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Hpalace 31-05-2019 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jules (Post 14778070)
I think itís more about anxiety that their lad will be, in their eyes, a wrong-un and bring dishonour to the family. These Muslims canít all be closet cases. They donít want the idea put in the kidís head. Possibly even an OCD thing, where thereís this concept referred to as thought action fusion - basically, thinking of something makes it likely to happen.

Itís not Muslims. Itís people (see Northern Ireland). People believe that their child could turn gay because they are taught about it. Itís ******* weird and surely only the seriously repressed actually worry that if their son learns that some men like anal sex that their son will go ďoh, I never thought about that. If no one hadnít mentioned it I would never have found Ďlukeí attractive and wouldnít have wanted to put my willy in him.Ē

Why do people keep bringing Muslims into it when an area of the uk displays quite openly that they donít want Ďnormalityí due to Christian views?

Les Butler 31-05-2019 11:26 PM

Lets be honest here if it's Muslims, Christians whatever religion they all have a screwed up view of actual reality especially when it comes to sexuality also with some of their antics hypocritical as well.

Of course they will not want their kids exposed to something that their bible tells them that it's wrong...Quelle surprise !

Personally I have no problems with kids learning the normality of sexuality if its Man or woman, two women or man and man we need to stop homophobia at an early age.

You don't need to go into the nuts and bolts of it all at an early age that comes along with sex education but you can depict the reality that it is normal so the kids can be comfortable with it and no big deal.

bubbs11 01-06-2019 02:35 AM

The problem is that most devout religious folk think it’s okay to indoctrinate their children into their beliefs. I know most parents do that to a point and leaves this view open to accusations of hipocrisy; but there is a big difference in my book between teaching children respect, common decency, the ways of the world, (supporting Palace :) ), to immersing their impressionable brains in archaic and dubious religious scriptures; making them dress in the regalia of the religion, and even more heinous, have parts of their privates lobbed off without their consent in the name of that religion. It’a abuse. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s narcissism and it’s very, very ugly. Couldn’t care less what adults choose to do, believe in or wear; but the minute they think it’s okay to force their children down the same route, then it really gets my hackles up. Can’t stand tyranny in any form.

Unfortunately, children are just a possession to these people and that causes all kinds of psychological issues in a child of which they will have to deal with as an adult.

Golf Boy 01-06-2019 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 14778093)
The problem is that most devout religious folk think itís okay to indoctrinate their children into their beliefs.

You could completely destroy many religions in one generation if indoctrination of children was ended. Hardly a great advert for them.

hong_kong_hg 01-06-2019 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Skintagain (Post 14777936)
Feck off AJ, the bible is a book of stories the Koran is a book of instructions, they are not equivalent.

Ignorant racist.

hong_kong_hg 01-06-2019 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 14778060)
Heaven forbid Carey, why would I or anybody else on here choose to state an alternate opinion and incur the wrath of your PC lynchmob? Surely best to avoid comment and allow you lot to chat amongst yorselves about how disgraceful everybody else is

Best you stick to breitbart and infowars where you'll feel right at home.

adrenalin john 01-06-2019 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hpalace (Post 14778066)
People that think someone turns gay, bi, trans because they are taught about it are ******* weird. Usually there is a closet that needs to be opened.

It is odd that despite fundamentalists teaching that only sex in marriage between a man and a woman is acceptable, it doesn't seem to work.

What are they afraid of?

And if their God is all powerful, what's with the insecurity?

adrenalin john 01-06-2019 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by itSracistkvntagain (Post 14777936)
Feck off AJ, the bible is a book of stories the Koran is a book of instructions, they are not equivalent.

Fair point. The Ten Commandments. Banging story that one, what a yarn, had me gripped from the first tight through, particularly liked the twist at the end, didn't see it coming at all.

Off to read the highway code next, meant to be even better than the Da Vinci code.

Skintagain 01-06-2019 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hong_kong_hg (Post 14778099)
Ignorant racist.

Are you having trouble expressing yourself. If you have something to say do so. If you feel you can challenge that statement do so.
Insults on an anonymous internet board mean nothing.

Terrace Bickle 01-06-2019 06:51 AM

I think telling my children God doesn't exist is probably one of the most useful things I've done as a parent.

Skintagain 01-06-2019 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Max_Power (Post 14777972)
Assuming this is serious you better get on the blower to all the synagogues ‘cos rabbis have literally been using the first five books of the Old Testament to instruct for the best part of 4000 years. Evangelical Christians as well while you’re at it, as they place a lot of importance on the rules listed in Leviticus.

Persist in prejudice if you must, but don’t try and pretend it’s based on any logic whatsoever.

Oh, and it’s Qu’ran. We stopped Anglicising the Arabic in the eighties.

