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I refuse to get excited about a player who managed to hit the post with the ball on the goal line which then rebounded and smashed him in his dial

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As far as i can see he has a similar record to a player we already have, who will be fit in January. Its a pointless signing. As for rubbishing him...once again, I'm just using the facts of the matter that, since he left Marseille and apart from one decent run in Germany, has struggled for goals. If he can't improve us then its pointless.

As for putting words in your mouth, i only simplified what you'd already said dear heart.
Lol, stop trying to be patronising. It's quite embarrassing for an old man. I agree it's not worth getting a player that can't improve us. I just think you have unrealistic expectations about what we are able to get, and I also disagree that he wouldn't improve us. We're allowed to have different opinions without you getting precious and pretending people are upset.
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Old 12-12-2018, 02:56 PM
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And which clubs will be willing to sell an in form striker to us?
As much as from what I can see you're struggling for an argument today, I'll just mention a few players I have suggested before:

Alfred Finnbogason - Augsburg (7 goals in 8 games)
Luka Jovic - Frankfurt (15 in 19)
Sébastien Haller - Frankfurt (11 in 21)
Joelinton - Hoffenheim (8 in 20)

...and that's just 3 clubs in Germany with in form Strikers. There is no point getting yet another non-scoring striker in, unless of course you can see something in Batshuayi where you think he's being played out of position and is going to start banging them in for us when he's played somewhere else..?

The chance to move from a team falling out of Champions League to the Premier League, higher exposure, potentially higher wages to a team who SHOULD be aiming for top 10 might be quite appealing, not to mention the fact that he's almost guaranteed to be starting a the moment.
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As much as from what I can see you're struggling for an argument today, I'll just mention a few players I have suggested before:

Alfred Finnbogason - Augsburg (7 goals in 8 games)
Luka Jovic - Frankfurt (15 in 19)
Sébastien Haller - Frankfurt (11 in 21)
Joelinton - Hoffenheim (8 in 20)

...and that's just 3 clubs in Germany with in form Strikers. There is no point getting yet another non-scoring striker in, unless of course you can see something in Batshuayi where you think he's being played out of position and is going to start banging them in for us when he's played somewhere else..?

The chance to move from a team falling out of Champions League to the Premier League, higher exposure, potentially higher wages to a team who SHOULD be aiming for top 10 might be quite appealing, not to mention the fact that he's almost guaranteed to be starting a the moment.
Thank you for providing a much more useful response than Maidstone which doesn't try to be patronising.

I 100% agree we shouldn't be getting in an out of form striker. I do think Michy is better than the strikers we currently have at our disposal (which I don't think is hard). He's better than Sorloth, less broken than Wickham (who I do rate if he is ever fit) and in my view better than a horribly out of form and bereft of confidence Benteke. Whether Michy would start banging in goals is another matter, but I do think he is better than what we have.

As for your four, I can't say I know enough about them to pass judgment. I also can't comment on whether they would be willing to come here. However, I don't think we can rely on the "should" be going for top 10. There are a number of clubs that want to be in that brackett / think they should be there, but we still end up in a relegation scrap time and time again. Maybe there would be a payrise,

But that leaves the question, are these clubs going to sell an in form first team starter in January at a price WE will be willing to buy? I would suggest not.
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I'd take him, purely on the basis that it will anger Maidstoned.

(And that he's 15 years younger than Defoe).
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Apparently Valencia want to cancel his loan from Chelsea, meaning he could be available again in January.

3 in 18 for them, so not great by any means, but we're desperate and I reckon he could suit our system.
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Old 12-12-2018, 03:53 PM
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Andre Silva is at Sevilla. off point but I would love us to sign him, thought i suspect he would be way out of our price range and have little interest in joining us. Valencia have Rodrigo (in the Spain squad) and Gameiro.
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I don't think he did particularly well at Chelsea....you know, that team in the Premiership...the same league we play in....
7 goals I the equivalent of 6.5 games?

Just how high are your expectations?

( He has also mainly been a substitute in Spain)
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Andre Silva is at Sevilla. off point but I would love us to sign him, thought i suspect he would be way out of our price range and have little interest in joining us. Valencia have Rodrigo (in the Spain squad) and Gameiro.
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It all comes down to whether this guy could do better than what we have and, assuming Wickham stays injured and that we can't rely on Benteke, he can't be any worse. A loan prevents a big outlay and maybe even allows us to sign another, relatively cheap striker to give another option, with Sorloth loaned out since he is clearly unfancied, right or wrong. Has to be a no-brainer on the assumption we don't have £40M lying around.
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And where did i say that? Please,show me oh wise one.

i was pointing out the foolishness of wanting a player that has a record no better than what we already have.
But clearly his record is better than what we have....you are comparing him too Benteke who is just one of our strikers, who despite his recent dip, is still the best striker we have available by a long way and still good enough without his goals to help us as a team improve on our current form.

Foolish to want Batschuyi yet watch us having to use Sorloth or Ayew....
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1 goal in 11 is better than our current "striker(s)"
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Apparently Valencia want to cancel his loan from Chelsea, meaning he could be available again in January.

3 in 18 for them, so not great by any means, but we're desperate and I reckon he could suit our system.
Palace offered £30,000000 for him 2 seasons ago and when the deal was nearly agreed Chelsea came in and he signed for them.
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Then we got Benteke.
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At least he gets in the positions (like Benteke) unlike Sorloth and Ayew that just stroll around and create nothing nor cause any problems to the opponent. Eventually, a player that misses chances, won’t.
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Would rather have Defoe for half a season tbh. Probably cost the same, and he will line up well with Benteke when he's back.
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