Completely. Meyer has shown absolutely nothing to suggest we should build a team around him or alter our formation to facilitate him and his strengths.

This. And to be honest, I haven’t seen Meyer do anything on the pitch in his time here that ever made me say “wow”.

I agree, there's obviously a good PL player in there somewhere. But there doesn't seem to be any desire by him to become that.

He’s not as bad as some make out , but has not put his name on a place in the team. In the last 25 mins when the pace of the game drops he a ok sub , but so was Johnny Williams. He’s also in the duldrums. He might pick up elsewhere or under a new manager , but given his wages he’s likely to leave

Big big disappointment Max will follow his career came here with big expectations.If you look at jairo he's admitted when he first came over he didn't learn the lingo and was obviously not up to the pace now everything is coming good for him.stll think there's a player in Meyer but I summice he will end up at a mid table German team shame as he seems a likeable kid and the younger fans do rate him as they see him as a bit of a baller..but I don't think he will make it in england

Did Jairo say he couldn't speak English when he came?

I'd be shocked if that was the case; almost everyone in Netherlands speaks English, even older people.

imagine he did speak fluent English yes

'even older people' :S:

What’s wrong with his comment?

Errrr... I dont think so :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBZxd9BWzlI

Not bad eh ?

Insultar a las personas mayores

Insulter les personnes âgées

Ältere Menschen beleidigen

Oudere mensen beledigen

Оскорбление пожилых людей

:)

In all seriousness though, is it not just a commonly accepted fact that young people world over are more likely to know English as a second language than old folks due to increased emphasis on teaching it in schools over recent decades, and heightened American cultural imperialism through the advent of the internet, and a number of other areas?

Seemed like an innocent statement to me, with that in mind.

Apologies. I just get tired of stereotyping of older people. Being an older person :p

This is from Wikipedia:

"Because English is so widely spoken, it has often been referred to as a "world language", the lingua franca of the modern era,[21] and while it is not an official language in most countries, it is currently the language most often taught as a foreign language."

My italics. I think what you say is probably true, but another factor is that it is now taught as a second language in countries which used to push English down the list in favour of say Russian - that covers the whole of the former Soviet bloc - as commercially and culturally they used to look eastward and now they look westward much more. "Getting by" in English is quite easy for non-native speakers, even though learning to use it with precision and finesse is comparatively very hard. It is therefore linguistically, as well as culturally and economically, a natural choice for a global lingua franca (interesting to compare with Latin in the Middle Ages, which is a somewhat harder language to learn to a basic level, but was considered a basic component of a classical education even into the late twentieth century. I think its strength was an established and stable grammar, something which English at the time lacked).

Also from Wiki: 93% of the Dutch population of the Netherlands speak English.

Smoke and a pancake

You can always tell when it's a non-match week

People debate the proportion of the Dutch population of the Netherlands who speak English ;)

And a lot older on Saturday :D

At uni education is conducted in Dutch and English

My son did his Erasmus at Rotterdam, he did say the workload was rather light compared to what he's used to in Spain. Though not so the social life.

Although many Dutch people speak fluent English, that stat is nonsense.
It's mostly about education, not age. Location is another factor - smaller towns in eastern Holland are less likely to speak English fluently.
Also remember that Holland has a large recent-immigrant population.

Interesting factoid: Fries language (northern Holland), is in the same "west Germanic" language group as English - some phrases sound very much like English.

Friesland? Aren't they all giants there? Not that the Dutch are small .

Have a great one Saturday. Fijne Verjaardag
:D

Not his fault, but Jairo as we know is crucial to the way we really need to play. How did we get on without him again in the starting lineup, did we manage anything out of the game anyone know?

That’s an odd point you are trying to make. We lost Newcastle when he didn’t start also.

I think it’s fairly obvious the difference is Wilf playing or not.

Wilf is certainly the most obvious difference.

Of course we were level against Newcastle before Jairo came on and then we lost, so not sure that proves anything either because I thought he did well in that appearance.

Anyway, I thought Luka did fairly well today so probably backed up Roy's decision to play him.

What happened to him signing a new contract?