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Old 13-06-2017, 09:38 PM
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Old 13-06-2017, 09:39 PM
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He didn't though. He said he would set up competitive national suppliers in every region to provide competition. You know - soft nationalisation
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You keep reading things into every bit of Westminster tomfoolery that makes you happy chap. My mate H does as well. You should compare notes.
Tomfoolery? Love it.

New definition of tomfoolery: necessary negotiations and compromises to give a government enough votes to pass ANY legislation at all.

Try whipping the DUP. They will take that whip and insert it up ones arse (not the whippy end first)
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Old 13-06-2017, 09:43 PM
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Bbc said it wasn't due to budget cuts and instead written on high quality paper guaranteed to last for 500 years.
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Printed on archival paper......with a vellum cover.

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Old 13-06-2017, 09:44 PM
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No other party will want to cooperate with the Tories on Brexit. It's a hospital pass. The FT stuff this week on the preparedness of DExEU and early meetings with Barnier is shocking. After over a year and 12.5% through the A50 negotiating time there isn't a plan, an objective or a team. The Tories will be forced to own this and embrace the electoral oblivion.

Interesting to see in the YouGov figures they are already the party of the old and uneducated. Old people die.
Just decrease the voting age to 14, and take away voting rights of anyone over the age of 40. Or, what with the ever aging population, you better start euthanasia.

That way remain will win another referendum and Corbyn might be able to form a Government.

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Old 13-06-2017, 09:44 PM
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That's so soft, you might as well keep it as it is.....
I know. You said he couldn't do it without leaving the Eu though. Did you not check what was said first? It's the basic rules to having a point. Make sure you know what your point is.
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And we all age
Especially if you consume copper apples. You then age really fast.
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Old 13-06-2017, 09:48 PM
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Tomfoolery? Love it.

New definition of tomfoolery: necessary negotiations and compromises to give a government enough votes to pass ANY legislation at all.

Try whipping the DUP. They will take that whip and insert it up ones arse (not the whippy end first)
I would actually send the DUP lady in as a negotiator. Hard as nails, and there is no tougher politics than NI politics. Sitting opposite Corbyns mates IRA/SF and thrashing out March routes must be blood and thunder stuff!

No doubt she has "No Surrender" tattooed on her shoulder.
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Old 13-06-2017, 09:49 PM
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March on parliament?

I think March For Europe has that game all to themselves.

The only way Brexit can be called off is if a party is elected that has that specifically in their manifesto, forms a Government and gets an act of parliament to that end.

That won't happen. Consequently this fervent Brexiteer is perfectly happy with events.
Incorrect, an act or parliament doesn't need to be in a manifesto. And there is absolutely no legal requirement for the government to have to consult Parliament if it wants to try and withdraw article 50. "European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017" compels nothing and neither does "European Union Referendum Act 2015". It could go to court but nothing in Miller v DExEU would suggest the PM has to refer to Parliament if it wants rights to say the same. Quite the opposite.

The issue of whether Brexit could be called off is if the EU would or could allow that
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Just decrease the voting age to 14, and take away voting rights of anyone over the age of 40. Or, what with the ever aging population, you better start euthanasia.

That way remain will win another referendum and Corbyn might be able to form a Government.

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Remain would win tomorrow on the YouGov data that called the election correctly IF the same people voted. Don't need to change the franchise.
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Old 13-06-2017, 09:52 PM
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Just decrease the voting age to 14, and take away voting rights of anyone over the age of 40. Or, what with the ever aging population, you better start euthanasia.

That way remain will win another referendum and Corbyn might be able to form a Government.

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BTW, which are you? Uneducated or old?
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Old 13-06-2017, 09:53 PM
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I would actually send the DUP lady in as a negotiator. Hard as nails, and there is no tougher politics than NI politics. Sitting opposite Corbyns mates IRA/SF and thrashing out March routes must be blood and thunder stuff!

No doubt she has "No Surrender" tattooed on her shoulder.
if you wanted a no deal scenario or for us to give random people shit loads of money she would be perfect. Storemont can't reassemble because of her politics currently.

For me Ruth Davidson. Witty, seems intelligent, seems knowledgable and a people person.

Guess we have different intended results though
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Remain would win tomorrow on the YouGov data that called the election correctly IF the same people voted. Don't need to change the franchise.
If my aunt had balls......
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Remain would win tomorrow on the YouGov data that called the election correctly IF the same people voted. Don't need to change the franchise.
As an expat, did you vote?
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Old 13-06-2017, 09:56 PM
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I would actually send the DUP lady in as a negotiator. Hard as nails, and there is no tougher politics than NI politics. Sitting opposite Corbyns mates IRA/SF and thrashing out March routes must be blood and thunder stuff!

No doubt she has "No Surrender" tattooed on her shoulder.
She's a hard nut, for sure. However she also wants FoM with the RoI.
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if you wanted a no deal scenario or for us to give random people shit loads of money she would be perfect. Storemont can't reassemble because of her politics currently.

For me Ruth Davidson. Witty, seems intelligent, seems knowledgable and a people person.

Guess we have different intended results though
The DUP lady would beat her in an arm wrestle any day of the week.
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She's a hard nut, for sure. However she also wants FoM with the RoI.
It would probably depend on what price they wanted for it.
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