Home | Forums | Gallery | Twitter
 
CPFC BBS  

Go Back   CPFC BBS » Crystal Palace Football Club » Transfer Hotline

Notices

Transfer Hotline Latest transfer news, rumours and suggestions for new Palace players. Includes outgoing transfers and news on released players.

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #101  
Old 21-01-2020, 11:50 AM
GreatGonzo's Avatar
GreatGonzo GreatGonzo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 63,522
Rep Power: 21474857
GreatGonzo Sam the man is hereGreatGonzo Sam the man is hereGreatGonzo Sam the man is hereGreatGonzo Sam the man is hereGreatGonzo Sam the man is hereGreatGonzo Sam the man is hereGreatGonzo Sam the man is hereGreatGonzo Sam the man is hereGreatGonzo Sam the man is hereGreatGonzo Sam the man is hereGreatGonzo Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nth Kent Eagle View Post
I doubt it. It's a million or two prize money for each place in the league. Given the probable current profit maximisation strategy of the owners at the moment i cannot seeing them risking anything.
Find AWB earned us £50m, if you finished 5 places higher for 6 seasons you still don't quite get there.

Has to be a balance between league position and giving young players a chance at this level.
  #102  
Old 21-01-2020, 12:07 PM
Celestial Empire Celestial Empire is offline
Celestial Empire
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 22,648
Rep Power: 21474856
Celestial Empire Sam the man is hereCelestial Empire Sam the man is hereCelestial Empire Sam the man is hereCelestial Empire Sam the man is hereCelestial Empire Sam the man is hereCelestial Empire Sam the man is hereCelestial Empire Sam the man is hereCelestial Empire Sam the man is hereCelestial Empire Sam the man is hereCelestial Empire Sam the man is hereCelestial Empire Sam the man is here
QUOTE=GreatGonzo;15071040]Find AWB earned us £50m, if you finished 5 places higher for 6 seasons you still don't quite get there.

Has to be a balance between league position and giving young players a chance at this level.[/QUOTE]

Two of our main shareholders want out, talks with potential bidders are allegedly ongoing.
It is in everyone's interest to present the club as having lots of potential, "shovel ready" projects and upwardly mobile league progression.
It's probably that simple.

And the doubts about RH's new contract ? If you expect new owners, they are likely to demand a say on who is manager. SP shouldn't really have much trouble in persuading new owners to give RH a nice new contract, considering his fine record.

EDIT: Whacking the Scouse might clinch it !

Last edited by Celestial Empire; 21-01-2020 at 12:13 PM.
  #103  
Old 21-01-2020, 12:33 PM
Jim Cannon's Avatar
Jim Cannon Jim Cannon is offline
I DON'T look like SJ
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Wapping
Age: 50
Posts: 48,615
Rep Power: 21474853
Jim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Empire View Post
If you expect new owners, they are likely to demand a say on who is manager. SP shouldn't really have much trouble in persuading new owners to give RH a nice new contract, considering his fine record.
Depends on the owners, they might go all big time and think they can bring in some foreign coach or whatever and get us playing like Barca. Or, they give RH a contract and as soon as he loses a couple he is out
  #104  
Old 21-01-2020, 12:37 PM
Jim Cannon's Avatar
Jim Cannon Jim Cannon is offline
I DON'T look like SJ
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Wapping
Age: 50
Posts: 48,615
Rep Power: 21474853
Jim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is hereJim Cannon Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreatGonzo View Post
Find AWB earned us £50m, if you finished 5 places higher for 6 seasons you still don't quite get there.

Has to be a balance between league position and giving young players a chance at this level.
Hasn't been the case here though has it. AWB only got his chance in an injury crisis, if nobody had got injured he could have been released by now. Also, if it wasn't for him getting shifted from the wing to Full back he would be thought of as a winger nowhere near good enough to play for us.....
  #105  
Old 21-01-2020, 12:41 PM
dave_who_ru's Avatar
dave_who_ru dave_who_ru is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: South London la la la
Posts: 12,589
Rep Power: 21474857
dave_who_ru Sam the man is heredave_who_ru Sam the man is heredave_who_ru Sam the man is heredave_who_ru Sam the man is heredave_who_ru Sam the man is heredave_who_ru Sam the man is heredave_who_ru Sam the man is heredave_who_ru Sam the man is heredave_who_ru Sam the man is heredave_who_ru Sam the man is heredave_who_ru Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash View Post
Is it? Im not alarmed. Its quite high but not crazy high.
Based on the named squads in September the oldest are:

Burnley 28.8
Palace 28.7
West Ham 28.4
Liverpool 27.9
Sheff Utd 27.9
Watford 27.8

Youngest:

Arsenal 25.1
Wolves 25.2
Southampton 25.6
Chelsea 25.9
__________________
Also Michael Hughes a f*****g 87 year old journeyman showed Garcia, Pongolle, Potter, Kewell and Cisse how to play in a wide position, he took the p**s out of us tonight. (LFC fansite)

Comment is free, but facts are sacred. (C.P. Scott)
  #106  
Old 21-01-2020, 12:49 PM
adrenalin john's Avatar
adrenalin john adrenalin john is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: out between inns
Age: 54
Posts: 32,801
Rep Power: 21474853
adrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is hereadrenalin john Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by CP-RJW View Post
I think you’re overstating those peaks a bit. Sure plenty of centre backs and defensive midfielders stay very good into their 30s, but I think the vast majority are at their peak before then.

