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CP-RJW 24-05-2019 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 14771657)
I'm not into lesbian porn or religion particularly ... Are they actually harming anybody ? ... I certainly believe in peaceful protest for anybody on anything they want..

This post is ridiculously dense, and maybe a troll, but I’ll bite.

They’re harming the very existence of LGBTQ people. Kids who know they’re gay, trans or whatever are very likely to feel suicidal, as their existence is barely even acknowledged at school, so naturally they feel like freaks. The non LGBTQ kids are also more likely to bully them, and any straight kids who might happen to have two dads or two mums. That’s how all these things work, you have to teach children respect and tolerance of different types of people early.

CP-RJW 24-05-2019 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TopKnot (Post 14771656)
Oh do fvck off. I was just waiting for the first dick like you to come along and pin it on the Muslims.

His type are all over social media talking about this. Couldn’t give a shit about LGBTQ people, just don’t like Muslims.

in-exile 24-05-2019 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CP-RJW (Post 14771662)
This post is ridiculously dense, and maybe a troll, but Iíll bite.

Theyíre harming the very existence of LGBT people. Kids who know theyíre gay, trans or whatever are very likely to feel suicidal, as their existence is barely even acknowledged at school, so naturally they feel like freaks. The non LGBT kids are also more likely to bully them, and any straight kids who might happen to have two dads or two mums. Thatís how all these things work, you have to teach children respect and tolerance of different types of people early.

So these parents .... How do you police their views and inference at home on their kids that they then bring to school anyway?
Sounds like 1984 .... I have no dog in this race but how do you wish to control them?

CP-RJW 24-05-2019 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 14771664)
So these parents .... How do you police their views and inference at home on their kids that they then bring to school anyway?
Sounds like 1984 .... I have no dog in this race but how do you wish to control them?

It’s not a ‘view’ FFS.

It’s a fact that LGBTQ people exist. Heterosexual people and relationships exist, those are taught in school. Religious people exist, those are taught in school. LGBTQ people exist, so need to be taught in school.

Golf Boy 24-05-2019 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TopKnot (Post 14771656)
Oh do fvck off. I was just waiting for the first dick like you to come along and pin it on the Muslims.

If it was true, should it be ignored?

in-exile 24-05-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CP-RJW (Post 14771669)
Itís not a Ďviewí FFS.

Itís a fact that LGBTQ people exist. Heterosexual people and relationships exist, those are taught in school. Religious people exist, those are taught in school. LGBTQ people exist, so need to be taught in school.

Well these parents don't share your VIEW.
I can be tolerance of their views and yours ..... Sorry about that.

CP-RJW 24-05-2019 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 14771674)
Well these parents don't share your VIEW.
I can be tolerance of their views and yours ..... Sorry about that.

Again: It’s not a view, it’s fact.

They’re homophobes because their ancient, archaic book tells them gay people are bad. You can’t tolerate intolerance.

in-exile 24-05-2019 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CP-RJW (Post 14771677)
Again: It’s not a view, it’s fact.

They’re homophobes because their ancient, archaic book tells them gay people are bad. You can’t tolerate intolerance.

Makes you islamophobic ... ... Suck it up
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ded-from-abuse

sheepy 24-05-2019 08:37 PM

As a country millions of people are able to protest against the governmentís proposals about Brexit, or going to war with Iraq, against tuition fees or climate change.

The proposals youíd need to pass into law to prevent these sorts of protests could easily be used to curtail any protest a government donít like. Thatís why we have to tolerate these twats.

Itís shit but you have to let it go in order to live in a properly functioning society.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 24-05-2019 08:37 PM

I have often found it interesting (and worrying) how our society often tolerates intolerance more if it is based on (or claimed to based upon) 'religious beliefs'.

There shouldn't be any question of doubt on this issue. The schools should be left to deliver the lessons on diversity and people shouldn't be allowed to protest and harass outside a school like that.

CP-RJW 24-05-2019 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 14771680)
Makes you islamophobic ... ... Suck it up
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ded-from-abuse

Moron.

https://islamophobia-definition.com/

‘Being critical of Islam or any religion does not automatically make you an Islamophobe. You are only an Islamophobe if you use the language of racism targeting expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness to express your views.’

You missed out Christianity by the way, which I was also referring to.

in-exile 24-05-2019 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CP-RJW (Post 14771689)
Moron.

https://islamophobia-definition.com/

‘Being critical of Islam or any religion does not automatically make you an Islamophobe. You are only an Islamophobe if you use the language of racism targeting expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness to express your views.’

You're a nasty Racist! .... Joking aside I will tolerate their views and your views .... Carry on!

CP-RJW 24-05-2019 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 14771690)
You're a nasty Racist! .... Joking aside I will tolerate their views and views .... Carry on!

Stick to trolling on the Hennessey threads pal, it suits you better.

Yoda 24-05-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 14771657)
I'm not into lesbian porn or religion particularly ... Are they actually harming anybody ? ... I certainly believe in peaceful protest for anybody on anything they want..

Maybe you havenít read enough about whatís been happening?

Itís not entirely peaceful protest for large numbers to be outside the school shouting and making loud announcements...theyíre intimidating the school community.

Horrible for young children to walk through and, as others said above, it must be v stressful for the teachers and headmistress.

I read the MP is asking for something like an exclusion zone to be created around the school, as the intimidation has become that bad.

in-exile 24-05-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CP-RJW (Post 14771692)
Stick to trolling on the Hennessey threads pal, it suits you better.

Whatever... You cannot change them to your happy world ... They don't agree with your view and what you going to do about it ..?
Ban protests ..... Go and live in China!

in-exile 24-05-2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 14771695)
Maybe you haven’t read enough about what’s been happening?

It’s not entirely peaceful protest for large numbers to be outside the school shouting and making loud announcements...they’re intimidating the school community.

Horrible for young children to walk through and, as others said above, it must be v stressful for the teachers and headmistress.

I read the MP is asking for something like an exclusion zone to be created around the school, as the intimidation has become that bad.

That's correct .. it's not local and I don't have any interest other than ... **** your mind Police. We have Public Order and harassment laws ..

CP-RJW 24-05-2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 14771696)
Whatever... You cannot change them to your happy world ... They don't agree with your view and what you going to do about it ..?
Ban protests ..... Go and live in China!

Don’t believe I said anything about banning protests? Nice strawman. All I said is that it needs to be taught in schools.

TennesseeKing 24-05-2019 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 14771657)
I'm not into lesbian porn or religion particularly ... Are they actually harming anybody ? ... I certainly believe in peaceful protest for anybody on anything they want..

I mean, other than viewing people with a different sexuality or those who have transitioned from one gender to another as being disgusting, wrong and in the eyes of some less than human. They haven't done anything I guess.

I'm a huge advocate of free speech and allowing people to hold views that differ from my own even if they are different from mine and even offend me. This isn't the same as having private views though. You could argue that what they're doing is akin to inciting hatred upon people different to them which is so far beyond just allowing people to have their own beliefs. This is openly pushing their beliefs upon other people, and is just wrong.

in-exile 24-05-2019 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CP-RJW (Post 14771702)
Don’t believe I said anything about banning protests? Nice strawman. All I said is that it needs to be taught in schools.

I would agree ...but they don't ... How you going to stop their view?
Some here have talked of Police wading in.

TennesseeKing 24-05-2019 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 14771706)
I would agree ...but they don't ... How you going to stop their view?

Nothing wrong with them having their view. There will always be those with views not accepted by society in the main, difference is when they incite hatred upon a group for whatever reason.


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