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Warnock: No bids for any youngsters

4:04pm Thursday 9th July 2009

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Crystal Palace manager Neil Warnock has revealed he has received no enquiries for any of his star youngsters this summers, rubbishing reports Wigan Athletic are about to swoop for Victor Moses.

New Latics boss Roberto Martinez was said to have made strong enquiries about the 18-year-old and was considering a £2.5m move for the winger, who has decided to travel with the Eagles to America this week rather than play in the European U19 Championships for England.

"Last time he came back he didn't really get going until Christmas so he wants to do better this year."
Neil Warnock

When last season finished it looked like Palace would face a battle to hold on to teenage prodigies Moses, Nathaniel Clyne and Sean Scannell but the expected offers have not materialised.

"We have had no enquiries this week for any of our players," said Warnock.

"And there has been nothing about the young lads all summer, not even a phone call."

Warnock also revealed that Moses was given the choice whether to go with England or travel with Palace out to America this week, and chose to stick with his team mates.

"He's not going to the European Championships with England but is coming to America with us," said Warnock.

"He was given the option for what he wanted to do but he knows he has a real chance this year of establishing himself in the first team.

"Last time he came back he didn't really get going until Christmas so he wants to do better this year."
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Brilliant news. Well done Victor for making what, imo, is the right choice missing the Euros. It seems like his head is in the right place (focused on Palace and the coming season rather than a yearly youth tournament - albeit an internaltional one.) Palace will benefit from this as will Victor.

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Great lad, really showing his maturity and that he knows what is needed, for both palace (who have looked after him) and his long-term future...if he does what we all think he is capable of this season who knows what his future holds...its his oyster. Just hope he is as good as we hope :-) Stick him upfront Neil!!
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What has he achieved that makes him worth over £2.5 mil?

He's shown flashes of brilliance, along with flashes of 'not interested'. He's had as many bad gamnes as he has had good and certainly hasnt scored many goals at senior level. With questions about his attitude as well i dont see why he would be worth a huge amount more as things stand
Simple answer; Has he shown that he is a lesser talent than Ramsey? Or Walcott? Remember, both of those players didn't play a second season in the Championship where they were marked and studied men. I think Moses impact in his first season is comparable to either. So, I price him accordingly.
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Victor is a goal-scorer and is wasted on the wing.
Play him in a central striking role and then you will see his true value and realize that the offers being bandied about by the media are way off of the mark.
His goals scored at Youth International level show what a great prospect he is and it was some achievement to win the Golden Boot Award at the Youth European Championship and score 3 goals at the Youth World Cup before he was forced out of the tournament by injury.

The way forward is not to sell our future stars as some fans would like us to do.
These players have shown commitment by signing Pro contracts with the club and the fans need to realize this and allow these youngsters to establish themselves in the team and not jump on their backs at every mistake that they may make on the pitch.
Victor was only able to play a bit-part role last season due to suffering niggling injuries and his pre-season was wrecked after he was injured on international duty playing for England Youth.
It is a credit to Crystal Palace that we have so many Youth internationals and because we are not a fashionable club in the media's eyes they feel that it is wrong that they play for us, as woe betide we are only a Championship club and not one of their blue-eyed boys in the Premiership !!!
I agree with this statement.

Lets see how he does in his more natural position, before we sell him on the cheap.

I think overall Moses has done fairly well, being played on the wing, but am looking forward to see him play up front if we revert to 4-4-2.

However if we get a good offer then he will be off, but I dont think 2.5m is a good offer.
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More crap paper talk trying to unsettle our pre-season ...I think it's a great that Victor has given the Englnd U19's the Spanish Archer and wants to go with the lads to USA...Good attitude from a talented young player who we have brought through the ranks and now finally it looks like he is about to get his chance to show what he can do injury free for the club that have nurtured him ...I Hope
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Brilliant news. Well done Victor for making what, imo, is the right choice missing the Euros. It seems like his head is in the right place (focused on Palace and the coming season rather than a yearly youth tournament - albeit an internaltional one.) Palace will benefit from this as will Victor.
Or he is making sure that he will not pick up an injury that would mess up a transfer?

If Wigan or anybody has put an offer on the table for £2.5 million for an unproven player we should bite their hands off. The money could be invested in a couple of players which would see us put in a promotion challenge.

For the older ones of us selling Johnny Byrne and Alan Stephenson 40 plus years ago for then record fees seemed crazy. However the money we gained financed two vital promotions in the clubs history.

To be honest I would be more upset if Scannel were sold than Victor.
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I don't think I have seen many players in the Premiership lately with the natural talent of Victor Moses. Moses is a long way from being effective every game, but, then again he is 18 1/2. I believe that Moses will go all the way and be a huge star. It would be crazy to sell him for as little as 5m. Just my opinion.
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He is by no means the next Wayne Rooney, but he certainly could play for England in many games, ala Peter Crouch. Play him where you're supposed to, like Rooney, and where he wants to play, you will get the best out of him. Rooney plays on the left, and he's only as good as Matt Etherington imho. Play them down the middle, and they become match winners.
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I don't think I have seen many players in the Premiership lately with the natural talent of Victor Moses. Moses is a long way from being effective every game, but, then again he is 18 1/2. I believe that Moses will go all the way and be a huge star. It would be crazy to sell him for as little as 5m. Just my opinion.
I agree with you,but people on here think it would be a good deal if we get 2.5 million for him not 5 million. Christ 5 million even I could not arque his case if we got that upfront.
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As I said on a previous thread our club does not have a pot to piss in. All summer long they have hawked like a door to door salesman every player we have at the club , today is the first bite.

No one is more disapointed then me I think Moses when played in his rightful position will be a star but we are skint and can't pay the wages!!

Having followed this club for over 40 years what i find most distressing is the fact that we are now smaller than nonentities like Wigan. It is only 1979 that we were the sixth best supported club in the country and here we are now hawing our best players to anyone with some spare cash
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Well Sky are saying that Wigan have bid 2 million+ for jason Scotland, which has been accepted, so I can't see them forking out for Moses as well.
£5 million plus on 2 untried champoinship forwards is unlikely.
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Well Sky are saying that Wigan have bid 2 million+ for jason Scotland, which has been accepted, so I can't see them forking out for Moses as well.
£5 million plus on 2 untried champoinship forwards is unlikely.
Though I see your point and hope your right they just got 16mill for valencia and got quite a bit for Palacios recently so I dont think money is an issue! However I beleive they would have to pay a minimum of 4 mill and I dont see anyone taking that chance, as though he has shown flashes of brilliance last year was very stop start for him imho.
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Well Sky are saying that Wigan have bid 2 million+ for jason Scotland, which has been accepted, so I can't see them forking out for Moses as well.
£5 million plus on 2 untried champoinship forwards is unlikely.
Not so much really when they have just got 15million for one player. Plus the wages by premier standards they have to pay will be low.

Anyway Warnock has said that there have been no bids so it is just paper talk.
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Well Sky are saying that Wigan have bid 2 million+ for jason Scotland, which has been accepted, so I can't see them forking out for Moses as well.
£5 million plus on 2 untried champoinship forwards is unlikely.
nice one. Sell them Lee.
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Old 09-07-2009, 07:52 PM
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What has he achieved that makes him worth over £2.5 mil?

He's shown flashes of brilliance, along with flashes of 'not interested'. He's had as many bad gamnes as he has had good and certainly hasnt scored many goals at senior level. With questions about his attitude as well i dont see why he would be worth a huge amount more as things stand
Sounds like a Scotish striker we had, who during the beginning and ending of his career displayed the same qualities Difference being Moses has alot more potential
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