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Sansom was the finished product a while before he left us. Such an excellent player.

Wright was simply electrifying and spread total fear in the opposition. Privilege to see him play.

Wilf has been the stand out star for years. Feel sorry for him personally that Ferguson stepped down when he did as, very sadly, I think he would have gone on to far better things had he stayed bc at a top club with a good manager.

For sheer entertainment value, it has to be Ian Wright for me. We knew he was a superstar a long time before he left us.
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Ian Wright. With him we were a top three team. Without him we were relegated within eighteen months. Lombardo is the greatest pure technician I've ever seen at Palace, with Jansen getting close in some respects. ( There was a lost talent ) I would have put Zaha in a special category of being our greatest club 'hero' in terms of extended dedication / passion plus a high ( if not Wright-level ) water mark of achievement. But not after the summer shenanigans and subsequent sulk. That honour belongs to Markie Bright now, IMHO.
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At various stages in his career Wright was as good a finisher as anybody in the league.
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I would think it has to be someone you've seen playing live, so as I only started going to the games in 1980, unfortunately I narrowly missed seeing Kenny Sansom play for Palace, otherwise I'm sure he'd have been right up there.

The best outfield player I've seen was unquestionably (imho) Ian Wright. We all know his arrival was the catalyst in the team that kick started Palace after that bloody awful first few years of the 80s; every time he got the ball I expected him to do something good, and he often did. I know a larger chunk of his time with us was in the second division, but I think that's just circumstantial really, as he was equally as good in the first division against better defenders. I've still never been more gutted when a player left us - it's one of those "I remember where I was when I heard" things (it was actually when I bought the Evening Standard at Bank tube station, and saw the headline "Graham swoops") - and the fact he showed how good he was in a top team after leaving, as did Kenny actually, is a measure of how good a player we lost.

I loved seeing Attilio Lombardo, it was a privilege to watch him, and hard to believe a player of such international class and standing ever played for us - even Ron Noades couldn't believe it either from memory. If football was chess, he was about 4 moves ahead of his team mates most of the time, and if he'd played for us for 3 or 4 years at the same level of consistency he'd be pushing IW for top spot.

I don't think there can be too much doubt that Wilf is the best outfield player of the last 20 years, and I can understand why younger fans therefore think he's the GOAT. He's exciting, hugely strong on the ball physically, and capable of magnificent trickery. But there's not always an end product, which perhaps might be down to his team mates as much as to him, and every time he sits on his bum with his arms outstretched and a wide-eyed look of incredulity on his face at not getting a free kick, a little part of me thinks FFS just get up and get on with it. Maybe that's just because I'm an old fart.

But yeah, Wrighty for me.
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Old 13-11-2019, 01:48 AM
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Lombardo is the Palace player I have seen in a palace shirt
Wright is probably the best player for Palace

IMHO Will does not come close to the above whilst his skills and commitment are amazing his crossing, finishing and decision making are not.
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I remember Johnny Byrne so I go for him as a young player. Two other players not mentioned for the difference they made for Palace were Cliff Holton who did so much for Palace in the middle 1960s and l think Duggie Freedman was very skilful.
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Old 13-11-2019, 05:27 AM
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Lombardo always looked like he was on a totally different level.
Yes. In a way no other Palace player that I have watched has, or probably ever will. We had a player getting into the Italian national side playing for Palace when Italy were really rather good at football.

But we have to consider that he was also in the same team as Bruce Dyer and Carl Veart. That squad only had four actual players who could play football. Lombardo, Jansen, Warhurst and Curcic. and I don’t even remember that Jansen and Curcic made ten starts between them.
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I remember Johnny Byrne so I go for him as a young player. Two other players not mentioned for the difference they made for Palace were Cliff Holton who did so much for Palace in the middle 1960s and l think Duggie Freedman was very skilful.
My gran used to tell me about Cliff Holton.
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still Zaha.
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Ian Wright , 33 goals in the 88/89 season and 117 overall , made plenty of goals for Brighty as well , the guy was just magical .
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Best International player for palace. Attilio Lombardo by a country mile.

Best British player, Kenny Sansom. Shame about his gambling problems.
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Best players I have seen in no particular order
Byrne
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Salako might have made it if his career had not been destroyed by injury
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With the Wilf/Wright/Lombardo best all-time player debate being discussed as part of the Zaha threads...
Who was your best from these three or somebody else as our Greatest ever?
Could Don Rogers still have danced passed modern defenders as he did back in the day and just how amazing would Wilf have been against the typical defenders of yesteryear?

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Best players I have seen in no particular order
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Zaha easily the most talented and skillful, Lombardo the most classy but only over a short period, Judas Wright the most effective who got the absolute maximum from his ability.
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Sansom definitely looked in a different class to the opposition but then he only played one season in the top flight for us. Even in his teens, he looked a class above everyone else but it was playing against 3rd and 2nd Division opposition.

I was living abroad so I never saw Lombardo but I've heard more than one person whose opinion I respect saying that he was the best they ever saw playing for Palace. For a short but glorious window, I think Ian Wright was possibly the best I saw playing for us; the tragedy is that he probably went on to play even better for bloody Arsenal. Wilf goes close; in fact for one-man impact on the team he has arguably been the best. There's definitely a reasonable case to say that he has almost single-handedly kept us up a couple of seasons.

Peter Taylor at his best maybe but that was for a short, dazzling spell, mostly in Division 3. Geoff Thomas and Andy Gray in tandem, at their best, has never been bettered as a partnership in that position but again, for all too fleeting a moment. Impossible to compare but Nigel Martyn was capable of saves that almost defied belief. I could go on. All-in-all, it's almost impossible to say isn't it?
Yeah, I agree, how can you compare Zaha with Wright, completely different type of player, or even Jackson and Martyn, both goalies, but generations apart.
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I remember Johnny Byrne so I go for him as a young player. Two other players not mentioned for the difference they made for Palace were Cliff Holton who did so much for Palace in the middle 1960s and l think Duggie Freedman was very skilful.
Great minds think alike, I remember all of those, I had a special liking of Cliff Holton for some reason, even though he was not as skilful as Johnny Byrne, who I just edge above all others mentioned, although I don't think its fair to compare really, how can you compare a great forward to a great full back
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