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Old 21-05-2019, 12:01 AM
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As Pulp were formed four years before The Smiths, I would suggest this is fairly unlikely.
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As Pulp were formed four years before The Smiths, I would suggest this is fairly unlikely.
Poor old worksop....
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Old 21-05-2019, 04:26 PM
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My joint favourite band, with Meat Is Murder in my top five albums. Loved them since I was 15, love them even more now if anything.

I also love most of Moz’s solo stuff but my feelings about him have become more complicated in recent years. Bit of a shame and raises the interesting question about whether we should learn to separate the people from the music (or other art) they produce, or let them taint it as it’s representative of them and carries their personality. Tricky one.
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He's not "very different", he's a massive ****. Before I knew more about him, I always thought he was just the worst for the music he made. Turns out, it's wasn't even the tip of the iceberg.
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Having adored the Smiths for years, now faced with the undeniable evidence Morrissey is an advocate of a To view the link you have to Register or Login, I am now deliberately deluding myself into believing Jonny Marr when he talks about the "songs I wrote" as if nobody else was involved in the process from conception to performance.

Only works some of the way - I still don't listen to the songs very much and enjoy them less when I manage to.
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He has always been a massive twat.
I always thought their music was so much less interesting than was promised, as well, if you see what I mean.
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Old 21-05-2019, 05:21 PM
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My joint favourite band, with Meat Is Murder in my top five albums. Loved them since I was 15, love them even more now if anything.

I also love most of Moz’s solo stuff but my feelings about him have become more complicated in recent years. Bit of a shame and raises the interesting question about whether we should learn to separate the people from the music (or other art) they produce, or let them taint it as it’s representative of them and carries their personality. Tricky one.
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Old 23-05-2019, 10:58 AM
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Yes, I have the same problem with my Gary Glitter box set.
The thing is, if I went through all my music and deleted everyone who could fall into the tw@t category, I'd not have much music left.

On the one hand, why should the listener have that music scotched or stolen from them because the artist was a wrong 'un? But on the other hand, it does change the way you see the artist and how you enjoy their music, no getting away from that.

It's all bloody annoying really.
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Old 23-05-2019, 11:38 AM
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The thing is, if I went through all my music and deleted everyone who could fall into the tw@t category, I'd not have much music left.

On the one hand, why should the listener have that music scotched or stolen from them because the artist was a wrong 'un? But on the other hand, it does change the way you see the artist and how you enjoy their music, no getting away from that.

It's all bloody annoying really.
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Spillers Records, the world’s oldest record shop, has banned Morrissey albums from sale.

The shop in Cardiff made the decision due to Morrissey’s support for the far-right political party For Britain, including wearing a badge with the party’s logo when performing on a US talk show this month.

“I’m saddened but ultimately not surprised that Spillers is unable to stock Morrissey’s releases any longer,” said the shop’s owner, Ashli Todd. “I only wished I’d done it sooner.”

Morrissey is preparing to release his latest solo album on Friday, with covers including Joni Mitchell, Roy Orbison, Bob Dylan, performed with guests featuring members of Green Day, Grizzly Bear and Broken Social Scene.

Anne Marie Waters, leader of For Britain, has described Islam as evil and as “a culture that does not fit with ours”.

Waters thanked Morrissey this week for raising the profile of the party. “I can tell you that the traffic to our website exploded with the story breaking of you wearing the For Britain button badge,” she said. “I hope to meet you one day.”

The former Smiths frontman has become an increasingly controversial figure in recent years for a string of remarks and his support for the far right. He voiced support for EDL founder Tommy Robinson in the wake of his sentencing for contempt of court, saying: “It’s very obvious that Labour or the Tories do not believe in free speech … I mean, look at the shocking treatment of Tommy Robinson.”

He described halal meat preparation as evil and “requires certification that can only be given by supporters of Isis”; he told the NME in 2007 that “the higher the influx into England the more the British identity disappears … the gates of England are flooded. The country’s been thrown away”; and in 2010 described Chinese people as a “subspecies”.

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Find it very difficult to separate the anti-Thatcherite vegetarian of my youth with the shit Morrissey spouts in interviews over recent years, but the warning signs were there. I guess his Northern socialist image fitted in with his Smiths persona at the time.

Whatever I still enjoy listening to The Smiths as it brings back so many memories of the time.
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I shook Morrissey’s hand once. Judging by the outrage on this thread, I’m in fear my BBS life is hanging by a thread if a photo surfaces.


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One of the best B sides ever surely?
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One of the best B sides ever surely?
Yes but not the best. That's 'Floorshow' by The Sisters of Mercy back in '82.
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Yes but not the best. That's 'Floorshow' by The Sisters of Mercy back in '82.
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Only if you like perpetual angst and whining.

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