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chateauferret 11-01-2020 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 15055702)
And yet the really weird part in all of it was that he was signed to play Centre Back. :wallbash:

But the manager responsible for that was the most monumental twat we've ever had.

Latvian Eagle 11-01-2020 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stevek (Post 15055710)
To be fair, that would have been a part of a three, and I think he could play that role (not that we will play that formation).

I think it was pretty obvious after one game he was going to struggle to play in that system in the PL, he's just not got the height or physicality. The biggest issue is that div FdB completely wrecked his confidence by ripping into him at training after that Huddersfield game, and is probably a major reason why he has struggled.

The guy was basically his mentor and signed him for reasonably big money, only to bin him and slate him in front of the squad after one game. :eek: At least he has shown he is capable recently and given the whole Left Back thing a good go.

kayjay 11-01-2020 08:52 PM

Really pleased for Jairo

norwoodeagle 11-01-2020 09:07 PM

Roy, Ray and the coaching staff have seen that Jairo had the capability to play Left Back and have clearly worked with him, as demonstrated by the improving performances over recent weeks.
I think we might be seeing our future left back, playing with PVA taking a more advanced position.

Thefunkymonk 11-01-2020 09:10 PM

Would love to see him regular in midfield. His passing is superior to Mist in the squad and looks a yard sharper

GreatGonzo 11-01-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by norwoodeagle (Post 15055743)
Roy, Ray and the coaching staff have seen that Jairo had the capability to play Left Back and have clearly worked with him, as demonstrated by the improving performances over recent weeks.
I think we might be seeing our future left back, playing with PVA taking a more advanced position.

Not like he has played in the Europa League final at Left Back or anything is it?
:rolleyes:

All but forced into playing Riedewald we discover that there is a player in there, much like he was all but forced to put AWB in a couple of years ago because of injuries too. I worry players get frozen out by Roy and Wickham is another on that list, not to mention the 24 year old current top scorer in Turkey!

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 11-01-2020 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 15055715)
I think it was pretty obvious after one game he was going to struggle to play in that system in the PL, he's just not got the height or physicality. The biggest issue is that div FdB completely wrecked his confidence by ripping into him at training after that Huddersfield game, and is probably a major reason why he has struggled.

The guy was basically his mentor and signed him for reasonably big money, only to bin him and slate him in front of the squad after one game. :eek: At least he has shown he is capable recently and given the whole Left Back thing a good go.

How do you know about that? Where did it come from?

He was dire in that game but it certainly doesn't sound helpful from the manager who should have taken a lot of responsibility for a shocking selection and making lots of changes from the side he had been playing throughout pre-season.

Palacebear 11-01-2020 09:33 PM

I am so pleased for him. He has got better with each game, please keep up the great work Jairo.

We need to keep players like Meyer & Jairo in our ageing squad.

Martin H 11-01-2020 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by norwoodeagle (Post 15055743)
Roy, Ray and the coaching staff have seen that Jairo had the capability to play Left Back and have clearly worked with him, as demonstrated by the improving performances over recent weeks.
I think we might be seeing our future left back, playing with PVA taking a more advanced position.

I really hope not. A wingback has everything in front of him and makes the runs, a winger has to receive the ball and turn. Very different and tbf if we was a winger he would already be playing there. The game these days uses the full backs to act as wingers anyway. So keep PVA where he is. Jairo can be great diver for LB and hopefully earn his spot in the middle. Letís see the best players bubble to the top rather than decide in advance.

NorthPalace23 11-01-2020 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SOUTHGATE EAGLE (Post 15055573)
The fact Jairo is young is crucial. We really need to take that into consideration when judging whether he should be kept on.

I didn't realise he only turned 23 in September!

Still young enough to come good.

I remember him doing a great job at home to Man City two years ago. He has the potential and I'm glad he is showing signs of fulfilling it!

Chris Finch 11-01-2020 09:47 PM

why is everyone saying he should play in midfield when heís been outstanding at LB?

Eddie McGoldrick's tash 11-01-2020 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Finch (Post 15055822)
why is everyone saying he should play in midfield when heís been outstanding at LB?

Do actually think he's been outstanding there? I think he has generally done well but I certainly wouldn't say he has been outstanding. From what we have seen so far I would still have PVA back in there as soon as he is available.

Martin H 11-01-2020 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Finch (Post 15055822)
why is everyone saying he should play in midfield when heís been outstanding at LB?

Probably because thatís his preferred position and where he has been heading.
I think he has been great at LB for us in this spell and has to be a potential deputy and maybe he will make it his own position but it makes sense for him to get a chance in midfield where he and previous coaches have seen as his best thatís all. But that has to be on merit. Tbh I suspect our current coaches think itís his best too, but he simply hasnít shown this much in competitive matches and tbf there is a lot of competition and so no surprise he hasnít been selected. The awesome news is that Ďsomethingí has clicked with him and his intensity, impact and belief looks very different. Hopefully he takes that into training and bosses his way into reckoning. PVA will return to the LB slot.

Itís good news all round.

Chris Finch 11-01-2020 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash (Post 15055836)
Do actually think he's been outstanding there? I think he has generally done well but I certainly wouldn't say he has been outstanding. From what we have seen so far I would still have PVA back in there as soon as he is available.

Today - yes, previous games mainly above average. Nothing to suggest he would be any good in central midfield though.

Stellavista 11-01-2020 10:18 PM

Has he lost weight?

1905 11-01-2020 10:48 PM

Loved this today....

https://twitter.com/CPFC/status/1216121355424292864

Martin H 11-01-2020 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stellavista (Post 15055890)
Has he lost weight?

LOL the old ones are the best.....

red&blue_moomin 12-01-2020 02:04 AM

Interesting that Roy has said that he thinks Jairo has found his position. He said after the match that he suggested to Jairo that he should consider LB as a way to get into the team, but he needed convincing to do it.

Wonder if we will redirect funds from a specialist LB into RB or wide forward and just wait for PVA to come back. If Jairo comes through Man City, the Blades and Southampton alright then there is a strong case that he is our No 2 LB and in some situations the first choice.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 12-01-2020 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by red&blue_moomin (Post 15056235)
Interesting that Roy has said that he thinks Jairo has found his position. He said after the match that he suggested to Jairo that he should consider LB as a way to get into the team, but he needed convincing to do it.

Wonder if we will redirect funds from a specialist LB into RB or wide forward and just wait for PVA to come back. If Jairo comes through Man City, the Blades and Southampton alright then there is a strong case that he is our No 2 LB and in some situations the first choice.

Just thinking something similar. With his lack of matches in the last couple of seasons could be as good as getting a new player. I also feel this about Connor Wickham if he could stay fit.

ee-ay-ee-ay-ee-ay-o 12-01-2020 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 1905 (Post 15055993)

That is superb.


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