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Old 12-08-2019, 07:13 PM
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will McCarthy get a game?
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:24 PM
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it's an away game, so i guess we'll just sit back and hope that wilf does something magical
Did you see many away games last season? Or the one before that? Of course Wilf is a big part of it - why wouldn't he be? But we hardly just turned up and hoped for the best. And certainly didn't just sit back. There was a well drilled and very comprehensive set of tactics and plays. That was successful on a fair few occasions.
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:31 PM
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I'm very confident about this game,newly promoted team against the brilliant counter attacking Palace.

I can see Sheff utd getting a bloody nose with us getting a thumping win.
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:36 PM
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Overlapping centre back gave a word. This lot will get murdered in the league. Our counter attack style should destroy them also. 8-2 Zaha hatrick
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If he does well, it won’t be Palace he moves to. They are a bigger club than us.
They aren’t. History means nothing. Money and prem status everything.
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Old 12-08-2019, 07:46 PM
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Wtaf are “overlapping centre backs” when they’re at home?
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Wtaf are “overlapping centre backs” when they’re at home?
Their full backs and centre backs are encouraged to go forward with the ball.
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Gosh, when did it all get so complicated? On me ‘ed, Son.
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Wtaf are “overlapping centre backs” when they’re at home?
Watching from behind the goal at Palace, either Fat Sam or Pulls effectively did the same thing, albeit without the pace that Wilder's team possesses. I distinctly remember watching the CBs go wide when the keeper was in possession on a number of occasions. Anyone else recall that?
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Wtaf are “overlapping centre backs” when they’re at home?
The centre backs overlaps the fullback down the wing to whip crosses in
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Watching from behind the goal at Palace, either Fat Sam or Pulls effectively did the same thing, albeit without the pace that Wilder's team possesses. I distinctly remember watching the CBs go wide when the keeper was in possession on a number of occasions. Anyone else recall that?
Yeah but this is something a bit different. It sometimes turns into a proper overload with the centre backs close to the byline and the wing backs inside the penalty area in goalscoring positions. And it's not just gung-ho, there's a whole system that works around it where the central midfielders cover to stop breaks etc. Sheffield United conceded the joint fewest goals in the Championship last year, so it's not like they're leaving themselves completely open.
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Their full backs and centre backs are encouraged to go forward with the ball.
Do the CMs drop into CB or is it gung ho?
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Yeah but this is something a bit different. It sometimes turns into a proper overload with the centre backs close to the byline and the wing backs inside the penalty area in goalscoring positions. And it's not just gung-ho, there's a whole system that works around it where the central midfielders cover to stop breaks etc. Sheffield United conceded the joint fewest goals in the Championship last year, so it's not like they're leaving themselves completely open.
Weird. But surely if there’s “overload” then they will be taking risks and there will be space to exploit? Zaha Townsend, Schlupp and PVA will be contemplating this furiously.
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Overlapping centre backs? I should imagine Wilf, Andros and Max will like that.
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Weird. But surely if there’s “overload” then they will be taking risks and there will be space to exploit? Zaha Townsend, Schlupp and PVA will be contemplating this furiously.
Isn't Jeff injured? A shame if he is, because it's possibly a match that would suit him.
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If you scroll down near the bottom of this page and click on 'player positions' you'll see the kind of positions SU took up against Bournemouth in blue.

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The worring thing for us is the way they doubled (actually tripled) up on that right flank. Van Aanholt will have to either be on top form or get a lot of support from Meyer, Luka et al to deal with that next Sunday.
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Weird. But surely if there’s “overload” then they will be taking risks and there will be space to exploit? Zaha Townsend, Schlupp and PVA will be contemplating this furiously.
Yeah you'd think, but they seem to have found a way, so far, of not getting caught out. Apparently after Leeds played them Bielsa said it was something he'd always wanted to do but never been able to pull off.
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Just read this on a Blades Forum:

“They'll be shitting it on how to cope with us.“

And a lot of talk about Zaha.......bless
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Isn't Jeff injured? A shame if he is, because it's possibly a match that would suit him.
Yeah I was thinking the same. Still injured I think, but he featured in the set of photos before Everton so hopefully not far away.
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