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switchboard 09-12-2019 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostrils (Post 15009621)
Good piece in The Athletic.

If he can find that extra bit of intensity required for the PL he could be a fantastic player for us, I'd guess he's technically one of our best players.

Let's hope he grabs his opportunity by the scruff of the neck. Good luck Jairo!

It's a shame we got knocked out the cup so early as it would be good to see him in central midfield as he seems like with a bit of work could be a replacement for Cabaye.

ianace 09-12-2019 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostrils (Post 15009621)
Good piece in The Athletic.

If he can find that extra bit of intensity required for the PL he could be a fantastic player for us, I'd guess he's technically one of our best players.

Let's hope he grabs his opportunity by the scruff of the neck. Good luck Jairo!

Can we print the article out on here please?

Nostrils 09-12-2019 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by switchboard (Post 15009630)
It's a shame we got knocked out the cup so early as it would be good to see him in central midfield as he seems like with a bit of work could be a replacement for Cabaye.

Looks like he's gunna get his chance now, though he'll struggle to get in front of all the others in the centre imo. I think he's got great vision and has the potential to pick out that pass to set Wilf free while he's on the left.

Who knows though, after being on the sidelines and barely on the bench, at 23, he may now have that hunger to push him on. It's all in his hands I guess.

jcreedy 09-12-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SOUTHGATE EAGLE (Post 15007971)
We can't play through sides with passing.


https://youtu.be/9_tDu3r8bCA?t=5
;)


Maidstoned Eagle 09-12-2019 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ianace (Post 15009632)
Can we print the article out on here please?

As its behind a paywall, we would have to rely on peoples generosity.

GreatGonzo 09-12-2019 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chateauferret (Post 15008192)
He did a couple but he also f***ed one up soon after coming on. Bit rusty I guess.

He played 1 header, softly into midfield for Wilf to pick it up and the commentators said it was a poor header, it was cushioned to a place a teammate was going to pick it up!

Nostrils 09-12-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ianace (Post 15009632)
Can we print the article out on here please?

I'm on my mobile atm, but will have a look when I get a chance if someone else doesn't do it before me.

Nostrils 09-12-2019 09:17 AM

Not sure if it's allowed, but I guess the mods will remove pretty sharpish if it's naughty (I should probably read the stickies)

