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Old 09-03-2020, 09:40 PM
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I really dont get this period poverty stuff. Its a cause celeb of the last few years what was going on before then. These things cost pennies, 3 or 4 pence a day non branded. Whatever the issue its not cost. Is poverty the issue or negligent parents.

As for tax thats a different issue, essentials generally arent taxed and i would assume most would regard these as essentials. However at 5% it wont make much difference to cost.
People are hard up, poverty is a major issue so this helps ease the situation for many.

Social policy/justice is still of sufficient importance to the Scottish people. It is such a shame that this is not the case in England as then we would have been spared the type of governments we have had for the past 40 years. Governments that have never represented what Scotland have voted for. It is one of the main reasons the Independence movement has become such a force up here.
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Old 09-03-2020, 09:54 PM
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Upto your usual deflection and bollocks.

Something you do on most political threads.

It is pointless engaging with you so I will leave it there.
You can leave it wherever you like. It's a discussion board, you're free to talk about something or not. But my repsonding to your points and disagreeing with your position isn't "deflection" FFS.

If you can't make the case for the SNP, fine. But don't pretend it's because I won't engage with the points.
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Old 10-03-2020, 12:56 AM
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You can leave it wherever you like. It's a discussion board, you're free to talk about something or not. But my repsonding to your points and disagreeing with your position isn't "deflection" FFS.

If you can't make the case for the SNP, fine. But don't pretend it's because I won't engage with the points.
Wow, you can't even let him let it go. Last word overdrive
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Wow, you can't even let him let it go. Last word overdrive
The other day you were criticising me for not engaging with someone. Now you're complaining when I do.

It's a message board AJ. There is no last word. It just continues, interminably, with various people looking for any opening they can to have a pop.

I'd rather shoot the breeze about the topic, but each to their own.

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Old 10-03-2020, 08:21 AM
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Old 23-03-2020, 02:59 PM
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Salmond has not been found guilty on all 14 charges.
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Old 23-03-2020, 03:01 PM
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Not guilty.

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Old 23-03-2020, 03:07 PM
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I think one or more was that not proven thing they have up there. That always seems a murky outcome for all parties.
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Old 23-03-2020, 05:33 PM
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Wow...nine women all lying.

Bet Harvey Weinstein wished he was tried in Scotland instead.
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Old 23-03-2020, 07:13 PM
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Wow...nine women all lying.

Bet Harvey Weinstein wished he was tried in Scotland instead.
^ This. I'm amazed after previously reading some of the accounts of what happened. However, I can understand the difficulties in prosecuting when the victims delay reporting incidents.
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Not guilty or not proven?

The latter I could understand
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Wow...nine women all lying.

Bet Harvey Weinstein wished he was tried in Scotland instead.
I think its more a case of a reasonable doubt defence against a beyond reasonable doubt conviction. There is a reason why so many accused don't sue for damages - as thats balance of evidence...

Likelyhood of all 9 women lying is well slim, but being able to prove something beyond reasonable doubt, means you can often get away with something if you build a defence around creating reasonable doubt.
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If he’s totally innocent then fine; but can’t help but think other females who have been abused by someone in a position of power, will look at this ruling and be less confident about coming forward in future.
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If he’s totally innocent then fine; but can’t help but think other females who have been abused by someone in a position of power, will look at this ruling and be less confident about coming forward in future.
The rationale is better for an guilty man to walk free than an innocent man to be condemned. Hence why John Terry was not found guilty of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand and why Harry Redknapp was not jailed for tax evasion.

Not guilty is not the same as innocent. Alex Salmond is highly likely to still be a wrongun.

Also if we were required to prove innocence beyond all reasonable doubt, everyone would go to prison for everything
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A former SNP staff member has claimed the legal anonymity granted to complainers in the Alex Salmond trial “will not be continued” and they will “reap a whirlwind”.
Mark Hirst, who worked for several Nationalist MSPs in the past, warned there would be a “reckoning” within the pro-independence movement once the coronavirus pandemic was over.
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A former SNP staff member has claimed the legal anonymity granted to complainers in the Alex Salmond trial “will not be continued” and they will “reap a whirlwind”.
Mark Hirst, who worked for several Nationalist MSPs in the past, warned there would be a “reckoning” within the pro-independence movement once the coronavirus pandemic was over.
He doesn't seem the most reliable or rational of sources.
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