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Old 29-07-2013, 08:35 AM
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It's not me that's obsessed with nationality, it's 99% of people in football.

Look at the way Man Utd pub fans slagged of Fletcher, until the papers told them he was good.

It's the same with a lot of our fans. Elmander and Chamakh are considered decent signings, but the unfashionabe Cartlon Cole was met with general derision.
but Carlton Cole as a name is actually a good name, it's more his limited touch and finishing ability, for 40k aweek which worried people

I think most would rather good old english name Charlie Austin than Chamakh, as he is young with a strong scoring record.

Naff all to do with the name imo
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A 5 month loan with Arsenal paying 2/3rds of his wages makes sense. It covers us till Muzza gets back, Arsenal have him playing regularly rather than warming their bench and if he scores a few they can demand a half decent fee in the January window from a club that can afford his wage demands.
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Like that Foreigner Darren Ambrose I guess

What a load of shit he was......
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It is no shame to fail at Arsenal. The expectations are ridiculously high. He played a lot and well at first and then after about 4/5 months mysteriously lost his edge and hardly played again. Arsenal have had several players who were notorously over paid and who they have been trying to get rid of for ages and indeed at last most of them have left this summer. I cannot believe Arsenal would expect us to pay even half of his reported wages. He could be great for us - but not in the team that turned up last Saturday. We need to work on linking the midfield with the attack better.
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but Carlton Cole as a name is actually a good name, it's more his limited touch and finishing ability, for 40k aweek which worried people

I think most would rather good old english name Charlie Austin than Chamakh, as he is young with a strong scoring record.

Naff all to do with the name imo
But for some reason it doesn't bother people that Chamkh has not proven to be great in these areas either, but people are already drawing up wage pstructures and potential 'option to buy' clauses.
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Would be a very good signing. I'd prefer Elmander, though.
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A 5 month loan with Arsenal paying 2/3rds of his wages makes sense. It covers us till Muzza gets back, Arsenal have him playing regularly rather than warming their bench and if he scores a few they can demand a half decent fee in the January window from a club that can afford his wage demands.
I think its wrong to assume Murray will come back in January, we shouldnt really plan to see Murray at all this season. If we do its a bonus.
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He was class during his first season at Arsenal, that form never returned. My Arsenal mate is dying for us to take him off of their wage bill, says that he is an incredibly lazy player who plays with no passion or pride. No thanks
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Working on an assumption that Murray will be back around January......

Chamakh even paying all his wages would represent a £1.7m outlay for that period.

If we then signed him given his final year of contract and Arsenal wanting rid, it would only be if he was proving his ability and the fee would be low, and we might get his wages down a bit.

Signing Austin would involve a fee of £3-4m plus wages, probably around £20k+ a week on a 4 year deal. If he does have an underlying issue that will rule him out for large parts is he value for money when the package will cost you £7-8m?
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I've got a cab driving Arsenal fan in my road and he has an off the pitch story (he tells me its first hand but who knows) about why this guy lost his form so badly. Can't repeat it on here but if true I can see why it would have distracted him. Its no Marlon King story and wouldn't neccesarily put me off having him at my club if he scored the goals but would certainly explain why his confidence went.
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I've got a cab driving Arsenal fan in my road and he has an off the pitch story (he tells me its first hand but who knows) about why this guy lost his form so badly. Can't repeat it on here but if true I can see why it would have distracted him. Its no Marlon King story and wouldn't neccesarily put me off having him at my club if he scored the goals but would certainly explain why his confidence went.
Did SC bum rape him in the changing rooms?
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That's signing chamackh not the sol Campbell bit ...
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He was class during his first season at Arsenal, that form never returned. My Arsenal mate is dying for us to take him off of their wage bill, says that he is an incredibly lazy player who plays with no passion or pride. No thanks
He scored eight goals in his first season.

In fact, his record at Bordeux was only around 1/5...
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WRONG unless we are looking for another forward that can't find the net, in which case Yay Chamakh
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I can't help thinking there is no reason why i should not want Chamakh. However if it were Hull or Cardiff potentially making this addition i would certainly not be jealous. He probably isn't as bad as his form at arsenal appears but I cannot see him making sufficient difference to our chances to warrant the spend.
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He scored eight goals in his first season.

In fact, his record at Bordeux was only around 1/5...
Apologies then,he looked class, but has gone missing for the last two or three seasons.

Go lower leagues or abroad and pick out one who scores every week. Having a 'potential' to score goals is not what we need. Failing that, I'm off down to the local park to practice keepy-ups, in the hope that Holloway might spot me. I'll even break a leg if I have to, as he seems to have a liking for the injured ones.

Jordan Rhodes please. Be brave and take a gamble. Scores every week. We've not spent a great deal so far, so jump in and make a splash.

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He scored eight goals in his first season.

In fact, his record at Bordeux was only around 1/5...
That is 8 goals a season. Who would you fancy in our team to hit double figures for the season?
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