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adrenalin john 21-05-2019 03:57 PM

Tory leadership election
 
With the schedule set for the Maybot to finally be dismantled for spare parts and recycling, and the runners & riders already flashing their colours in the Parade ring before cantering down to the starting line of the election contest to be the next leader of the Tory Party - and with it the nation, the need for a new thread is probably already upon us.

Johnson, B, is the clear ante post favourite but reports are they will be a record field, with Raab, Gove, McVeigh, Rudd, Truss, Hancock, Hunt and Rory Stewart all likely to stand, possibly plus a few others.

May the stabbing from the shits commence, and blood spill around the ring.

Walter Wort 21-05-2019 04:19 PM

How Spaffer can be 5/4 with some bookies is beyond comprehension.

nicky 21-05-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter Wort (Post 14768449)
How Spaffer can be 5/4 with some bookies is beyond comprehension.

Simple. All the candidates are ******* rubbish, and no sensible person would pick any of them, so the most famous is the most popular among the insensible rump left in the hollowed out remains of the tory party.

adrenalin john 21-05-2019 04:50 PM

The MPs pick two candidates the members then select the winner.

BJ is favourite because MPs see him as a proven electoral 'winner' with star dust, and he is the overwhelming favourite with the Madam Blu Rinse Troop and Colonel Bluster Brigade.

However the early favourite has form for falling in the Tory National...

Johnson's weakness is loads of MPs think (quite rightly) that he is such a shit that even they the epitome of moral vacuums can't bring themselves to vote for him.

My own view is the long list of candidates will help him by diffusing votes, that and the fact that they are all so forgettable.

Jonboy 21-05-2019 04:52 PM

Blow Job please. As someone who doesn't have to live with the consequences it will be great fun.

Adlerhorst 21-05-2019 04:53 PM

A lot of the MPs also know that Johnson is no longer the Tory who can reach parts of the electorate that others cannot. His position on Brexit saw to that.

smileysmith 21-05-2019 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonboy (Post 14768477)
Blow Job please. As someone who doesn't have to live with the consequences it will be great fun.

Cheers. :(

in-exile 21-05-2019 04:58 PM

May must be up there for worst ever PM.

Jonboy 21-05-2019 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by smileysmith (Post 14768481)
Cheers. :(

You are welcome. :) The next alternative seems to be Gove, and I suspect he might turn out to be competent. That last thing the country needs is a competent tory.

Maz 21-05-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Adlerhorst (Post 14768480)
A lot of the MPs also know that Johnson is no longer the Tory who can reach parts of the electorate that others cannot. His position on Brexit saw to that.

And his marital indiscretions are sure to cause problems amongst the more righteous on the right.

Nth Kent Eagle 21-05-2019 06:24 PM

Johnson would probably do anything to make sure the Tories win the next election. So he would in my opinion end up delivering a very watered down Brexit, followed by big spending and probably be quite socially liberal. The right might flirt with the Brexit Party but when it comes to the general election the centre right will vote to keep out Corbs.

Stellavista 21-05-2019 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 14768516)
And his marital indiscretions are sure to cause problems amongst the more righteous on the right.

The righteous right. Now there's a thought. He's pissed off too many in his own parliamentary party to make it to the final two, no matter what the loon grassroots want. My guess is that it will be a toss up between Rabb and Javid. And the WI contingent won't vote for Javid in numbers.

Heb 7:4 21-05-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 14768484)
May must be up there for worst ever PM.

In fairness she is only responsible for failing to deliver unicorns. She isn't the one who thought it would be a good idea to ask the British people if they wanted them.

Heb 7:4 21-05-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 14768516)
And his marital indiscretions are sure to cause problems amongst the more righteous on the right.

As with Trump, that part of the right only pretends to be righteous when it suits them.

mushroom 21-05-2019 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Heb 7:4 (Post 14768612)
As with Trump, that part of the right only pretends to be righteous when it suits them.


Dude.... glass houses.

adrenalin john 21-05-2019 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nth Kent Eagle (Post 14768574)
Johnson would probably do anything to make sure the Tories win the next election. So he would in my opinion end up delivering a very watered down Brexit, followed by big spending and probably be quite socially liberal. The right might flirt with the Brexit Party but when it comes to the general election the centre right will vote to keep out Corbs.

Boris doesn't believe in Brexit, never has done.

Boris believes in Boris, he didn't see Leave actually winning, he just thought it would a great way of shoring up the member base when it came to the battle to succeed Cameron in 2020.

As it was his long game, suddenly went short but Gove stabbed him deep and hard and the PM position passed from Johnson probable to Theresa May.

Now, after the long March, the local showers in April, May is going in June and the process duly opens again.

The trouble is the numbers in the house are the numbers in the house whoever is calling him or herself PM.

My guess is Boris - if he becomes PM - will want to stay PM. He knows a hard Brexit will be a catastrophe and so he would soon be ousted and he knows Mays deal won't fly in the HOC, so he will go for a referendum and let people let him, and hopefully themselves (although that is far from certain), off the hook.

Heb 7:4 21-05-2019 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mushroom (Post 14768664)
Dude.... glass houses.

I'm not sure which particular glass house you think I live in, but I can assure you I'm happy to chuck stones at it too.

OldPeanutSeller 21-05-2019 09:19 PM

Stone me, imagine having to choose between Corbyn and Johnson at a general election. Personally, I would like to see Truss as leader, as the country should be led by someone with the same name as a surgical appliance.

mushroom 21-05-2019 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Heb 7:4 (Post 14768689)
I'm not sure which particular glass house you think I live in, but I can assure you I'm happy to chuck stones at it too.


Whatís your view on people that moralise on message boards but have no problem seeking employment in countries with horrific human rights record?

adrenalin john 22-05-2019 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mushroom (Post 14768778)
Whatís your view on people that moralise on message boards but have no problem seeking employment in countries with horrific human rights record?

It's fine as long as you stand up to racism, sexism, homophobia and prejudice every time you encounter it in said countries with horrific human rights records.


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