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Old 07-06-2019, 06:20 PM
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The only homophobic action I have ever taken was probably 60 years ago when some one announced that typically on the top deck of every bus would be a homosexual. so naturally I looked around to see who it was, for some reason I always assumed the girls were ok.

So different then ,when gay meant jolly and pleasant and straight usually meant a bit of straight wood.

Why can't people just leave others alone to live their own lives.
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:34 PM
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Four teens, aged 15-18, have been arrested

And on another thread people are arguing we shouldn't teach kids at school that gay people exist and should be respected.
It's a noble thought, but cynically I'm not sure how much good it would do in reality. I fear the problem stems from community/family attitudes to it and within a lot of working class communities I'm not completely sure it's accepted outside of 'keep it away from me and I don't have a problem with it', and these attitudes subsequently get passed on to a percentage of the younger members of a community/family.

I've seen these attitudes within my own extended family (Irish Catholic), and if the topic ever arose as to how they would treat a son/daughter who came out as gay, it receives nothing but scorn and ridicule and even some go so far as to say they'd disown them. Ridiculously sad that people still have these attitudes and I'm sure most people would know of family members or just people you know that are pretty much the same as the above.

How do you get people to change views that are so deep rooted and backed by religion? It's hard to know for sure. I live in hope that with each generation going forward the number of people with these views will die out in time.

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Old 07-06-2019, 06:41 PM
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:44 PM
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:46 PM
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Four teens, aged 15-18, have been arrested

And on another thread people are arguing we shouldn't teach kids at school that gay people exist and should be respected.
Unf**ing believable in this day and age that these attackers should not be accepting of people’s right to live openly. It’s a bit like the protestors in Birmingham, they are using the fact that we are an accepting society to target a specific group. If the tables were turned they’d be the first to protest. Good on the local mayor in the midlands I say
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:47 PM
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It's a noble thought, but cynically I'm not sure how much good it would do in reality. I fear the problem stems from community/family attitudes to it and within a lot of working class communities I'm not completely sure it's accepted outside of 'keep it away from me and I don't have a problem with it', and these attitudes subsequently get passed on to a percentage of the younger members of a community/family.

I've seen these attitudes within my own extended family (Irish Catholic), and if the topic ever arose as to how they would treat a son/daughter who came out as gay, it receives nothing but scorn and ridicule and even some go so far as to say they'd disown them. Ridiculously sad that people still have these attitudes and I'm sure most people would know of family members or just people you know that are pretty much the same as the above.

How do you get people to change views that are so deep rooted and backed by religion? It's hard to know for sure. I live in hope that with each generation going forward the number of people with these views will die out in time.
Attitudes have got better and education plays a part in that.
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:48 PM
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It’s not just homophobia but misogyny as well.

All of my gay friends said that outside of Soho they are very careful with public affection.
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:51 PM
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Attitudes have got better and education plays a part in that.
Oh I completely agree. It's more just, I'm not sure how you go about eradicating the problematic views that some communities and families currently have around LGBT issues. I'm just not sure that education at a young age is likely to change the views of the four scumbags that got arrested or future scumbags, because I think it runs a bit deeper in terms of community and family influence as I mentioned above.

How do you go about eradicating the views of said communities and families when they are so entrenched? I just hope that those with heavy influence begin to die off and we see the entrenched views dissipate even further.
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:54 PM
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Old 07-06-2019, 07:38 PM
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It's a noble thought, but cynically I'm not sure how much good it would do in reality. I fear the problem stems from community/family attitudes to it and within a lot of working class communities I'm not completely sure it's accepted outside of 'keep it away from me and I don't have a problem with it', and these attitudes subsequently get passed on to a percentage of the younger members of a community/family.

I've seen these attitudes within my own extended family (Irish Catholic), and if the topic ever arose as to how they would treat a son/daughter who came out as gay, it receives nothing but scorn and ridicule and even some go so far as to say they'd disown them. Ridiculously sad that people still have these attitudes and I'm sure most people would know of family members or just people you know that are pretty much the same as the above.

How do you get people to change views that are so deep rooted and backed by religion? It's hard to know for sure. I live in hope that with each generation going forward the number of people with these views will die out in time.
I come from a Greek/Cypriot background, and I’m pretty certain had I been gay and was open about it, I would’ve been disowned by my parents and older relatives of my extended family. At the very least my parents would’ve been horrified. I know my other mates from different ethnic backgrounds would have had similar experiences. I think these backward beliefs originate from their allegiance to their religious beliefs, which unfortunately gets confused with their loyalty and love of their family and community.

Thankfully following generations have become more awakened and these beliefs are fast fading...I hope.
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All of my gay friends said that outside of Soho they are very careful with public affection.
I never go to soho but in brighton i see lots of girls holding hands, regular stuff no one takes any notice.
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Dunno if you’re more of a prick or more of a boring ****wit. Take ya pick.

He’s just a genuinely shitty individual with o redeeming features. He will no doubt respond to this with another witty, mildly homophobic remark or insult that he will no doubt pass off as “just a joke”.
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