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Old 18-06-2019, 10:05 AM
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The Telegraph seems sufficiently worried about him as a contender to run two concurrent stories. One being 'was he a spy' and the other entitled 'Florence of Belgravia' with reportedly unflattering remarks by Army chaps about his time in Afganistan.
I saw the spy thing. What's wrong with that? Unless he was spying for the Chinese I suppose.
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It's amazing, this failure to realise that No Deal Brexit is merely the start of the process and not the end. We will have no trade deals and will have to start years of negotiations with countries.
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I saw the spy thing. What's wrong with that? Unless he was spying for the Chinese I suppose.
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Myth.

If we go ahead with Brexit it won't be resolved quickly it will be another 10 years before all negotiations are resolved maybe longer.

Business is waiting to move or not, invest or not. If business still has unfettered access to the single market and ease of employment then most of it will remain and invest.

If we leave without this then European business will just leave or downgrade the uk to a single market to supply not a centre to manufacture in or trade from.

Inward investment has already fallen off the cliff, down 76 percent. If we leave without the above that will be the new normal and won't balance the business we are losing.
The likes of Gonzo either deliberately ignore this FACT or are too thick to understand it. Either way it’s not a good look.
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Old 18-06-2019, 10:10 AM
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I like Rory. Sadly this means he has no chance of winning
“You don't actually like Rory Stewart, you realise? You've just been held hostage for so long you're starting to identify with the "nice" kidnapper who seems like he might let you keep the bucket you've been shitting in for the past three years. He is the bucket boy of politics.”

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Who get to choose the next PM.
Who would destroy the Union.
Who would destroy the economy.
Who would destroy their own party.

God save us all.
Technically they only ever decide the leader of their party. Just on this occasion that person is likely to be asked by the Queen to form a government.
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The likes of Gonzo either deliberately ignore this FACT or are too thick to understand it. Either way it’s not a good look.
I have not ignored that at all.

If we leave with No Deal the business out look is known, we know that things will take time to put in place, we will know pretty quickly what the immediate trading arrangements will be.

At present business cannot plan for November because they do not know what basis they might be trading on.
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Technically they only ever decide the leader of their party. Just on this occasion that person is likely to be asked by the Queen to form a government.
What is this?

“O” level Government & Politics?
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I have not ignored that at all.

If we leave with No Deal the business out look is known, we know that things will take time to put in place, we will know pretty quickly what the immediate trading arrangements will be.

At present business cannot plan for November because they do not know what basis they might be trading on.
Are you in business Gonzo?
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The likes of Gonzo either deliberately ignore this FACT or are too thick to understand it. Either way it’s not a good look.
Calm down dear, active negoiations will continue forever as they do with Norway. The world changes and so terms will always have to be reviewed. You could say our position today is one of continuos negotiation. Theres a parliament with meps and continual meetings of head of state etc etc.
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How about.... country before party?
It's almost tribal, akin to country before Palace!

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What is this?

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Sorry i thought you were the one capitalising the word 'fact' to try and make your point look more important.

Simple question, is winning the Tory Leadership contests a guarantee that they become prime minister. Likely? yes, probable? yes, guaranteed? No.
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I do feel like I wasted my time doing a degree in politics when I could have got Gonzo to do a ladybird version.
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Old 18-06-2019, 10:20 AM
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Calm down dear, active negoiations will continue forever as they do with Norway. The world changes and so terms will always have to be reviewed. You could say our position today is one of continuos negotiation. Theres a parliament with meps and continual meetings of head of state etc etc.
Oh Good, Biggin’s twin brother has turned up.

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Technically they only ever decide the leader of their party. Just on this occasion that person is likely to be asked by the Queen to form a government.
I tire of reminding people we dont have a president. Im not against the idea but at the moment the head of state is the powerless queen.
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Rory isn't really a Conservative he should be in the Liberal Democrats or the Labour Party!
I believe he was a Labour man in his youth, but Dave asked him to fight for a seat, as he wanted non career political types..

I met a really good chap the other week at a party, a lecturer who was the first Chinese officer in the Met, again he was recruited by Dave as an outsider and stood for election in 2010..

Rory does come across as one of the most left wing Tories I've seen..
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I tire of reminding people we dont have a president. Im not against the idea but at the moment the head of state is the powerless queen.
She is not powerless, she just chooses (wisely) not to use it.
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I do feel like I wasted my time doing a degree in politics when I could have got Gonzo to do a ladybird version.
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She is not powerless, she just chooses (wisely) not to use it.
Hopefully now would be the time to make an exception.
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James O'B noting that it would seem that the only price that Tories would not pay is the democratic election of another party.


Bizarre, this taking back control, yes?
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