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Old 05-10-2019, 11:41 PM
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? Max is clearly a more than decent player. We know Camarasa is also. Guiata, Cahill, Kouyate were brought in by DF for an outlay of £30M across three windows. That's actually pretty good. Jordan cost us £2.5M which even though we know he's limited he makes a huge difference at the head of the team in terms of pressing and work rate unlike most other strikers we had since Muzza. Like a slightly better Cam Jam.

Moaning about Roy aside he's refusing to change a team that has been fourth in the form guide across 2019. He's probably correct in that for the time being. At least until the form collapses.
I agree with this. Except Guaita, Cahill and Kouyate cost us far less than that in transfer fees. Two out of contract players and under 10m for Kouyate.

As you rightly say you can add 2.5m for Ayew, 2-4m for McCarthy (depending on which reports you believe) and then Meyer another out of contract player - that's about £15m in transfer fees for 6 Premier League first team players. I think that's incredibly good value.

Wages for the likes of Meyer and Cahill will be high but that is certainly mitigated by the low transfer fees. Maybe we should be giving Dougie a lot of credit for the deals he has done. I have been very critical of some of the deals we haven't done - most recently and obviously failing to sign a back up right back. But what we have done looks very good considering the budget to me.
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:53 PM
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He maybe a good manager, but letís himself down in his conduct. Only England manager to be sacked after one game, after caught in a sting by a newspaper, walked out on Palace with cock and ball story about retiring, only to rock up at Everton a few months later. The man is a moral vacuum.
Tell us more.

I so hope thatís autocorrect.
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:55 PM
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Needs to earn his place. It’s that simple.
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Old 19-10-2019, 07:43 PM
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Is he injured? Otherwise concerning heís behind Reidewald in the pecking order.
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Old 19-10-2019, 07:46 PM
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Feel sorry for the guy. His creativity clearly isn’t wanted sadly. Weird signing.
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Old 19-10-2019, 07:49 PM
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Feel sorry for the guy. His creativity clearly isnít wanted sadly. Weird signing.
The player hasn't helped himself from what i've been told.
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The player hasn't helped himself from what i've been told.
How come?

Must be hard when the manager has no intention of ever playing you and water carriers always get selected over you.
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Old 19-10-2019, 07:56 PM
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Old 19-10-2019, 08:12 PM
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Who is this player you talk of??
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Old 19-10-2019, 08:20 PM
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Sadly?? Itís a prerequisite for most (good) managers - a basic of the game.

Being Ďcreativeí on the ball might win you a game on a good day. Not being good on the ball will lose you the game - guaranteed. Especially in the modern premier league. Doesnít matter who you are.

Do you think managers like Klopp and Guardiola donít rate being good off the ball? If youíre not good at that aspect, youíd get dropped from their team also. It just so happens they the billions to buy players who are good at both.

Roy likes good players who can also defend. Thatís the same as most successful managers and how it should be.
No you need a mix , and certainly a maverick on the bench . Good managers use players to their strenghts
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How come?

Must be hard when the manager has no intention of ever playing you and water carriers always get selected over you.
You strike me as someone who is well acquainted with the water carrying job, so I am obliged to agree with your opinion that it is hard
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No you need a mix , and certainly a maverick on the bench . Good managers use players to their strenghts
Are you suggesting Hodgson is not a good manager?
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You strike me as someone who is well acquainted with the water carrying job, so I am obliged to agree with your opinion that it is hard
Weird comment.
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I just think it’s a shame that a guy of his obvious class can’t even get on our bench. Especially as we don’t have any creative midfielders like him.
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I just think itís a shame that a guy of his obvious class canít even get on our bench. Especially as we donít have any creative midfielders like him.
Agree.
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I just think itís a shame that a guy of his obvious class canít even get on our bench. Especially as we donít have any creative midfielders like him.
Now ask yourself what the reasons could be for said player not making the team.... itís not always the managers fault.
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Now ask yourself what the reasons could be for said player not making the team.... itís not always the managers fault.
Maybe not but itís a pattern with players like him which Hodgson obviously doesnít want. Surprised we signed him.
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Maybe not but itís a pattern with players like him which Hodgson obviously doesnít want. Surprised we signed him.
Weíre Crystal Palace, every player needs to be willing to do the unexciting stuff as well as the good stuff. If youíre not willing to do that, the good bit becomes a luxury we canít afford.
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Maybe not but itís a pattern with players like him which Hodgson obviously doesnít want. Surprised we signed him.
Ask yourself who signed him, then ask yourself why isnít he playing?

Another waste of £ every month on wages
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Weíre Crystal Palace, every player needs to be willing to do the unexciting stuff as well as the good stuff. If youíre not willing to do that, the good bit becomes a luxury we canít afford.
Look how hard Man City work off the ball - £100 million pound players have to do it so we must fully expect ours to.
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