I think it’s a matter of declining more slowly rather than peaking later, thanks to less reliance on pace in their positions.
No experience and reading the game is key for those positions. I would suggest Tomkins for example is having his finest season in football.

Virgil Van Dijk is now just coming into his peak

Bolasie however peaked at 27....
__________________
please see above
  #107  
Old 21-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Eddie McGoldrick's tash's Avatar
Eddie McGoldrick's tash Eddie McGoldrick's tash is offline
I'm thinking about it
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Nottingham
Age: 40
Posts: 24,800
Rep Power: 21474856
Eddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is hereEddie McGoldrick's tash Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave_who_ru View Post
Based on the named squads in September the oldest are:

Burnley 28.8
Palace 28.7
West Ham 28.4
Liverpool 27.9
Sheff Utd 27.9
Watford 27.8

Youngest:

Arsenal 25.1
Wolves 25.2
Southampton 25.6
Chelsea 25.9
Yeah, so our average age isn't really that much above a lot of other teams.
It's something we do need to balance a bit more but I don't think it is a disaster as long as we manage it.
  #108  
Old 21-01-2020, 03:16 PM
CP-RJW's Avatar
CP-RJW CP-RJW is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Sheffield
Age: 19
Posts: 13,722
Rep Power: 21474842
CP-RJW Sam the man is hereCP-RJW Sam the man is hereCP-RJW Sam the man is hereCP-RJW Sam the man is hereCP-RJW Sam the man is hereCP-RJW Sam the man is hereCP-RJW Sam the man is hereCP-RJW Sam the man is hereCP-RJW Sam the man is hereCP-RJW Sam the man is hereCP-RJW Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by adrenalin john View Post
No experience and reading the game is key for those positions. I would suggest Tomkins for example is having his finest season in football.

Virgil Van Dijk is now just coming into his peak

Bolasie however peaked at 27....
Van Dijk isn’t playing as well as he was last season, but even now he’s only 28. Ramos, Godín, Pique, Ferdinand, Vidic, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Hummels, Boateng, Thiago Silva, Kompany, Koscielny, I look through the best centre backs of the 2010s and all of them peaked before 30. The exceptions are rarer, Chiellini and Barzagli come to mind.

I’d suggest Tomkins is playing the best football of his career because he’s playing under the best manager of his career, and in Roy’s system especially where our players sit back so much, pace isn’t the most important factor for centre backs. It’s why Gary Cahill is better now that he was in his last couple of years at Chelsea, where defenders need to be a bit more agile. So like I argued initially, less a case of peaking later, more of declining much more slowly.

That’s harsh on Bolasie too, he declined sooner than he should’ve due to injury.

Last edited by CP-RJW; 21-01-2020 at 04:42 PM.
  #109  
Old 21-01-2020, 03:44 PM
NickinOx NickinOx is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Rhode Island
Age: 53
Posts: 1,441
Rep Power: 12432832
NickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietNickinOx came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie McGoldrick's tash View Post
Yeah, so our average age isn't really that much above a lot of other teams.
It's something we do need to balance a bit more but I don't think it is a disaster as long as we manage it.
Main starters this season:
Ayew: 28
Benteke: 29
Zaha: 27
Townsend: 28
Luka: 28
Kouyate: 30
McArthur: 32
McCarthy: 29
Cahill: 34
Guaita: 33
Kelly: 29
Ward: 30
Tomkins: 30
PVA: 29
Riedewald: 23
Meyer: 24.

Our typical starting line up prior to Riedewald's and Meyer's inclusion was almost 30 years old. They have been excellent, but that is clearly not sustainable especially as few of the younger players have featured.
  #110  
Old 21-01-2020, 04:27 PM
AJ's Avatar
AJ AJ is offline
Oh No!
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: NC, USA
Posts: 30,213
Rep Power: 21474858
AJ Sam the man is hereAJ Sam the man is hereAJ Sam the man is hereAJ Sam the man is hereAJ Sam the man is hereAJ Sam the man is hereAJ Sam the man is hereAJ Sam the man is hereAJ Sam the man is hereAJ Sam the man is hereAJ Sam the man is here
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave_who_ru View Post
Based on the named squads in September the oldest are:

Burnley 28.8
Palace 28.7
West Ham 28.4
Liverpool 27.9
Sheff Utd 27.9
Watford 27.8

Youngest:

