we are not city or one of the other top clubs.

1. Benteke
2. Ayew
3. Sorloth
4. Whickam
5. Zaha

1. Benteke - injured, woefully out of form for a whole year. A YEAR!!
2. Ayew - not an out and out striker.
3. Sorloth - a kid from Danish league, nowhere near ready
4. Whickam - injured, injured during transfer window, so club should have not relied on him this season
5. Zaha - not a striker

newish eagle 02-11-2018 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlee11 (Post 14490174)
only Palace could have a striker crisis a year ago and manage to worsen on it the following year

At least some part of the club has gone to the next level.

Mr Palace 02-11-2018 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlee11 (Post 14490453)
1. Benteke - injured, woefully out of form for a whole year. A YEAR!!
2. Ayew - not an out and out striker.
3. Sorloth - a kid from Danish league, nowhere near ready
4. Whickam - injured, injured during transfer window, so club should have not relied on him this season
5. Zaha - not a striker

Spot on. Itís inept from the club. We got away with it once last year so to find ourselves in this situation again is depressing.

Pistol Knight 02-11-2018 07:48 PM

Paying over £50m + wages on a CB & a crocked striker has been the downfall, both vanity signings IMO

Russboy 02-11-2018 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistol Knight (Post 14490548)
Paying over £50m + wages on a CB & a crocked striker has been the downfall, both vanity signings IMO

The first time it happened I thought maybe Parish believed he could extract a few more transfer $$ out of Blitzer, Harris et al but was turned down.. But then to do it again..

Looks like we will have to overpay in January too.

Billy Rhino 02-11-2018 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistol Knight (Post 14490548)
Paying over £50m + wages on a CB & a crocked striker has been the downfall, both vanity signings IMO

The Americans wanted to go for Benteke, Parish said in an interview it was crazy money.

Lee sinnots ear 02-11-2018 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eaglejez (Post 14490169)
so we have zero fit strikers :(

Yep letís thanks ďIíd love to eat myselfĒ Pardew for selling Muzza now the leading Englishman scorer. Well done Super Al you complete and utter TWAT:grrr:

chateauferret 02-11-2018 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Palace (Post 14490546)
Spot on. Itís inept from the club. We got away with it once last year so to find ourselves in this situation again is depressing.

Zaha may not be a strikrr but he's still a better striker than all of the above put together.

Mr Palace 02-11-2018 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chateauferret (Post 14490584)
Zaha may not be a strikrr but he's still a better striker than all of the above put together.

This is true...

jobiinthelastmi 02-11-2018 10:48 PM

Worrying times.

I would absolutely kill for a player like Freedman/Morrison, something different from the generic lumps we’ve had for the past few years.

Wickham and Benteke need to leave.

Palacebear 03-11-2018 12:25 AM

I honestly think we need to ship out our 4 strikers and get 4 new ones in, but given that no one will buy them and our recent ability in the transfer market it looks like we are stuck with CB, CW & AS!

Extremely depressing.

Reg_Maudling 04-11-2018 10:10 PM

I wonder if pva might be a lot better as a forward than a left back

jobiinthelastmi 04-11-2018 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reg_Maudling (Post 14494047)
I wonder if pva might be a lot better as a forward than a left back

Nice suggestion...

But this ultimately means we are finished! I can understand chucking Danny Butterfield up there when you are short of players and money... but being in the top league in England....

Blind_Eagle 04-11-2018 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlee11 (Post 14133359)
Brighton (only just promoted) = x5 fit striker, including Murray, Ulloa.

Is that the same Ulloa who actually left Brighton years before they ever kicked a ball in the Premier League?

cpfc4evandeva 04-11-2018 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle (Post 14494081)
Is that the same Ulloa who actually left Brighton years before they ever kicked a ball in the Premier League?

It’s the same Ulloa that returned to Brighton on loan in 2018, making the post you quoted completely correct.

Penstone Eagle 05-11-2018 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pistol Knight (Post 14490548)
Paying over £50m + wages on a CB & a crocked striker has been the downfall, both vanity signings IMO

True enough.

lombardo7 05-11-2018 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Rhino (Post 14490558)
The Americans wanted to go for Benteke, Parish said in an interview it was crazy money.


So itís the Americans fault not Teflon Steve

red&blue_moomin 05-11-2018 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlee11 (Post 14490453)
1. Benteke - injured, woefully out of form for a whole year. A YEAR!!
2. Ayew - not an out and out striker.
3. Sorloth - a kid from Danish league, nowhere near ready
4. Whickam - injured, injured during transfer window, so club should have not relied on him this season
5. Zaha - not a striker

Wilf is a striker in the last two seasons he's basically been the second striker and has got us 8 or 10 goals. He's scored or won most of the goals we have scored this season. He's not a central striker but he's a striker at this point.

Ron Dogers 05-11-2018 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red&blue_moomin (Post 14494411)
Wilf is a striker in the last two seasons he's basically been the second striker and has got us 8 or 10 goals. He's scored or won most of the goals we have scored this season. He's not a central striker but he's a striker at this point.

Agree it's all Wilf's fault, he creates great chances but is just not fast enough to be on the end of his final ball and score from his own crosses.

Sydenham Eagle 05-11-2018 02:41 PM

Probably says all you need to know that we have 2 fit strikers and neither were selected to start the game yesterday

orp pisshead1 05-11-2018 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Dogers (Post 14494753)
Agree it's all Wilf's fault, he creates great chances but is just not fast enough to be on the end of his final ball and score from his own crosses.

