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Old 13-06-2019, 01:45 PM
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Thanks for posting that. Always nice to hear the influence Coppell had on so many young players - when he was not that old himself.

I think we can all guess who the ‘negative influence’ in the side was at that time. Shame it all ended like that.
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Great article. Note he also tips the hat to Ron Noades
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Very strange bloke , he came off a building site but got upset because people took the piss out of what he ate. Most have been the only building site in the 80’s that had no ‘banter’.
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I think you need to remember that Wright felt like an outsider when he first got picked up by the club. Nearly everyone else would’ve gone through the usual youth, reserves into first team channels, but he literally just stepped out of Sunday League football into one of the top 40 professional clubs in the country. It was daunting, especially around established professionals and not to mention Mr Crystal Palace himself - Jim Cannon. The old school ways of ‘tough love’ back in those days from senior male professionals (in all walks of life) would’ve been difficult for the young, sensitive Wright to fit in with.

I know it’s hard to believe now, but he was quite a shy, introverted character away from the pitch in the very early days. He was like a fan who’d stumbled into this world he’d only ever dreamed of being in. He was totally in awe of his manager - the ex Man U and England starlet and household name. Thankfully Coppell used this to nurture the lad in the right way, almost with the love and attention of a caring, doting father.

Watching Wrighty on TV these days always makes me think of what he was like when he first appeared on TV. Somewhere I’ve got a video of what I think was his first ever proper interview in front of the cameras for Croydon Cable channel around ‘87 maybe? Shy doesn’t quite cover it. He was quiet, monosyllabic, totally nervous and overwhelmed at being interviewed in front of a camera. I must fish it out one day.

His first national bit of ‘celebrity’ was on a ‘Question of Sport’. That must’ve been ‘89?...was very subdued and nervous on that too. A far cry from the all singing all dancing confident entertainer we see today.
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I think you need to remember that Wright felt like an outsider when he first got picked up by the club. Nearly everyone else would’ve gone through the usual youth, reserves into first team channels, but he literally just stepped out of Sunday League football into one of the top 40 professional clubs in the country. It was daunting, especially around established professionals and not to mention Mr Crystal Palace himself - Jim Cannon. The old school ways of ‘tough love’ back in those days from senior male professionals (in all walks of life) would’ve been difficult for the young, sensitive Wright to fit in with.

I know it’s hard to believe now, but he was quite a shy, introverted character away from the pitch in the very early days. He was like a fan who’d stumbled into this world he’d only ever dreamed of being in. He was totally in awe of his manager - the ex Man U and England starlet and household name. Thankfully Coppell used this to nurture the lad in the right way, almost with the love and attention of a caring, doting father.

Watching Wrighty on TV these days always makes me think of what he was like when he first appeared on TV. Somewhere I’ve got a video of what I think was his first ever proper interview in front of the cameras for Croydon Cable channel around ‘87 maybe? Shy doesn’t quite cover it. He was quiet, monosyllabic, totally nervous and overwhelmed at being interviewed in front of a camera. I must fish it out one day.

His first national bit of ‘celebrity’ was on a ‘Question of Sport’. That must’ve been ‘89?...was very subdued and nervous on that too. A far cry from the all singing all dancing confident entertainer we see today.
Ironic that Wright and his gang (Bright, Gray etc) heavily bullied Stan Collymore when he joined in similar circumstances, they were merciless about Stans accent andvwhere he was from.

Still he also turned into a solid broadcaster
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who bullied Wrigthty then?

I think there were rumours that the old school pros didn’t get on with the young South London kids who came through/signed in the mid-80’s - Cannon, Droy, Wood etc. Coppell moved them out pretty sharpish. Not sure anyone would want to mess with any of those three.
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Always seemed to be a bit of ‘friction’ between different groups in the Palace team in the early Coppell years - there were the Scots, i.e. Jim Cannon, George Wood and Alan Irvine, who formed their own little clique and of course once Mark Bright arrived from Leicester, there was another group consisting of Andy Gray, Tony Finnegan, Wrighty and Bright.

It’s difficult to say how much of the banter between the groups was mickey taking or actually downright abusive, but there is no doubt various situations came up, which probably were par for the course thirty five years ago, like when Cannon rubbed Wright’s face in the mud during training, but would be a major issue today.

