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TWELLSEagle 02-08-2017 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Vicar (Post 13758040)
Derek Jeffries, innit.

Good knowledge, thanks, that's a new palace player I'm now aware of.

bubbs11 02-08-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TWELLSEagle (Post 13758038)
I wonder if riedeweld would fit the sweeper role quite well. Have Palace ever played a sweeper?

Yes, under Coppell around 92/93. Eddie McGoldrick played there.

TWELLSEagle 02-08-2017 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 13758064)
Yes, under Coppell around 92/93. Eddie McGoldrick played there.

So he did! Well remembered

CPFC since 1989 02-08-2017 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 13758064)
Yes, under Coppell around 92/93. Eddie McGoldrick played there.

I thought Eddie was our pacy winger?

Mr Palace 02-08-2017 08:48 PM

Eddie was brilliant as a sweeper. Didn't play many games there from memory but he was a class act.

Jim Cannon 02-08-2017 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Palace (Post 13758150)
Eddie was brilliant as a sweeper. Didn't play many games there from memory but he was a class act.

And if you offer him 10 grand he will bang in 10 goals in no time as well. Wish that worked these days

exiledeagle 02-08-2017 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TWELLSEagle (Post 13758051)
Good knowledge, thanks, that's a new palace player I'm now aware of.

Fairly sure Stewart Jump also played there , if Jeffries wasn't available .

exiledeagle 02-08-2017 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Palace (Post 13758150)
Eddie was brilliant as a sweeper. Didn't play many games there from memory but he was a class act.

Great player winger or sweeper .

Mr Palace 02-08-2017 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Cannon (Post 13758152)
And if you offer him 10 grand he will bang in 10 goals in no time as well. Wish that worked these days

:D

Martin H 02-08-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TWELLSEagle (Post 13758038)
I wonder if riedeweld would fit the sweeper role quite well. Have Palace ever played a sweeper?

Eddie McGoldrick in one or two matches I seem to remember which was a bit of a surprise at the time.

(edit - sorry - I had the page open so long that I hadn't see the other posts - honest :)

Big Gav 02-08-2017 11:19 PM

Liverpool away if I remember right. He had a great game

Slimbloke'H' 02-08-2017 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Vicar (Post 13758040)
Derek Jeffries, innit.

Jeffries was a pretty good defender but Mel Blyth (who was a God) was our first sweeper - and IMHO was only kept out of the England team back then by Bobby Moore, the finest sweeper of all time.

The Vicar 02-08-2017 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by exiledeagle (Post 13758163)
Fairly sure Stewart Jump also played there , if Jeffries wasn't available .

Good memory, that is correct as I recall

orp pisshead1 02-08-2017 11:59 PM

Was Shaw used as a sweeper( I thought he was) or DM? Brilliant in whatever position It was , that said my memory is not the same so he probably was deployed purely for man marking.

Vince Hilaire's Afro 03-08-2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Gav (Post 13758312)
Liverpool away if I remember right. He had a great game

Including an own goal if my memory serves!

Merrow eagle 03-08-2017 12:08 AM

Fairly sure Gerry Francis also played a few games as sweepr

Martin H 03-08-2017 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by orp pisshead1 (Post 13758327)
Was Shaw used as a sweeper( I thought he was) or DM? Brilliant in whatever position It was , that said my memory is not the same so he probably was deployed purely for man marking.

He was often given the man marking job from what I remember. Whether that was in defence on a forward or in midfield. He was really good at just nullifying their star player.

Re some of the other posts, I think some must be using the term sweeper differently to how I would. Not saying it's wrong, buts it's just different to how I would see it. I.e. Bobby Moore wasn't a true sweeper to me. He was often labelled as a sweeper though in the press. When he was playing teams typically had a big CH who tended to be clumsy but great in the air and then a shorter, more nimble player alongside them. Bobby was the best of these in his day and truly World Class due to his composure and reading of the game. No pace, not great in the air but you never noticed somehow. It's true that the little guy of the partnership would be expected to 'sweep up' alongside and around the CH but not in the sense that a Sweeper would in say Italy where they would sit slightly deeper behind defenders. Beckenbauer played DM, the second central defender role or as a genuine sweeper at different times in his career. The most famous was an Italian dude and I can't remember his flaming name but he, like Beckenbauer could control the game from there.

Aha - remembered - Baresi? Or something like that.

palace_burger 03-08-2017 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Palace (Post 13758150)
Eddie was brilliant as a sweeper. Didn't play many games there from memory but he was a class act.

Eddie was great as a sweeper as much as he was a loss on the wing... when a goal bonus was in play

Hayden Mullins and Andy Roberts played the odd game as sweeper, both very classy and made it look like they had all the time in the world on the ball

bubbs11 03-08-2017 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by orp pisshead1 (Post 13758327)
Was Shaw used as a sweeper( I thought he was) or DM? Brilliant in whatever position It was , that said my memory is not the same so he probably was deployed purely for man marking.

That's jogged my memory. Don't think Shaw was ever used as a sweeper but I'm almost certain Coppell had Thorn as a sort of sweeper in THAT 1990 semi against a Liverpool.

We had 5 across the back with Thorn dropping deep.

---------------------Thorn------------------
Pembo-----Shaw-----------O'Reilly-----Salako

Eagle Kneevil 03-08-2017 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by palace_burger (Post 13758353)
Eddie was great as a sweeper as much as he was a loss on the wing... when a goal bonus was in play

Hayden Mullins and Andy Roberts played the odd game as sweeper, both very classy and made it look like they had all the time in the world on the ball

Weird fact: Andy Roberts is younger than Kevin Philips. Yet it seems that they played in different eras.


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