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Old 16-01-2013, 01:56 PM
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No one actually knows what the Football League FPP rules say as they haven't been released. If they are the same as the UEFA ones then there is no chance Brighton are within them. If they are watered down then they stand a chance.

That said I am amazed they have not broken even, what the hell are they spending all that money on, it's not the ground (as they are not charging interest on the loan) and it is not the players as we keep getting told their budget is bugger all and ours is higher.

What's left?

I genuinely don't understand it. Even if their wage bill is consistent with ours they ought to be at least breaking even.
Are you sure about that, only Paul Barber explains what is needed to comply with the rules in this interview. He says the loss at the moment has to be reduced by 3 million within the next two years. So what he is saying that Brighton could be losing 5 million in two years time and be within the rules.

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Old 16-01-2013, 01:57 PM
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Depends if you're including money owed to Simon Jordan or not. 13 businesses/individuals were owed 367,438. They're a motley crew of Football agents, marketing, sign printing, etc. Happily, none went out of business as a result.

18,144,798 was owed to a range of institutions regarding Selhurst Park, rent issues, bank overdraft, tax (includes Lloyds, lawyers, HMRC)

2 other football clubs from abroad (Sporting Lisbon and Austria Vienna) were owed 319,530

Simon Jordan was owed 7,852,353

Martin Long (who now co-owns us) was owed 100k and St John Ambulance 19k which was paid by the fans.

I think all the long term season ticket owners counted as being owed too. They had their tickets honoured, so not sure if you'd want to include them in the list?

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Cheating! That really is rich..........For cheating, see zahas yellow last night for diving. Been saying it for donkeys much to the denials of the palace fans. Great player, very talented, but cheating is part and parcel of his game. Got caught last night, but it wont stop the serial diver attempting to cheat again.

Wrong again, Sky commentator last night at half time said contact was made and should have been a penalty (after watching replays) So ref got it wrong by his accounts and should not have been a yellow card .

I will take his word rather than yours on this one as he actually witnessed the incident
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[QUOTE=relegatedeagle]Are you sure about that, only Paul Barber explains what is needed to comply with the rules in this interview. He says the loss at the moment has to be reduced by 3 million within the next two years. So what he is saying that Brighton could be losing 5 million in two years time and be within the rules.

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Are you sure about that, only Paul Barber explains what is needed to comply with the rules in this interview. He says the loss at the moment has to be reduced by 3 million within the next two years. So what he is saying that Brighton could be losing 5 million in two years time and be within the rules.

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Yes, tha's been kicking around for a while. It doesn't address any of the interesting points about whether the FL rules are watered down or not.

That Brighton appear cool with them suggests they have, and a lot.
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Depends if you're including money owed to Simon Jordan or not. 13 businesses/individuals were owed 367,438. They're a motley crew of Football agents, marketing, sign printing, etc. Happily, none went out of business as a result.

18,144,798 was owed to a range of institutions regarding Selhurst Park, rent issues, bank overdraft, tax (includes Lloyds, lawyers, HMRC)

2 other football clubs from abroad (Sporting Lisbon and Austria Vienna) were owed 319,530

Simon Jordan was owed 7,852,353

Martin Long (who now co-owns us) was owed 100k and St John Ambulance 19k which was paid by the fans.

I think all the long term season ticket owners counted as being owed too. They had their tickets honoured, so not sure if you'd want to include them in the list?
So best case scenario 19m ish but really what's owed to Jordan should be included as should the long term STs as we were effectively creditors. Think this was about a couple off million. This brings us up to 29m.

Using the same rules for Brighton it works out at 120m if you take the loan from Bloom and the current and projected losses
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Yes, tha's been kicking around for a while. It doesn't address any of the interesting points about whether the FL rules are watered down or not.

That Brighton appear cool with them suggests they have, and a lot.
Oh ok , Had a look elsewhere and cant see any amendments made to the original outline voted on by football league clubs.
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No one actually knows what the Football League FPP rules say as they haven't been released. If they are the same as the UEFA ones then there is no chance Brighton are within them. If they are watered down then they stand a chance.

That said I am amazed they have not broken even, what the hell are they spending all that money on, it's not the ground (as they are not charging interest on the loan) and it is not the players as we keep getting told their budget is bugger all and ours is higher.

What's left?

I genuinely don't understand it. Even if their wage bill is consistent with ours they ought to be at least breaking even.
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