In later years, you had a ‘Northern’ clique with Geoff Thomas, John Pemberton, Neil Redfearn etc which also used to spark off various rivalries within the Palace squad, but once again, it’s doubtful how much of it was more than banter - it’s a little bit one sided to think Ian Wright got picked on in isolation too - he certainly used to give younger players like John Salako and Stan Collymore plenty of verbals, that was common knowledge!
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Ironic that Wright and his gang (Bright, Gray etc) heavily bullied Stan Collymore when he joined in similar circumstances, they were merciless about Stans accent andvwhere he was from.
This is a very good point. There’s still bad blood there with Collymore
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Always seemed to be a bit of ‘friction’ between different groups in the Palace team in the early Coppell years - there were the Scots, i.e. Jim Cannon, George Wood and Alan Irvine, who formed their own little clique and of course once Mark Bright arrived from Leicester, there was another group consisting of Andy Gray, Tony Finnegan, Wrighty and Bright.

It’s difficult to say how much of the banter between the groups was mickey taking or actually downright abusive, but there is no doubt various situations came up, which probably were par for the course thirty five years ago, like when Cannon rubbed Wright’s face in the mud during training, but would be a major issue today.

In later years, you had a ‘Northern’ clique with Geoff Thomas, John Pemberton, Neil Redfearn etc which also used to spark off various rivalries within the Palace squad, but once again, it’s doubtful how much of it was more than banter - it’s a little bit one sided to think Ian Wright got picked on in isolation too - he certainly used to give younger players like John Salako and Stan Collymore plenty of verbals, that was common knowledge!
It was a dressing room full of testosterone. Just the way it probably 'was'. "bullying" - I doubt it, just a few "****'s" in the dressing room. I think Wright was a cheeky upstart to get his personality into the mix, and had to take it, but as the old guard moved out, he moved in.

And Wrighty used to hammer Stan, Pardew & Salako on and off the pitch among others, am sure. Numerous references in relation to Stan from Wright over the years. His car, his clothes, etc. I had heard of Chris Colemans nickname, and it wouldn't go down well in this day and age.

Just different people from different upbringings battling it out to be Alpha males in the dressing room.
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Elephant in the room.... lots of racism knocking about back then and older pros not happy with these young upstarts

Blacks v Whites matches in training probably didn't help but this was the 80s and commonplace
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Collymore/Thorn is a whole new story altogether. The class of 91' were mentally a tough group.
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Why he has he suddenly taken to talking about this in the last 2/3 years?

It seems obvious that there some issues in the early days and that maybe explains why Cannon was dumped so unceremoniously.

That said, he was no angel himself and I can not believe it is so one sided - certainly Collymore would not think so.
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He built bridges with many fans by swapping Lombardo's shirt in the 0-0 draw in late 97', and then built up hopes with a return to SE25 with the interview with Johnathan Pearce in early 98' stating he would love to finish his playing days here. 18 months later he had the perfect chance to rewrite the past, and he opted to team up with ex Palace coach Stan up at Burnley, whilst the club was crippled. Sir Steve actively actively said it was the perfect time for him to come home. It would have been the perfect tonic for the club, and a massive morale boost for all involved.
I didn't see Wrighty climbing into helicopters with Parish at Scunthorpe away in 2010, nor conveniently walking up the Holmesdale concourse prior to Barnsley at home in front of 13,500. It's always been about Ian Wright, and always will be. As a footballer for CPFC he was a joy to watch, but as an individual I don't have any time for him.

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I've been reliably informed there was a lot of animosity between the two of them and they frequently had to be separated at the old Mitcham training ground.
Even when Thorn/Collymore lined up for different teams they went at it on the pitch (Wimbledon/Liverpool respectively)
Thorn was no angel and would regularly dish it out to the kids with Wally Downes. (go to 0.50 seconds)

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He built bridges with many fans by swapping Lombardo's shirt in the 0-0 draw in late 97', and then built up hopes with a return to SE25 with the interview with Johnathan Pearce in early 98' stating he would love to finish his playing days here. 18 months later he had the perfect chance to rewrite the past, and he opted to team up with ex Palace coach Stan up at Burnley, whilst the club was crippled. Sir Steve actively actively said it was the perfect time for him to come home. It would have been the perfect tonic for the club, and a massive morale boost for all involved.
I didn't see Wrighty climbing into helicopters with Parish at Scunthorpe away in 2010, nor conveniently walking up the Holmesdale concourse prior to Barnsley at home in front of 13,500. It's always been about Ian Wright, and always will be. As a footballer for CPFC he was a joy to watch, but as an individual I don't have any time for him.



I've been reliably informed there was a lot of animosity between the two of them and they frequently had to be separated at the old Mitcham training ground.
Even when Thorn/Collymore lined up for different teams they went at it on the pitch (Wimbledon/Liverpool respectively)
Thorn was no angel and would regularly dish it out to the kids with Wally Downes. (go to 0.50 seconds)

Shocking to see how the Manchester Oilers and 'launder my money and save me from Polonium' Chelski are both down at the bottom end of the table in '95. How money, oil and oligarchy change things.
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