Dann didn't struggle when he first signed imo.

Look at the boards he got hammered by the armchair experts after his first 2 or 3 games but quickly turned things around because he had undoubted quality. Nowt to say Riedewald cannot do the same after one sub standard performance.

That's true but he had experienced hands like Deleaney he could have used till we got the season underway,but was hell bent on 343 and put the lad in too early and the rabbit was stunned in the headlight and put Hennesey under pressure too knocking his confidence with dodgy back passes.

He's only played one game & you all want rid already :jerkit: :clown:

I think he'll come good. If he gets the chance that is.

How much of his 1st game was down to a possible injury to his groin? And how the hell have we have 3 groins go in 2 weeks?

He needs much more time. His versatility could also be very useful.

I don't think anyone here has said we should get rid if him.

It's very easy to measure players that are comfortable playing at their current level.
Players that attack and successfully pass forwards can play at current level. Sideways and backwards passing indicates they are struggling. Joniesta constantly passesd sideways for us. Worryingly Puncheon keeps passing sideways for us now. We have huge huge problems this season

Along with Speroni, Cabaye, Zaha, Puncheon, Watson, Southgate, Coleman, Townsend, Benteke, etc.

All of the above have been abused for being crap when they arrived (or got promoted into the first team) and did not instantly perform, or had a bad spell. Look at the grief some of our youngsters get. If they aren't Ronaldo in their first match there are already people moaning.

Like wise, with FDB. I don't like the look of the tactics, but this idea that Sam did much better with the same team does not match reality. Sam did better when Sahko played. Without Sahko his record was about .85 points per match: relegation from. It took Sam 30m in transfers plus Sahko, and it was only when the latter played that we started winning consistently. Our last five games after he was injured saw us win 1 and lose 4.

Same with Jairo, if he had been brought in by Sam, I bet there'd be less moaning. But, because of the insane levels of expectation on here, some people seem to think he should perform like Maldini in his heyday. It is ridiculous.

Of course, none of the above means either will come good, but that doesn't make the extreme criticism correct or reasonable.

He has looked awful for a year. He gives his all, but he is past it. And that is with four at the back.

If we go to a back 4, I don't know where it leaves him. We suddenly have 4 left backs competing for one slot - I don't think he would be first choice among the centre backs - but maybe he would.

Anyway, more importantly, isn't this thread in the wrong place? :p

Well I started it because I wondered whether we might cash in before Thursday if the manager goes, so I had a potential transfer in mind. I realise that would have required some mind reading though!

If he was to follow any of our ex-players, I imagine it would be Valerian Ismael.

Let's just hope that whoever is manager in a few games time, Riedewald works out. As a Dutch kid who I'm assuming speaks perfect English, is now living in one of the best cities in the world and with a flight home that is only an hour, I would like to think the club shouldn't have too many issues in settling him in...

:supergrin: Now I've heard it all. If this is a good way to measure players' ability it would indicate most of the world's best teams and players 'can't play at their current level'.

He didn't play in the Asia Cup.

Part of the issue for me, only 2 pre-season games to fit in.

Sums up the w-anchors in our team at the moment.

Everybody needs a chance. He could be our Rio Ferdinand. His main issue was FdB hanging him out to dry vs Huddersfield.

I've got an odd feeling Reidewald will be one of those guys who plays 1 or 2 games then disappears permanently, a la Campana or Mandanda. Just a total misfit, like the guy who signed him, it seems.

If FdB has gone then would make sense to sell if we can , unless he has an engine and can play midfield . Everton were interested could use him in make weight for a forward