Qu’ran? is that Arabic? they look strangely like English Alphabet characters to me.

Is there no end to the bizarre affectations that are dreamt up by the left.

The fact remains that they are not directly comparable.

PauLo 01-06-2019 07:14 AM

I mean, it's all fictitious. But I always come back to this research whenever choose to take the bibles side over the Qu'ran...

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a6863381.html

But bigotry is bigotry no matter the race or religion.

Jules 01-06-2019 07:51 AM

LGBT Protests outside primary schools
 
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Originally Posted by adrenalin john (Post 14778109)
It is odd that despite fundamentalists teaching that only sex in marriage between a man and a woman is acceptable, it doesn't seem to work.

What are they afraid of?

And if their God is all powerful, what's with the insecurity?

Donít understand what you think their all powerful God will do for them, if that God hates gay people.

And what are they afraid of? Losing control of the situation, and ideas being introduced that either cause, influence or facilitate their child being or becoming gay. And if that happens, in descending order:

Looking like they havenít brought their child up properly
Said child going to hell
The child being nothing like them and introducing alien and unpalatable people and practices into their lives
The child being at risk of appearing in the Guardianís Blind Dates feature on a regular basis.
The child being less likely to form a committed monogamous relationship
The child being more likely to have poor mental health

Those last two fears may be grounded in truth, ironically enough because of the attitudes of the parents and others like them. Education is the only answer, but donít expect those who currently hold power over these kids to give in without some kind of fight.

in-exile 01-06-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xmasape (Post 14771571)
Anybody that isn't alright with lesbian porn should be deported.

Shocking stuff!


Adlerhorst 01-06-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PauLo (Post 14778136)
I mean, it's all fictitious. But I always come back to this research whenever choose to take the bibles side over the Qu'ran...

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a6863381.html

But bigotry is bigotry no matter the race or religion.

i like how the New Testament is up there in terms of death and destruction, Iím guessing that's pretty much down to the book of revelation.

Not sure anyone apart from nutters takes revelation all that seriously. it is not even divine liturgy for a chunk of the Christian church.

weltklasse 01-06-2019 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TopKnot (Post 14777867)
As a parent of a 4 year old boy, I disagree entirely with everything in this post. I will do and am doing everything I can to normalise non-heterosexual relationships and non-binary genders for him. That doesnít involve teaching him about sodomy and cunilingus, it involves explaining to him that sometimes boys can love other boys and girls can love other girls, and some boys/girls prefer to look like girls/boys, and thereís nothing wrong with that, and everyone is different.

I hope he will grow up with an open and accepting mind and not feel fear and prejudice because the realities were shielded from him. And if he does turn out to be gay then he will know that he doesnít need to feel like like a freak and he will get nothing but love and support from me.

Educating kids about the realities of life is just as important, if not more important, than teaching them to add numbers together.

nicely posted.

weltklasse 01-06-2019 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Skintagain (Post 14777936)
Feck off AJ, the bible is a book of stories the Koran is a book of instructions, they are not equivalent.

More total idiocy from our resident idiot. top work.

ExiledStirling 01-06-2019 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 14778060)
Heaven forbid Carey, why would I or anybody else on here choose to state an alternate opinion and incur the wrath of your PC lynchmob? Surely best to avoid comment and allow you lot to chat amongst yorselves about how disgraceful everybody else is

A fair answer except for;

1) You are not some timid soul who does not want confrontation.

2) Alternate opinion? Alternate to what?

3) My name is not Carey ffs :veryangry

hong_kong_hg 01-06-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Skintagain (Post 14778124)
Are you having trouble expressing yourself. If you have something to say do so. If you feel you can challenge that statement do so.
Insults on an anonymous internet board mean nothing.

You post ignorant racist rubbish, expect to get pulled up on it. Why do you lot get all snowflakey when you get called exactly what you are? At least have the balls to own the correct labels for your views.

At least Matov admitted he was a racist and used islamophobia as a proxy to express his racism.

Les Butler 01-06-2019 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by hong_kong_hg (Post 14778323)
You post ignorant racist rubbish, expect to get pulled up on it. Why do you lot get all snowflakey when you get called exactly what you are? At least have the balls to own the correct labels for your views.

At least Matov admitted he was a racist and used islamophobia as a proxy to express his racism.

In some countries Homosexuals are thrown of roofs and murdered,I understand disliking Israel for the deplorable treatment of Palestinians but it does not make me a anti semite.

I think the same can go for not liking a religion whatever the religion for certain stuff.

There are lots of labels being thrown around on here, instantly if you mention immigration or Muslims critically its a no go and becomes very nasty(I was going to use the word explosive but thought better..).

Religion should not dictate what normality is in schools in this day and age ,all people should be equal and treated the same if its race colour or sexuality.


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