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Old 11-10-2019, 03:15 PM
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If we really want them to send her back to face questioning the US could reasonably say that we should return the favour and send Prince Andrew in the opposite direction. That's not going to happen is it?
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Old 11-10-2019, 03:20 PM
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Old 11-10-2019, 03:38 PM
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Fleeing the scene of a crime is her downfall. If she had remained and cooperated with authorities, I suspect at worse the woman is guilty of manslaughter with mitigating circumstances. It would seem very unlikely that she would have found herself imprisoned or even fined if she was to go through the courts in The UK. She has now put herself in a situation where she could find herself at the mercy of the courts.

The fact she appears unwilling to return to The UK to face such a trail is either suspicious or an act of a coward. Hopefully after some legal advice she will do the right thing and return to face the consequences.
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If we really want them to send her back to face questioning the US could reasonably say that we should return the favour and send Prince Andrew in the opposite direction. That's not going to happen is it?
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What they want happens. End of.
If they want us to extradite Prince Andrew you reckon it'll happen? Don't hold your breathe.
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If we really want them to send her back to face questioning the US could reasonably say that we should return the favour and send Prince Andrew in the opposite direction.
Seems like a very acceptable trade off, where does one sign up?
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Diplomatic immunity is almost a red herring in this case. There is absolutely no reason why the woman couldnt do the right thing and co-operate with the police and at the very least if she is immune to prosecution, speak to the parents.

Theres no excuse, running away and hiding and leaving the parents in pain with no explanation of what happened or any sort of apology or justice or closure. Imagine your son's potential killer living in comfort in a foreign country, with no possibility of justice, as authorities just shrug their shoulders and say theres nothing they can do. Absolute craven cowardice.
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Fleeing the scene of a crime is her downfall. If she had remained and cooperated with authorities, I suspect at worse the woman is guilty of manslaughter with mitigating circumstances. It would seem very unlikely that she would have found herself imprisoned or even fined if she was to go through the courts in The UK. She has now put herself in a situation where she could find herself at the mercy of the courts.
After reading a bit more about this, I understand she did not flee the scene of the accident but was interviewed by the police at the time. She was advised not to leave the country by a senior police official, which she has now obviously done.

I have no concept of how the parents of the boy killed must be feeling, but something inside of me is asking what are they trying to gain by pursuing this, talking to ministers in The UK and going to The US to talk to officials there?

I appreciate we are all different and I personally have never lost a loved one because of a horrible accident (which this was), but this pursuit seems counter to bring closure. Is the woman apologizing face to face going to satisfy the family? I fear they are looking for more... whatever that is I don't know.
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Is there a limit to diplomatic immunity? For instance if a person from Andorra was a diplomat and he/she shot Trump would he/she be able to claim it or would that be a crime too far?
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After reading a bit more about this, I understand she did not flee the scene of the accident but was interviewed by the police at the time. She was advised not to leave the country by a senior police official, which she has now obviously done.

I have no concept of how the parents of the boy killed must be feeling, but something inside of me is asking what are they trying to gain by pursuing this, talking to ministers in The UK and going to The US to talk to officials there?

I appreciate we are all different and I personally have never lost a loved one because of a horrible accident (which this was), but this pursuit seems counter to bring closure. Is the woman apologizing face to face going to satisfy the family? I fear they are looking for more... whatever that is I don't know.
Crikey....a driver canít just say it was an accident and get a free pass from the consequences. The parents need to know what happened.

There has to be an official investigation and then a determination on what occurred. If she drove on the wrong side of the road, for example, she is still guilty of something eg dangerous driving, driving with undue care etc etc.

She has to take responsibility for her actions. The level of punishment will reflect her level of culpability...ranging from a driving ban to jail time I should think.
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After reading a bit more about this, I understand she did not flee the scene of the accident but was interviewed by the police at the time. She was advised not to leave the country by a senior police official, which she has now obviously done.

I have no concept of how the parents of the boy killed must be feeling, but something inside of me is asking what are they trying to gain by pursuing this, talking to ministers in The UK and going to The US to talk to officials there?

I appreciate we are all different and I personally have never lost a loved one because of a horrible accident (which this was), but this pursuit seems counter to bring closure. Is the woman apologizing face to face going to satisfy the family? I fear they are looking for more... whatever that is I don't know.
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Crikey....a driver canít just say it was an accident and get a free pass from the consequences. The parents need to know what happened.

There has to be an official investigation and then a determination on what occurred. If she drove on the wrong side of the road, for example, she is still guilty of something eg dangerous driving, driving with undue care etc etc.

She has to take responsibility for her actions. The level of punishment will reflect her level of culpability...ranging from a driving ban to jail time I should think.
The police have CCTV footage of her turning out of the military base onto the wrong side of the road shortly before the crash. She had her children in the car with her so the whole thing must be destroying her. No excuse for fleeing but she'll be in a very bad place. Hopefully she'll realise she can do some good for the parents AND herself by returning to the UK and facing the family.
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Fleeing the scene of a crime is her downfall. If she had remained and cooperated with authorities, I suspect at worse the woman is guilty of manslaughter with mitigating circumstances. It would seem very unlikely that she would have found herself imprisoned or even fined if she was to go through the courts in The UK. She has now put herself in a situation where she could find herself at the mercy of the courts.

The fact she appears unwilling to return to The UK to face such a trail is either suspicious or an act of a coward. Hopefully after some legal advice she will do the right thing and return to face the consequences.
Spot on I realy feel for the parents the anger they must feel at this time and what ever happens nothing will bring there son back .there just pawns in a game but like above said unless she was on mobile or drunk ect if it went to court it would be very unlikely she would go to prison you see cases now where people attack police and don't even get sent down watch these cop programes on channel 5 at the end of programe when you see what they have done very few actualy go to prison . They seem very determined to get justice maybe there try and go to usa .
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After reading a bit more about this, I understand she did not flee the scene of the accident but was interviewed by the police at the time. She was advised not to leave the country by a senior police official, which she has now obviously done.

I have no concept of how the parents of the boy killed must be feeling, but something inside of me is asking what are they trying to gain by pursuing this, talking to ministers in The UK and going to The US to talk to officials there?

I appreciate we are all different and I personally have never lost a loved one because of a horrible accident (which this was), but this pursuit seems counter to bring closure. Is the woman apologizing face to face going to satisfy the family? I fear they are looking for more... whatever that is I don't know.
You could say that about any murderer.

If you lost a love one this way I imagine you dont just forget about it, you want justice.
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Why should diplomatic immunity exist at all?
Is this meant to be a serious question?
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If she doesnt have diplomatic immunity can't she be persued by an extradition case?

If she does, what powers does Trump even have in this?

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If you lost a love one this way I imagine you dont just forget about it, you want justice.
I certainly wouldn't forget about it, nor implying these parents should (probably badly written post by me earlier today).

I guess the point I'm trying to make is what constitutes justice in this case? Yes there was driving with undue care and attention on the woman's part with horrible consequences. But what if she was a UK resident and no country to run off to, what would the punishment be? Would they face prison time? I doubt it. Would there be a trail... I don't know. Probably at most an inquest where the woman would be required to attend, and that could still happen - she was not arrested or charged at the time of the accident from what I can see.

The woman was wrong to leave the country when advised not to, and this is her downfall. In hindsight maybe they should have held her passport (can they do that to a non-citizen?).
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If we really want them to send her back to face questioning the US could reasonably say that we should return the favour and send Prince Andrew in the opposite direction. That's not going to happen is it?
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