Jairo Riedewald had been waiting for any kind of chance. A player who debuted for Ajax at 17, subsequently making his name in a side graced by Matthijs de Ligt and Frenkie de Jong, has been lost to development team football back at Beckenham for too long. He has had time to stew over those aborted moves, to Spain or Germany, or even south Wales, with the passage into the first team apparently too cluttered to be negotiated at his current employers. Now, though, his patience is about to be rewarded.
Against Brighton & Hove Albion next Monday, a game that means more than any other to these two clubs, Crystal Palace expect to lean on their forgotten man.
The last week has seen Patrick van Aanholt and Jeffrey Schlupp limp off the field with hamstring injuries, joining Joel Ward on the sidelines for the foreseeable future, to expose all those concerns from the summer about a lack of proper cover at full-back.
Riedewald was signed by Frank de Boer for £7.9 million in 2017 to play at centre-half on the left of a back three. His tidiest outings in the period since have actually come in defensive midfield, where he impressed with his anticipation and ability to read the game. But next week, with 45 minutes at Watford on Saturday having served as a taster, the likelihood is he will revert to left-back as he prepares to start a Premier League game for the first time since February 2018.
The 23-year-old, hair slightly longer and beard more opulent these days as if betraying his time marooned on the fringes, looked vaguely wide-eyed and uncomfortable back in the post-match media glare at Vicarage Road. He spoke diplomatically about giving his all and trying to impress in training, to catch the eye of the management staff, and of being “in a good place” and “very happy at this club”.
“I’m very versatile,” he offered. “Now, in December with some injuries to the squad and lots of games, hopefully there are more minutes for me.”
Things have not always been this positive. There have been plenty of occasions over the last two-and-a-half years when Riedewald, his career stalled, must have cursed his decision to move to England, or the ill luck which accompanied him to the Premier League. De Boer, who had handed him that Ajax debut in 2013, lasted only four games in charge. Injuries dropped the young Dutchman out of the reckoning while Roy Hodgson attempt to instigate a revival.
By the time he was fit to feature again, others had staked their claim ahead of him. This is a rugged team who have come to rely upon physically imposing and experienced centre-halves, or aggressive and industrious midfielders. Riedewald was the odd man out. A bit-part player capable of shackling Kevin de Bruyne impressively on his day, as he proved on New Year’s Eve in 2017, but an unlikely fit in a Hodgson selection when everyone else was available.
The manager had volunteered praise for the Holland international while speaking at a Crystal Palace Supporters’ Trust event late last month, veering off-piste in a discussion about his scant use of Max Meyer and Victor Camarasa to remind his audience that there is another gifted option on Palace’s books who has been neglected.
“Jairo’s a very, very talented player,” he said. “A player who could do well in many places. But the way he plays, the style he plays, unfortunately doesn’t enable him to get in with us in front of the likes of James McArthur, James McCarthy, Cheikh Kouyate or Luka Milivojevic — the people we rely upon to win us games.”
There have been opportunities to move on. He was not keen on leaving for Championship football with Swansea City as part of the deal that saw Jordan Ayew transfer permanently to Palace last summer, and unconvinced he would be granted the football he craves at Celta Vigo.
The newly promoted Bundesliga side, Paderborn, had hoped to secure him ahead of the closure of the transfer window and the player even travelled to Germany to undergo a medical and discuss personal terms. So impressed had they been with his quality on the ball that Paderborn intended to use him in a more advanced midfield role, even as a No 10, as they confronted their return to the top flight.
Yet Palace, conscious of Riedewald’s potential, were reluctant to sanction a permanent switch and, as their own efforts to add full-back recruits floundered, duly pulled the plug. They had seen Nathaniel Clyne, a player entering the final 12 months of his contract at Liverpool, damage knee ligaments playing against Borussia Dortmund in a pre-season friendly and been led up the garden path by Montpellier’s Ruben Aguilar and his representative before the player eventually joined Monaco. A loan move for Marcos Rojo at Manchester United was briefly discussed and dismissed. Riedewald, it turned out, might be needed after all.
The Dutchman was apparently left in tears as he was summoned back to Beckenham to resume training with Palace, the prospect of a fresh start dashed and, instead, an under-23s fixture against Leeds United to contemplate in the days ahead. Paderborn’s head of sport, Martin Przondziono, went public to suggest their interest could be revived mid-season – “Jairo is, and remains, an interesting player” – but his team are currently bottom of the Bundesliga and went into the weekend with just five points from 13 games. That move may seem rather less appealing now than it did back in August.
In truth, Riedewald has impressed in the period since. Not in terms of his first-team outings which, prior to Watford, had been limited to a stint at left-back as Palace slipped meekly out of the Carabao Cup on penalties to Colchester United of League Two in August. But certainly in terms of his attitude.
“Of course he’s been frustrated, but he’s been a superb professional,” Hodgson tells*The Athletic. “He comes in all the time, he gets on with his work, never ever complains. He doesn’t sulk or show he’s particularly unhappy. But of course he’s frustrated, as anyone would be.
“He was brought to the club by a previous manager and cost a fair amount of money by our standards. Of course, when you then don’t get a chance to play in the position you thought you were coming to play in, because the manager changes and (the new man) decides he wants other people, it must be frustrating. But I must take my hat off to him. He’s not allowed that to show. He’s a popular player with the others simply because he gets on with his work in a very quiet and meaningful way and today, when we had to ask him to step up to the plate, he did just that.”
There were some awkward moments against Watford when his positioning was exposed, particularly when the home side countered late in the game. Ismaila Sarr had subjected Schlupp to a torrid time in that first period with buccaneering runs down the Palace left.
Riedewald, rusty as he saw his first Premier League game-time since April 2018, found Sarr as much of a handful. But there was also class in possession, some useful forays forward – he was ahead of Wilfried Zaha on that wing at times – and actually offered much needed reassurance.
“He did exceptionally well,” adds Hodgson. “He was put to a fairly stern test. Sarr is remarkably fast – everyone knows that. He’s got Wilf Zaha-type pace. We did our best to double up and help Jairo, but there are always going to be moments when you can’t do that. But he’s an intelligent player. He reads the game very well. He uses the qualities that he has to good effect and, on several occasions today, I thought his composure and calmness on the ball were good. There’s no doubt he’ll relish the opportunity if he continues in that position.”
It is hard to see Palace having any other option.
Schlupp’s injury will be assessed in the days ahead, but the early prognosis is far from promising. Van Aanholt will not be ready for Monday night. The 20-year-old left-back, Tyrick Mitchell, is highly rated and impressed in pre-season, but he has only just returned from injury and has just 20 minutes of under-23s football to his name. He is not in a position to be thrown in against Brighton.
Instead, Riedewald’s time may have come. The opportunity is finally there to make his mark.
(Photo: Alex Pantling/Getty Images)

P.S. I'd recommend everyone to get The Athletic subscription, it works out less than getting a Sunday paper, but with none of the nonsense.