Arsenal 25.1
Wolves 25.2
Southampton 25.6
Chelsea 25.9
So our squad is only 8 months older on average than the run away leaders.
  #111  
Old 21-01-2020, 05:43 PM
Eagle's Nest Eagle's Nest is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,733
Rep Power: 21474844
Eagle's Nest Sam the man is hereEagle's Nest Sam the man is hereEagle's Nest Sam the man is hereEagle's Nest Sam the man is hereEagle's Nest Sam the man is hereEagle's Nest Sam the man is hereEagle's Nest Sam the man is hereEagle's Nest Sam the man is hereEagle's Nest Sam the man is hereEagle's Nest Sam the man is hereEagle's Nest Sam the man is here
You could argue Guiata, Tomkins and Cahill have been our best players this season. Perhaps with the exception of Ayew.
  #112  
Old 21-01-2020, 07:04 PM
bourne man's Avatar
bourne man bourne man is offline
analyse this
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Sleepy Hollow
Posts: 1,842
Rep Power: 17393899
bourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietbourne man came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Players play on much longer now, there was a time not so long ago when a player was finished in his early thirties not anymore clubs are now quite happy to give players contracts of two or three year in their mid thirties
__________________
"Build it and they will come" www.palacecomrades.com
  #113  
Old 22-01-2020, 11:33 AM
keithywonder's Avatar
keithywonder keithywonder is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Stafford (ex SE25)
Age: 64
Posts: 609
Rep Power: 19504
keithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawnkeithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawnkeithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawnkeithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawnkeithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawnkeithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawnkeithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawnkeithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawnkeithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawnkeithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawnkeithywonder lets the band keep playing on and on and on, til the break of dawn
Well he’s signed.
  #114  
Old 22-01-2020, 11:33 AM
RisZero's Avatar
RisZero RisZero is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,326
Rep Power: 21474843
RisZero Sam the man is hereRisZero Sam the man is hereRisZero Sam the man is hereRisZero Sam the man is hereRisZero Sam the man is hereRisZero Sam the man is hereRisZero Sam the man is hereRisZero Sam the man is hereRisZero Sam the man is hereRisZero Sam the man is hereRisZero Sam the man is here
Official
__________________
I dont want your religion old woman. I want Harry Monk back
  #115  
Old 22-01-2020, 11:34 AM
DaveP DaveP is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,654
Rep Power: 6716267
DaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietDaveP came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Signed To view the link you have to Register or Login
  #116  
Old 22-01-2020, 11:37 AM
Soarin' Eagles's Avatar
Soarin' Eagles Soarin' Eagles is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: The 'sunshine' coast of Eastbourne!
Age: 23
Posts: 3,817
Rep Power: 9832247
Soarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSoarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSoarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSoarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSoarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSoarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSoarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSoarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSoarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSoarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy dietSoarin' Eagles came here looking for the peace and quiet; the healthy air and the healthy diet
Now get a ******* right back
__________________
  #117  
Old 22-01-2020, 11:37 AM
Galo's Avatar
Galo Galo is offline
This
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: St Albans
Posts: 457
Rep Power: 2058503
Galo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineGalo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineGalo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineGalo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineGalo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineGalo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineGalo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineGalo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineGalo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineGalo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineGalo : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Poor kid had to watch that dross last night, instant regret.
__________________
this
  #118  
Old 22-01-2020, 11:37 AM
MAW MAW is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: London
Posts: 509
Rep Power: 1922696
MAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineMAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineMAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineMAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineMAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineMAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineMAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineMAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineMAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineMAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineMAW : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Let's hope he's the new Wayne Rooney.
  #119  
Old 22-01-2020, 11:39 AM
Maidstoned Eagle's Avatar
Maidstoned Eagle Maidstoned Eagle is online now
SC's wet dream
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Hiding behind Biggus.
Age: 54
Posts: 108,578
Rep Power: 21474858
Maidstoned Eagle Sam the man is hereMaidstoned Eagle Sam the man is hereMaidstoned Eagle Sam the man is hereMaidstoned Eagle Sam the man is hereMaidstoned Eagle Sam the man is hereMaidstoned Eagle Sam the man is hereMaidstoned Eagle Sam the man is hereMaidstoned Eagle Sam the man is hereMaidstoned Eagle Sam the man is hereMaidstoned Eagle Sam the man is hereMaidstoned Eagle Sam the man is here
Signing for the future....not the present.
__________________
If you don't like the BBS moderators policy on racist and bigoted posters, please remember that other sites are available.

The BBS - Where Brighton Neggers have imaginary lawyers.
  #120  
Old 22-01-2020, 11:41 AM
Scoot's Avatar
Scoot Scoot is offline
The Seventh Son
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: North Hampshire
Posts: 4,699
Rep Power: 1087949
Scoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineScoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineScoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineScoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineScoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineScoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineScoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineScoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineScoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineScoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mineScoot : if all you've got to do today is find peace of mind, come round, you can take a piece of mine
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle View Post
Signing for the future....not the present.
Hope so, Scottish championship is about the level of Bromley
__________________
Modernism - it is a way of life not just a fashion.
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.