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Boo hoo! Their fans booed both players before either had done anything and then want to cry offense when they get something given back to them
Also boo hoo when they are banned for a match.
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i would be upset if any England players showed more passion for another country while wearing an England shirt.
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i would be upset if any England players showed more passion for another country while wearing an England shirt.
Unless it was Sterling smoking a reefer which gets him banned
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Reports of a two match ban for the idiots hahaha, that is serving their adopted country well
I think you are getting a little bit ahead of yourself with your hysterical overreaction.
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Old 24-06-2018, 07:12 PM
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i would be upset if any England players showed more passion for another country while wearing an England shirt.
well they both scored goals for the swiss if thats not showing passion i'm not sure what is.
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Weren't the goal celebrations a message that they wanted to play for the Eagles?
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Also boo hoo when they are banned for a match.
It's only the Serbs crying and whining
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I have quite a few Serbian friends and even the most reasonable go into completely OTT nationalistic mode at any mention of Kosovo....but there are two sides to it...

'Kosovo Assembly members held a minute’s silence on January 31 to commemorate the death of Kosovo’s only Hague war crimes convict, Haradin Bala.

Bala, a former Kosovo Liberation Army guerrilla, died at the age of 60 after being granted early release in 2013.

The minute’s silence was proposed by MP Milaim Zeka from the governing coalition party NISMA (Initiative for Kosovo).

“All people in the world honour their values, their people, their heroes. Last night, a great man passed away, a man that has made a great contribution to this country, this nation, and thanks to him, we are sitting now in the parliament of Kosovo. I am speaking about Haradin Bala,” Zeka said.

...In November 2005, the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia found Haradin Bala guilty of torture, cruel treatment and murder, and sentenced him to 13 years of imprisonment.'


We are talking current rivalries here way beyond anything in our part of Europe....nothing to date in football terms topping the drone carrying the Albanian double eagle remotely piloted into the stadium in Belgrade causing the Serbia v Albania qualifier to be abandoned.

Many left Kosovo,with Switzerland being a popular destination.....you see them driving down through Montenegro in the summer to visit friends and family...and ,like the large numbers of other migrants from former Yugoslavia ,feel a sense of very strong connection with the 'homeland'.

Any suggestion of Shaqiri being signed by us I'd say would be madness given the zero potential for bonding between him and our captain.
13 years for torturing and murdering!
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Old 25-06-2018, 03:38 AM
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It's only the Serbs crying and whining
Of course. It was a dig at Serbia. The players can’t seriously deny they weren’t trying to provoke, or that it was spontaneous. If FIFA say this is O.K. It opens the door for all kinds of political statements.
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Of course. It was a dig at Serbia. The players can’t seriously deny they weren’t trying to provoke, or that it was spontaneous. If FIFA say this is O.K. It opens the door for all kinds of political statements.
It was also an expression of their own heritage. Frankly they have had to put up with comments from SVP MP's such as this

Swiss People’s Party right-wing parliamentarian Natalie Rickli; “I cannot honestly rejoice since the two goals were not scored for Switzerland but for Kosovo”

now compare and contrast


Xhaka’s uncle; “My nephews grew up in Switzerland with respect for the country and its culture. But they were educated in Albania with the love of family and Kosovo. Frankly, I would be incapable to say which is Swiss or Albanian for them. They are a perfect mix.”
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it was clearly pre-planned too
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Absolutely nailed it!
No swiss i have spoken to found it disrespectful, stupid maybe but not disrespectful.
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Fine only. Hopp Schweiz!
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Fifa bottled it. Now everyone knows it`s only a fine for political statements.
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it was clearly pre-planned too
We could have done with a few players with the wherewithal to pre-plan scoring a few goals last season. Sign 'em up!
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Fifa bottled it. Now everyone knows it`s only a fine for political statements.
You act surprised. FIFA is a shit organisation. However i must laugh at your surprise.
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Fifa bottled it. Now everyone knows it`s only a fine for political statements.
They didn't bottle it, they took a cold hard look at how much it would cost them ratings rise if those two weren't playing and decided rightly it wasn't good for their bottom line. Fifa don't give a rats ass about what the right thing to do is, all they care about is money
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Tough one, they were provoked but I do not believe in sportspeople pushing political messages during the game.
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"It will be argued that the behaviour illustrates the Albanian nationalist-supported notion of a Greater Albania, which makes territorial claims on parts of Kosovo, Serbia, Macedonia and Greece."

Serbia have done a number on Switzerland if this gets 'proven'.

It was 'up yours' after scoring to a load of guys who had booed them earlier.
Is the double headed eagle gesture specially specific to albanian ultra nationalists?
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