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Old 14-01-2020, 02:19 PM
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Maybe now he's here some London Turks may pop along and wave a Turkish flag.... who cares.
Still think a Military salute is the next level..
Don't worry, the salutes were terrible. Even Hennessey did a better job of it.
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I don't know if it's been pointed out but, when Cenk comes on he fists bumps Sokratis...so it seems Tosun himself hasn't a problem with Greeks...and Sokratis has no problems with Turks.
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Isn't it Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots that have an issue with eachother, as opposed to just Turks and Greeks?

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Isn't it Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots that have an issue with eachother, as opposed to just Turks and Greeks?

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You're not. My family is Greek, even 20 years ago there was a severe dislike of Turks, now my Nan watches Turkish soaps (with subtitles) on Greek TV. No one really gives a toss any more, especially younger generations. Cypriots are a different matter...
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Isn't it Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots that have an issue with eachother, as opposed to just Turks and Greeks?

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I don't think there's any animosity between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots. In my experience the Greek Cypriots consider Turkish Cypriots to be fellow Cypriots.

However, the Greek Cypriots are less keen on actual Turks.
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Isn't it Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots that have an issue with eachother, as opposed to just Turks and Greeks?

I am probably well off to be fair.
Iím no expert, but I have worked for years with Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots - all of them say that before the Turkish Invasion of 1974, they lived as friends and good neighbours for centuries.

Itís a familiar problem of ordinary people getting caught up in the politics and ambitions of those far removed from the environment that is getting ruined.

As far as I can tell, the ordinary Cypriots have no problems with eachother and still want to be a unified nation some day - seems a long way off, but that is their dream, some have been away from their real homes for over 45 years.
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Cyprus is a lot nearer Turkey. Just saying...
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I was under the impression that the Greeks & Turks were on far friendlier terms these days. In the North London tag trade they work together a lot. There will always be some on both sides that will be antagonistic but thankfully the rivalry has seemingly become far less vitriolic which is a credit to all concerned.
You might want to ask the Cypriot Greeks and Turks about that one.
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Be interesting when Andros returns being half Greek Cypriot and all. I expect Tosun to find crosses to him in short supply.
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Cyprus is a lot nearer Turkey. Just saying...
Not as close as Greece being bordered with Turkey.
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Iím no expert, but I have worked for years with Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots - all of them say that before the Turkish Invasion of 1974, they lived as friends and good neighbours for centuries.

Itís a familiar problem of ordinary people getting caught up in the politics and ambitions of those far removed from the environment that is getting ruined.

As far as I can tell, the ordinary Cypriots have no problems with eachother and still want to be a unified nation some day - seems a long way off, but that is their dream, some have been away from their real homes for over 45 years.
The Turkish Cypriots I know would never call it an invasion. They call it the Turkish intervention in Cyprus. It wasn't the Turks arriving which caused the friction. If was there before that.
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You might want to ask the Cypriot Greeks and Turks about that one.
When Cyprus became independent, Greece, Turkey and the UK were guarantors, (of it's independence). Greek Cypriots were the majority, and EOKA had fought a guerrilla campaign against the UK to try to achieve ENOSIS (union with Greece).
The Greek government of the colonels (eventually kicked out by the Greeks), tried to stage a coup to seize Cyprus probably with the connivance of Archbishop/president Makarios.
Turkey appealed to the UK (as the main guarantor), to intervene, but 'perfidious Albion' refused and sat on it's hands.
So the Turks occupied the northern part of the island, where the majority of Turkish Cypriots lived.
Under the treaty of independence, the Turks were within their rights.
The last attempt by the EU to reunite the island, eventually resulted in an agreed proposal, which was put to plebiscites of the two communities.
The Turks approved of the proposal, the Greeks voted against.

'Northern Cyprus' is a burden for Turkey, which would probably like to withdraw as long as Turkish Cypriots' rights were restored and guaranteed.

Greek Cypriots, with the promise of recently discovered, big gas deposits off-shore southern Cyprus, and Russian money (the orthodox connection), are probably happy with the status quo.

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Whether he was there or not. I canít help but wonder if the Greek Palace fan celebrated today when Cenk scored today.
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