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First rule of vegan club tell everyone about vegan club. Each to their own for the most part vegans really are insufferable bores pushing their thoughts on you and protesting at restos etc. They really are a pain in the arse if you are a vegan ,vegetarian or meat eater good for you but don't accuse me of being a murderer etc "Meat in your mouth as you savour the flavour of murder" just piss off.
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Iíd like to try it. I think its quite a worthy cause and take my hat off to anyone who is a vegan. I also think i could handle the lack of meat easy enough.

Unfortunately iím far too lazy to make the effort to buy alternative foods. Requires too much effort on my part.
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They will need feeding and generally taken care of , they will suffer neglect , what do you think will happen to them ? So you suggest a mass extermination of all farmed animals?
Errr isnít this what happens everyday?
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So what happens to these many billions of farm animals produced solely for human consumption brains ?
They will die, of course, but then untold future billions will not have to exist to be killed for our pleasure.
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Errr isnít this what happens everyday?
Your suggestion would make that scenario happen a million times over
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They will die, of course, but then untold future billions will not have to exist to be killed for our pleasure.
They will still suffer won't they ? They will likely starve to death , be at the mercy of other predators and their deaths will likely be slow and painful and be very damaging to the food chain and environment
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Your suggestion would make that scenario happen a million times over
Nope just the once. It is an inevitable fate anyway.
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They will still suffer won't they ? They will likely starve to death , be at the mercy of other predators and their deaths will likely be slow and painful and be very damaging to the food chain and environment
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Like all these hair brained ideas , there was a similar argument on electric cars , I never read a convincing answer that smacks of logic and common sense
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Pheasants, Rabbits and Pigeon are the best meats from an animal welfare point of view.
Add wild venison, duck, geese, hares and partridge to that list.

Plenty of ethical meat out there, just avoid the supermarket meat counter.

Both my sons and their partners eat a mostly vegan diet, although all of them will eat meat and fish if they know it has been reared properly* or was wild. This pretty much equates to only eating meat at home and never at a restaurant.

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Add wild venison, duck, geese, hares and partridge to that list.
Which species of geese and partridge (genuine question - not being a dick for once)?
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Which species of geese and partridge (genuine question - not being a dick for once)?
Down here, Canada, greylag and frogs.
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Down here, Canada, greylag and frogs.
Ta. Presumably the greylags are feral scum? (Also, are red-legged partridges "managed" in a similar way to pheasants?)
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I dont know what its like where you are in Sevilla but here we are lucky that it is very rural, so fruit and veg is always cheap, local and good quality....same as our meat. My diet being changed, drasticly, has been linked with a recent onset of anxiety and depression, so the meat partof my diet will be increased to help.
When I went to Spain it seemed really hard to stay vegan, it just seemed like meat and cheese everywhere. A lot of people have said the tough times come when you travel, its ok for me getting into a groove at home but then you lose a bit of control when you go out of that.
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Add wild venison, duck, geese, hares and partridge to that list.

Plenty of ethical meat out there, just avoid the supermarket meat counter.

Both my sons and their partners eat a mostly vegan diet, although all of them will eat meat and fish if they know it has been reared properly* or was wild. This pretty much equates to only eating meat at home and never at a restaurant.

[* not some poxy welfare standard, but actually knowing the farm personally.]
Absolutely. When we live in NZ on arrival we were appalled at the signs "Joe Blogs Home Kill" until we realised that it was 100 times better. A life being looked after and then zero stress before it was all over. Made what we have here barbaric, especially the trend for Halal meat where they are forced to bleed to death thrashing around rather than a quick death.
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Like all these hair brained ideas , there was a similar argument on electric cars , I never read a convincing answer that smacks of logic and common sense
But what you are saying has no logic at all!
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Noticeable isn't it ? Or the ridiculous pickiness in a restaurant, oh all right I'll eat fish and chicken
Maybe they're picky because there's often only choice to pick from and they have to find it first, sometimes by asking questions?

Best one for me was in India, I ordered a vegetable stew, Indian style, checked it was all ok and it came with a great ******* layer of cheese on top. They said thats how it was made wtf.
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Presumably the greylags are feral scum? (Also, are red-legged partridges "managed" in a similar way to pheasants?)
In the main, yes.

(Plenty of naturalised frogs living and outbreeding our greys in the south, although countrywide that would be a yes)
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Maybe they're picky because there's only choice to pick from and they have to find it first, sometimes by asking questions?

Best one for me was in India, I ordered a vegetable stew, Indian style, checked it was all ok and it came with a great ******* layer of cheese on top. They said thats how it was made wtf.
My experience is that they are self centered and selfish and wallowing in the attention
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