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Old 25-05-2018, 02:53 PM
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How strange. When the defense is strong, Hennessey is pretty good.
Yet he still makes cock ups.........

Look he's not a number one goal keeper he's a number two......

Why has nearly every manager since Pulis tried to replace him?
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Many said that this time last season, but...........
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What about Jeff Hopkins - can't see Sakho having the class to chip the keeper from 30 yards

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but I also think Benteke will have a good season next season.
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He isn't better than Kenny Sansom, or Ashley Cole, either when they were with us or their onwards careers

And is he a better defender that Eric Young, Andy Thorn or Jim Cannon? He is a more cultured footballer certainly, but he also makes some very strange errors
I'd agree that Kenny and Ashley Cole were probably better, but given that they are both in the top half a dozen or so most capped English full backs, that's a pretty high bar to set. But in terms of centre backs, he's certainly the best I've ever seen at Palace (going back to late 70s), and several levels above any of the three you mention imho.

Yes, there's always the risk of a moment of madness, but that aside (and if he didn't have that, he'd be 1st choice for one of Europe's top half a dozen clubs imho), he does absolutely everything extremely well. He's extremely effective defensively as well as being a very cultured footballer. But the biggest thing of all, is the influence he seems to have on those around him. I don't think I've ever seen a Palace player who' seems to make others around him look better in the way Sakho does.

That influence means that he's imho a close second behind Wilf as our most important player, and like Wilf, I'd only want us to consider selling if we get a crazy offer and the player himself makes it clear he wants to go.

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25 Million would not replace him
Agree - We can't be selling any of our genuine class acts. What sort of message does that send out to the likes of Wilf & Luka?
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Don’t want to see him go, he has been an integral part of our improvement once he came back from injury, his long term fitness has been the only issue - I think he is the best centre back we have had since Craig Moore some 20 years ago.

Does anyone know if we will revisit signing Amadou, the Lille defender, who was ready to sign at Beckenham in January, but Lille would not let him go at the last minute?
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Old 26-05-2018, 06:37 AM
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I'd agree that Kenny and Ashley Young were probably better, but given that they are both in the top half a dozen or so most capped English full backs, that's a pretty high bar to set. But in terms of centre backs, he's certainly the best I've ever seen at Palace (going back to late 70s), and several levels above any of the three you mention imho.

Yes, there's always the risk of a moment of madness, but that aside (and if he didn't have that, he'd be 1st choice for one of Europe's top half a dozen clubs imho), he does absolutely everything extremely well. He's extremely effective defensively as well as being a very cultured footballer. But the biggest thing of all, is the influence he seems to have on those around him. I don't think I've ever seen a Palace player who' seems to make others around him look better in the way Sakho does.

That influence means that he's imho a close second behind Wilf as our most important player, and like Wilf, I'd only want us to consider selling if we get a crazy offer and the player himself makes it clear he wants to go.
Ashley Young ?

What you talkin ‘bout Willis ?
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Yep he’s class. And the reasons we have got him is because he is a little mad and a little injury prone.
And because we signed his best mate Benteke first, probably.
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It's a tricky one to call as to whether he can be tempted to move to Lyon, afterall it is his homeland club and were once a Top team who may well be looking to re-emerge as a force again, which may tempt him.
From Palace's point of view it is only natural that Roy would want to keep and continue his impressive partnership with Tomkins, but i cant help think of how he also can be open to horrendous silly errors putting his team under unnecessary pressure.
Which is most likely why a good judge of players like Klopp decided to sell as he can be a liability for a top club, but from Palace's point of view he has brought that bit of composure to the Central Defence we lacked previously and it would be disappointing to lose him, but if an offer around £35m would be hard for the club to resist.
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By "homeland" i meant to say him returning home, but you are quite right he did come via PSG.
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I'd agree that Kenny and Ashley Young were probably better, but given that they are both in the top half a dozen or so most capped English full backs, that's a pretty high bar to set. But in terms of centre backs, he's certainly the best I've ever seen at Palace (going back to late 70s), and several levels above any of the three you mention imho...
It's always difficult comparing players from different eras - although I broadly agree with 917L.

More importantly, for me, he's not even the best central defender in our current squad, let alone of all time.
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It's always difficult comparing players from different eras - although I broadly agree with 917L.

More importantly, for me, he's not even the best central defender in our current squad, let alone of all time.
Yeah. I’d say he’s classier than Tomkins in terms of what he can offer playing out from the back, but James just does the simple things so well, and is just calmer and less error prone.
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What about Jeff Hopkins - can't see Sakho having the class to chip the keeper from 30 yards
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