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View Poll Results: Which best describes you?
Currently in Holmesdale Lower, if rail seats (ie standing) are installed I want to be in them 155 40.26%
Currently in Holmesdale Lower - would choose a seating area if back of lower became standing 32 8.31%
Currently NOT IN Holmesdale Lower but would love to move to rail seating (standing) 113 29.35%
Not in Lower tier, and no interest in being in any standing area 68 17.66%
MOO! 17 4.42%
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Agree with all of Dorking and Billy Rhino's points.

A full rail seated lower tier would be a very positive (and popular) thing to do.
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Cost? About a week of Benteke's wage.
I think rule of thumb is around £100 per seat, so lower Hol around £600k to fully covert. So not far off!
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Cost? About a week of Benteke's wage.
About a month but still brings it home how much these buggers cost.
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Great poll.

Think the results show that any reshuffling that was to occur would have been so much better placed to wait until the rail seating were implemented.

I think SP in his heart of hearts was wanting the approval of these, which was touch and go before the start of the season.

The HF took this as a 'promise' to move, then the 'broken promise' when SP was told they were not approved for this season.

The outlook for the introduction of safe rail seating looks very positive, so it is a case of when not if.

I guess in an ideal world I wish the HF had waited. SP may possibly chosen his words on a 'promise' to move to be firmly conditional on rail seating.

We will never know if SP words were 'woolly' on this matter to the HF or if the HF choose to hear what they wanted, which forced them into 'Strike action' which has forced in turn SP actions that have affected the E400

Calling the handling etc a 's*t show' etc is harsh given the ever moving factors beyond the clubs control involved.

A little patience and better choice of words in the beginning would have avoided a whole lot of pain though I'd assume!

Hopefully these get approved asap and this whole painful episode can be put in the past.

Another poll question or addition to this... 'How many of the e400 would be interested in the rail seating'
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Shrewsbury paid £75k for 550 seats
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Blimey, more expensive than I thought. I do think they should be gradually introduced anyway so maybe this sort of cost will rule out a full reset of the LH for a while yet.

Parish would be silly to rule the idea out full stop though. If he wants the club to have other income streams maybe he should set up a company that installs rail seating?
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I think rule of thumb is around £100 per seat, so lower Hol around £600k to fully covert. So not far off!
Possibly a fair bit more than that, though I recall Celtic pro rata cost was higher due to issues with where the seats were going in (IIRC). Say a month of Benteke's salary plus the money we slipped into Scudamore's leaving envelope.
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If we actually gave the cup games our best shot rather than playing the reserves then the club could make that in gate receipt share and tv money.

For example in the League Cup this season we could have been a home game against Burton away from a two-legged (both televised) pair of games against a top 6 team
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Wycombe Wanderers installing seats designed to mix sitting and standing - with eye level the same in either case.
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Surveying fans, why didn't Steve Parish think of such a revolutionary idea.
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Agree with all of Dorking and Billy Rhino's points.

A full rail seated lower tier would be a very positive (and popular) thing to do.
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Man City looking at various stadium reconfiguration options including to install rail seating.

They are surveying their fans now to guage how many there would be demand for



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Unfortunately I can't find an explanation of how this works!
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Man City looking at various stadium reconfiguration options including to install rail seating.

They are surveying their fans now to guage how many there would be demand for



I would love to know what the plus concept is. For us scoring goals and winning at home might be worth paying a bit more on our season ticket.
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