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Old 18-03-2013, 06:19 PM
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Old 18-03-2013, 06:22 PM
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Maybe they thought as it was the fault of the previous owners than a points deduction would be unfair on the new ownership. I am surprised they didn't get a fine though.
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Old 18-03-2013, 06:32 PM
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Old 18-03-2013, 06:38 PM
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Well their f*cked if they go up, no signings allowed till August 31st!
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Old 18-03-2013, 06:40 PM
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The commission stated that Watford signed eight players in that time and although determining that the club gained a sporting advantage from those transfers, it did not deem a points deduction necessary.
So a sporting advantage would suggest that they did better than expected so surely they obtained more points? Shouldn't these be deducted then?
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Maybe they thought as it was the fault of the previous owners than a points deduction would be unfair on the new ownership. ...
There have been hefty deductions despite change of owners in previous cases. Mainly administration related charges, but they still applied the penalty depsite new boards.
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It won't matter to them, will it? Because of the arrangement they have with the two foreign Clubs, it's not looked upon as loan signings, is it?
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So a sporting advantage would suggest that they did better than expected so surely they obtained more points? Shouldn't these be deducted then?
You can go back to Luton where points are still deducted relating to insolvency etc. They are thratening the same with Pompey even if the Trust takes over. Which is a logical approach.

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Well their f*cked if they go up, no signings allowed till August 31st!
Can't they just exploit the usual unlimited Italian loans loophole?
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It won't matter to them, will it? Because of the arrangement they have with the two foreign Clubs, it's not looked upon as loan signings, is it?
Nothing to do with that.
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The cynic in me says its because they are challenging for promotion and if they don't achieve it purely because of a points deduction then the FA/FL will find themselves in a big court case.
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"Under the terms of the embargo, Watford can still sign players with prior permission from league officials.

The embargo will last until the end of the summer transfer window on 31 August."

One has to wonder then, what is the point?
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Nothing to do with that.
I know - I meant the transfer embargo won't bother them as they have the arrangement with the other Clubs. They don't need to transfer players from other League Clubs, so in that respect the embargo won't affect them.
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I know - I meant the transfer embargo won't bother them as they have the arrangement with the other Clubs. They don't need to transfer players from other League Clubs, so in that respect the embargo won't affect them.
Sorry Barbara.

Well, loans are one thing in the Championship. Not sur eit will suit them in the Prem (if). It would impede decent pre-season planning I imagine, though I see there is an escape clause - they can sign players with permission (oops as Gooders mentions above).
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So they were supposed to be under a transfer embargo for 11 months and as punishment, they don't lose any points but are put under one now for 5 months yet, with permission, are allowed to sign players.

Doesn't sound like much of a punishment to me...
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I know - I meant the transfer embargo won't bother them as they have the arrangement with the other Clubs. They don't need to transfer players from other League Clubs, so in that respect the embargo won't affect them.
If there is a genuine embargo in place then they will not be able to sign players from anywhere, UK or abroad, from their owners' other clubs or from elsewhere.

But as has been pointed out by Gooders, the "Watford can still sign players with prior permission from league officials" bit suggests that there will be no real punishment at all.
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