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Old 29-07-2013, 08:06 AM
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On a hair-coiffeurage level, I'd say 'no'.

On a footballing level...no idea.

I hope that helps in the debate.
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We can't start getting picky.

This guy has international pedigree and performing well for Arsenal and Crystal Palace are two completley different things (Although he did has an uninspiring spell at West Ham...).

This guy or Wilbs? Its a no brainer.
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In what way is this any better than Carlton Cole?
Carlton Cole was a peramaant signing so we would be liable for 100% of his wages (which were clearly too much for us)

Chamakh would be a loan and we would only pay an agreed %

One has already been discounted, one is a possibility (if the rumour is true)

Nothing do do with nationality, which you appear obsessed by
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Old 29-07-2013, 08:19 AM
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Carlton Cole was a peramaant signing so we would be liable for 100% of his wages (which were clearly too much for us)

Chamakh would be a loan and we would only pay an agreed %

One has already been discounted, one is a possibility (if the rumour is true)

Nothing do do with nationality, which you appear obsessed by
As a loan, there's a lot to like about this.

Firstly, we can forget about the whole 'sell on value' bit, because he wouldn't be ours to sell on - though, I would be inclined to insert an 'option to sign in January', if he does tear things up.

Wages - if we reached an agreement with Arsenal to pay, say, 50% of his wages then, factoring the likely lack of a loan fee (he'll be nowhere near the Arsenal first team, and perhaps won't even get a squad number), then it becomes more of an 'investment in survival' than 'pissing money away'.

He has an obvious pedigree (and I have seen him play 5-6 times), and you can tell there's a good player in there, but West Ham (who, sadly, at the moment are a better side than we), didn't play to his strengths. We most likely would.

Better than what we have, and at 30k a week and no loan fee, this would make me pretty happy.
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On a loan, it's a no brainer for me.

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Thought it was a very good signing when West Ham brought him in last season. Was surprised that he flopped there too... and that would concern me about us trying to bring him in.
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Old 29-07-2013, 08:26 AM
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Is he better than what we've got? Yes. Worth a punt for 6 months.
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Re his move to West Ham

He started 2 games and one as sub in January, then never played again

Do we have any idea why?
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Better than Wilbraham? Yes.

International pedigree.

Didn't do it at arsenal but doing it for us is very different. Worth a punt I'd say.
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Old 29-07-2013, 08:28 AM
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Old 29-07-2013, 08:28 AM
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He started 2 games and one as sub in January, then never played again

Do we have any idea why?
I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest it has something to do with Big Sam being an odious ****.

It could of course be something else, but let's face it, that is always a high possibility.
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Carlton Cole was a peramaant signing so we would be liable for 100% of his wages (which were clearly too much for us)

Chamakh would be a loan and we would only pay an agreed %

One has already been discounted, one is a possibility (if the rumour is true)

Nothing do do with nationality, which you appear obsessed by
It's not me that's obsessed with nationality, it's 99% of people in football.

Look at the way Man Utd pub fans slagged of Fletcher, until the papers told them he was good.

It's the same with a lot of our fans. Elmander and Chamakh are considered decent signings, but the unfashionabe Cartlon Cole was met with general derision.
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Maybe just needs someone to help him reignite his love for the game. Sometimes as a player you do just fall out of love with playing football.
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Is he better than what we've got? Yes. Worth a punt for 6 months.
We have three forwards, two who are under 39 years old. By that logic you would be a decent signing, it doesn't mean we should settle.
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It's not me that's obsessed with nationality, it's 99% of people in football.

Look at the way Man Utd pub fans slagged of Fletcher, until the papers told them he was good.

It's the same with a lot of our fans. Elmander and Chamakh are considered decent signings, but the unfashionabe Cartlon Cole was met with general derision.
I completely understand what you're saying, and we all do love the exotic (even if 80% of the time, they turn out to be utterly useless).

However, Carlton Cole, for me, is one of those players that you just look at and think 'meh'. Like Emille Heskey. You know he can do a job, but it's not the exact job that you need done.

Plus, Chamakh has that whole continental flair thing going on.
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It's not me that's obsessed with nationality, it's 99% of people in football.

Look at the way Man Utd pub fans slagged of Fletcher, until the papers told them he was good.

It's the same with a lot of our fans. Elmander and Chamakh are considered decent signings, but the unfashionabe Cartlon Cole was met with general derision.
Like that Foreigner Darren Ambrose I guess

What a load of shit he was......
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Reeks of desperation. He has been a total flop since he came to England.
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It's not me that's obsessed with nationality, it's 99% of people in football.

Look at the way Man Utd pub fans slagged of Fletcher, until the papers told them he was good.

It's the same with a lot of our fans. Elmander and Chamakh are considered decent signings, but the unfashionabe Cartlon Cole was met with general derision.
Doesn't help that when you watch our national team, 80% of our opposition are clearly technically better
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