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It's true about GSTQ - it's not actually the English anthem at all, and we are appropriating it from the Scots, Welsh and Irish to whom it also belongs. The England team should choose a different song, like everyone else has.
I would choose Yellow Submarine. English, inclusive and fun.
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Old 11-07-2021, 12:07 PM
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"Jerusalem" and "I Vow to Thee, my Country" get used.
Billy Bragg has been banging on about this for years. Great if it happens, I suppose.
"Jerusalem" has a cracking tune but the words are a bit odd. I know there are various interpretations of the "And did those feet..." bit of "Milton", but none seem to make that much sense to me.

Incidentally, Billy Bragg seems to spend a lot of time these days on Twitter defending the rights of men to use ladies' changing rooms &c.

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Marshall Chess, son of Chess Recordsí founder, who managed The Stones, claimed to have come up with the idea of the tongue.
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"Jerusalem" and "I Vow to Thee, my Country" get used.
Billy Bragg has been banging on about this for years. Great if it happens, I suppose.
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I certainly don't immediately associate the lips and tongue logo with flag colours. I know there are different versions but it's usually bright red.
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If we were going to be pedantic, the original was just red and white, then a black outline was added to it.
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"Jerusalem" has a cracking tune but the words are a bit odd. I know there are various interpretations of the "And did those feet..." bit of "Milton", but none seem to make that much sense to me.

Incidentally, Billy Bragg seems to spend a lot of time these days on Twitter defending the rights of men to use ladies' changing rooms &c.

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Personally find Jerusalem boring.
Is this because the workers in the dark satanic mills were not out on strike?
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Off to work now, then to a mates for the game, have my three lions shirt on, three lions crest on the back of my van and a St George's flag for the window but I will not outdo all the many Italian flags on houses, cars etc

I have seen but one other car with an England flag such is French Canada

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Is this because the workers in the dark satanic mills were not out on strike?
Read the link I put up. Itís not about mills or the industrial Revolution.

I didnít know that either until I just read the link but disappointed in you.
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Old 11-07-2021, 12:18 PM
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I would choose Yellow Submarine. English, inclusive and fun.
And we could have used "Glad to be Gay" for that game that coincided with Pride Week.
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Old 11-07-2021, 12:20 PM
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Off to work now, then to a mates for the game, have my three lions shirt on, three lions crest on the back of my van and a St George's flag for the window but I will not outdo all the many Italian flags on houses, cars etc

I have seen but one other car with an England flag such is French Canada

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And we could have used "Glad to be Gay" for that game that coincided with Pride Week.
Which version?
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That's interesting. Someone once told me it was designed by Andy Warhol around the time of the Sticky Fingers album cover so I always assumed that was the case. Having just had a look, he had nothing to do with the logo.
Warhol designed the Sticky Fingers cover.
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If we were going to be pedantic, the original was just red and white, then a black outline was added to it.
Yeah, I know but I meant the tongue innit.
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I only know one version, so you'll have to er "fill me in" on what you mean there.
Definitely the Fall's version of "Jerusalem", though.
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Definitely the Fall's version of "Jerusalem", though.
Yeah, yeah - we all know you prefer ELP's version.

edit - I have just listened to it and it is truly terrible
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Old 11-07-2021, 12:31 PM
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Read the link I put up. Itís not about mills or the industrial Revolution.

I didnít know that either until I just read the link but disappointed in you.
That's just one person's interpretation though. As I said, people will read into it what they want.
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But have you noticed, every f in politician jumps on the bandwagon whereas English team does well.

Didn't Tony Blair preside over the piss up in No 10 when England won the Ashes in 2005? Didn't he sign off on the MBEs for the team?
I get that. The difference is that it isn't Blair, Brown, Cameron, or May. It is him and his incredibly scummy mates.
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I get that. The difference is that it isn't Blair, Brown, Cameron, or May. It is him and his incredibly scummy mates.
Yep. 13 of the squad qualify to play for other countries. Seeing the home secretary supporting this team is nauseating.
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Yep. 13 of the squad qualify to play for other countries. Seeing the home secretary supporting this team is nauseating.
Really? That's an amazing statistic, haven't seen that before. Lots of Irish Grandmas?
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