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Old 31-05-2020, 05:52 AM
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I live in Minneapolis around 2 miles from where the George Floyd murder took place and around 3 miles from the epicenter of the rioting. We are preparing for a rough night. Our local petrol station got torched last night. All of our local restaurants are boarded up.

Thankfully no issues on my street yet but the wife and I are hunkering down for the night.
The South side according to my sister who lives near you it seems. Chatting to her she is more to the North she seemed to think it was a bit better now. Though the National Guard helped.

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I can’t find it but there is a very good documentary about this on Netflix some of the private businesses that build and run prisons in the US arE promised a certain number of new prisoners with minimum sentences
Why aren’t the population outraged? It doesn’t make sense. I wonder if the price is higher for black inmates.
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Old 31-05-2020, 06:29 AM
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Anyone see the clip of the store owner being beat unconscious... then the protesters carry on kicking him in the head while he is unconscious. Hope he ain’t dead.
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They weren't destroying the livelihood of members from their own community.
Overturning cars and looting from shops is still a sign of discontent.
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Old 31-05-2020, 09:05 AM
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Overturning cars and looting from shops is still a sign of discontent.
You do realise that more people have died as a result of these riots, that started as a protest to.... a murder?

Do you not see a contradiction in this.
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Old 31-05-2020, 12:39 PM
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You do realise that more people have died as a result of these riots, that started as a protest to.... a murder?

Do you not see a contradiction in this.
You seem fairly determined to tar all of the protesters with the same brush. Of course there is a stupid minority of people jumping on the violence bandwagon, but at the same time there are those protesting peacefully, those who were called sons of bitches for previously peacefully protesting and now don't see any other choice, and those trying to protest peacefully but are being provoked by an out of control police force.

That police force is also targetting the media quite a bit. Wonder how many of them are red hat wearers.

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You seem fairly determined to tar all of the protesters with the same brush.

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Old 31-05-2020, 01:01 PM
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You seem fairly determined to tar all of the protesters with the same brush. Of course there is a stupid minority of people jumping on the violence bandwagon, but at the same time there are those protesting peacefully, those who were called sons of bitches for previously peacefully protesting and now don't see any other choice, and those trying to protest peacefully but are being provoked by an out of control police force.

That police force is also targetting the media quite a bit. Wonder how many of them are red hat wearers.

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This all pretty shitty... no doubt there are thick ****tards on both sides... but it’s so tiresome to say protesters beat man unconscious, then other side say “yea, but.. police did this”

Twitter is full of people saying police did this to a black man, then others show police doing something awful to a white guy... and goes back n forth with people playing whataboutery.

Got family that live in North Carolina and Florida... both have said there’s been looting close by... no protests... just thieving... this is gonna play straight in to Trumps hands
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Old 31-05-2020, 01:06 PM
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This all pretty shitty... no doubt there are thick ****tards on both sides... but it’s so tiresome to say protesters beat man unconscious, then other side say “yea, but.. police did this”

Twitter is full of people saying police did this to a black man, then others show police doing something awful to a white guy... and goes back n forth with people playing whataboutery.

Got family that live in North Carolina and Florida... both have said there’s been looting close by... no protests... just thieving... this is gonna play straight in to Trumps hands
I didn't "yeah but" it. I clearly acknowledged there are idiots out and about and involved in the riots.

What I'm saying is that the idiots shouldn't distract from the reason these protests are happening, which seemed to be what that poster was trying to do. And I was also highlighting that whilst there are idiots, many people are being provoked into non peaceful methods.

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For those on here that live there or who have a lot of knowledge of the place over the last 50 years or so, has racial inequality changed at all? Is it a case of in some states/areas yes but not in others?
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I can’t find it but there is a very good documentary about this on Netflix some of the private businesses that build and run prisons in the US arE promised a certain number of new prisoners with minimum sentences
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I see the demonstration in London in support of George Floyd is taking place. Certainly I understand the sentiment as to why. However in the current circumstances the lack of policing i will say wrong way in the current circumstances. Risking losing support for a justifiable cause.
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You do realise that more people have died as a result of these riots, that started as a protest to.... a murder?

Do you not see a contradiction in this.
What do you suggest they do given this police brutality against African Americans has been going on forever and their commander in chief seems to support white supremacists? Do you think they would be better of continuing to accept it and move on?
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For those on here that live there or who have a lot of knowledge of the place over the last 50 years or so, has racial inequality changed at all? Is it a case of in some states/areas yes but not in others?
Arguably improved, ‘The War on Drugs’ is mostly over for instance and there are now many more POC in positions of power and the relative educational achievements of African Americans are vastly improved compared to the 60’s - but there are still huge disparities in wealth, employment, justice and health between black and brown people and white.

The problems are far reaching and multiple, institutionalized racism, red lining, poverty traps, access to education/healthcare, voter suppression, justice/incarnation and even a two term black president made much of difference.

There’s also the failure of good hearted white people (like myself) to make racism more of an issue both at the ballot box and in day to day life. It’s out of sight out of mind sadly - until moments like recent events when people leap into action with meaningful Facebook posts.

For me it’s the failure of progressive cities to get handle on things that strikes home. Take Minneapolis, my wife’s home town. A city populated with kind, polite well educated mid-westerners. It has some of the best healthcare in the country and people are progressive and liberal. But it has a very marginalized Somali population and it’s police force has multiple instances of police brutality towards blacks in particular. When a city like Minneapolis has a problems then you know the problem countrywide is huge.
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You do realise that more people have died as a result of these riots, that started as a protest to.... a murder?

Do you not see a contradiction in this.
Its also 29 years since Rodney King died. Have the Police learned from that?

Have they learned from all the other occurrences where black people have been killed for no reason by the Police?

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I see the demonstration in London in support of George Floyd is taking place. Certainly I understand the sentiment as to why. However in the current circumstances the lack of policing i will say wrong way in the current circumstances. Risking losing support for a justifiable cause.
Why are Brits demonstrating about the police force in the USA?
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I see the demonstration in London in support of George Floyd is taking place. Certainly I understand the sentiment as to why. However in the current circumstances the lack of policing i will say wrong way in the current circumstances. Risking losing support for a justifiable cause.
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