:D:p

alanlee11 10-11-2018 05:17 PM

Recruitment shambles.

No Wilf, no Benteke and we don't start our only striker (Sorloth). Roy clearly knows he isn't up to it.

How has Parish gambled again on us not picking up injuries?? We have a track record of injuries at this club. It's happened again and we are f**led. To be playing Ayew up front on his own is pathetic. No winger to replace Wilf. We let Bakery go, but didn't bother to bring anyone in to replace Wilf or Andros. It's such bad planning.

alanlee11 05-08-2019 11:32 AM

back to 2 strikers again and that includes one who has been woeful for 2 years now and another who struggles every season with injuries.

what a mess.

RCUK 05-08-2019 11:35 AM

Thought we had Ayew, Benteke and Wickham.

Or have i missed something???

Reps AJ 05-08-2019 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlee11 (Post 14857819)
back to 2 strikers again and that includes one who has been woeful for 2 years now and another who struggles every season with injuries.

what a mess.

We got rid of the one everyone says wasnt good enough

Reps AJ 05-08-2019 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCUK (Post 14857824)
Thought we had Ayew, Benteke and Wickham.

Or have i missed something???

And Zaha if he's not playing wide

glaziers fan 05-08-2019 12:00 PM

We have 4 fit strikers: Zaha, Benteke, Wickham and Ayew. Plus Schlupp as 5th choice. Striker is not a problem position if Benteke rediscovers form, and apprently he's looking sharp in training. Issue is the midfield. We are still looking for the creativity and destruction of Cabaye and the ball skills of RLC.

We need to hold more possession and win more ball in the midfield.

alanlee11 05-08-2019 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glaziers fan (Post 14857991)
We have 4 fit strikers: Zaha, Benteke, Wickham and Ayew. Plus Schlupp as 5th choice. Striker is not a problem position if Benteke rediscovers form, and apprently he's looking sharp in training. Issue is the midfield. We are still looking for the creativity and destruction of Cabaye and the ball skills of RLC.

We need to hold more possession and win more ball in the midfield.

striker is not a problem?!?!?

It's been a problem for nearly half a decade. Did you attend our terrible home games last season, where we could only score penalties and something like 8 goals from open play.

davematt 05-08-2019 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glaziers fan (Post 14857991)
We have 4 fit strikers: Zaha, Benteke, Wickham and Ayew. Plus Schlupp as 5th choice. Striker is not a problem position if Benteke rediscovers form

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

GB2506 05-08-2019 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glaziers fan (Post 14857991)
We have 4 fit strikers: Zaha, Benteke, Wickham and Ayew. Plus Schlupp as 5th choice. Striker is not a problem position if Benteke rediscovers form, and apprently he's looking sharp in training. Issue is the midfield. We are still looking for the creativity and destruction of Cabaye and the ball skills of RLC.

We need to hold more possession and win more ball in the midfield.

:D:D:D

GreatGonzo 05-08-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by alanlee11 (Post 14857819)
back to 2 strikers again and that includes one who has been woeful for 2 years now and another who struggles every season with injuries.

what a mess.

Benteke, Wickham, Ayew, Zaha

That is definitely more than 2. (Whilst i don't think Ayew is best as a striker it is where Roy has played him. You could even throw Schluup into the mix as he played as the second front man at Bristol didn't he?

So when Roy is looking at his squad i don't think he is seeing 2.

(I still think we will try and sign another striker though)

alanlee11 05-08-2019 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatGonzo (Post 14858669)
Benteke, Wickham, Ayew, Zaha

That is definitely more than 2. (Whilst i don't think Ayew is best as a striker it is where Roy has played him. You could even throw Schluup into the mix as he played as the second front man at Bristol didn't he?

So when Roy is looking at his squad i don't think he is seeing 2.

(I still think we will try and sign another striker though)

Wilf and Ayew are not strikers. They really aren't.

Mr Palace 05-08-2019 04:01 PM

Hang on - everyone says Ayew isn’t a striker, he’s more of a winger. He was dreadful when played up front last season.

Wickham is made of glass and shouldn’t be relied on.

Benteke is a shambles of a striker.

And everyone knows wilf is better on the left in a front three.

Our striker options are scant to say the least.

minch1 05-08-2019 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by glaziers fan (Post 14857991)
We have 4 fit strikers: Zaha, Benteke, Wickham and Ayew. Plus Schlupp as 5th choice. Striker is not a problem position if Benteke rediscovers form, and apprently he's looking sharp in training. Issue is the midfield. We are still looking for the creativity and destruction of Cabaye and the ball skills of RLC.

We need to hold more possession and win more ball in the midfield.

Sorry but we need strikers / players who can put the ball of in the back of the net. Roy was right last season when he said game after game we had no trouble creating chances but we missed so many clear chances it was almost laughable. In fact against Hertha Berlin it looked like the problem has not gone away. Benteke once again standing off side. It beggars belief that with his experience after all the seasons he's played he is still doing it.

alanlee11 05-10-2019 05:29 PM

Do Ayew and Benteke even count anymore?

Started this thread so long ago and the situation hasn't changed over several transfer windows - it's ridiculous how Roy has been left with such pathetically weak striking options - we get the ball into midfield fine, but no one knows what to do after that, because the person up front is not up to the job.

Ayew is poor, Benteke is a shameful excuse for a striker. Wickham is unfit/injured.

Pubface 05-10-2019 05:34 PM

Maupay would’ve been a great signing for us!

dave_who_ru 05-10-2019 06:30 PM

Hang on that useless Ayew scored the winner ;)


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