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cant believe there is a debate about it. IF, we have a future and IF clinton will come to us on wages that fit in with that future then how can anyone not want him back. free transfer and as mentioned sensible wages, we would not be able to attract a better striker in our position for this league on terms we can/will offer (assuming we are a tight ship in the future). this is just in terms of ability, add to that clinton is a palace man and is driven to be our top striker... its win win if the terms are right surely.
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Our youngsters are admirably supported already, and Palace do not require a waning journeyman babysitter. As has been stated on this forum previously Morrison didnt always have a positive effect on the youngsters.
His effect on Sinclair and Moses seemed pretty positive to me
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I'm like him. I don't love him like I love Dougie but he's up there.

Would I like to see him back here? Sure. While those who dislike him may not see it, he loves to play for us. EO.
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Morrison has a record of scoring 10+ goals every season in the Championship for various clubs over a number of years. Not many freebies around who can claim that.
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Morrison has a record of scoring 10+ goals every season in the Championship for various clubs over a number of years. Not many freebies around who can claim that.
How many season's has he not been the top scorer? Only AJ outscored him once at Palace I think and at Brum he played so little, Coventry this year, and last.
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Morrison has a record of scoring 10+ goals every season in the Championship for various clubs over a number of years. Not many freebies around who can claim that.
He was paid 10K a week at Coventry and failed to deliver.

We don't want to go back to the days of journeyman players again.
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His effect on Sinclair and Moses seemed pretty positive to me
+1.

After the way he encouraged David Martin and Sean Scannell on there debuts, he roared on the players around him when we were building momentum, and his persistent shouting at the likes of Darren Ward everytime they had a go at a player less experienced than them I don't see how people can come to the conclusion that he wasn't a good influence. His love for the club seemed to rub off well on the players as well.
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You all talk about how he helped the young players on the pitch etc. but my overriding memory of Clinton on the pitch was him whining and moaning. HE scored a good few goals but certainly on ability alone wouldn't make it as a legend in the way that some players have (ie. by being so good they cannot be ignored).

The other thing I have always considered is that when he returned to the club after our relegation to the Championship, there was a distinct change that season in the atmosphere within the team on the pitch and that seemed to coincide with what was a disappointing season. Was that down to Clinton? No obviously not. But could his attitude on and off the field as a major difference in the squad have contributed to it? I've always wondered.

The vast majority seem to view Clinton as a favourite so I guess it isn't my place to pass judgement. But I personally disagree.
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You all talk about how he helped the young players on the pitch etc. but my overriding memory of Clinton on the pitch was him whining and moaning. HE scored a good few goals but certainly on ability alone wouldn't make it as a legend in the way that some players have (ie. by being so good they cannot be ignored).

The other thing I have always considered is that when he returned to the club after our relegation to the Championship, there was a distinct change that season in the atmosphere within the team on the pitch and that seemed to coincide with what was a disappointing season. Was that down to Clinton? No obviously not. But could his attitude on and off the field as a major difference in the squad have contributed to it? I've always wondered.

The vast majority seem to view Clinton as a favourite so I guess it isn't my place to pass judgement. But I personally disagree.
I agree with you to an extent, when Peter Taylor came in and there was talk about Clinton being our main double figure hitter and a club leader I had my doubts, but in my opinion Peter Taylor and Neil Warnock both trying to undermine Clinton's impact on the pitch were there biggest mistakes when they were manager. The players they chose to replace him may have had the ability potentially (Kuqi, Idrijaz, Dickov, Lee, John, Beattie, Seares etc.) but they didn't have the swagger or charisma that Clinton had that put him head and shoulders above the rest.
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You all talk about how he helped the young players on the pitch etc. but my overriding memory of Clinton on the pitch was him whining and moaning. HE scored a good few goals but certainly on ability alone wouldn't make it as a legend in the way that some players have (ie. by being so good they cannot be ignored).

The other thing I have always considered is that when he returned to the club after our relegation to the Championship, there was a distinct change that season in the atmosphere within the team on the pitch and that seemed to coincide with what was a disappointing season. Was that down to Clinton? No obviously not. But could his attitude on and off the field as a major difference in the squad have contributed to it? I've always wondered.

The vast majority seem to view Clinton as a favourite so I guess it isn't my place to pass judgement. But I personally disagree.
So you're saying that it was his fault we didn't go straight back up? Save it.

He never moaned, he was just passionate for the cause. Every time he made a run that wasn't found, he made sure that the players looked up and tried to make a pass the next time. He didn't moan. Warnock moaned. There was and is a difference.
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So you're saying that it was his fault we didn't go straight back up? Save it.

He never moaned, he was just passionate for the cause. Every time he made a run that wasn't found, he made sure that the players looked up and tried to make a pass the next time. He didn't moan. Warnock moaned. There was and is a difference.
No, I clearly said that it wasn't the reason (clearly) but I wonder whether it was a contributing factor to the change in atmosphere in the dressing room which subsequently contributed to our below expected performance.

I don't know whether we were watching a different player but he constantly moaned throughout his time, though less in his last year with Warnock. At other players, the opposition, linesmen, refs etc. That was the main reason I started to dislike him.



And Aaron, I actually agree with you that they could have used Morrison better and actually think that to say that the players you listed, perhaps bar Beattie, could replace him is unfair to Clinton who (don't get me wrong) is a good and useful player.
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Warnock effectively threw the 08/09 season by getting rid. ( I know.... He offered him a contract, blah, blah, blah )

If he came back for decent wages then would have him back like a shot.

Some people will never like him. And I will never undestand that, Yes he is an emotional lad and that sometimes he was his own worst enemy. But he scored goals for Palace. Not many players have found that easy to do.

Anyway we dont have an owner or manager so without these we are not in the running.
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Our youngsters are admirably supported already, and Palace do not require a waning journeyman babysitter. As has been stated on this forum previously Morrison didnt always have a positive effect on the youngsters.
I have to disagree with you in terms of playing in the first team I have not seen this season what anyone who watched the season with Moses and Sinclair and Clinton would clearly see the influence that Clinton had....
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Our youngsters are admirably supported already, and Palace do not require a waning journeyman babysitter. As has been stated on this forum previously Morrison didnt always have a positive effect on the youngsters.
i used to spend time at the training ground every day of the week and simply just cannot describe the effects that Clinton and dougie have on the players off the field - they are immense

Say what you want about the merits of his performance on a Saturday, but having regularly seen two of our most prolific ever strikers nuture, coach and encourage the kids I can safely say that your post is a million miles wide of the mark
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After the way he encouraged David Martin and Sean Scannell on there debuts, he roared on the players around him when we were building momentum, and his persistent shouting at the likes of Darren Ward everytime they had a go at a player less experienced than them I don't see how people can come to the conclusion that he wasn't a good influence. His love for the club seemed to rub off well on the players as well.
3 Players where underperforming is the common point, or can you name one of those that have benefited from his....... er advice??
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No, I clearly said that it wasn't the reason (clearly) but I wonder whether it was a contributing factor to the change in atmosphere in the dressing room which subsequently contributed to our below expected performance.

I don't know whether we were watching a different player but he constantly moaned throughout his time, though less in his last year with Warnock. At other players, the opposition, linesmen, refs etc. That was the main reason I started to dislike him.



And Aaron, I actually agree with you that they could have used Morrison better and actually think that to say that the players you listed, perhaps bar Beattie, could replace him is unfair to Clinton who (don't get me wrong) is a good and useful player.
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Endless nonsense
What on earth is at the root of your problem with an indisputable Palace legend?
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He was paid 10K a week at Coventry and failed to deliver.

We don't want to go back to the days of journeyman players again.
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