Archiebald Leitch 09-12-2019 09:20 AM

Thanks for copying that.

The author must have had dictionary pie for breakfast the day that was written.

CpfcLoz 09-12-2019 09:26 AM

fair play to him, he played well considering. hes defo ahead of the majority of of team technically. crazy how 3 of our most technically gifted players ( meyer, jairo and camarasa cant get in the team/squad.

Martin H 09-12-2019 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostrils (Post 15009677)
Not sure if it's allowed, but I guess the mods will remove pretty sharpish if it's naughty (I should probably read the stickies)

Jairo Riedewald had been waiting for any kind of chance. A player who debuted for .......

As you say the Athletic is a good read and TBH good value. I am not a journalist nor have any links to Athletic or any media TBH but I suspect its best to link this stuff and/or maybe use a short extract to show why it's worth reading. I am not a bleeding heart about this but they rely on this stuff to make a living.

Before any one reminds me I realise that I am no doubt being hypocritical :) (SD etc. etc.) but hey at least I am trying :)

aj4england 09-12-2019 10:27 AM

Came on - had a good game. Not so good defensively when isolated 1 on 1, then again neither is Schlupp or PVA.

Happy Arthur 09-12-2019 10:33 AM

Being rusty as hell and having Sarr running at you isn't a great situation. Delighted we held on.

Nostrils 09-12-2019 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin H (Post 15009721)
As you say the Athletic is a good read and TBH good value. I am not a journalist nor have any links to Athletic or any media TBH but I suspect its best to link this stuff and/or maybe use a short extract to show why it's worth reading. I am not a bleeding heart about this but they rely on this stuff to make a living.

Before any one reminds me I realise that I am no doubt being hypocritical :) (SD etc. etc.) but hey at least I am trying :)

Yes, I put the recommendation on at the end to help clear my conscience (although I meant every word). Also figured that it may actually be a good advertisement, a good piece on a subject that may convince other fans to subscribe.

glaziers fan 09-12-2019 11:35 AM

Athletic is always a cracking read.

Good luck to Jairo Riedewald. Streets ahead technically of our current first choice midfielders. Big game for him to come in against Brighton! (Hope Mitchell gets a chance in the FA Cup.)

CP-RJW 09-12-2019 11:37 AM

I feel for Jairo. The only reason he came to Palace was sacked in two months. I’m impressed by his attitude if years of playing with the u23s later he’s still up for proving himself and fighting for a place.

CP-RJW 09-12-2019 11:43 AM

Re the Athletic, there’s a 66% discount for a yearly subscription at the moment. £1.69 a month, £20.40 for the year. Absolute no brainer. https://theathletic.co.uk/checkout/?...SAAEgJ5t_D_BwE

eastend eagle 09-12-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Archiebald Leitch (Post 15009681)
Thanks for copying that.

The author must have had dictionary pie for breakfast the day that was written.

The copy is fine, it just reads more densely when not laid out properly.

Martin H 09-12-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostrils (Post 15009749)
Yes, I put the recommendation on at the end to help clear my conscience (although I meant every word). Also figured that it may actually be a good advertisement, a good piece on a subject that may convince other fans to subscribe.

Yep - as I say, I am a hypocrite I know on this.

MFBias 09-12-2019 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin H (Post 15009721)
As you say the Athletic is a good read and TBH good value. I am not a journalist nor have any links to Athletic or any media TBH but I suspect its best to link this stuff and/or maybe use a short extract to show why it's worth reading. I am not a bleeding heart about this but they rely on this stuff to make a living.

Before any one reminds me I realise that I am no doubt being hypocritical :) (SD etc. etc.) but hey at least I am trying :)

On the other hand it may encourage people to sign up. I wouldnt panic.


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