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Old 27-06-2018, 12:54 PM
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So far this has been a great Tournament. Alot of exciting games and some surprise results.

Only downsides are

The ridiculous amount of play acting/injury feigning which is frankly just an embarrassment to the game.

The harrassment of referees. Eg last night Argentina when the pen was awarded. I just wish one referee would get his yellow card out and book any player who gets in his face. There could have been 4 or 5 Argentinian players booked including Mascherano (who then have had to walk as he was booked for the foul). They should also be booked for doing the TV sign to the ref.

I can only assume FIFA does not care about all this otherwise they would have issued an edict to the refs before the Tournament. This is sad for the game and just encourages kids to follow suit.
The harassment of the refs is particular pointless when you can clearly see the ref telling the players that the VAR officials are looking at something and he's listening to what they've got to say.
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Old 27-06-2018, 12:57 PM
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The harassment of the refs is particular pointless when you can clearly see the ref telling the players that the VAR officials are looking at something and he's listening to what they've got to say.
Agree and harassment is one thing there seems to be a lot of at this WC.
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Agree and harassment is one thing there seems to be a lot of at this WC.
And my point is it could be stopped SO easily if the refs just stood their ground, yellow card in hand, showing it to anyone who approached them in dissent. If the refs had the support of FIFA on this, it would happen. Its an embarrassment to the game.
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Old 27-06-2018, 01:12 PM
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And my point is it could be stopped SO easily if the refs just stood their ground, yellow card in hand, showing it to anyone who approached them in dissent. If the refs had the support of FIFA on this, it would happen. Its an embarrassment to the game.
Yep.
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I think 32 teams is the optimum number, there are already a handful of poor teams in it, we don't need any more. And this is a World Cup without Holland, Italy, Czech Republic, Ghana, Cameroon etc
Not disagreeing but doesn't your last sentence contradict the statement that 32 is enough good teams?

The South American teams have been strong, Chile is another good team missing.
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Old 27-06-2018, 01:42 PM
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It has been good, and the limitations of VAR are maybe obscuring the advantages. Less clear cynicism, especially in the box. There have been a lot of exciting games played at pace. I think this will continue. Good players are shining, and poor ones being exposed.

By the way, Russia is bloody hot in the summer - just as hot as Japan. I was at the England - Brazil game where we completely wilted and I understand why. They had ten men on the pitch and still out-passed us. I think Southgate has appreciated this and selected a young side because of it. Let's watch some of the other teams wilt in the coming weeks. Any European side playing a late afternoon match against a south American or African side will struggle from now on.
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Old 27-06-2018, 02:11 PM
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And my point is it could be stopped SO easily if the refs just stood their ground, yellow card in hand, showing it to anyone who approached them in dissent. If the refs had the support of FIFA on this, it would happen. Its an embarrassment to the game.
Weird that this isn’t done. All it would take it is one or two games where the ref books anyone who steps over the line, and you would see a positive change.
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Fantastic.

Still likely means that if we win the group we play the Brazilians. Hopefully Serbia can do something about that tonight
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And my point is it could be stopped SO easily if the refs just stood their ground, yellow card in hand, showing it to anyone who approached them in dissent. If the refs had the support of FIFA on this, it would happen. Its an embarrassment to the game.
It is but I think it will eventually happen and probably to us.
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Brilliant. The Cup that keeps giving. Who's next. Brazil?

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Can we get David Platt out of retirement for the Belgium game ?
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Let’s hope Brazil go out later tonight as well!
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It would appear that the threat of 20 or so cage fighters in matching t-shirts wearing bumbags & terrible shorts has put the engerland fans who act like complete dicks off from going. If only Europe had sussed that out ages ago, think of the garden furniture that could have been saved over the years. Here's hoping Russia qualify for every major tournament from now on to keep the bottle throwing, local insulting, engerland bully boy mob away.
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Fantastic.

Still likely means that if we win the group we play the Brazilians. Hopefully Serbia can do something about that tonight
No we wont, we will play 2nd place in group H
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Can we get David Platt out of retirement for the Belgium game ?
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It's brilliant. The VAR system is fantastic. Adds so much drama.
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And my point is it could be stopped SO easily if the refs just stood their ground, yellow card in hand, showing it to anyone who approached them in dissent. If the refs had the support of FIFA on this, it would happen. Its an embarrassment to the game.
I disagree.
It was cathartic, watching the Germans do their collective crust.
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