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Old 21-06-2010, 12:45 PM
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also shows the limits of the squad as they are:

No secondary defensive / holding midfielder - Carrick isn't suitable for the Barry role.

Unfit players taken to SA: James, Barry, King etc.etc. (I accept that you have to take Rooney)

No wide left players: Adam Johnson would have been ideal on the left.

No 2 players for every position - we agree that Carragher is too slow to be played at full back, so why take him as cover?
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Old 21-06-2010, 01:04 PM
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Fair enough but any left winger with a bit of pace will have Carragher eating dust, before doing the same to the centre backs. This would leave us very slow at the back.
Clearly he isn't perfect in this regard but if you don't defend too high up the pitch and use his natural defensive nouse, you can achieve things.
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Old 21-06-2010, 01:28 PM
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Clearly he isn't perfect in this regard but if you don't defend too high up the pitch and use his natural defensive nouse, you can achieve things.
Um, he is also suspended.
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Old 21-06-2010, 01:40 PM
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To be honest I couldn't give a stuff any more. I wish they would just come home and stop embarrassing us. It is clear that not one of them gives a toss about pulling on the shirt!
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Um, he is also suspended.
Ok can i have this for my team in the next round. Oh ok, there wont be one. 2 Ex-palace defenders in the back four now I see
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Old 21-06-2010, 02:43 PM
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Johnson---------Terry-------------Upson---------------A Cole

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SWP----------------------Rooney----------------------Gerrard

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can't have SWP or heskey as far as i'm concerned...heskey, aside from the fact there are 2 goalkeepers who have scored more international goals than him, is not a good partner for rooney

Rooney needs to be up front by himself with gerrard behind him and joe cole on the wing with lennon or milner on the other. Barry and Lamps play in front of the defence. I think this is the team the players want to have...IMHO if capello chooses this he'll still have a job come wednesday evening
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Old 21-06-2010, 07:09 PM
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Rooney, Heskey, Lampard and Lennon out. Couch, Defoe, Cole and Millner in. Dawson in for the Donkey and make Terry captain again(he may be a ******* ****, but, no one else seems to have the balls or ability to do a half decent job at it).
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I've changed my mind:

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Johnson---------Terry-------------Upson---------------A Cole

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SWP----------------------Rooney----------------------Gerrard

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I'm not a fan of Crouch, and think Heskey brings a lot more to the team. However, Crouch's record of goals against mediocre opposition cannot be questioned, and if he can put away a couple today, that's all we need.

Though I have a feeling from the above, we'll see Milner for SWP and Defoe for Crouch, in a 4-4-2
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I have no idea why Lennon is dropped when he was our best attacker v Algeria

My team would be thus

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BBC reckon that Defoe and Milner definitely start
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