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Old 11-08-2021, 10:33 PM
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The profit is in how they exit.

Anyhow, at least this explains where the cash for the transfers was coming from.
We all know how it ends
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Quite happy with this. Anyone that invests in a football club either has A) money to burn B) a love for the game or c) completely mental. Fits all the criteria.
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No. I would think that new shares will be created so that the money goes directly to the Company (club) rather than the current owners.
Yeah, new shares created at the current value; if the current directors consider that the value of the club has risen by 25% over the last 4 years for example, then they divide that by four (including Mr Textor) and offer a share/shares at around that rated value.

It would appear that the value of our club is rising so there is more revenue or potential revenue available for a new investors.

It's a bit of a complex answer to be honest and takes into account, assets, potential future earnings, as well as agreed investment in infrastrucutre shared across the board.

Throw it into a pot, and you come up with a magic number. which clearly Mr T is on board with.

Hoping that the gamesmanship (i.e. he's helped us buy these players rather than the fact that there may be more revenue for players) works well if this is the case and if there is additional revenue for players, playing our hand well will continue to provide value as the window approaches it's conclusion.
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You seem to be missing the point that he owns 25% of Benfica as well. Why would he poach players from them in favour of us?
To put them in the shop window of a more highly-regarded league. Apparently.
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Old 11-08-2021, 10:47 PM
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Full of Blitz, Textor and Harris
Blitz, Textor and Parish...

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Old 11-08-2021, 10:48 PM
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Parish’s statement said that Textor has already invested huge sums of money to help bolster the squad so don’t expect much more cash from him if he has already invested huge sums!
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Old 11-08-2021, 10:53 PM
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After the attempted EFL bullshit, not sure I want to see more Yanks anywhere near football, let alone our club. We know how they think. Hopefully, this is the one American investor willing to put in more than the minimum to protect his investment. It also makes Harris and Blizter's contributions look far less generous to this window than we may have thought.

But I guess we can't turn up our nose at a time like this. Hope we don't regret it later.
Hah. They are looking to improve the value of their investment with their current/future plans. They ain't here for a quick buck, it ain't going to happen. SP is too savvy and has played a blinder from an outsiders far distant POV. The club is shaping up nicely for the future IMO.
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Old 11-08-2021, 10:56 PM
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Ok yeah as before makes sense, but sure essentially UK based investment is 50% and US is 50% that’s what I’m trying to work out.
Money has been invested at different stages of the clubs growth, so it doesn't really work like that. Money invested in 2010 (minimal) grew in value as we have grown in stature (!?), so a shareholding of a given value is at a multiple of what it would have been then.

Finance stuff.
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Hope so but I'm not sure how Parish can maintain that with an ever diminishing stake in the club. Not that I am an expert on such matters.
If he is adding investment as has been reported, then why should his stake-holding be diminishing necessarily?
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All I wrote was that I am less than happy at the general conduct of American investors in football and less than impressed at how they have allowed our squad to denigrate to the point that it has. If you feel the need to defend them, then that is you rightful POV.
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Would have thought Parish, Blizter and Harris would dilute at the same rate.
Indeed, it would be balanced if this was the case and it may well be so.

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Old 11-08-2021, 11:07 PM
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Its a shame we don't have the 50+1 setup from the Bundesliga. Always thought the Supporters Trust missed a trick by not acquiring a permanent stake in the club.
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Old 11-08-2021, 11:09 PM
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I almost feel sorry for Steve P as a relative pauper in their company!
Oh, he's not. As far as CPFC goes, his stake-holding has increased ten-fold if not more, as envisaged on paper.
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Why do people on here take the piss on people's spelling etc.. We're all different and not all super educated but we support and love our club. Find it very annoying back to the point in question this seems a really good move he comes across really well. After watching tonight moreno from villa Real would be great very intelligent player.. But that funny lot are having kittens with all that's happening at the palace.
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Why do people on here take the piss on people's spelling etc.. We're all different and not all super educated but we support and love our club. Find it very annoying back to the point in question this seems a really good move he comes across really well. After watching tonight moreno from villa Real would be great very intelligent player.. But that funny lot are having kittens with all that's happening at the palace.
it's not about misspelling, it's about using of the wrong word.

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Indeed, it would be balanced if this was the case and it may well be so.

We'll find out when it's reported at CH.
Very hard to get an exact picture of our ownership structure, not enough info at CH!
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I think he only owns 10% of it.
$450m isn't enough for a 10% share in Palace We Want MOAAAAR!
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Its a shame we don't have the 50+1 setup from the Bundesliga. Always thought the Supporters Trust missed a trick by not acquiring a permanent stake in the club.
Agreed I think in should be mandatory for all across 4 divisions to have at least 25% fan ownership. Would help stop breakaways and future dodgy investment.
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Very hard to get an exact picture of our ownership structure, not enough info at CH!
Indeed; and when the HoldCo is in Delaware, it's a lot more tricky!
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