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Eagle's Nest 09-11-2020 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flappy Chicken (Post 15496886)
Now Jairo has redeemed himself, will Roy give Meyer a chance?

I was just looking at our list of highest paid players. Of our top 4 most lucrative contracts, only one of them is getting in the team.

Meyer is singled out, but Benteke and Sakho have also got a lot to prove.

I'm hoping all three look at Jairo for inspiration. Personally I think Meyer lacks the physicality to get in a Hodgson 11.

El Aguila 09-11-2020 03:12 PM

Meyer has had plenty of chances. It's a salutary lesson to compare the impact that Eze has had with Meyer's inability to affect games.

Work Shy Eagle 09-11-2020 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15497218)
Meyer has had plenty of chances. It's a salutary lesson to compare the impact that Eze has had with Meyer's inability to affect games.

That pretty much covers it.

dilem 09-11-2020 04:10 PM

Blows my mind that people still think meyer is good

Happy Arthur 09-11-2020 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dilem (Post 15497273)
Blows my mind that people still think meyer is good

Good player, just not a premier league player.

Jim Cannon 09-11-2020 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dilem (Post 15497273)
Blows my mind that people still think meyer is good

Not so much whether he is any good - he was good in Germany, but hasn't performed here. It is more that people still actually think he somehow deserves a chance in the team when he just hasn't delivered, and we have done just fine without him. Who are we kicking out to accomadate him anyway?

cpfc4evandeva 09-11-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 15497218)
Meyer has had plenty of chances. It's a salutary lesson to compare the impact that Eze has had with Meyer's inability to affect games.

Like Camarassa, the longer that Meyer is away from the first team, the better he gets.

Also see: Wickham, Connor.

cpfc4evandeva 09-11-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Arthur (Post 15497286)
Good player, just not a premier league player.

Surely a good player can play in any league?! :confused: I get that it can take time to settle in to a new country, and leagues across Europe tend to have differences in how fast their games are played, the physicality, etc. But a good player will make themselves fit into that.

Excowboy 09-11-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva (Post 15497310)
Surely a good player can play in any league?! :confused: I get that it can take time to settle in to a new country, and leagues across Europe tend to have differences in how fast their games are played, the physicality, etc. But a good player will make themselves fit into that.


It's a team game, and whether a player is 'good' is entirely dependent on how they fit into the team.

A world-class player can fit in anywhere, but there are a lot of top-tier players that work very well in one team and much less well in another, let alone leagues.

casinocolin 09-11-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Arthur (Post 15497286)
Good player, just not a premier league player.

A bit like Sorloth then.

GanbareWashi 09-11-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BARNSTONEWORTH (Post 15497155)
I just always remember him playing with his socks rolled down and no pads - must have had shins of iron!

Yep, that's my memory of Smurph

Garfy 09-11-2020 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Bin (Post 15496941)
I still think of him as the best passer we've ever had...I remember one game where he kept pointing to his teammates where they should run and he just put in on a plate to them, be it on the ground or in the air, sometimes just chipped over an opponent. he had a rather languid style though, so a completely anti-Roy type of player!

Still my favourite player all these years on.

Blackfen Eagle 09-11-2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Bin (Post 15496941)
I still think of him as the best passer we've ever had...I remember one game where he kept pointing to his teammates where they should run and he just put in on a plate to them, be it on the ground or in the air, sometimes just chipped over an opponent. he had a rather languid style though, so a completely anti-Roy type of player!

Too true

Blackfen Eagle 09-11-2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan's Jacket (Post 15496920)
Jerry Murphy. A wand of a left foot

My favorite ever

CP-RJW 09-11-2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by casinocolin (Post 15497319)
A bit like Sorloth then.

Sorloth is yet to prove himself in any top league. Meyer has.

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 09-11-2020 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva (Post 15497307)
Like Camarassa, the longer that Meyer is away from the first team, the better he gets.

Also see: Wickham, Connor.

I don't think it's simple with Wickham. He actually was good for a while.

Plus, I think was more the case of the longer Benteke was in the first team, the better Wickham got.

Timbo 09-11-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva (Post 15497310)
Surely a good player can play in any league?! :confused: I get that it can take time to settle in to a new country, and leagues across Europe tend to have differences in how fast their games are played, the physicality, etc. But a good player will make themselves fit into that.

No, only the best can make it in the Premier League, the Meyer experience is evidence to support that contention

I was unconvinced by Jairo at first, but through his effort, with help from the club, he is proving that he is worthy and continues to get better

Johnsonpen 09-11-2020 06:35 PM

When Jairo came the thing that excited me was his passing rate at Ajax - he is doing 90%+ for us now and God knows when someone else did that. Him, Wilf and Eze could make an exciting partnership. Thing that lets us down in attack at the moment is the loss of the ball cheaply by Andros and Jordan. Need a five year contract

casinocolin 09-11-2020 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CP-RJW (Post 15497399)
Sorloth is yet to prove himself in any top league. Meyer has.

Turkey? :D

So you cannot be a good player unless you have proved yourself in a top league?

Latvian Eagle 09-11-2020 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 15497440)
No, only the best can make it in the Premier League, the Meyer experience is evidence to support that contention

I was unconvinced by Jairo at first, but through his effort, with help from the club, he is proving that he is worthy and continues to get better

Pretty much how I feel about Jairo. I don't think he helped himself for a long old time by basically not giving a shit. I still have visions of him being the worst player on the pitch in a Palace U23 v AFC Wimbledon U23 friendly last Summer. I guess something must have finally clicked with him that he better get his arse in gear, and thankfully he has made the necessary changes and that has been recognised by Roy and the coaches and rewarded with a chance which he has actually taken.


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